blasphemy towards christians

ro09

Hi,
there is a lot of blasphemy on boards.ie all aimed at christian beliefs.

there is a lot of very offensive remarks and hate filled sentiment towards people who are of the christian faith.

I think these type of threads should be removed as blasphemy in Ireland is illegal and most media broadcasters in ireland have to abide by strict guidlines in relation peoples religious beliefs.

thank you.
ronan

tbh

ro09 wrote: »

Hi,
there is a lot of blasphemy on boards.ie all aimed at christian beliefs.

there is a lot of very offensive remarks and hate filled sentiment towards people who are of the christian faith.

I think these type of threads should be removed as blasphemy in Ireland is illegal and most media broadcasters in ireland have to abide by strict guidlines in relation peoples religious beliefs.

thank you.
ronan

don't worry about it Ronan, they'll get what's coming to them on the day of judgement.

The Hill Billy

Armageddon out of here!



* Get's coat and rosary beads *

28064212

ro09 wrote: »

Hi,
there is a lot of blasphemy on boards.ie all aimed at christian beliefs.

there is a lot of very offensive remarks and hate filled sentiment towards people who are of the christian faith.

I think these type of threads should be removed as blasphemy in Ireland is illegal and most media broadcasters in ireland have to abide by strict guidlines in relation peoples religious beliefs.

thank you.
ronan

Blasphemy Law:

(1) A person who publishes or utters blasphemous matter shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable upon conviction on indictment to a fine not exceeding €25,000.
(2) For the purposes of this section, a person publishes or utters blasphemous matter if—
(a) he or she publishes or utters matter that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion, thereby causing outrage among a substantial number of the adherents of that religion, and
(b) he or she intends, by the publication or utterance of the matter concerned, to cause such outrage.
(3) It shall be a defence to proceedings for an offence under this section for the defendant to prove that a reasonable person would find genuine literary, artistic, political, scientific, or academic value in the matter to which the offence relates.

Go ahead and report it to the authorities if you can find any cases that fit the above

Sarky

Why not forgive them?

old hippy

No, stone them

stovelid

Why can't we just all dump on the towel-heads instead?

Adam

i think people shouting 'ban the non-believers' should be banned!

TheZohanS

Adam wrote: »

i think people shouting 'ban the non-believers' should be banned!

And what does Eve think about this?

El Weirdo

tbh wrote: »

don't worry about it Ronan, they'll get what's coming to them on the day of judgement.

Not long now. 21st May.

Cookie_Monster

TheZohan wrote: »

And what does Eve think about this?

nothing, she's too busy "playing" with that snake

IITYWYBMAD

So a person brings an item of genuine concern to him to feedback, and this is what he gets? What a crock of s**t. You should all be banned from FB, as this is getting oh so typical.

28064212

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

So a person brings an item of genuine concern to him to feedback

And yet doesn't give a single example of what they're talking about

IITYWYBMAD

28064212 wrote: »

And yet doesn't give a single example of what they're talking about

Why don't you ask him then?

28064212

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

Why don't you ask him then?

I did. I told him to find these "blasphemies" and report it to the relevant authorities

IITYWYBMAD

28064212 wrote: »

I did. I told him to find these "blasphemies" and report it to the relevant authorities

Apologies, I thought you said he did not give examples. I can clearly see where you told him what to do. My comments where not directed at you specifically.

dr.bollocko

Well this is going well.
OP your behaviour in after hours, those posts that got you banned... somewhat less than christian no?

Dudess

ro09 wrote: »

there is a lot of very offensive remarks and hate filled sentiment towards people who are of the christian faith.

Only towards hate filled people who are of the christian faith - like you.

who the fug

ro09 wrote: »

Hi,
there is a lot of blasphemy on boards.ie all aimed at christian beliefs.

there is a lot of very offensive remarks and hate filled sentiment towards people who are of the christian faith.

