big cats

brocdubh

i know i am going to slagged for this,but,has anyone ever seen an unexplained animal in ireland i.e.big cats ?
i was talking to two shooting friends of mine during the weekend(neither known to be b,,,sh,,,,ers)both say the saw a large feline,approx labrador sized in east clare,they both saw it the time from about 30 yds and from the way they described its movements it was feline.
any ideas ?:)

deerhunter1

brocdubh wrote: »

i know i am going to slagged for this,but,has anyone ever seen an unexplained animal in ireland i.e.big cats ?
i was talking to two shooting friends of mine during the weekend(neither known to be b,,,sh,,,,ers)both say the saw a large feline,approx labrador sized in east clare,they both saw it the time from about 30 yds and from the way they described its movements it was feline.
any ideas ?:)

you' right you'r gonna get slagged:D:p:rolleyes:

Dusty87

Pet Main Coon out for a prowl?? Also was it day or night. If it was day and at 30yards im sure they'd have a better idea. Colours etc?

garv123

theres a story going around in waterford/tip about a black panther released a few years ago in the mellery area.
people have claimed to have seen it a few times.
its was also said in the paper that it was seen last year in modeligo Waterford.
i know a lad who father has a farm right by mellery and has fields right up to the wood on the mountain who has lamped the place a hundreds of times and never say anything. ive been up there with him myself a few times and that story has come up a few times, that and the fairies in the fairy ring in the wood that has wiked racket coming from it:eek:

but yeah this black panther thing seems to be the stories going around west waterford.

garv123

http://www.waterford-news.ie/news/cwqlsnojql/

WHILE the mysterious “black panther” reported to be wandering the countryside of West Waterford has appeared to have vanished or moved to pastures new (Cork according to some members of the County Council), one local representative maintains the incident highlights the problem of stray and unwanted dogs.

maybe it moved to clare :P

landkeeper

not in ireland but my brother who lives in scotland, was in the local kids playground with my niece a few years ago, he saw a large black cat outside the fence in some bushes he watched it for a few minutes and then it slinked off, he said at one point it was about 20 yrds away and streched at least 6ft from nose to tail because that was the distance from one fence post to another
he is no townie who dosn't know stock ,he lives and works in the highlands and spends a lot of his free time photographing wildlife.
as he said trust him not to have the camera with him that time
here two years ago a friend had several adult in lamb ewes killed with a single bite to the back of the neck one night,no wool pulled off no scattered bits not your avearge dog attack but we spent ages looking and never saw anything after that it didn't come back didn't feed on the carcasses and it was a good grassy field so no tracks

garv123

found this thread too.
waterford people dont lie so it must be true:D
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055229423

marlin vs

garv123 wrote: »

waterford people dont lie so it must be true:D

That's for sure, a mate of mine saw it out around Stradbally and Ballylaneen, so I went out with him with the camera and got a picture of it,it turned out to be some sort of crossbreed.:D


http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6897/20110310cat0007large.jpg

fallowbuck

It is no more i killed it with my bare hands , took me 6 n half hours to bring the beast to the ground were i wrestled it by the throat for another half hour eventually it gave up , i had defeated it , i killed it in durrow near stradbally waterford.. i lost the pictures , but it was a black tiger so there can be no more sightings( unless there a family will let the people talk ):rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

garv123

fallowbuck wrote: »

It is no more i killed it with my bare hands , took me 6 n half hours to bring the beast to the ground were i wrestled it by the throat for another half hour eventually it gave up , i had defeated it , i killed it in durrow near stradbally waterford.. i lost the pictures , but it was a black tiger so there can be no more sightings( unless there a family will let the people talk ):rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

did you still feel as tough when the drugs wore off and you realised it was some little girls kitten you were wrestling? probably called fluffy.:p:p:p

serious3

here two years ago a friend had several adult in lamb ewes killed with a single bite to the back of the neck one night,no wool pulled off no scattered bits not your avearge dog attack but we spent ages looking and never saw anything after that it didn't come back didn't feed on the carcasses and it was a good grassy field so no tracks


ooops sorry mate meant to talk to you about that:D

landkeeper

no i knew it wasn't you!!! there were no welly marks on their legs :cool:

FISMA

Probably just an optical illusion. It is easy to get confused when you see an object for a small time period - your brain does the best it can.

