RTÉNL Saorview-DTT Public Information

zg3409

There was a piece on RTE's "The consumer Show" last night on Saorview.

It is 16:00 minutes in:
http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=3315431

Joe O Shea is the expert interviewed. One mistake is I noticed the presenter said it was 150 to 200 Euro for a Saorview combi box and dish, but I think this should be for the box only. The Saorview combia are 150 & 180 generally.

Otherwise it's quite basic and effective explanation

zg3409

Large insert in today's Irish Independant. Paid for by DID. 60% of one page is a frequently asked questions. EDIT: SEE ATTACHED. There are cat and dog logos everywhere on it

Some un-usual answers:

Q:How much is a standard set top box
Average price is €100

Q:Can I split the signal coming into my home and distribute to each room with a television
You can run an additional signal from the RF out on the saorview box (if it has one) but you can only watch the same channel in each room.

Do we need an installer to get it up and running?
We do a one box solution which is an option for self install, but, we can also recommend an approved Saorview Installer.

Q:Can you record from a Saorview box to DVD/Video Recorder
No, only through the PVR function on to USB or hard drive memory

On page 3 there is a link to http://www.did.ie/saorview/ which does not exist. They mention their own helpine number and email address over and over again. No mention of the official sites.

One the same page they have non approved Saorview, combi and Sat only boxes for sale.


Edit: I found some references on DID's site:
http://www.did.ie/content/blog/saorview-faqs

http://www.did.ie/content/saorview

St Senan

zg3409 wrote: »

Do we need an installer to get it up and running?
We do a one box solution which is an option for self install, but, we can also recommend an approved Saorview Installer.

Thats strange (approved Saorview Installer) I didnt think such an installer existed

From Saorview.ie website
http://www.saorview.ie/equipment/installers/

Please note, there is no such thing as a SAORVIEW Approved installer. The aerial installation trade in Ireland is not regulated by any state agency. SAORVIEW recognises the above three professional installer registration bodies who assess installers prior to accepting them for membership.

I wonder have DID a connection to any of the 3 trade bodies and is using registered installers or are they approving their own Sub Contractors

SalteeDog

Middling at best. And there is at least one blatantly incorrect answer there.

"Q: Can I split the signal coming into my home and distribute to each room with a television?

A:You can run an additional signal from the RF out on the saorview box(if it has one) but you can only watch the same channel in each room."

Well that's not correct is it? Firstly you can split a signal coming into the house to as many Saorview boxes or IDTVs as you like (although signal amplification may be required).

Secondly,..I'm not aware of any Saorview approved boxes which have a RF out even if you did decide to use it. (I'm open to be corrected on this though).

copacetic

I think all the Walker boxes have an RF out.

The Cush

copacetic wrote: »

I think all the Walker boxes have an RF out.

RF loop-through?

copacetic

The Cush wrote: »

RF loop-through?

Couldn't say for sure, but definitely saw an output on two different boxes. Possibly not a loop through which would make the DID ad correct?

Cesium Clock

copacetic wrote: »

Couldn't say for sure, but definitely saw an output on two different boxes. Possibly not a loop through which would make the DID ad correct?

There are no saorview approved receivers with a modulator, all just have loop through,

Hotblack Desiato

zg3409 wrote: »

Some un-usual answers:

Q:How much is a standard set top box
Average price is €100

The next bit is even worse; it says but you may pay more for HD quality

Can't believe Saorview allowed their logos to be used for this self-serving crap. It looks like one of the boxes they're trying to flog is the infamous (as well as non-approved) Triax 537, clear out the stocks on unsuspecting punters no doubt :mad:

Also all ads for TVs/boxes/etc. should have to quote model numbers. What is a good price for one 32" Brand X could be a very bad deal for another model of 32" Brand X.

Extinction

Why can't they just do a small bit of research about the products they are selling and give out proper information? I presume staff of DID will also be giving these wrong answers to customers in the shop.

Cesium Clock

No consultation with the people who know,

Let the big boys at it, 'they know best'

Confusion? = confusion?-C

It will be right, wait and see

Rotating Egg

Just in are we, Mr. Clock?

Hotblack Desiato

What's your beef?

Cesium Clock

It's unfortunate that a major retailer cannot get simple facts regarding the products that they sell,

I would like to lay down a challenge to any 'Saorview approved installer'
To install 1 saorview approved receiver and distribute the picture from the saorview receiver via the loop through to 5 of my non saorview capable Tv's

dublinman1990

Dublin Bus has a bus marked in a part all over advertisement for Saorview. The code number of the bus is AV248, where is the reg plate is unknown.

Has anyone seen that bus while in Dublin?

Presumably Bus Eireann or Luas would do the same?

Source is here

The Cush

Article on Saorview in the Limerick Leader this weekend - http://www.limerickleader.ie/lifestyle/entertainment/are-you-tuned-in-to-digital-tv-we-tell-you-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-changeover-from-analog-to-digital-in-this-handy-guide-1-3972563

Also for anyone interested in the Limerick area there's a Saorview Information Day in the Panasonic Store in Limerick tomorrow, Friday - http://www.facebook.com/events/372512119469853/, http://twitter.com/SAORVIEW/status/215366775670456321.

