Would you like to be Charlie Sheen?

SugarHigh

I feel a bit ambivalent about the whole charlie sheen situation. On one hand I feel sorry for his family because he's obviously putting them through hell for his own selfish lifestyle. Then on the other hand I'm quite jealous of the life he gets to live, in a teenage boy fantasy lifestyle kind of way.:D

If you had the means to live life like that, would you? I'm not really sure, I think I'd be too sensible.:o

Wolfe Tone

Wouldnt mind dong it for a week or so, any more and I would end up dead.

MightyMighty737

Not at all. Now, his Dad, there's a man to aspire to be like.

SugarHigh

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Wouldnt mind dong it for a week or so, any more and I would end up dead.

Ha:D He definitely deserves some credit for being able to pull it off.

SugarHigh

MightyMighty737 wrote: »

Not at all. Now, his Dad, there's a man to aspire to be like.

I wonder was his dad all that different back in the 70's?

amacachi

Course I would. If I ever had so much money that I couldn't spend it in one lifetime I'd be dead within a month from drugs.

old hippy

There just aren't enough Charlie Sheen threads these days, are there? :rolleyes:

Mrmoe

I don't think I would like to be Charlie Sheen but I wouldn't mind the money , women & attitude he has and I don't think most people would mind either. I would say that he is largely unaware of what he has and so doesn't appreciate it as much as he should.

Galvasean

I'll trade places with him. I shall take his money and good looks, get over my drug problems and become....


A SUPERHERO!!!!!!!

old hippy

I'd say he's an over indulged, egotistical individual who has never come to terms with adulthood, responsibility and all that it entails.

He should conduct his personal life in private; I think he'd get more respect that way.

Logical Fallacy

Hmmmmm.........getting smashed off my face all day and paying women to have sex with me and calling it a "win"?

Nope.

Newsflash Charlie, if you have mad loot, world wide fame and still need to pay for sex you are a total ****ing loser.

mikemac

MightyMighty737 wrote: »

Not at all. Now, his Dad, there's a man to aspire to be like.

His Dad is no stranger to drug addiction and relapses either

old hippy

feelingstressed wrote: »

His Dad is no stranger to drug addiction and relapses either

Many of us have had our moments; my problem is holding them up as some kind of situation to aspire to.

Whilst I feel sorry for the man, I also feel pity towards those who big him up as legend etc.

But that's just me, old and farty with the party days long in the tooth

cantdecide

His lifestyle wouldn't appeal to me in the slightest but God dammit you'd need a deal with the devil to be as fortunate as he has.

PK2008

Yes....yes I would

salthillman

Definitely.

sollar

My opinion is that his addictions are getting the better of him and it will come to a head fairly soon.

This time next year he will either be sober, in much worse shape than he is today or dead.

scoobymunster

sollar wrote: »

My opinion is that his addictions are getting the better of him and it will come to a head fairly soon.

This time next year he will either be sober, in much worse shape than he is today or dead.

Well, what other outcome is there for the guy?

sollar

scoobymunster wrote: »

Well, what other outcome is there for the guy?

To stay just the same as if he doesn't really have a problem and is in total control.

Scanlas The 2nd

I think this is an interesting video on the mindset of someone like Charlie Sheen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe0TR9LPONY&feature=player_embedded

Handsome Bob

Any day now Charlie will have an epiphany, become Iron Man and privatise world peace.

Hail 2 Da Thief

Would I like to be undergoing a mental breakdown whilst also abusing various substances?

Erm, no thanks!

man.about.town

yes i would love to be charlie sheen, have you seen the list of pornstar escorts he has been with.. .QUALITY. id love to bang bang tony a pornstar.

HavingCrack

Pros = Sex with loads of women, copious amounts of drugs and alcohol and loads of money.

Cons = Brain turned to mush.

Hmmmmmmmm :pac:

man.about.town

HavingCrack wrote: »

Pros = Sex with loads of women, copious amounts of drugs and alcohol and loads of money.

Cons = Brain turned to mush.

Hmmmmmmmm :pac:

my interpretation:
Pros = Sex with loads of women, copious amounts of drugs and alcohol and loads of money. Brain turned to mush.

Cons = zero

Hmmmmmmmm :pac:

Sanjuro

Apparently being Charlie Sheen makes your face fall off and leaves you dead with your children crying over you, so no. Would not like to be Sheen. Martin Sheen, on the other hand....

parker kent

I think this quote sums up why I would never in a million years want to be Charlie Sheen.

Kristina Wandzilak, an addiction and intervention specialist, told ABC News: “This is a tragedy that is unfolding on a national stage. If this were a client in my office, somebody who had been tested clean but still had this pressured speech and this grandiose thinking, I would be calling for psychiatric care. It’s a dangerous combination to have an unwell individual and to hand them a media platform. It feeds the delusion of power and uniqueness.”