Every now and then the moon is low on the horizon. Perhaps, over a city, some houses, or something that your brain knows to be large.

When observing such a situation, the moon looks ginormous. Later on that same night when it is high in the sky, the moon looks small again.

In reality, during this short time period the moon's size does not vary much, except for a bit of "sqaushing"/lensing. It's your brains interpretation of the moon with respect to the surroundings that leads to the impression of the low moon being so large.

Try it yourself. Hold an index card an arm's length away from your eye and mark the width the moon's diameter. Do it again later on and you'll see they match up. Most definitely not a 50% difference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_illusion

Seeing is not believing. There's plenty of times that you cannot trust your eyes.

Don't believe me? Have a look at some of these applets.
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/

Cherry picking...
- how about color induced blindness
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/mot_mib/index.html

Greyscale problems
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/lum_adelsonCheckShadow/index.html

garv123

best exapmle of above post

colour induced blindness at its best, count the people in the group

elgriff

A quick look around youtube proves their existence:

e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2wkGHAkE2o


Documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIEwY64iKNw

brocdubh

not slagged half as much as the two lads are getting !!!!!the only big cats i`ve seen in ireland where down at fota and my neighbours big tom cat

serious3

landkeeper wrote: »

no i knew it wasn't you!!! there were no welly marks on their legs :cool:

your such an amateur!! wellys are sooo last year darling!! velcro trousers are bang on trend for this year......

Glensman

They do without doubt exist.
Many sightings around the north of the country as up until recently it was legal to own a big cat as a pet.
A quick google will find the photo of the lynx the RUC shot in the 90's.
There is also the story of a UVF man (name escapes me) he was a local hero in East Belfast and had 2 pet tigers that he walked on chains as a lead (in the 60's).

Deerspotter

You'd hardly have a normal sized cat in your area with out knowing it is there... Animals do leave a trace, a large cat would be so obvious - if it was there, it would be easy to prove.
Total bollox in my opinion. 1st of April is still to come...
Save it till then.

deerhunter1

Deerspotter wrote: »

You'd hardly have a normal sized cat in your area with out knowing it is there... Animals do leave a trace, a large cat would be so obvious - if it was there, it would be easy to prove.
Total bollox in my opinion. 1st of April is still to come...
Save it till then.

oohhhh a bit harsh and arrogant don't you think:eek:

Deerspotter

Yeah, probably, no offense was meant…
It just amazes me that people want to believe in the Loch Ness Monster, big cats in Cavan, Boar in Wicklow etc…

My point is simple.

Animals leave a trace and need habitat and have habits. I am often in the countryside looking for animals to monitor and have a good understanding of the signs to spot and what to look out for. I am in many areas of the country and have been in many countries.
It is not possible for a large mammal to be in an area with NO trace.
What would they eat? Where would they sleep? Where are the foot-prints? Where is the feces? :rolleyes:

If you found the most remote spot in Ireland, a place where you are SURE you’d never be found, start taking a dump and see how long it takes you to be spotted!

I don’t always see the big Red stags in Wicklow, but I can tell they were there.
I rarely see an owl – but I know their habits and can tell you exactly where they are.

If there is a normal sized cat in an area – you will know it is there with in a week. A larger cat has no chance of secrecy in Ireland.

deerhunter1

Deerspotter wrote: »

Yeah, probably, no offense was meant…
It just amazes me that people want to believe in the Loch Ness Monster, big cats in Cavan, Boar in Wicklow etc…

My point is simple.

