Motivation clinic!

theresaloo

hi, im just wondering has anyone done the motivation clinic diet? i did put up a post on this but i may have put it in the wrong place as i am new on this! Any advice would be great thanks a mill!!

EileenG

It's pretty expensive, and they are inclined to push their own supplements and bars etc, but if you have a lot of weight to lose, and think you'd do well with a one-to-one approach, then it might work for you.

theresaloo

Yeah i heard that, but if it works i dont mind, need to loose 3-4 stone and tried nearly everything else! Do you know anyone who has done it and has done well? I've heard good and bad things, but im hoping its good especially for the price! thanks for replying!

arandale

teresa, keep well away from motivation, unless you are losing all the time they lose interest in you. Its also very expensive, its drinks and bars as well and i'm sure you're smart enough to realise how that kind of dieting ends up. FAILURE.

Vintagechic

Have known four people who have done this. All lost a lot of weight but in the long term they have all put it back on again. Its just too difficult and expensive to maintain long term:rolleyes:

theresaloo

Dame it was hopin for good feed back lol!! I heard there is two types shakes and bars and then normal food and bars! Wanted to do the food and bars as i have 3-4 stone to loose wouldnt be able to do the shakes i'd break that the first day i'd say!! I know one girl who has lost 15lbs in four weeks! Im hoping its not too good to be true! I know its expenisive €600 and something for it but if it works it would be money well spent in my eyes!! I defo wouldnt let myself put back on the weight i lost i wouldnt let myself after all the hard work! Thanks for the feed back guys! Anymore is gladly appreciated!! Thanks!!

EileenG

To be honest, on a good low carb diet, you should lose 15lb in four weeks, and that's without spending a fortune or eating funny foods.

There is a lot of support here for a well constructed low carb diet, based on fresh whole foods, no processed crap or fake food.

theresaloo

That is true eileen, but i think this is proper food plus protein bars, i suppose at the end of the day we all know how to loose weight eat less move more and all that, but i have been doin weight watchers for years and yes it works but very slow, i need to restrict my self as i find ww too temptin, basicly i need a good kick up the arse and i think their one on one approach may do it as i would be mortified to have to justify to someone why i put on a pound or two where as in ww u can kinda get away with it as they are so busy and just interested in getting rid of the que!! If i added up all the money i have spend doing ww i would prob have paid more than €600 at this stage! Just need a change and was hoping this was it not so sure now though!!

Vintagechic

It is proper food plus the bars but I think you would have to eat these bars for the rest of your life to maintain the weight loss. All of the people I know tried their best to keep the weight off but it just seems to creep back up when you stop the bars:( I know one person in particular is on another diet now to lose weight re-gained.

I know its a cliche but eat less move more is probably the best way to go. Maybe if you knew someone else who wanted to lose weight ye could do it together and motivate each other:)

Hope this helps:)

theresaloo

It is the best way to eat less move more but not as easy as it sounds sometimes!! I dont actually eat a lot but just prob the wrong foods i just have to look at carbs and put on a pound lol! Thats why i think it would work for me because of the low carbs!! I heard the bars are about €30 a week that is madness but seen on another site that you can buy them on the net for half that so that would save a bit!! Wish i was just born skinny

Vintagechic

Don't we all:D I have no doubt that you can lose weight on the motivation diet its just it is short lived which is a pity and dissapointing after spending all that money:rolleyes:

I think those bars are mostly protein based not too sure tho so maybe more protein and less carbs could be the way to go!Look into it:)

Whatever you choose to do hope it works and best of luck with it:D:D

EileenG

To be honest, their bars are pretty crap. They have about 15g of protein per bar, and almost the same amount of sugar. If you must eat bars instead of meals, there are better, and cheaper, ones out there.

anewme

Hi,

I would say don't do it. I did it a couple of years ago after seeing my boss drop almost a stone in just over a week! However, he put it all back and more.

I did it and it cost me 620, I think at the time. I went for 5 or 6 weeks and that was it. I found the protein bars disgustingly sweet and the menu way too restrictive. I lost almost a stone too (in about 8 weeks) but could not keep it off. I am a person with fantastic willpower when I get going and even I could not stick to it.

They also gave you CD's to listen to in the car, which were a complete load of claptrap. They started off examining all the psychological reasons why I ate too much and I know some people have these, but I can say now to myself, the reason I ate too much is that I LOVE FOOD - it is nothing more sinister than that!

Fast forward to 2 years later, have decided now is time to do something about it. I lost about a half stone between Christmas and mid jan and then joined slimming world where I am down an additional 1 stone 3 lbs in 2 months. So now down 1stone 10lbs. I now have 6 lbs to go to goal (just under 10 stone) I also go to the gym 4 times a week (mostly spinning classes) and it has changed my shape, particularly of my legs and backside. My friend joined the spin and hates it,so cant go, where I love it and once you find something you love, it makes all the difference.

Another friend did motivation too late last year (despite me telling her not to) and had the same experience as me. Started well enough, but diet just too restrictive to keep to.