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2011/0305/1224291349631.html

Sure I'd love to be wealthy and handsome. But I would never want to go through what he is at the minute.

SugarHigh

parker kent wrote: »

I think this quote sums up why I would never in a million years want to be Charlie Sheen.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2011/0305/1224291349631.html

Sure I'd love to be wealthy and handsome. But I would never want to go through what he is at the minute.

He is obviously delusional but why is that important? It's only a negative from our perspective.

When he say's he's on a drug called Charlie sheen he isn't too far wrong. He has obviously fed his own delusions but why should it be something to stop. Yes it is destructive if he wanted to live the type of life everyone else is telling him he should but from his perspective he's doing the right thing so why should it matter what we think?

parker kent

SugarHigh wrote: »

He is obviously delusional but why is that important? It's only a negative from our perspective.

When he say's he's on a drug called Charlie sheen he isn't too far wrong. He has obviously fed his own delusions but why should it be something to stop. Yes it is destructive if he wanted to live the type of life everyone else is telling him he should but from his perspective he's doing the right thing so why should it matter what we think?

I know what we think is not important. My point is that he is deeply troubled whatever he may say in his rambles. It should be something to stop because it is clearly ruining his health. Look at the difference in him in his recent interviews and compared to even 18 months ago. He looks a sick man and he could end up paying a big price for it.

There is nothing positive in addiction, even if somebody is in a deluded state and thinks they are doing exactly what they want. If he hasn't drank or drugged himself to death by then, he may seriously regret the damage he is doing to his body in time to come. Even is that regret is not being able to see his kids or some other perfectly possible side effect to his lifestyle.

metrovelvet

Does anyone else see a deeply troubled man who is going to destroy himself and the media and all this attention is enabling his public demise?

SugarHigh

parker kent wrote: »

I know what we think is not important. My point is that he is deeply troubled whatever he may say in his rambles. It should be something to stop because it is clearly ruining his health. Look at the difference in him in his recent interviews and compared to even 18 months ago. He looks a sick man and he could end up paying a big price for it.

Is it anyone else's business if he wants to ruin his health? I'm including his wife and kids in that btw.

DeVore

When I die, I want Charlie Sheen's life to flash in front of my eyes!

DeV.

SugarHigh

metrovelvet wrote: »

Does anyone else see a deeply troubled man who is going to destroy himself and the media and all this attention is enabling his public demise?

I wouldn't say deeply troubled just deeply delusional. I think we're all delusional and it just so happen that most of us are on the same wavelength with the same delusions so we don't worry about them.

If he destroys himself than so be it, he should be allowed to make that decision and it shouldn't be up to anyone else to say he isn't capable of it.

parker kent

SugarHigh wrote: »

Is it anyone else's business if he wants to ruin his health? I'm including his wife and kids in that btw.

Well I disagree with you there. To me, a father and husband should always consider the effect their actions will have on their children/wife. I've unfortunately known people very close to me with addiction issues, and I have seen the impact it has on lives. I see the "it's nobody else's business" line as the height of selfishness. If you have kids, you made the choice to have that responsibility. If he were kid free, I'd probably agree it is nobody else's business. But he lost that right when he had kids.

Anyway, I originally made that point in view of the OP's question. Would I like to be Charlie Sheen? No because I don't want to have a chronic illness due addiction problems. I don't want to doubt whether I will live past 50. I don't want to be unsure if anybody actually loves me for who I am. I don't want to have chronic liver, kidney and heart problems brought on by substance abuse. I'd rather be an average person living a happy life than a millionaire living his life.

Edit: Before I get the Andy Gray/Richard Keys treatment....I should have said a parent or spouse!

Ally Dick

I'd rather be Colin Farrell than Charlie Sheen. He is going about his business e.g squiring women left right and centre, in a quiet dignified way. Being Charlie Sheen must be a pain in the @rse. All those press conferences must be torture

minidazzler

TBH, I admire alot of the older hell raisers, the Humphrey Bogarts, Errol Flynn types. Charlie sheen is like a cheap imitation, a trainwreck we can't look away from. But I have no problem with how he lives his life. I am quite jealous in some ways. It would be fun if there was an "off" mode. Where you get to chill.

parker kent

minidazzler wrote: »

TBH, I admire alot of the older hell raisers, the Humphrey Bogarts, Errol Flynn types. Charlie sheen is like a cheap imitation, a trainwreck we can't look away from. But I have no problem with how he lives his life. I am quite jealous in some ways. It would be fun if there was an "off" mode. Where you get to chill.