The Cush

The Cush wrote: »

Rev 7.1 of the RTÉNL Saorview FAQ and Rev 1.2 of the RTÉNL SAORSAT FAQs now available

http://www.rtenl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/RTÉNL-SAORVIEW-FAQs-May-2012-Rev-7.1.pdf
http://www.rtenl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/RTÉNL-SAORSAT-FAQs-May-2012-Rev-1.2.pdf

RTÉNL Saorsat FAQ rev 2.0 now available - http://www.rtenl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/RTÉNL-SAORSAT-FAQs-June-2012-Rev-2.0.pdf

The Cush

New Saorview ad in last Sunday's newspapers, comparing initial and ongoing costs with Sky and UPC

Hotblack Desiato

About frickin' time!

St Senan

Maybe now people will realise the proper price for Approved equipment and the true price for installations.

The Cush

New Saorview switchover campaign? Is it the end for Tommy & PJ?

It appears Marty Whelan and Mary Kennedy launched it today

THE GLORY DAYS of Marty Whelan and Mary Kennedy on the afternoon TV couch are long gone.

Our hearts beat a little faster this afternoon when they had a brief reunion to launch the new Saorview changeover campaign. They just look so dang… helpful. Should our ‘Bring back M&M’ campaign start here?

http://www.thejournal.ie/in-pics-this-is-why-we-miss-marty-and-mary-on-our-tvs-540544-Jul2012/

Elmo

The Cush wrote: »

New Saorview switchover campaign? Is it the end for Tommy & PJ?

It appears Marty Whelan and Mary Kennedy launched it today

No is it the end of going digital?

Imagine Saorview and Going Digital both at the beginning had expressed the view that FTA Satellite was a "no-go" area for their marketing campaigns.

It is a pity the Dept and the BAI couldn't have at least issued licences for the new channels so that maybe by now we'd see more then just "8" Irish channels

8*

*when you consider RTÉ One+1 and RTÉjr 2 separate stations and when RTÉ News Now is considered a station, otherwise its barely 6 when you consider 3e a TV station, otherwise its just 5

Elmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMGH-NoI_IY

The Cush

Elmo wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMGH-NoI_IY

Mary Curtis, RTÉ’s Director of Digital Switchover, was on the Mooney Show on Radio 1 today discussing this and other Saorview issues.

RTÉ Player - http://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=9%3A3357387%3A82%3A01%2D08%2D2012%3A (starts at 1:10:10)

This from the Mooney Show website

Saorview - The Digital TV Switchover

This is the ad that you will be seeing on your televisions and hearing on your radios from today ... and it’s all about the switchover from Analogue Television to Digital Television. The date of the Switchover is October 24th 2012.

So what is Digital TV, how do you get it, and what does it cost? To answer those questions, Derek is joined in studio today by Mary Curtis, RTÉ’s Director of Digital Switchover...

SAORVIEW is a new Irish free-to air digital television service which replaces the analogue service, due to be switched off in October 2012. It is the replacement free-to-air service, which is there for everyone if they choose. There are 250,000 households who rely exclusively on an aerial for the service. 37% of the country relies on an aerial for at least one TV in the house. We all know someone who this directly affects. Digital TV is currently available alongside Analogue TV (it has been available since May 2011).

You will still need an aerial to receive Digital TV. If you have RTÉ One, RTÉ Two, TV3 & TG4 your aerial is most likely fine to receive SAORVIEW. SAORVIEW recommends contacting one of three professional bodies on website (Confederation of Aerial Industries (CAI), Irish Satellite and Aerial Association (ISAA), National Guild of Master Craftsmen).

SAORVIEW is an all-Irish channel platform. There are four main Irish channels (RTÉ One, RTÉ Two, TV3 & TG4), plus some new ones (RTÉ One +1, RTÉ News Now, RTÉjr, 3e).

There are two ways of getting Digital TV: the purchase of a SAORVIEW-approved set-top-box or a SAORVIEW-approved TV. A set top-box is a device that allows older TVs to decode the new digital signals, but SAORVIEW-approved TVs don’t need the box. The set-top-boxes range in price from approximately €60-€100.

Neither RTÉ nor SAORVIEW have commissioned door-to-door selling - be wary of anyone seeking access to your home or potentially mis-selling to you, buy from SAORVIEW-approved only.

If you didn't received or have lost your SAORVIEW information booklet that should have come through your letterbox, then click here to download the booklet in English, or here to download the booklet in Irish.

http://www.rte.ie/radio/mooneygoeswild/fp2012/aug01.html

Ballymore Eustace Connected Competition!

If you, or someone you know, would like a little help switching to SAORVIEW, we will be in Ballymore Eustace on Wednesday, August 15th, to help get you connected. The Mooney team and SAORVIEW will come to Ballymore Eustace for the broadcast of Mooney and the SAORVIEW street-party ... and while we’re there, we will help thirty lucky homes in switch to SAORVIEW! We will give a free WALKER SAORVIEW-approved box to each of the lucky winners and a member of the SAORVIEW or Mooney teams will come to your home and help you make the switch.