If you want to cut the carbs, read the Patrick Holford books, actually I find Slimming World and the new pro points in WW are a kind of similar diet.

My advice is no, you will lose a lot of lbs (money) but not much else long term.

There is no magic fix to losing weight, to be honest, if you are not in the zone personally, NOTHING will motivate you. You will also be cheesed off with 600 lost on rubblish.

I had to bring back a size 12 trousers yesterday for a size 10 (in Warehouse). That is going to keep me motivated!

arandale

Teresa, Eileen is right, go for a low carb with lots of fresh food, no tins if you can, look at whats in them, make your own soup and i find if i whizz in a bit of protein, say turkey of the bone, it really helps with the hunger, the study had been done, instead of eating protein with your soup whizz it in.

If you have e600, hire a personal trainer. I know if i could, i would. Sorry for been so longwinded. Good Luck and keep us posted.

arandale

Anewme, forgot to say well done. Maybe you could stay on tread and be an inspiration to Teresa. Good luck with the last 6.

xgtdec

A hell of a lot of negatives here about motivation so ill redress the balance although im nearly sure ive posted on this before!

I did motivation for 2 terms of 20 weeks, i paid my money and i made my choice, i went in at just over 21 stone.

Motivation was one of the best choices i ever made, i dont go any more but i have retained the lessons learned during my time there, its not just about restrictive diets etc, its about teaching and educating yourself and if you do it right you realise that after a time..(40weeks for me) you dont need them anymore, i replaced motivation with running in the gym....i replace that with spinning...i replaced that with machine weights..and that with free weights..and now im always trying to break my PB's at that, so i went from 21st and no exercise to squatting 170Kg......ive done nothing but put myself in better shape than motivation will ever get you in by learning from them and then taking it further. If you have the money and the will...then go do it but remember that they are a business and they are there to make money with their products, i didnt care, i wanted to lose weight so bad i just did it.......its what you make of it and it could be the start to an amazing you just like it was my kickstart to where i am at today.....;)and no i dont work for them

I have no problems showing you my diaries from my time there or the liturature i still have, equally ive no issues showing you before and after pictures....ill even meet ya if ya like!!!!

Some of the info below.....well i have to say its pure bull****.....ive been there, ive done it..and 4 years later im in the best shape of my life...all starting with motivation.....

theresaloo

Thanks a mill for all your replys, i know you are all right in what you are saying, i know as everyone else does how to loose weight and have done so on my own before but have come to the stage where i am sick of it and losing motivation, are any of you on diets? if so which one? how are you getting on? I love hearing other peoples stories and their motivation makes you feel like your not in it alone!!

theresaloo

Thanks xgtdec for your reply! you have given me hope lol!! I dont have time now to reply properly but i will later thanks again!!:D

theresaloo

xgtdec you must be very proud of yourself and got fit too! i really want to try this as i think the one on one approach will help me not to give up also the money factor, i dont have €600 to throw away but willing to pay it if i could loose the 3-4 stone, do you mind me asking what you weigh now from 21st? your an inspiration to me, i know loosing weight isnt the be all and end all, but it sure can make you happy when you feel confident enough in your own skin, it can hold you back from doing things you want to do, i dont want to be like that anymore!! I want to be slim and happy and hell yeah im going to be lol!! Im sure it will be hard but it will defo be worth it!!

anewme

xgtdec, there is no way on earth you cannot say The Motivation Weight loss clinic diet is not a very restrictive.

I think I was put on 1200 calories per day, female 12 stone. I was very very hungry. I still have my pack somewhere, so will try to dig it out and see what I ate.

I also feel that when you are on a diet, you need to be able to live, ie family meals out, drinks, so that you are not just living to diet. With motivation, I found it very hard to stick to it, so you are more likely to go "sod this" and reach for a greasy kebab, or whatever your downfall is.

It is great that you lost the weight and kept it off though, so it shows different strokes for different folks.

Theresaloo, I would echo what Arandale said, if you have 600 to spend on this, hire a personal trainer! I should have done that with my 600, but I wanted to take the easy way out, not ready to exercise properly and looking for a magic fix that does not exist.

However, I will say from your posts, it is like you have already decided to do Weight Motivation and if you do - good luck with it.

xgtdec

theresaloo wrote: »

xgtdec you must be very proud of yourself and got fit too! i really want to try this as i think the one on one approach will help me not to give up also the money factor, i dont have €600 to throw away but willing to pay it if i could loose the 3-4 stone, do you mind me asking what you weigh now from 21st? your an inspiration to me, i know loosing weight isnt the be all and end all, but it sure can make you happy when you feel confident enough in your own skin, it can hold you back from doing things you want to do, i dont want to be like that anymore!! I want to be slim and happy and hell yeah im going to be lol!! Im sure it will be hard but it will defo be worth it!!

