Moment of truth for leftists (except scumlord because he likes The Zohan)

The Israeli

by Assaf Wohl


Hello there, global leftist:
Almost every day, Israel's citizens are told of more displays of hostility by you against us. Often we are informed of various boycotts imposed on Israeli goods, the cancellation of cultural events in Israel, and even attempts to boycott Israeli academia.
This past week I watched Pink Floyd's Roger Waters urging a boycott on Israel. His arguments included an embarrassing combination of charges, including the finest lies taken from al-Jazeera's propaganda. The most prominent argument was Israel's portrayal as a racist "apartheid state" that sets up a wall separating Arabs and Jews.
Now, listen to what happened Saturday. One or more terrorists infiltrated the community of Itamar, which is located beyond the protective fence. They butchered five family members with knives, including an 11-year-old child, a four-year-old boy, and a three-months-old baby girl.
Gaza residents celebrated the massacre, so this is not a case of individual madness. These are the same Palestinians who celebrated the death of thousands at the Twin Towers. These are the same people who are standing at the squares of Tehran, Damascus, Beirut and even Istanbul, screaming "Death to Israel." As it turns out, "Israel" can also be a baby.
Let's put ideology aside for a moment and only talk numbers. Before the fence was built, premeditated acts of horror were perpetrated within Israel regularly. In 2002 alone, some 189 Israelis were massacred in 53 terror attacks. As the fence kept expanding, hostilities declined, until in 2009 they stood at zero. So these are the numbers.
My conclusions, which are only premised on the data presented above, are simple: With a fence in place, there are no massacres. Without a fence, hundreds of civilians are massacred. Hence, those interested in removing the fence support the slaughter of Israelis. So why do you, dear leftist, endorse massacres in practice?
Useful idiots

Ask yourself the following question: Why do you compare the premeditated slaughter of civilians to unintentional harm to civilians who serve as a human shield for rocket launchers and suicide bombers? There are two possible answers here.
The first answer, my leftist comrade, is that you're simply an idiot. Don't be insulted, my friend, you're not "just an idiot." You are an idiot of the type Lenin referred to as "useful idiot." What does that mean? You're simply being exploited.
You are being exploited by global Islam in a bid to eliminate a democratic state. After all, you would not be able to survive even five minutes in the alternative they prepare for you. If you want, you can look into the state of freedom of expression, prosecution of Christians, stoning of women and hanging of homosexuals in the Muslim world.
You likely believe that you are legitimately criticizing the State of Israel. Yet here you're lying to yourself a little. There is no state like Israel, surrounded by an ocean of billions of people calling for its extermination. Its neighbors, who realized they cannot defeat it on the battlefield, are simply exploiting you: They fire rockets at our kindergartens from the safety behind your back – yes, you, the one calling for boycotts and screaming "apartheid."
Anti-Semitism

The second and less flattering possibility is that you're not a "useful idiot," but rather, a mere anti-Semite. Is there another way for you to explain your obsession with Israel? Do you show the same determined disapproval towards China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela or North Korea?
The campaign against the Jewish state is disproportional in a way that cannot be explained away. I too admit that the Jews are an especially annoying people. Yet we do not tend to explode on buses as a form of revenge; not even in Germany. At most we'll argue with you until you die of boredom.

Perhaps you believe that you'd be able to clear you conscience of the persecution of Jews and the Holocaust if only you prove that we're worse than you. Perhaps the fact that the annoying Jews, according to the Bible at least, introduced to the world the morality which Islam and Christianity are premised on drives you nuts. Maybe you are interested in highlighting our injustices because someone branded us as the "Chosen People." One way or another, I have no intention to again march into the gas chambers because of a 3,000-year-old story.
By the way, guess what the next target for extermination is? You really don't know? Go ahead and look in the mirror. In Brussels, Paris, London and Malmo you shall soon be an extinct species fighting for its survival under Islamic laws. And while you're at it at the mirror, look at yourself and say the following: "Now, after I read this, I am no longer a useful idiot. Rather, I am an anti-Semite who is assisting the murder of Jews, in practice."
Does it seem exaggerated to you? Maybe so. But in the bottom line, as far as the outcome is concerned, this is precisely what you're doing.


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was originally posted on Ynet http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4041263,00.html

The Israeli

The Israeli wrote: »

The second and less flattering possibility is that you're not a "useful idiot," but rather, a mere anti-Semite.

I cannot rolleyes enough :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Yelling anti-semite and sticking fingers in ears when people disagree is getting absolutely ridiculous

AhSureTisGrand

Does this remind anyone else of the Unabomber manifesto?

AhSureTisGrand

The Israeli wrote: »

Do you show the same determined disapproval towards China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela or North Korea?

Yes?

Tahuti

Thread needs a poll.

Are you..

a) A Useful Idiot
b) An Anti-Semite.




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Cheap Thrills!

blabbidy blabbidy blabbidy blah

Boring.

karma_

Clucking bell, some of the most famous left-wingers have been Jews.