I think these type of threads should be removed as blasphemy in Ireland is illegal and most media broadcasters in ireland have to abide by strict guidlines in relation peoples religious beliefs.

thank you.
ronan

I never understood why god needs a law created by man to protect him, sort say he is not all powerful, in fact it hints that he may not exist

Overheal

Having had a look back at some of your Posts OP - aside from the bits that have been Moderated, your views about religion don't fit with the Blasphemy law. The idea that people should get respect for being religious, or that being religious should protect someone from criticism. Nobody has gone and said Jesus is an alien thats having sex with Allah in a war for your soul or anything. Nobody is Blaspheming against Christian beliefs. Criticizing a church is another matter entirely. There are many churches, most of which get on without incident; there just happens to be one church in particular which people have come out to criticise on important political grounds - which judging from some of the recent threads you've been involved in, is probably what you're taking offense to.

Only towards hate filled people who are of the christian faith - like you.

More precisely, toward hateful people; that they are Christian is subsequent to that.

Humans eh!

Be a damned boring forum if no one disagreed with anyone else imo.
Everyone on boards holds some beliefs of one sort or another, legalise drugs, don't pay taxes, drive topless - whatever, its only when an invisible fictional character is thrown into the mix that it becomes a blasphemy.

Hate filled sentiment is a bit strong and I do believe that the Mods do a good job of keeping personal insulting posts under control. If your belief system doesn't stand up to scrutiny then you should really think very carefully if it is a way to live your life.

"Peter Griffin should die!" could be a blasphemy to some.

Boards.ie is not for the thin skinned.
Anyway turn the other cheek and all that.
Have a nice day!

Delirium

ro09 wrote: »

Hi,
there is a lot of blasphemy on boards.ie all aimed at christian beliefs.

there is a lot of very offensive remarks and hate filled sentiment towards people who are of the christian faith.

I think these type of threads should be removed as blasphemy in Ireland is illegal and most media broadcasters in ireland have to abide by strict guidlines in relation peoples religious beliefs.

thank you.
ronan

Is every other religious group that isn't Christian not by the very nature of their beliefs, committing blasphemy against Christian beliefs?

Just because someone doesn't share your beliefs, that doesn't remove the opportunity to discuss those beliefs on boards.ie, as long as they don't break any charter rules.

Sure everyone knows the last spot in Heaven was already filled.

ro09

oh whats this.... all the little boys club ganging up on me. dont worry i wont take it to heart.

although you might want to become individuals and stop hiding behind each others opinions you will feel better for it. just because your electronic mate says one thing it doesn't mean you have to suck up to him.

after all . they are not your real mates. come on now folks.

AckwelFoley

ro09 wrote: »

Hi,

Hello there ronan

ro09 wrote: »

Hi,
there is a lot of blasphemy on boards.ie all aimed at christian beliefs.

is there? im a few years here, i dont think ive seen it... examples would benefit the discussion

ro09 wrote: »

I think these type of threads should be removed as blasphemy in Ireland is illegal and most media broadcasters in ireland have to abide by strict guidlines in relation peoples religious beliefs.

Boards.ie is not a media broadcaster, its a community internet forum therefore not regulated by ther BAI, that said, i know that boards.ie do not tolerate genuine marginalisation or incitement of hate toward any section of the community.

ro09 wrote: »

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thank you.
ronan

You're welcome
Brian

dr.bollocko

ro09 wrote: »

oh whats this.... all the little boys club ganging up on me. dont worry i wont take it to heart.

although you might want to become individuals and stop hiding behind each others opinions you will feel better for it. just because your electronic mate says one thing it doesn't mean you have to suck up to him.

after all . they are not your real mates. come on now folks.

No you're entirely right. Because people don't agree with you they're all wrong. All of them are wrong. Everyone else in the whole forum is incorrect and you're the only one who is enlightened.
Well its the only rational conclusion to draw no?

ro09

I've had enough , i'm going to watch Emmerdale and put the day behind me. But think about what I've said and take a look at some of the posts about holy communion and the Alive magazine.

I got banned rightfully for inappropriate language but someone called me a fool in their post and nothing. not a whisper from the moderator.