This could take a while:p

When i started Motivation i had no muscle to speak of, i was just..well....fat..for want of a better word, i recall being 21st and 4 lbs and the girl putting the tape around my waist which was i think....46inches, my fat percentage was 34% making me horribly obese, 4 years later and as of today i am, 14St 4Lbs, with a 32inch waist and a body fat percentage of 12.7% by my last calipers assessment, my goal weight was 13 stone at 5,9 but when i started putting on muscle it was an unrealistic target so at the moment im still building muscle, when i go to fat burn again ill be looking to trim 4-6 lbs. I can dig ya out some pics if ya like

theresaloo wrote: »

your an inspiration to me

Now im just embarrassed

theresaloo wrote: »

Im sure it will be hard but it will defo be worth it

And this at the end of the day is the most true thing ive found in my weight loss and fitness journey, it is one of the hardest things you can try and 99 people out of 100 try it and fail because its so damn hard...but the thing to do is go at it with the mindset...im going to be that 1 person who makes it...i dont give a f**k what people say, do or think, im going to do it...wake every morning with that in your mind and ive no doubt your going to PM me in a year telling me all about your achievements;)

xgtdec

anewme wrote: »

xgtdec, there is no way on earth you cannot say The Motivation Weight loss clinic diet is not a very restrictive.

It is semi restrictive and it needs to be, the reason people go to motivation is because they are overweight, their diet has no restriction..hence being overweight, for the beginner steps in fat loss restriction is a must!!

anewme wrote: »

With motivation, I found it very hard to stick to it, so you are more likely to go "sod this" and reach for a greasy kebab, or whatever your downfall is.

So you found it hard and went "sod this"...you didn't have to say sod this..you could stick it out....but its hard...fat loss is damn tough and its easier to quit, one of the main teachings of motivation from memory was to teach the ability to get back on track...to not let a bad meal turn into a bad day and into a bad week and before you know it back to square one.....If you want it enough you WILL do it!!!!!

anewme wrote: »

if you have 600 to spend on this, hire a personal trainer!

I personally think a personal trainer would be useless if the OP's food habits remained the same, you know the "out train a bad diet" saying exists for a reason!! Motivation is not for everyone i will agree, but if you educate yourself on the way you can find its one the best springboards available to be the person you want to be....at this point i have to stress:D i do not work there!!!!

anewme

xgtdec wrote: »

It is semi restrictive and it needs to be, the reason people go to motivation is because they are overweight, their diet has no restriction..hence being overweight, for the beginner steps in fat loss restriction is a must!!

I actually think it is a lot more than "semi restrictive" to be fair.

I have dug out my pack they gave me when I joined.

The options and choice of diets were as follows for a female 5ft 6 weighing in at 11 stone 12lbs:
1,500 cal per day without protein supplement would give you 3.5lbs loss in a month
1,200 cal per day with 1 protein supplement would give you 4.5lbs loss per month
1,000 cal per day with 2 protein supplements would give you 5.5lbs loss per month
800 cal per day with 3 protein supplements would give you 6 lbs loss per month

There was also a protein medical diet listed on the page consisting of 6 protein supplements per day and nothing else which would give you 12.5 lb per month. I think though you had to have a doctors certification before undertaking this one.

That is crazy!


[/QUOTE]So you found it hard and went "sod this"...you didn't have to say sod this..you could stick it out....but its hard...fat loss is damn tough and its easier to quit, one of the main teachings of motivation from memory was to teach the ability to get back on track...to not let a bad meal turn into a bad day and into a bad week and before you know it back to square one.....If you want it enough you WILL do it!!!!![/QUOTE]

I went sod this because I want to have a life as well as lose weight, not because I have no determination or will power. I have lost weight through a healthy but realistic and sustainable eating plan plus lots and lots of exercise.


[/QUOTE]I personally think a personal trainer would be useless if the OP's food habits remained the same, you know the "out train a bad diet" saying exists for a reason!! Motivation is not for everyone i will agree, but if you educate yourself on the way you can find its one the best springboards available to be the person you want to be....at this point i have to stress i do not work there!!!![/QUOTE]

Fully agree with you re exercise no good without food habits not changing, however something less expensive and equally motivating eg, Weight Watchers or Slimming World will also work in conjunction with exercise.

Look at these costs
When you sign up your contract YOU AGREE TO PAY :
75 registration fee
540 for a 20 week program
You also agree to purchase 2 boxes per week for women and 3 for men of protein supplements @ 15 per box and 1 bottle of kcal (dont know what that is or how much it is) every 3 months
In addition, you agree to purchase motivation tools such as CD's/cassettes @ 35 each and books 25 each (one of these every 4 weeks)

In defense of Motivation Clinic, I found my "Consultant" a lovely woman and genuine in wanting the program to work for me. I also found the Clinic itself very professional (but at those type of fees it should be)

Am just reading through the weekly handouts and some of them are priceless.

rememberthis

I tried Motivation a few years back, and it was the worst money I've ever spent. Instead of feeling motivated, I left every meeting feeling upset I was the weight I was. The woman I had seemed to have a way of belittling me without me knowing. I had those bars pushed on me, once I left without them, and the receptionist actually ran after me and told me that I had to buy them. My partner and I both joined weight watchers after I left motivation, he is my support, and weight watchers have been far more supportive, and don't shove product in your face. In fact, it's a more realistic diet in the long run. Saying that, it still cost money, but not nearly as much as Motivation for a 20 week term.