Animals leave a trace and need habitat and have habits. I am often in the countryside looking for animals to monitor and have a good understanding of the signs to spot and what to look out for. I am in many areas of the country and have been in many countries.
It is not possible for a large mammal to be in an area with NO trace.
What would they eat? Where would they sleep? Where are the foot-prints? Where is the feces? :rolleyes:

If you found the most remote spot in Ireland, a place where you are SURE you’d never be found, start taking a dump and see how long it takes you to be spotted!

I don’t always see the big Red stags in Wicklow, but I can tell they were there.
I rarely see an owl – but I know their habits and can tell you exactly where they are.

If there is a normal sized cat in an area – you will know it is there with in a week. A larger cat has no chance of secrecy in Ireland.

True I agree with you here 100% someone somewhere somehow would spot it, or tracks or carcass from eating or something

gregers85

I live in east clare were abouts was d original seen??? there is something round our neighbourhood at the mo driving the dogs mad at night!!! and my uncle said during d week he seen a long black thing running into a bush by our place!!! but i have to say we wer thinkin tom cat or minc not big cat haha

garv123

Deerspotter wrote: »

Yeah, probably, no offense was meant…
It just amazes me that people want to believe in the Loch Ness Monster, big cats in Cavan, Boar in Wicklow etc…

My point is simple.

Animals leave a trace and need habitat and have habits. I am often in the countryside looking for animals to monitor and have a good understanding of the signs to spot and what to look out for. I am in many areas of the country and have been in many countries.
It is not possible for a large mammal to be in an area with NO trace.
What would they eat? Where would they sleep? Where are the foot-prints? Where is the feces? :rolleyes:

If you found the most remote spot in Ireland, a place where you are SURE you’d never be found, start taking a dump and see how long it takes you to be spotted!

I don’t always see the big Red stags in Wicklow, but I can tell they were there.
I rarely see an owl – but I know their habits and can tell you exactly where they are.

If there is a normal sized cat in an area – you will know it is there with in a week. A larger cat has no chance of secrecy in Ireland.

maybe the wild boars are not in wicklow but they certainly are in ireland.
one was seen up around the vee in waterford and was shot outside a school in clougheen in south tip.


he's been there a while but few of the locals ever saw him and its not as if he's a hard thing to miss.


but this super cat, to answer your points made, it doesnt sleep, it doesnt have a home, it just roams between waterford, clare, tip, and cork as pleases. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
i dont believe the story of it seen around out area because we've been out in the areas shooting for countless hours at this stage and surely you're about to spot it

Deerspotter

I’m not saying there are no boars in Ireland. I believe that Muntjack, Boar, Kangaroo and lots of other animals have been seen and shot. The usual time-frame between spotting and being shot is usually about a week. This proves my point even further. If such an animal was stealthily enough to avoid being spotted for so long – how come it was so easily shot after its first hard sighting??
My theory is that such animals are spotted and shot or captured with-in weeks of being let out.

But just to be sure to be sure, all country men should be supplied with pistols, in-case the super-cat gets a taste for human-flesh… Then at least we can defend ourselves.

mystique150

Large cats would tend to be nocturnal and solitary so they won't be spotted as quickly as a munjac or wild boar. Also we know that people have brought in muntjac, wild boar, chipmunks, squirrels etc so why would the notion of a big cat be so unbelievable? They would be very easy to transport when they are cubs.

http://britishbigcats.blogspot.com/

Tackleberrywho

I saw a big cat last night near a moving statue in knock.
That fella from ballyfermot owns it

marlin vs

mystique150 wrote: »

Large cats would tend to be nocturnal and solitary so they won't be spotted as quickly as a munjac or wild boar. Also we know that people have brought in muntjac, wild boar, chipmunks, squirrels etc so why would the notion of a big cat be so unbelievable? They would be very easy to transport when they are cubs.

http://britishbigcats.blogspot.com/

We know that some people have released different types of animals,here's a chipmunk I got in 2007.The proof of the pudding is in the eating,no one has shot or captured a black panther yet, next people will be claiming to have seen Yeti.
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/1008/seafield032hb2.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7006/seafield033di1.jpg

mystique150

marlin vs wrote: »