Anyway.
Oiche maith

Delirium

ro09 wrote: »

oh whats this.... all the little boys club ganging up on me. dont worry i wont take it to heart.

Good, as that's not what's happen
although you might want to become individuals and stop hiding behind each others opinions you will feel better for it. just because your electronic mate says one thing it doesn't mean you have to suck up to him.

after all . they are not your real mates. come on now folks.

:rolleyes:



Get what you're looking for yet?

Overheal

ro09 wrote: »

oh whats this.... all the little boys club ganging up on me. dont worry i wont take it to heart.

although you might want to become individuals and stop hiding behind each others opinions you will feel better for it. just because your electronic mate says one thing it doesn't mean you have to suck up to him.

after all . they are not your real mates. come on now folks.

What are people meant to be hiding, exactly? Who is there to suck up to?

Nowhere in your posts here do you provide examples of blasphemous content on this website. If you want to make a case - either here or in a district court - that there are blasphemous comments here, you'd want to be able to highlight them.

I suggest if you don't want to be offended by other people's views you shouldn't venture into the Atheism & Agnosticism forum, or lend weight to opinions that conflict with your own.

As a matter of interest though do you have examples of blasphemy that you would like to have addressed?

gandalf

Have you reported these posts? Or can you post links to the blasphemous threads in question?

Overheal

ro09 wrote: »

I've had enough , i'm going to watch Emmerdale and put the day behind me. But think about what I've said and take a look at some of the posts about holy communion and the Alive magazine.

Last week along boards generated 95,976 new posts. It would help if you were able to provide URL links to the posts you are concerned about, or report them using the function on the posts themselves to alert them to a moderator. There are fewer than 500 moderators and other volunteers on the site who do not jointly have time to review all of them. Using the Report Feature helps out a tremendous amount.

I got banned rightfully for inappropriate language but someone called me a fool in their post and nothing. not a whisper from the moderator.

Anyway.
Oiche maith

You should report the post where you believe you were called a fool, as it may have escaped notice. Again, the high volume of posts means it might not have been seen by a moderator. What likely happened is whomever you were arguing with reported you before you reported them, and instead of you reporting them, you chose to respond in kind. This is what got you banned, I reckon.

I tried doing a word search in the threads you have recently visited and found no occurrence of the word "fool". Either I missed something or you were paraphrasing.

Aside from that if you want to complain about the moderator and about a specific instance this isn't the thread to discuss it in. More on point, you say there is Blasphemy on the site and indirectly you claim that is unconstitutional. Examples are needed. I and others would like to know whether it's true or not.

looksee

ro09 wrote: »

I've had enough , i'm going to watch Emmerdale and put the day behind me. But think about what I've said and take a look at some of the posts about holy communion and the Alive magazine.

I got banned rightfully for inappropriate language but someone called me a fool in their post and nothing. not a whisper from the moderator.

Anyway.
Oiche maith

Well I didn't trawl for posts but I would agree that many people's attitude to their mercenary little darlings' first communion amounts to blasphemy, and the Alive magazine's view of Christianity also borders on blasphemy.

Wolfe Tone

If they are blasphemous it raises an important issue, some clearly are intended to be blasphemous and cause offense.

LoLth

If a user finds a post blasphemous (in the legal sense of the word - and which is imho an incredibly backwards law but thats besides the point) then please report the post. Mods, and boards, can only act on issues if they are brought to our attention.

However, please be certain to distinguish between blasphemy and a statement that makes you feel uncomfortable. Just because you dont agree with it, doesnt mean its wrong (unless you are the pope and its a question of interpretation of catechism, in which case you're seemingly infallible).

Hmmm,

Now I'm not with the OP on this (If he's serious about Blasphemy, then he should give specific examples or GTFO) but is snarking at him AH-style just because he's religious/doesn't believe the Truth is Atheism (not saying anyone said that, but I think some of you think it to yourselves) on in Feedback?

I mean, would you give "godless/ you're going to Hell/ smugness/whatever" quips if he was a Dawkins fanboy?