My advice, eat plenty protein foods, some carbs to balance, and just exercise and you will be fine.

xgtdec

anewme wrote: »

That is crazy!

Its not crazy, its whats required of the program.....saying sod this and having a kebab...thats crazy!!!

anewme wrote: »

I have lost weight through a healthy but realistic and sustainable eating plan plus lots and lots of exercise.

And i suppose they sell these plans in tesco and dunnes....not everyone has the ability to subscribe to a "healthy but realistic and sustainable eating plan" and overweight people damn sure aint able for or inclined to do " lots and lots of exercise." Motivation is a system that allows overweight people make a start towards their goals....it introduces healthy eating and with their bars(not good ill admit) you have a treat to look forward to while getting your protein in.....i think i was spending 45 a week on the bars.....I used to drink 45 euro in a few hours.....for the purpose of the program those bars will keep you on track...And if your hungry..which you shouldnt be...you can have a bar rather than a kebab.

anewme wrote: »

weightwatchers or slimming world

I think these are really really good if you can get into a group mentality, the issue with some overweight people is that they often feel very excluded and are low on confidence....1-1 in motivation is often more benificial...jesus it really sounds like i work for them...im sorry:rolleyes:

I reached a stage in motivation where i started to reduce my own bars and then got to none.....they didnt like it but i knew i was outgrowing it and i was confident enough to say im not buying them....they didnt argue, on the negative side when i wanted to leave the were a little bit on the"if you leave now you might put it back on".....i knew i wouldnt, if they taught me anything its how to be in control of my eating...and as a result in control of my life....which is why i left them:D its a vicious circle......but in my case..a worthwhile one!!

Macha

Have to agree with anewme. Any diet that even considers 800 calories per day is nothing but a starvation diet. And regular food replacements with supplements is clearly a money making scheme.

Steer well clear of Motivation Clinic unless you enjoy throwing your money away.

xgtdec

Macha wrote: »

Steer well clear of Motivation Clinic unless you enjoy throwing your money away.

So you have been to motivation?

weeman2

I am currently working with motivation on my diet. I deleted my previous post as i have time this morning and wanted to point out a few things.

If you get a chance listen back to the Ray Darcy Show from last Wed on Today FM at 9:40am it will explain everything as it would take too long to do so.

Anyway to cut a long story short 10 weeks ago i was 41st 3lbs tday i am 36st and 1lb so i have lost 5 st + in 10 weeks.

My story is very different to most peoples and i am have been very fortunate in the help i am getting.

I personnaly find the people i am dealing with in motivation excellent, they are so helpfull and posative i like the programme too as it helps re educate me to the way i have been aproaching food. Im sure there are draw backs to this programme especially with the price but you just have to weight up is the price worth your life ???

Anyway as i say i find them good they are franchises and some people have had bad experiences i would suggest try a different clinic as unfortunatley you may just have gotten somebody who isnt that good i have been lucky as i am dealing with a great team here in Limerick.

For very heavy people i couldnt recommend them enough i tried everything in the past lipotrim, weight watchers ect. The biggest change in me to date is my outlook on the world and my feelings towards myself which have changed drasticly.

People are overlookinh one of motivations main points and that is too re educate a person and give them the ability to keep at it long term which i think is one of there best points. I do understand people feel you are stuck with them re there products but there bars ect are far cheaper than protein bars you would buy in the gym and the idea is to give you a hi protein snack im sure once you have lost your weight common sense should kick in they dont force you to be on there supplements forever.

I tried weight watchers and had a very negative experience they didnt even have a scales capable of weighting me and still took my money. I have to say i found weight watchers the worst ever for pushing there products. I also tried lipotrim and that is expensive too.

If you are familiar with my story you will know i was very hesitent in going to motivation and thus far i have found them excellent. I also should point out there scales weight you in weight, fat and water which on a week to week basis gives you a break down so you know where you are loosing the weight. One week i as down 3 lbs i was a bit pissed off but i then was shown i was down 6lbs of fat and up muscle which explained alot and kept me motivated.

These are all my opinions through my experiences you can pick apart all diets what didnt work for me will work for others but if you have alot of weight to loose or have tried other diets that havent worked this is definatley worth a shot.

There are a few comments picking motivation apart its easy to sit at home and do so if you have never suffered from excess weight its not as simple as just exercising for some people.

rememberthis

weeman2 wrote: »

If you get a chance listen back to the Ray Darcy Show from last Wed on Today FM at 9:40am it will explain everything as it would take too long to do so.

I tried weight watchers and had a very negative experience they didnt even have a scales capable of weighting me and still took my money. I have to say i found weight watchers the worst ever for pushing there products.