We have some specific rules:

The competition entrant or their nominee must:

• Live within a two-mile radius of Main Street, Ballymore Eustace, Co. Kildare
• Provide name, address and telephone number
• Have a working TV and aerial
• Be available on August 15th to let someone in to connect the SAORVIEW-approved box
• Answer this statement: TRUE or FALSE? “You need an aerial to get SAORVIEW”
• Entries by phone or email or text 51551 to reach us by 5pm on Tuesday August 7th
• ENTRY BY PHONE: Phone lines are open from 15:00 - 16:30, Monday to Friday - call 1850 715 900
• ENTRY BY TEXT: the text line is open from 15:00 - 16:30, Monday to Friday - text 51551
• ENTRY BY E-MAIL: entry by e-mail is 24/7! E-mail mooney@rte.ie, and please mark your entry 'SAORVIEW' competition
• Only one entrant per household, and the winners will be the first thirty qualifying applicants, general RTÉ Competition Terms and Conditions apply (see below)

It will be a great bit of fun when Mooney is broadcast live from the Ballymore Inn on Wednesday, August 15th for our big street party!

From RTÉ TEN

Kennedy, Whelan reunite for SAORVIEW
Thursday 2 August 2012

Mary Kennedy and Marty Whelan have reunited to help the country get connected to digital.

The TV presenters reunited for one more Open House to help launch SAORVIEW's Let Get Connected campaign, which asks all of us to help a family member, friend or neighbour get ready for the digital television switch-over on October 24.

Research conducted by SAORVIEW revealed that people who have already got digital TV are willing to help others in their lives who might find making the switch more difficult.

Kennedy and Whelan will be joined by other well-known faces including Derek Mooney, Nuala Carey, Sinead Kennedy and Marty Morrissey who will feature in a television promotion due to start on air from today.

For those wishing to find out how they can help a family member or friend simply Lo Call 1890 222 012, log on to www.saorview.ie or visit SAORVIEW on Aertel page 650. Local TV retailers also provide valuable advice.

http://www.rte.ie/ten/2012/0802/saorview.html

sesswhat

From October 24, households will no longer be able to pick up a signal using an old-fashioned aerial.

From the Irish Independent's Smart Consumer.

The Cush

sesswhat wrote: »

From the Irish Independent's Smart Consumer.

From October 24, households will no longer be able to pick up a signal using an old-fashioned aerial.

Digital aerial it is then :rolleyes:

http://www.goingdigital.ie/Info/Top+Questions/Do+I+need+an+aerial+to+receive+Saorview.htm
http://www.saorview.ie/make-the-switch/step-2-check-aerial/

The Cush

Marty Whelan and Mary Kennedy were on the Ray D'Arcy Show on Today FM on Wed promoting Saorview "Lets get connected"

Listen back here - http://media.todayfm.com/listenbacks/popup Ray D'Arcy Show -> Wednesday -> Part 3 -> 43:40 mins

Dire discussion with very little information for the general public, Mary tried to get some information across but Marty didn't have a clue other than the Saorview telephone number and didn't appear to be interested, seemed to be more interested in Mary Kennedy's legs on some monitor.

Elmo

The Cush wrote: »

Marty Whelan and Mary Kennedy were on the Ray D'Arcy Show on Today FM on Wed promoting Saorview "Lets get connected"

Listen back here - http://media.todayfm.com/listenbacks/popup Ray D'Arcy Show -> Wednesday -> Part 3 -> 43:40 mins

Dire discussion with very little information for the general public, Mary tried to get some information across but Marty didn't have a clue other than the Saorview telephone number and didn't appear to be interested, seemed to be more interested in Mary Kennedy's legs on some monitor.

Mary Kennedy and Marty Whelan being in interviewed by Ray D'Arcy. Rushes to the radio!

zg3409

Powercity have a part of their site dedicated to Saorview:
http://www.powercity.ie/?action=saorview&offer=saorview

I don't know how long it has been there. One of the links to RTENL's site does not work as RTENL have changed their site recently.

Generally I don't approve of them giving advice when there are official web sources but everyone is doing it.

The guide is quite clear. It's nice they offer to check if your TV is compatable. I wonder if they only check the Saorview approved list or for MPEG4 DVB-T like we do on boards? Can someone send them a model number to see?

I couldn't find any faults with the info which seems to be a first.

The Cush

zg3409 wrote: »

Powercity have a part of their site dedicated to Saorview:
http://www.powercity.ie/?action=saorview&offer=saorview

I don't know how long it has been there. One of the links to RTENL's site does not work as RTENL have changed their site recently.

The checklist appeared on the Powercity Saorview-page towards the end of Aug, Saorview linked to it from their facebook page on Aug 28th, giving it their seal of approval. I think I also saw in one of their newspaper adverts.

The option to submit the make/model of a TV to the Powercity Helpdesk to check for compatibility with Saorview has been available for while now IIRC.