Far better to take the high road and say "examples or GTFO" than be dragged to his snarking level.

We already had this debate in my thread and it was fairly resolved.

There's people out there who take a slur against what they believe in the same way an ethnic african would react to being referred to as "boy" or "N**ger". Do we tell them to man up & take it?

Stating as fact that there is a god/no god/whatever I find to be extremely ignorant of the other side, and I'd equate it with the "women back in the kitchen" jibes you see some of the time. When the joke is first made you roll eyes and say "ah jeez", it's when you get "no wait, he's serious" that you see ignorance.

Simple

Joke about "god, no god, whatever"- Grand. Throw in a smiley or a rolleyes to take out the snarkiness.

Going further than that-Stating a tenet of your belief as fact, making a "why don't you *insert religious action detail*?" snark, sweeping generalisations of the religion = a bit much.

Whatever about what you believe, the "don't be a dick" rule should shove your belief face-down into the mud until it doesn't breath any more.

That goes for Polytheists, Monotheists, Agnostics and Atheists alike.

28064212

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmmm,

Now I'm not with the OP on this (If he's serious about Blasphemy, then he should give specific examples or GTFO) but is snarking at him AH-style just because he's religious/doesn't believe the Truth is Atheism (not saying anyone said that, but I think some of you think it to yourselves) on in Feedback?

I mean, would you give "godless/ you're going to Hell/ smugness/whatever" quips if he was a Dawkins fanboy?

If someone came in and posted this:

Hi,
there is a lot of religious nonsense on boards.ie

there is a lot of very offensive remarks and hate filled sentiment towards people who believe in the scientific method

...
...
[Ok, I'm not really sure how I'd go about making an equivalent point about atheism with regard to the blasphemy law, but you get what I'm saying]

and gave no examples, you don't think that would get the same level of replies? Of course it would. Post crap and you're going to receive crap in return

Also, it's worth pointing out that Lolth (Feedback Admin) and Overheal (Feedback Mod) are the only people who have posted here that are not posting as normal users, and their posts were exactly what they should be: helpful and polite

28064212

28064212 wrote: »

If someone came in and posted this:

and gave no examples, you don't think that would get the same level of replies? Of course it would. Post crap and you're going to receive crap in return

Also, it's worth pointing out that Lolth (Feedback Admin) and Overheal (Feedback Mod) are the only people who have posted here that are not posting as normal users, and their posts were exactly what they should be: helpful and polite

Cool with that. Just wanted to throw it out there for the ordinary posters to chew over

Edit- just to add "blasphemy! blasphemy! the bombers go blast for me!"

Dudess

ro09 wrote: »

oh whats this.... all the little boys club ganging up on me.

Some girls too (I know, they'd let women do anything these days...) and they're not ganging up on you, they're just disagreeing with you.

although you might want to become individuals and stop hiding behind each others opinions you will feel better for it. just because your electronic mate says one thing it doesn't mean you have to suck up to him.

after all . they are not your real mates. come on now folks.

Nnnnnno, those are their real opinions.

ro09 wrote: »

someone called me a fool in their post

Bet they didn't...

Gummy Panda

OP, do not be dishearten by the blasphemy uttered by these heretics.

ro09

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Well this is going well.
OP your behaviour in after hours, those posts that got you banned... somewhat less than christian no?

yes your right, i would like to take the opportunity to appologise for the use of the word "fag". I'm afraid things got a bit heated and i shouldn't have used the word. If you lift the ban i will appologise for the name calling. or alternatively you can copy and paste this apology for me.

thanks
ro.

Orion

but god hates fags - surely you're not apologising for god?

Ah come on Macros, that's what I'm on about. He's apologising and you're going for the equivilent of "surely you're not apologising for jews/blacks?" or "get back to the kitchen"

It's dick-like behaviour.

Dudess

Yeah in fairness he apologised.

Although Alive! magazine - seriously Ro, there are devout catholics who detest that publication.

Beruthiel

ro09 wrote: »

Hi,
there is a lot of blasphemy on boards.ie all aimed at christian beliefs.