There are a few comments picking motivation apart its easy to sit at home and do so if you have never suffered from excess weight its not as simple as just exercising for some people.

Firstly anyway, I really respect your opinions. And I'm delighted to hear about your great weight loss. Well done.

On the point of being on Ray D'arcy, no wonder you are having a good experience with motivation... not like they want the world to know you are having bad experiences with them.. not good for publicity if you aren't getting any benefits from the program... so you might be a tad biased (perhaps).

With regards the Weight Watchers comment, I have to disagree (again just my opinion here). I joined them years back, and lost 4 stone in 6 months, I never once had a product pushed on me, I just went, got weighed, got some encouragement, and left! They have a fantastic approach to dieting, and it clearly worked, as I never felt hungry once. Now I am back to them again, and I have to say, I am having a similar experience, and I'm in a different part of the country too, so I'm delighted it's the same everywhere.

And your last point, I understand some people can't just lose weight at the drop of a hat. Again, I have been overweight, obese even, but I just ate right, exercised, and it worked. And I have been to Motivation and it really is a starvation diet. I'm not picking on your weight, but the first few months are really easy for overweight people to lose weight, as you shed excess water, and then it gets difficult. When I found it difficult, Motivation would criticise me and tell me I had been lying in my food diary, and I need to right everything down. I HAD BEEN! I felt under pressure from them.

And lastly, my best friend's sister left a job to go work for them a few years ago, because she really bought into the whole concept. She left them after a year, because she just couldn't go on deceiving people any longer.

xgtdec

rememberthis wrote: »

And I have been to Motivation and it really is a starvation diet.

Complete and utter bull, ive never heard such rubbish in all my life, the reason you think its starvation is that what you think your body needs to function and what your body ACTUALLY needs to function are very very different figures..please dont say "starvation diet" it could not be further from the truth and is very very misleading to people thinking of going to motivation

As for your best friends sister....did it take her a year to figure out she was "deceiving" people or did it take her a year to get bored?? 12 months is a long time not to notice your deceiving several clients a day every day of the week.....bad mouthing a previous employer...ive never heard of that before!

rememberthis

xgtdec wrote: »

Complete and utter bull, ive never heard such rubbish in all my life, the reason you think its starvation is that what you think your body needs to function and what your body ACTUALLY needs to function are very very different figures..please dont say "starvation diet" it could not be further from the truth and is very very misleading to people thinking of going to motivation

As for your best friends sister....did it take her a year to figure out she was "deceiving" people or did it take her a year to get bored?? 12 months is a long time not to notice your deceiving several clients a day every day of the week.....bad mouthing a previous employer...ive never heard of that before!

Seriously starting to think you work for Motivation now! Look, I'm just giving my opinion, and considering I went to Motivation, and spent the money at Motivation, I am entitled to my few words, would be different if I hadn't experienced it.
Depending on the type of diet plan you take, then it can be a "starvation" diet. Don't like using that word anymore... But a 800 calorie diet isn't good if you do opt for that, as you are twice as likely to gain the weight again very quickly. I'm not trying to discourage anyone, but I just want readers here to acknowledge there are other ways of losing the weight.

As for my friend's sister. You really haven't heard of anyone bad mouthing previous employers before? You must live in a lovely world of fairies and daffodils. She didn't have much of a choice to stay there... she'd bought a new house, and it's not like there were many other job options out there for her... but it killed her everyday. Hence why she decided it was better to be broke than to become broken herself.

weeman2

rememberthis wrote: »

Firstly anyway, I really respect your opinions. And I'm delighted to hear about your great weight loss. Well done.

On the point of being on Ray D'arcy, no wonder you are having a good experience with motivation... not like they want the world to know you are having bad experiences with them.. not good for publicity if you aren't getting any benefits from the program... so you might be a tad biased (perhaps).

Take the time to listen back i wad huge reservations about motivation, i have found them excellent so far but i have said to them there are a few things they should change which would help there image especially there lack of info re cost when people make enquiries about tham. Fair enough i do realise they are prob rolling out the red carpet for me but it either works or it doesnt and no amount of royal treatment will loose weight so obviously they are doing something right. Im down very little water so far as there scales measures this.

With regards the Weight Watchers comment, I have to disagree (again just my opinion here). I joined them years back, and lost 4 stone in 6 months, I never once had a product pushed on me, I just went, got weighed, got some encouragement, and left! They have a fantastic approach to dieting, and it clearly worked, as I never felt hungry once. Now I am back to them again, and I have to say, I am having a similar experience, and I'm in a different part of the country too, so I'm delighted it's the same everywhere.

Look if weight watchers works for you fair play but its a flaud system ie diet coke is free ??? no it will still give you diabeties but they dont tell you that. Weight watchers have the biggest amount of products on the market too that is a fact and if it worked why are you back with them ?

