Do I really have to do the census ?

godwin

I don't feel like giving all that data to the government , If I don't answer the door and avoid the enumerator will they keep coming back looking for it to be filled out?

nomh

fill it with bull****
tell them you're a rastafarian traveler with 50 kids or something

Madam

Nope! You will however be visited by the non-compliance team and they may well advise you to do so or be taken to court:(

Fremen

The census guys are really called enumerators?

Van... Two... Sree citizens! Bla ha ha!

Jesus Wept

Might be a good opportunity to create some people.
Hello Miguel Sanchez.

biko

http://www.cso.ie/census/Ques_about_census.htm

The next census will take place on the night of Sunday April 10, 2011 and will count all the people and households in the country on that night.

Why do we have a Census?
The census results are essential tools which are needed for effective policy, planning and decision making purposes. At national level current population statistics are necessary for planning the provision of health care, education, employment, etc.
Regional figures are critical for determining regional policy and for the operation of regional authorities (e.g. Health Boards). The greatest strength of the census is the provision of detailed population figures at local level. These help to identify likely demand for schools and hospitals, areas of relatively high unemployment, the best location for new shops, etc.

Is it Compulsory?
Yes. Everybody present in the country on Census Night must be included. This is the law.

Dunjohn

Don't worry, Mr. Gummer, if any of those enumerators try to reach you a graboid'll probably eat them first.

Jesus Wept

Have my doubts that anyone is going to be charged with not filling out a census form.
Also, it's kind of hilarious that they say on their site 'It's the law.' rather than actually link to the specific law.

hondasam

godwin wrote: »

I don't feel like giving all that data to the government , If I don't answer the door and avoid the enumerator will they keep coming back looking for it to be filled out?

The probably have most of the data anyway. say you were not at home on the night.

Fremen

The government doesn't control the sky. Rent a balloon for the day.

Red Hand

The-Rigger wrote: »

Have my doubts that anyone is going to be charged with not filling out a census form.
Also, it's kind of hilarious that they say on their site 'It's the law.' rather than actually link to the specific law.

I am the Law!-Judge Dredd

I like the thread title. It conveys a teenage "oh, what a drag!" type thing.

Sonics2k

Fremen wrote: »

The government doesn't control the sky. Rent a balloon for the day.

I have some bad news for you...

bonerm

You have to fill it out. If only just to .....

-1 Catholic
+1 Jedi

AwayWithFaries

You can always just bs a bit in it. I really can't see them taking you to court unless you completely take the piss i.e.
Name: Lord of The Universe
Occupation: Ruler Of All
etc.

(Tho that is very tempting to write down )

Killgore Trout

Census data is used to plan things like schools, local amenities, public transport, traffic planning and policing. It is used by many organisations and bodies, not just the government.

If transport planning types discover an area where a load of people need to leave the house at 7 and there is no bus till 8, they may revise their timetable.

If an area has a load of young married couples, and young children there is an need to plan local schools to have capacity.

The more people fill it out the more accurate it is. The data is aggregated - so the evil government doesn't use it to collect personal information Shure they have all that already from the revenue, mobile phone use, credit card and Internet data.

Sonics2k

The Government already has most of your information anyway.

All the census is really used for is Area Development, so Schools, roads etc.

Fill out the form, it only takes 30 minutes and you can do it while watching some T.V.

chicken fingers

Sonics2k wrote: »

I have some bad news for you...

Have you seen the state of the Irish air corps lately?
They would have to fly a civillian helicopter up and shoot you down with home-made darts!

You could fly your balloon over leinster house and sh1t on their cars and theres not a lot they could do to you!

Mike 1972

OP Travel up here or across the water for a day. Our census is in late March. Was toying with the idea of buggering off down South for a couple of days myself but I think Ill leave it until the Royal wedding.

Killgore Trout wrote: »

The data is aggregated - so the evil government doesn't use it to collect personal information.

LOL
If one is predisposed to a conviction (well founded or otherwise) that the Government is "evil" why would they take them at their word on this ?

I suppose one could test it out by putting "Drug dealer" down for occupation.

Killgore Trout wrote: »

If an area has a load of young married couples, and young children there is an need to plan local schools to have capacity..

Young Married couples have to go to school now ?