We know that some people have released different types of animals,here's a chipmunk I got in 2007.The proof of the pudding is in the eating,no one has shot or captured a black panther yet, next people will be claiming to have seen Yeti.
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/1008/seafield032hb2.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7006/seafield033di1.jpg

Was it anywhere near the sighting last year in Colligan wood?
http://invasives.biodiversityireland.ie/chipmunk-up-date/

Spunk84

Deerspotter wrote: »

I’m not saying there are no boars in Ireland. I believe that Muntjack, Boar, Kangaroo and lots of other animals have been seen and shot. The usual time-frame between spotting and being shot is usually about a week. This proves my point even further. If such an animal was stealthily enough to avoid being spotted for so long – how come it was so easily shot after its first hard sighting??
My theory is that such animals are spotted and shot or captured with-in weeks of being let out.

But just to be sure to be sure, all country men should be supplied with pistols, in-case the super-cat gets a taste for human-flesh… Then at least we can defend ourselves.

where was the kangaroo shot?

John_Rambo

Spunk84 wrote: »

where was the kangaroo shot?

In the head.

LeBelleMorte

Deerspotter wrote: »

Yeah, probably, no offense was meant…
It just amazes me that people want to believe in the Loch Ness Monster, big cats in Cavan, Boar in Wicklow etc…

My point is simple.

Animals leave a trace and need habitat and have habits. I am often in the countryside looking for animals to monitor and have a good understanding of the signs to spot and what to look out for. I am in many areas of the country and have been in many countries.
It is not possible for a large mammal to be in an area with NO trace.
What would they eat? Where would they sleep? Where are the foot-prints? Where is the feces? :rolleyes:

If you found the most remote spot in Ireland, a place where you are SURE you’d never be found, start taking a dump and see how long it takes you to be spotted!

I don’t always see the big Red stags in Wicklow, but I can tell they were there.
I rarely see an owl – but I know their habits and can tell you exactly where they are.

If there is a normal sized cat in an area – you will know it is there with in a week. A larger cat has no chance of secrecy in Ireland.

So you studied zoology then? do you know how big each cat print is or just work off a guess?? how about urine spraying or scratchings on trees?? animals who were pets( a hell of a long time back) would have different habits to wild animals yes these animals might have been released so they are now wild but lets be honest if there is still large cats in ireland they might be cross breeds of larger cats, which would make their own "habits" or did you skip behavour when doing zoology? oh wait never mind you didnt do either. They would eat livestock (look up livestock attacks =] you might be surprised) wild animals foxes, DEER(we have loads of them), boar, rabbits, strays even. Do you know what big cat sh*t looks like? it looks just like large animal droppings nothing to say its a large cat. Foot prints have actually been recorded/ sightings made but as we know ireland rains too much for all tracks to be fully seen. In dry conditions sure but with our weather doubtful. The would sleep anywere really are you telling me ireland has housing on ever piece of land here =P seriously?? Am i stating we have lions tigers and bears (oh my...) no but its likely we have cats that have genetic properties that they got from large cats. Soo do you monitor everyones animals too as you clearly stated if there was an animal there you would know =P

Link for evidence of big cat kills in england from this year (cause im really cool like that) http://www.independent.ie/and-finally/deer-carcass-sparks-big-cat-inquiry-2986219.html

Link for big cat kills and (drum roll) a big cat whisker which as a tracker you will know is a rare find http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2012/04/neil-arnold-big-cat-evidence.html

Reported sightings-http://www.paranormaldatabase.com/reports/abc.php?pageNum_paradata=1&totalRows_paradata=162

and finally- the cat video that was taken and studied to have "a 6foot long cat" they ever tested the videos truth by( i love this) having a cut out cat put into the video for slace! also a fix comes into the field and the cats still much bigger =D http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4112450/Big-cat-news-6ft-leapard-like-beast-captured-on-video-in-Stroud.html

Enjoy reading.

garv123

All your links are for the uk? :pac::pac:

Cass

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