AhSureTisGrand

karma_ wrote: »

Clucking bell, some of the most famous left-wingers have been Jews.

A self-hating Jew? Now that is odd

Adyx

The Israeli wrote: »

by Assaf Wohl
OP's waffle

Do you even know what a Semite is? And you don't need to be "leftist" or "a pinko liberal" (favoured by some on Boards) to find the crimes committed by the Israeli army and some Israeli people, abhorrent.

Oranage2

To the OP -

Why did you kill baby Jesus?

ScumLord

I happened to like "don't mess with the Zohan" so I'm not Anti-Semitic at all. Can you amend the post to say all lefties (except scumlord)?

teddy_303

Get off their land and stop using the hollocaust as a licence to commit war crimes and acts of depravity, against civillians using illegal weapons on children and the elderly, as a form of collective punishment, by your murderous unconscionable government. pfft.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Jesus was a jew and I love Jesus

tricky D

Yawn.

The Shoah, almost all of us here weren't alive at the time. Our consciences are perfectly clear.

That's some victimisation complex you have there. It clouds your judgement and makes you victimise innocent people. You should try to stop that.

At least you've fixed your Megaphone.

Pauleta

Roger Waters was always my least favourite member of Floyd.

And to The Israeli. If you are from Israel i would like to express my full support for your right to defend yourself and my full condemnation of the left wing loons in this country who underhandedly support these savage terrorist groups. I would like to think our nation is in support of our friends in Israel but the evil forces of the left are very vocal minority. Shalom my friend.

Redlion

Look, we'll start buying your chalk again if ya promise not to start another thread like this!

CreepingDeath

The Israeli wrote: »

Hello there, global leftist:
Almost every day, Israel's citizens are told of more displays of hostility by you against us

Yawn... and how many rocket attacks has Ireland launched on Israel ?

Nope.
You're probably one of those cowardly types who escaped Israel to the safety of Ireland and wants to "continue the fight" here.

The truth is nobody here cares about Israel, we've enough to be worrying about. If you're so brave, then why don't you return to Israel and sign up for the defence forces or something.

karma_

Pauleta wrote: »

Roger Waters was always my least favourite member of Floyd.

And to The Israeli. If you are from Israel i would like to express my full support for your right to defend yourself and my full condemnation of the left wing loons in this country who underhandedly support these savage terrorist groups. I would like to think our nation is in support of our friends in Israel but the evil forces of the left are very vocal minority. Shalom my friend.

This would be funny if it wasn't so predictable.

Playboy

The Israeli propaganda machine in action lol! A government that spends significant sums on propaganda then accuses us of being brainwashed by the Palestinians who have no money, influence or support in the media. It just goes to show that Israeli crimes against Palestinians must be pretty terrible and widespread if their coordinated campaign of disinformation, distraction, victimisation and propaganda still can’t prevent us from knowing the truth. Shame on you, you are a perpetrator of lies .. trying to cover up atrocities committed in the name of greed and racism.

Sonics2k

So it's another one of those "If you don't agree with us you're clearly anti-semetic" threads right.

Get over yourselves.

phasers

Anti semitism

I'm out

latenia

The Israeli wrote: »

Now, listen to what happened Saturday. One or more terrorists infiltrated the community of Itamar, which is located beyond the protective fence. They butchered five family members with knives, including an 11-year-old child, a four-year-old boy, and a three-months-old baby girl.
Gaza residents celebrated the massacre, so this is not a case of individual madness.

How do they know this was a 'terrorist' seeing as nobody has been caught? The nature of the attack suggests something domestic or a random psychopath to me rather than a political act.

tricky D

latenia wrote: »

How do they know this was a 'terrorist' seeing as nobody has been caught? The nature of the attack suggests something domestic or a random psychopath to me rather than a political act.

They're all terrorists, doncha know. Do try to keep up.;)

BostonB

Some people just don't get the whole location, location location thing at all.

The Saint

latenia wrote: »

How do they know this was a 'terrorist' seeing as nobody has been caught? The nature of the attack suggests something domestic or a random psychopath to me rather than a political act.

The Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade took responsibility for it. It was a brutal murderous cowardly act that should be condemned by any sane person.

The rest of the OP was a bunch of ill informed ignorant arguement that falls apart at even the most superficial examination. I can't even be arsed going into it.

peasant

السلام

oh, no hang on ...wrong bloody sensitve religious zealots ..

there you go:
שָׁלוֹם

darragh16

Anti-Semetic?

The semetics are a group of people from the middle east and not just Jews.

Overheal

Wait you didn't even write that yourself you just copied and pasted it.

Thats no fun. I'm leaving.

The Jewish people are cool enough, it's their nation of Israel that's acting like a D!ck though. Not saying Gaza isn't also a dick, mind.

You know Jon Stewart and Aasif Mandvi work together right?

Napper Hawkins

How about **** Israel AND Palestine?

If you want to wipe each other out then just ****ing get on with it so the rest of us don't have to listen to your tedious, neverending ****e anymore.

Thanks.