And your last point, I understand some people can't just lose weight at the drop of a hat. Again, I have been overweight, obese even, but I just ate right, exercised, and it worked. And I have been to Motivation and it really is a starvation diet. I'm not picking on your weight, but the first few months are really easy for overweight people to lose weight, as you shed excess water, and then it gets difficult. When I found it difficult, Motivation would criticise me and tell me I had been lying in my food diary, and I need to right everything down. I HAD BEEN! I felt under pressure from them.

Thanks for the insult but like i say i havent lost 5 st of water, the programme im on is designed for very very heavy people i cant comment on other programmes as i dont know anything about them. Its far from a starvation diet also.

And lastly, my best friend's sister left a job to go work for them a few years ago, because she really bought into the whole concept. She left them after a year, because she just couldn't go on deceiving people any longer.

[/QUOTE]
I cant comment on that to be fair


As one previous person said they stopped taking the supplements towards the end at some stage common sense needs to privail in any programme. Wether its motivation or weight watchers if it works for you thats all that matters and while some people think certain posts are from people who work for motivation i wouldnt discount the possability of people posting in this who work for other companies.

rememberthis

i have said to them there are a few things they should change which would help there image especially there lack of info re cost when people make enquiries about tham.

It's great you did this. It will really help them as a company going forward.

Look if weight watchers works for you fair play but its a flaud system ie diet coke is free ??? no it will still give you diabeties but they dont tell you that. Weight watchers have the biggest amount of products on the market too that is a fact and if it worked why are you back with them ?

I don't exactly go off drinking loads of diet drinks because suddenly Weight Watcher's tells me they are free! I'm not a fizzy drinks type of person anyway. Stick to the old water and cordial!
And in relation to the going back to Weight Watchers. Well, I fell off the band wagon in the first place because my dad died from cancer, and my world fell apart. That is all I will say. I am putting myself back together gradually starting with the weight.

Thanks for the insult but like i say i havent lost 5 st of water, the programme im on is designed for very very heavy people i cant comment on other programmes as i dont know anything about them. Its far from a starvation diet also.

Again, as I previously said, well done on the weight loss, and I wasn't trying to offend.

while some people think certain posts are from people who work for motivation i wouldnt discount the possability of people posting in this who work for other companies.

I have no doubt this is the case. I don't work for any of them for the record!

anewme

I have no connection either to Weight Motivation Clinic other than not to want someone else to lose 600 Euro like I did for nothing.

I agree with remember me here. The diet is basically starvation - I was hungry permanently and actully dizzy at point.

I read the manual last night again after this thread - what pure codswallop!

Can also say that I had a similar experience to one other poster in that I scarpered off with no protein bars and they chased out after me to make sure I got them.

It is a business, like weightwatchers, slimming world et al, and like all businesses it is there to make money but it is one business that should really reprice its product.

I went about 5 or 6 times and paid 600 - poor value in my opinion. to be fair, they did send a couple of reminders in the post but by that stage I knew I did not want to be starving and totally miserable.

800 cals per day - no way!

weeman2

I really believe that if you suffer from your weight you will always have problems and wether your with motivation, weight watchers or whoever you will most likely go in and out to them over the years to keep your weight under control.

Anayway i said my peace on this so i hope it helps. It doesnt matter which one you use as long as it works for you. Its hard but a big thing i have found is that being open about it helps obviously at my weight i have alot more probs than say someone with 2-3 st to loose so its all relative i just feel motivation are way better equipmed for people like me where as weight watchers seem to target people with a few stone to loose.

arandale

Go for it Weeman, and the best of luck.:)

Listening to Midwest Radio today they were discussing a diet where you gave a blood sample, i forget the name of it at the moment, then the results of the test tell you what foods are causing your weight problems.

Are any of you familar with. I hope i'll remember the name later on.

theresaloo

Hi guy, would like to say GO WEEMAN!!!! I dont think its fair to say that he is promoting motivation for them as he is on the radio, obviously they'll want weeman to do it to show that it works which is even more pressure on him, i think fair F*%K's to anyone who has the balls to go on the radio or telly and do this, i would not be able to, it took me ages to just join this to talk about it and it anonymous and i only have to lose 4st which he has done plus one more already!! (Im a bit jealous lol)

So after listening to all the positive and negitive stories and took into account what everyone said on this and the advice i got, curiosity got the better of me and i went to motivation!!

When i rang they said you have to get a consultation first then make an appointment to start which could be another week or so, so i chanced my arm and asked could i do it all in the one go as i wanted to start asap, and they said yes if thats what you want to do! So went in, filled out the forms ect, then met a really nice girl who went through everything with me, i know this is her job but she could not help me enough, she answered every question and gave me her own personal tips, she did not rush me out i was there for 2 full hours with her, she did not try sell me any books or c.d's, she explained what the protein bars do and why they are in the diet but yet still didnt tell me i HAD to buy them.