A unsubstantiated comment is no help to us here in Feedback Ronan.
I will need exact examples and links to what it is you are referring to.

there is a lot of very offensive remarks and hate filled sentiment towards people who are of the christian faith.

Only christian faith?
You're not looking hard enough, there's been plenty said about other religions on this site.
As for them being offensive, well as the fabulous Stephen Fry once said, so what?

I think these type of threads should be removed as blasphemy in Ireland is illegal

An utter joke of a law which will most likely be rescinded by our new government in the very near future.

There was a time when you would be put to death for slagging off a particular religion.
Thankfully, in a civilised society, those days are well and truly gone.
As for the parts of the world where religion is still law, it's quite obvious how their societies are going and I for one, would not like to be a woman living there.

As I've said before, someones political views can be slagged to death, but religion can't?

gandalf

gandalf wrote: »

Have you reported these posts? Or can you post links to the blasphemous threads in question?

From a quick glance at his previous posts,he's opened this thread to go trolling ffs
The op couldn't care less about religion probably.
I'm surprised the threads still open.

But think about what I've said and take a look at some of the posts about holy communion and the Alive magazine.

lol classic trolling

IITYWYBMAD

Irrespective of one's own view on the "law", the fact remains that it is part of the current constitution, and there is an obligation to enforce it. Now, I have no idea what Ronin is referring to when he makes these claims, but to dismiss his claims, or the veracity of these claims, with a quotation from a comedian is silly.

The blasphemy law, also covers all recognized religions within the Republic.

Finally, a law cannot be rescinded by our Government, it can only be amended. A referendum will have to take place to rescind this bill, that's the beauty of having a constitution.

28064212

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

Irrespective of one's own view on the "law", the fact remains that it is part of the current constitution, and there is an obligation to enforce it.

True. Of course, there's nothing to suggest that anything on boards is in breach of the actual law

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

Now, I have no idea what Ronin is referring to when he makes these claims, but to dismiss his claims, or the veracity of these claims, with a quotation from a comedian is silly.

Why? It's a stupid claim if he's not going to produce any evidence. I might as well start a thread in Feedback saying boards is a secret freemason-supporter platform and tell the admins to fix it. I would be rightly ridiculed.

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

Finally, a law cannot be rescinded by our Government, it can only be amended. A referendum will have to take place to rescind this bill, that's the beauty of having a constitution.

Not true. A referendum will only remove the blasphemy reference from the constitution. That will remove the need for a blasphemy law. The law itself would still not be repealed until that is done by the legislature

Beruthiel

Beruthiel wrote: »

A unsubstantiated comment is no help to us here in Feedback Ronan.
I will need exact examples and links to what it is you are referring to.

Agreed.

Beruthiel wrote: »

As for them being offensive, well as the fabulous Stephen Fry once said, so what?

Wellllll......there's making an offensive remark to make a point, and then there's making one just to rile the other poster. This was covered by DeVore in my previous thread.

Beruthiel wrote: »

An utter joke of a law which will most likely be rescinded by our new government in the very near future.

Now it might be bad law, but it is still law. Nothing wrong with treating it on a "work to rule" basis, but law can't just be ignored because it's "stupid".

Beruthiel wrote: »

As I've said before, someones political views can be slagged to death, but religion can't?

Well that's the thing.
Political views can't be slagged to death. Just like any other distinguishing attribute, there's certain degrees of slagging which, if brought too far, are beyond what's acceptable. "Why don't ya "share" your car with me if you love communism so much?" is just as unacceptable as "STFU and get back to the kitchen bitch" or "I'm not racist but f*ck off back to your own country". Yes, there's conversations where even the above are uttered and accepted but the more vicious and hard the comment, the less conversations where it's appropriate.

tldr-you can discuss anything, but that's no excuse to be a dick about it.

Beruthiel

Ronan, after seeing the comment that got you banned in After Hours, it's clear you are a troll and we won't be entertaining you in Feedback anymore.

Continue your current behaviour and you won't last too much longer on this site.