Killgore Trout wrote: »

If transport planning types discover an area where a load of people need to leave the house at 7 and there is no bus till 8, they may revise their timetable..

The fleet of genetically modified 15% Horse 25% Bird 60% Pig hybrids are being developed as we speak

dxhound2005

godwin wrote: »

I don't feel like giving all that data to the government , If I don't answer the door and avoid the enumerator will they keep coming back looking for it to be filled out?

You better stay off the internet as well.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Just... for the love of God, please don't put yourself down as a Catholic, unless you actually are.

mickdw

Killgore Trout wrote: »

Census data is used to plan things like schools, local amenities, public transport, traffic planning and policing. It is used by many organisations and bodies, not just the government.

Thats the theory but in reality I wouldnt be so sure. A local government minister might do more for amenities, public transport etc than all the census figures in the world

robbie_998

what if im out ?

or asleep ?

or answer the door covered in blood with a big knife ?

or tell them to get off my private property ?

or release the hounds ?

OldGoat

Why would you not fill it out? I mean do you have a real and sensible reason for avoiding doing rather then just to 'mess with the man'?

Mike 1972

robbie_998 wrote: »

or asleep tripping ?

or answer the door covered in blood and not much else with a big knife ?

FYP

Victor

robbie_998 wrote: »

or answer the door covered in blood with a big knife ?

...

or release the hounds ?

Perhaps don't try these two together.

Aoifey!

Victor wrote: »

Perhaps don't try these two together.

Or do. It'd be much more interesting for us.

The Gnome

If you really don't want to do it just eat the enumerators liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.... <that noise>

the_barfly1

bonerm wrote: »

You have to fill it out. If only just to .....

-1 Catholic
+1 Jedi

http://www.facebook.com/irishjedis

The force is strong with you bonerm!

Nothingbetter2d

godwin wrote: »

I don't feel like giving all that data to the government , If I don't answer the door and avoid the enumerator will they keep coming back looking for it to be filled out?

are you illegally here then? sounds like you might be.... more importantly why? ireland has become a crap hole right now. (thanks FF & rogue bankers)

Nothingbetter2d

the_barfly1 wrote: »

http://www.facebook.com/irishjedis

The force is strong with you bonerm!

feck jedi's thats so british, why cant we all say we are maquis seperatists?

ilovesleep

So the census is used for planning. Like the way the last government used the information to help their developer mates to build a load of houses that nobody needed - 120,000 of them empty. All owned by NAMA now which we are paying for. The census crowd can fcuk right off from me. The government will use the information badly, FCUK UP, and send us the bill. They'll have to lick my arse for that census form from me.

godwin

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

are you illegally here then? sounds like you might be.... more importantly why? ireland has become a crap hole right now. (thanks FF & rogue bankers)

OldGoat wrote: »

Why would you not fill it out? I mean do you have a real and sensible reason for avoiding doing rather then just to 'mess with the man'?

I'm Irish , I just don't want to partake in the census.

OldGoat

Perhaps the census form should include a tickbox for 'Meh, apathy'.

Dravokivich

godwin wrote: »

I don't feel like giving all that data to the government , If I don't answer the door and avoid the enumerator will they keep coming back looking for it to be filled out?

godwin wrote: »

I'm Irish , I just don't want to partake in the census.

First off... you are afraid of giving them too much info...

which is basically just "name, address, job, religion, age, how many dependancies..."

Then you say you just couldn't be arsed?

Get out of that nonsense...

Joey the lips

We have vays of makin you talk.... :cool:



No sense of national pride anymore...

Oh wait... Cue the 6 pints and the god save ireland song at the end of the night in the pub :rolleyes:


Its only a census....

Its usued for stats data...

Like for example..

There is 4.5 million people living in ireland and michael healy raes voters are all sheep shaggers...

You know...Stuff like that.,

Cabaal

Fremen wrote: »

The government doesn't control the sky. Rent a balloon for the day.

Yes they do its Irish airspace

Cú Giobach

godwin wrote: »

I don't feel like giving all that data to the government , If I don't answer the door and avoid the enumerator will they keep coming back looking for it to be filled out?

Just say you were somewhere else and listed on a different households form. Easy.

godwin

Dravokivich wrote: »

First off... you are afraid of giving them too much info...

Then you say you just couldn't be arsed?