I think the only difference between Charlie Sheen and the older hell raisers is that we see more of his idiocy so he looks more pathetic. Older hell raisers were largely kept away from normal people. If they had a Twitter account, paparazzi, the Internet etc we would know more about them and see them in a less idealized manner. Most movie stars from the 30s, 40s, 50s are idealized due to the era they acted in.

minidazzler

parker kent wrote: »

I think the only difference between Charlie Sheen and the older hell raisers is that we see more of his idiocy so he looks more pathetic. Older hell raisers were largely kept away from normal people. If they had a Twitter account, paparazzi, the Internet etc we would know more about them and see them in a less idealized manner. Most movie stars from the 30s, 40s, 50s are idealized due to the era they acted in.

I would agree with that, but still, quite awesome people!

parker kent

minidazzler wrote: »

I would agree with that, but still, quite awesome people!

I wonder what would the world think of Bogart were he around now? He died aged 57, weighing 36 kilos. He smoked and drank himself to death. I'm not trying to be purposely controversial or iconoclastic, but the only difference between Bogie and Charlie (well other than Oscars and a lasting legacy :pac:) is we didn't see Bogart fall apart in his 50s. But we are seeing Charlie Sheen at his worst.

take everything

SugarHigh wrote: »

Is it anyone else's business if he wants to ruin his health? I'm including his wife and kids in that btw.

Yes, if he's mentally unwell.
Intervention is warranted if someone is hypomanic/manic.
Grandiose delusions -> poor decision making -> behaviour that he's gonna regret/that will destroy him.
He seems to be some way there and i'm surprised it's gone on for so long tbh.

HavingCrack

SugarHigh wrote: »

Is it anyone else's business if he wants to ruin his health? I'm including his wife and kids in that btw.

That's a bit of a stupid thing to say. If he was single with no children I'd be inclined to agree with you to an extent. However how many children want to see their father abusing drugs and alcohol and drinking himself to an early grave? How many women would want to be married to someone who is clearly going if not already gone mad? Clearly they do have reasons to be concerned about his health?

As an aside, going by his past history he's quite capable of doing damage to other people. In his present state I'd say he's a danger.

Sonics2k

Yes.

Absolutely.

He's rich

SugarHigh

All the people saying they wouldn't want to be Charlie Sheen because of how selfish and damaging to other he is are not realising that these things would not matter if you had the personalty type of Charlie.

It's kind of like a straight guy saying "I'm glad I'm not gay because I don't want to fúck men" if you were gay your issue with shagging men would obviously go away.:D

Charlie obviously doesn't go around feeling like he's a terrible selfish person because he couldn't give a shít, which is kind of why I'm jealous.

Logical Fallacy

SugarHigh wrote: »

All the people saying they wouldn't want to be Charlie Sheen because of how selfish and damaging to other he is are not realising that these things would not matter if you had the personalty type of Charlie.

It's kind of like a straight guy saying "I'm glad I'm not gay because I don't want to fúck men" if you were gay your issue with shagging men would obviously go away.:D

Charlie obviously doesn't go around feeling like he's a terrible selfish person because he couldn't give a shít, which is kind of why I'm jealous.

We can only give answers from our own point of view, as we are being asked the question.

Snowie

so what he takes drugs ?

hes having a good time and earned it....


The greatest poets song writer singer actor have all had there drug problems its what makes them so great ..... :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5aSa4tmVNM

he still on something he does look gaunt he does look old and he does have a problem bnut sure 50.000 men all over the world have addiction problems...

CDfm

OK - he is sleeping with 2 twenty something porn stars and living in a mansion -but is he happy ?

I mean really weeding the flowerbeds happy and trimming the lawn happy.

Washing the car happy.

I can imagine he will wake up shortly and say to himself - what was I thinking.

parker kent

CDfm wrote: »

OK - he is sleeping with 2 twenty something porn stars and living in a mansion -but is he happy ?

I mean really weeding the flowerbeds happy and trimming the lawn happy.

Washing the car happy.

I can imagine he will wake up shortly and say to himself - what was I thinking.

That's not exactly the full picture.

metrovelvet

Yeah- He left out the chronic suicide part.

Logical Fallacy

parker kent wrote: »

That's not exactly the full picture.

True, he also lost his job.

The recession is hitting everyone, whether they be bi-winning or not.

metrovelvet

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

True, he also lost his job.

The recession is hitting everyone, whether they be bi-winning or not.

Even rockstars from Mars. No one is immune.

parker kent

metrovelvet wrote: »

Even rockstars from Mars. No one is immune.

I liked Judd Apatow's tweet yesterday on this.

@charliesheen going from a hugely successful show which pays you millions to a free podcast might not be "winning". Depends on definition.

But the idea that "he has 2 young girls" therefore he must be awesome is very childish. It is not as if he is the only man in the world who can have sex with women. And most are not alcoholic, drug addicts with an increasingly shortened life expectancy.