So i started today, and im not hungry and dont feel deprived, and very positive about this, i know everyone on their first day of a new diet is very positive but for the first time in my life i feel like im not doin it alone, even after years of goin to ww with many friends i always felt on my own.
So now i have paid the money theres no goin back, here's to been 4 stone lighter hopefully and if i fail everyone on this who told me not to go all have permission to say TOLD YOU SO!!
Thanks for all your help and advice!!

theresaloo

arandale wrote: »

Go for it Weeman, and the best of luck.:)

Listening to Midwest Radio today they were discussing a diet where you gave a blood sample, i forget the name of it at the moment, then the results of the test tell you what foods are causing your weight problems.

Are any of you familar with. I hope i'll remember the name later on.

Hi ya! I think its called the blood group diet, not 100% sure though!!

Blatter

Don't waste your money, you might lose weight on it but you'll put it back on again. That's for sure.

Research online(here and other sites, go back over old threads, ask questions etc.) and learn some basic building blocks about nutrition.

Once you do this, you'll never look back.

Try and do some exercise too, start walking regularly and build yourself up to running a couple of days a week.

Add in a some bodyweight training exercises (Press ups, squats, Ketlle Bells etc.) and you're laughing.

Good luck.

FGR

weeman2 wrote: »

I really believe that if you suffer from your weight you will always have problems and wether your with motivation, weight watchers or whoever you will most likely go in and out to them over the years to keep your weight under control.

Anayway i said my peace on this so i hope it helps. It doesnt matter which one you use as long as it works for you. Its hard but a big thing i have found is that being open about it helps obviously at my weight i have alot more probs than say someone with 2-3 st to loose so its all relative i just feel motivation are way better equipmed for people like me where as weight watchers seem to target people with a few stone to loose.

Maximum respect Weeman. I take it that was you on TV3 recently? Got to say you're setting an excellent precedent for everyone in this country and hopefully are the inspiration that will get people into healthy living..!

weeman2

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

Don't waste your money, you might lose weight on it but you'll put it back on again. That's for sure.

Research online(here and other sites, go back over old threads, ask questions etc.) and learn some basic building blocks about nutrition.

Once you do this, you'll never look back.

Try and do some exercise too, start walking regularly and build yourself up to running a couple of days a week.

Add in a some bodyweight training exercises (Press ups, squats, Ketlle Bells etc.) and you're laughing.

Good luck.

Some of this is such a cliche (spelling is wrong i know) I have trained nearley two hrs a day for the last god knows how many years i have competed in strongman and powerlifting at descent levels.

People assume its that easy it simply isnt.

To make a change wether its motivation, weight watchers whatever you need to look at yourself and figure out why you have gotten this way, how it happened and how you can change. OK its a little deep but thats what has to be done.

If you suffer with being overweight you prob have sore joints and running is not the answer i swim everyday.

I wonder are you a personal trainer as i doubt you are or ever have had a weight issue or you would know its not that simple for alot of people.

Thanks for the support they should set up a thread for people to share there posative stories and ban negative crap i heard of a guy in Dublin doing motivation at the moment who is down 23st and a guy in Waterford who is finished he lost 20st im sure there are a few good examples from other diets but that has to be insperational

Blatter

weeman2 wrote: »

Some of this is such a cliche (spelling is wrong i know) I have trained nearley two hrs a day for the last god knows how many years i have competed in strongman and powerlifting at descent levels.

People assume its that easy it simply isnt.

To make a change wether its motivation, weight watchers whatever you need to look at yourself and figure out why you have gotten this way, how it happened and how you can change. OK its a little deep but thats what has to be done.

If you suffer with being overweight you prob have sore joints and running is not the answer i swim everyday.

I wonder are you a personal trainer as i doubt you are or ever have had a weight issue or you would know its not that simple for alot of people.

Thanks for the support they should set up a thread for people to share there posative stories and ban negative crap i heard of a guy in Dublin doing motivation at the moment who is down 23st and a guy in Waterford who is finished he lost 20st im sure there are a few good examples from other diets but that has to be insperational

People become overweight because of their diet, diet and diet.
They need to change this, to lose weight. This is the reason and solution and it is that simple.

Now you may be delving deeper and asking why people are eating so shit in the first place, and need to sort personal problems out and what not. This may be true some of the time but you are underestimating the amount of people who are overweight due to a poor knowledge of nutrition and hence make poor eating choices.

For the record I'm not a PT but I have lost a few stone in the past and know what I'm talking about!

weeman2

If it was that easy why is it such a problem in society ?

fair play to you for doing it yourself but i just think that there is so much miss information, poor information and poor regulation in this country that if alot of people an i would include myself in this had better knowledge we would all be better off.

packaging in this country is a disgrace and designed to trick us, veg is way too expensive and for families crap food is cheaper.

I have held my hands up to my mistakes nobdy ever forced me and i take responsability for my actions but you make it sound so simplified.

Weight comes with alot of emotional baggage and i think your attitude should be used as a prevention as its is right but it doest go far enough to help people alredy over a few stone. I hope you understand what im trying to put across

Blatter

weeman2 wrote: »

If it was that easy why is it such a problem in society ?

fair play to you for doing it yourself but i just think that there is so much miss information, poor information and poor regulation in this country that if alot of people an i would include myself in this had better knowledge we would all be better off.

packaging in this country is a disgrace and designed to trick us, veg is way too expensive and for families crap food is cheaper.