Did I ?

godwin wrote: »

I don't feel like giving all that data to the government

godwin wrote: »

I just don't want to partake in the census.

Smcgie

This AH response is something I expected.

All you "I'm not fillin it out cause I'm awkward...etc"
When you apply for a driving license or passport of the government do you say, ak sure I'm not fillin that out?... No you don't.

Besides some of yee are militant in the fact you won't fill it out but going by maturity your mams will fill it in without you knowing :P

Also think of the people that actually go door to door trying to earn a few pound, its not ethical to make their lives a misery just because you don't have the maturity to understand the logic behind the census.

jester77

You will become an nonentity if you don't fill it out. Everywhere you go in Ireland you will be ignored. You will stand thirsty at the bar shouting for a pint, but you will not be heard while everyone around you is being served. You will walk up to the counter in the shop to pay for your newspaper only for the cashier to stare into space while picking her nose. You will queue for your dole only for the shutter to get pulled down once you reach the window.

Don't let it be you... fill out the damn form!

godwin

Smcgie wrote: »

This AH response is something I expected.

All you "I'm not fillin it out cause I'm awkward...etc"
When you apply for a driving license or passport of the government do you say, ak sure I'm not fillin that out?... No you don't.

Besides some of yee are militant in the fact you won't fill it out but going by maturity your mams will fill it in without you knowing :P

Also think of the people that actually go door to door trying to earn a few pound, its not ethical to make their lives a misery just because you don't have the maturity to understand the logic behind the census.

I understand the logic perfectly well , I'm not militant , possibly awkward , I'm just curious about the ramifications of not doing the census

pickarooney

jester77 wrote: »

You will become an nonentity if you don't fill it out. Everywhere you go in Ireland you will be ignored. You will stand thirsty at the bar shouting for a pint, but you will not be heard while everyone around you is being served. You will walk up to the counter in the shop to pay for your newspaper only for the cashier to stare into space while picking her nose. You will queue for your dole only for the shutter to get pulled down once you reach the window.

Don't let it be you... fill out the damn form!

Ah, that was because of the census? I couldn't make out why that kept happening last time I was over.

Kimono-Girl

Won't somebody think of the children!


in 100 years when your great great great grandchildren are googling the 2011 census the won't find you if you changed your name or didn't partake!


i suggest having more fun, put information in it along that will freak them out

chickenchaser

sure they change the information that you put in anyway to suit their purposes...

working in data input for census one year, we were told that travellers couldn't have the religion as protestant, it could only be catholic, eventually after a letter from a travellers organisation the religions were reverted back to what people filled on the form...

Also women couldn't give birth to more than 21 children.

And the rents people paid had to be amended to fit their rules.

Dunjohn

chickenchaser wrote: »

Also women couldn't give birth to more than 21 children.

What about the men? ...Oh, wait, the census specifically tells us not to fill that section out. BLATANT DISCRIMINATION

snickerpuss

It's also an amazing historical record for future generations. *archivist hat*
Looking up all my relatives on the census has been so interesting. I can't wait til 100 years time when some great grandchild realises nanny was a pre-martial co-habiting hussy :-)

Lumen

Everyone subject to the census, that is to say of twenty years and over, will pay the sum set aside for Yahweh.

SSDD.

Victor

ilovesleep wrote: »

So the census is used for planning. Like the way the last government used the information to help their developer mates to build a load of houses that nobody needed - 120,000 of them empty. All owned by NAMA now which we are paying for. The census crowd can fcuk right off from me. The government will use the information badly, FCUK UP, and send us the bill. They'll have to lick my arse for that census form from me.

You do realise that there is a new government from today?

Also, its rather bad form to associate this with the last government. The statistics can be used to hold governments to account.

Copper23

godwin wrote: »

I don't feel like giving all that data to the government , If I don't answer the door and avoid the enumerator will they keep coming back looking for it to be filled out?

Yeah, its the law last time I checked. Stop being a self rightious prick and do something for someone else but yourself for once... jeez.

Daegerty

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Just... for the love of God, please don't put yourself down as a Catholic, unless you actually are.

I'll be putting down Devout Catholic Fundamentalist to annoy the boards.ie kb warriors

actually I might go up naart for the day

godwin

Copper23 wrote: »

do something for someone else

I help the sick and needy