Ditch

The Israeli wrote: »

We do not tend to explode on buses ~ At most we'll argue with you until you die of boredom.

Heh! Lolz!

Son Of A Vidic

The Israeli wrote: »

Perhaps the fact that the annoying Jews, according to the Bible at least, introduced to the world the morality which Islam and Christianity are premised on drives you nuts.

Ah now don't start that, the origins of your religion was taken from ancient Sumeria so you can climb down from that soap box.


Please stop using the tired shield of antisemitism, you nation is control by Zionist extremists and a gung ho trigger happy military with no regard for civilian life. These Zionists nuts are the equivalent of the nuts who espouse whadism in Al-Qaeda.

Now us Irish never really went on about the Famine to the rest of the world. The neglect of a starving people, eviction from their lands, forced onto coffin ships. We have moved on from that and today our relationship with Britain couldn't be better. You and your like, should take a leaf from our book, get over yourselves and rejoin the Human race.

Nodin

The Israeli wrote: »

by Assaf Wohl


Hello there, global leftist:
Almost every day, Israel's(...........)

Israel=/= All Jews/Judaism. It's a state.

States who colonise outside their borders will be treated and thought of badly. There are no exceptions, save by those who approve of such things. Stop the occupation and the settlements, and be treated as a normal state. Otherwise tough titty.

The Israeli wrote: »

Do you show the same determined disapproval towards China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela or North Korea? (...........)

You don't remember the protests against China during the lead up to the olympics, or during their PMs visit to Britain?

Iran, Syria and North Korea are al under various forms of sanctions. While Venezuela has its problems, it doesn't really belong in that list, save as some form of provocation....

teddy_303

The Israeli wrote: »

by Assaf Wohl


Hello there, global leftist:
Almost every day, Israel's citizens are told of more displays of hostility by you against us. Often we are informed of various boycotts imposed on Israeli goods, the cancellation of cultural events in Israel, and even attempts to boycott Israeli academia.


Products such as Uzi machine guns and the bloodiest diamonds known to man?

That article is inaccurate. Roger Waters left Pink Floyd years ago.

TheZohanS

The Israeli wrote: »

Moment of truth for leftists (except scumlord because he likes The Zohan)

One night, it was one fecking night...and I am a generous lover.

The Israeli

Products such as Uzi machine guns and the bloodiest diamonds known to man?

Here are some examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c

Overheal

The Israeli wrote: »

Here are some examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c

Oh yes, that old chestnut.

Keeping in mind that you didn't invent half that ****, and even assuming you did, Israel is not the sole producer of any of it.

I don't need to boycott computers, I can just buy them from China.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

The Israeli wrote: »

Here are some examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c

Oh... your country produces my intel chip? Ok then, continue slaughtering innocents, my bad.

This video is a load of shíte, most examples have nothing to do with boycotting...

TanG411

I thought this was about left handed people.

nyarlothothep

The Israeli isn't really making any attempt to defend his argument. Could he be an Irish person posing as an Israeli???

Fuhrer

The Israeli wrote: »

Here are some examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c

Israel made google?

Paparazzo

The Israeli wrote: »

Here are some examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c

They don't really understand what a boycott is

Sonics2k

Fuhrer wrote: »

Israel made google?

Irony of this poster will be immense.

OutlawPete

Went to see Mark Thomas the other night.

He had a special on the whole 'conflict' as he has just walked the around the wall that surrounds the West Bank.

Came across as a tit and if anything he made the whole thing sound trivial: kids threw stones at him and he was asked for ID, that was about it.

Memnoch

Is this the commander and conquer nostalgia thread?

'I got a present for ya.... Ha, ha, ha... That was left handed.'

The Israeli

Sonics2k wrote: »

Irony of this poster will be immense.

Google buys search algorithm invented by Israeli student:

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/business/google-buys-search-algorithm-invented-by-israeli-student-1.184884

strobe

The Israeli wrote: »

Do you show the same determined disapproval towards China, Iran, Syria, Venezuela or North Korea?

"China, Iran, Syria, and North Korea are just as bad as we are."

You may want to polish that argument a little.

Will

Looks like the JIDF (Jewish Internet Defense Force) has made it's way to boards. There's an interesting article on their site "How to Stop the Boycott of Israel and Win the PR War".

Nodin

Pauleta wrote: »

Roger Waters was always my least favourite member of Floyd.

And to The Israeli. If you are from Israel i would like to express my full support for your right to defend yourself ..........

As far as I recall, the whole criticism is based on the aggressive expansion into Arab East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Golan heights, not Israels right to defend itself....

Fuhrer

Also, did Israel really invent the Cell Phone?


I never heard that.

RichieC

Will wrote: »

Looks like the JIDF (Jewish Internet Defense Force) has made it's way to boards. There's an interesting article on their site "How to Stop the Boycott of Israel and Win the PR War".

If you blog about anything to do with world affairs or politics you'll know these guys intimately as they will be firring angry emails and threats at you 6 days a week over semantics.