I have held my hands up to my mistakes nobdy ever forced me and i take responsability for my actions but you make it sound so simplified.

Weight comes with alot of emotional baggage and i think your attitude should be used as a prevention as its is right but it doest go far enough to help people alredy over a few stone. I hope you understand what im trying to put across

I agree with what you're saying and have voiced an opinion here before about it. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70157697&postcount=27



But unfortunately, I don't see society changing for the better(diet wise) any time in the near future.

The soft drink, grain, fructose etc. corporations are far to big, far to rich and as long as they are funding research and having as big an influence as they do, things are not going to change anytime soon!

So unfortunately the onus is on the individual.

theresaloo

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

Don't waste your money, you might lose weight on it but you'll put it back on again. That's for sure.

Research online(here and other sites, go back over old threads, ask questions etc.) and learn some basic building blocks about nutrition.

Once you do this, you'll never look back.

Try and do some exercise too, start walking regularly and build yourself up to running a couple of days a week.

Add in a some bodyweight training exercises (Press ups, squats, Ketlle Bells etc.) and you're laughing.

Good luck.

Firstly i wouldnt let myself put the weight back on i know that for a fact as i have already lost nearly 3 stone and would not allow myself to put it back on! Second, "try do some excerise" no offence but we are not stupid i might have 4 stone to loose but i am fitter than you think and of course if we are trying to lose weight we excerise! I know you are trying to help but your basicly saying eat less move more we all know that but not always that simple!

Blatter

theresaloo wrote: »

Firstly i wouldnt let myself put the weight back on i know that for a fact as i have already lost nearly 3 stone and would not allow myself to put it back on!

No offence, but everyone says that and the reality is that 99% fail in the long run.

theresaloo wrote: »

Second, "try do some excerise" no offence but we are not stupid i might have 4 stone to loose but i am fitter than you think and of course if we are trying to lose weight we excerise! I know you are trying to help but your basicly saying eat less move more we all know that but not always that simple!

No, I'm not saying ''eat less move more''.

I said learn what foods are health, what foods are not healthy, learn about Calorie maintenance, learn the affects carbs, proteins, fats have on your body etc.

The more you know about nutrition, the more informed decisions you can make when buying/chosing food.

I clearly emphasised the diet as being most important.

I never said you don't do any exercise, I was suggesting that you don'y need to exercise as much as people think and that the diet is most important bu using the term ''some''.

Vintagechic

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

No offence, but everyone says that and the reality is that 99% fail in the long run.

I agree with Soccer4life. Any of the people who I know that have done the motivation diet also said they wouldnt put the weight back on and I hardly think that they "let themselves" put the weight back on after all that effort. Its just that this diet is just as bad as any other fad diet out there today.

I mean no offence by this to the OP but you came on here to ask people what they think of Motivation and when you get negative replies you dont want to hear it so my question is why ask at all ?:rolleyes:

weeman2

Not all feedback was bad on this thread and i had been pm ing theresaloo before i posted as i didnt want to get dragged into this.

And to say 99% of people will put it back on isnt accurate at all. You make it sound so simple and idealogical.

Alot of people have weight problems and always will thats just life and the reaasons vary i have no illusions that i will always have to battle with my weight.

People think there is a big shame in having to return to any diet at a future date well i say fair play to the person who recognises they are slipping and want to nip it in the bud before they are back to square one. Thats shows the person has learned and not that the diet is crap.

arandale

Teresa, i don't think anyone will be mean enough to say WE TOLD YOU SO. You asked for advice and it was your choice. Good Luck and keep us posted.

I remembered this morning the blood test is called Nutron. Does anyone know if its any good.

weeman2

I know two people who have ahd the nutron blood tests done but its wasnt for weight issues as both have no problem there.

Both had them done far alergies and i know for sure one worked very well im not too sure about the other person as i never thought to ask.

I hope this helps

Blatter

weeman2 wrote: »

Not all feedback was bad on this thread and i had been pm ing theresaloo before i posted as i didnt want to get dragged into this.

And to say 99% of people will put it back on isnt accurate at all. You make it sound so simple and idealogical.Alot of people have weight problems and always will thats just life and the reaasons vary i have no illusions that i will always have to battle with my
weight.

People think there is a big shame in having to return to any diet at a future date well i say fair play to the person who recognises they are slipping and want to nip it in the bud before they are back to square one. Thats shows the person has learned and not that the diet is crap.

I think you'll the figure is pretty accurate, fad diets fail virtually all of the time.

Controling your weight is fairly simple and idealogical, once you grasp the concept of good nutrition.

There are several people on this forum and the fitness one, who have lost alot of weight and kept it off for years.

They will all tell you the exact same thing as I've outlined in my previous posts.

I don't expect you to grasp this after reading my posts, as myself and others on this forum have argued several times with people attempting fad diets. It's like talking to a brick wall at times.