Plan to bring UK clocks forward

Dub13

So it looks like the UK are going to bring the clocks forward,should we follow..?What are the pros & cons...?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12517762

Plan to bring UK clocks forward

Longer evenings could move a step closer with a government plan to move UK clocks forward an extra hour.

A "tourism strategy" will include a plan to move the clocks in line with most of Europe, bringing lighter evenings but darker mornings.

Tourism chiefs and safety campaigners support the move, but there are fears in Scotland about road accidents.

Ministers want to be satisfied the country backs the plan before giving the go-ahead, the BBC understands.

Last year, Prime Minister David Cameron indicated he was willing to consider a switch.

"The argument will be won when people across the country feel comfortable with the change," he said in August.

"It's up to those who want to make the change to make the argument to try to convince people right across the country that it's a good thing.

"People who like taking part in sporting activity and would like longer days are already quite easy to sway. That's the key to winning this argument."

The proposals will be published by the Department of Culture, Media and Sport in the coming week, the BBC has been told.

Three-year trial

Bringing the clocks forward by one hour would bring the UK into line with Central European Time (CET), which is Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) plus one hour.

It would mean, for instance, that instead of the sun rising in Newcastle-upon-Tyne at 0714 and setting at 1723, as it does at this time of year, it would rise at 0814 and set at 1823.

Tourism bosses say the number of overseas visitors would increase if summer evenings were lighter and they estimate the benefits to the economy could total billions of pounds.

But there have been fears expressed in Scotland that putting the clocks forward would increase road accidents in the darker mornings.

A parliamentary bill requiring the government to conduct analysis of the costs and benefits of shifting the clocks forward received MPs' initial approval in December.

A three-year experiment to keep BST all year took place between 1968 and 1971, but was not made permanent.

Jumpy

Farmers are going to have a field day with this one.





AHHHHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA*choke*

GLaDOS

Personally I'd like it, hate coming out of college at 6 in the winter and it's pitch black out

smk89

If the UK does this we will have to as well. Its a good idea tbh, who truly is a morning person anyway

Naikon

We copy most ideas from the brits. May as well copy this one too.

But there have been fears expressed in Scotland that putting the clocks forward would increase road accidents in the darker mornings.

Would ye feck off talkin bollox, people drive in the dark all the time
USE YOUR LIGHTS


I think we should change ours too if it means no more DST changes

Knowing this country they'll add the extra hour, but then tax us for the right to use it.

Sunnyisland

smk89 wrote: »

If the UK does this we will have to as well. Its a good idea tbh, who truly is a morning person anyway

:DNow hold on a minute, Me & thousands like me

hatrickpatrick

Not this crap AGAIN??

Every year there is a debate about this, and every year it doesn't happen. FFS, make your minds up and then LEAVE IT AT THAT. Yes or no.

But in fairness the argument against it is a very good one, and that is that darker mornings make traffic accidents involving kids going to school far more likely.

Dub13

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Not this crap AGAIN??

Every year there is a debate about this, and every year it doesn't happen. FFS, make your minds up and then LEAVE IT AT THAT. Yes or no.

But in fairness the argument against it is a very good one, and that is that darker mornings make traffic accidents involving kids going to school far more likely.

It has gone through a couple of stages in the UK system so I think it will happen this time.So the Irish Gov need to start thinking about it.

Uriel.

Another hour ahead of the US though sadly, making it harder to chat to my American friends. I hate teheran clocks going forward then back again ****e every march and October

This is only the beginning.....

http://twentymajor.net/images/jimcorr.jpg

AnonymousPrime

So Greenwich wont be at Greenwich Mean Time?

lord lucan

Feargal Quinn has going on about this for years. It makes a lot of sense imo.

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/quinn-clocks-up-a-plan-for-summertime-all-year-round-2299025.html

El Siglo

This will be great for cross border travel... Going into a different time zone after Newry... That won't cause trouble...:rolleyes: If the UK does it, might as well do it here. No doubt the farmers will release sheep on Kildare St. in protest...:pac:

AnonymousPrime

AnonymousPrime wrote: »

So Greenwich wont be at Greenwich Mean Time?

+1

Sunnyisland

El Siglo wrote: »

This will be great for cross border travel... Going into a different time zone after Newry... That won't cause trouble...:rolleyes: If the UK does it, might as well do it here. No doubt the farmers will release sheep on Kildare St. in protest...:pac:

Spain is one hour ahead of portugal and share a common border,dont seem to have any problems there, just saying.

ejmaztec

Naikon wrote: »

We copy most ideas from the brits. May as well copy this one too.

Hey, could go and colonise America and Australia AND move the clocks forward:cool:.

I remember in the late 60s when they (the UK) retained BST one winter, arriving at school in the dark wasn't fun!

It was still getting dark when we got home as well, we didn't reallt benefit at all.

Best leave it as is!

My name is URL

Can we move them forward by 25 hours so it doesn't seem like we're copying them?

Dub13

realies wrote: »

Spain is one hour ahead of portugal and share a common border,dont seem to have any problems there, just saying.

But Eastenders would be on a hour earlier,imagine the mayhem that would cause.

Son Of A Vidic

Naikon wrote: »

We copy most ideas from the brits. May as well copy this one too.

Very true and this time the powers that be won't be able to pass it off as one of their ideas. Like they normally do.

bountyhunter87

yes yes yes.. great idea.

Mike 1972

realies wrote: »

Spain is one hour ahead of portugal and share a common border,dont seem to have any problems there, just saying.

Barring the odd enclave they dont share a common language so dont watch each others TV channels ?

Daegerty

By right we should be an hour behind England as it is, with many parts of the country more than 7.5 degrees west of Greenwich

If its getting dark in London most of Ireland has well over an hour of daylight to go. So even if they change we shouldn't follow them

OPENROAD

Dub13 wrote: »

But Eastenders would be on a hour earlier,imagine the mayhem that would cause.

What about the football :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Dangerous Man

I couldn't give a fuck. Hanging's too good for them.

smk89

realies wrote: »

:DNow hold on a minute, Me & thousands like me

uugh you sicken me

Dyr

OPENROAD wrote: »

What about the football :eek::eek::eek::eek:

It would still played at the same time

oh wait you mean the soccer

robinph

bluewolf wrote: »

I think we should change ours too if it means no more DST changes

Nothing to do with the clocks going forward and back each October and March, that will still happen. Just will be going forward and back to the same hours as the CET time zone.

Fluorescence

Daegerty wrote: »

By right we should be an hour behind England as it is, with many parts of the country more than 7.5 degrees west of Greenwich

If its getting dark in London most of Ireland has well over an hour of daylight to go. So even if they change we shouldn't follow them

Yes, but it's still not really practical to be in a different time zone to the UK. Even so, Ireland being in line with some western European countries doesn't make sense either.

I'd leave it as it is.

davyjose

Bambi wrote: »

It would still played at the same time

oh wait you mean the soccer

Well, he didn't say peile, did he? Seeing as we're being pedantic...

Daegerty

fluorescence wrote: »

Yes, but it's still not really practical to be in a different time zone to the UK. Even so, Ireland being in line with some western European countries doesn't make sense either.

I'd leave it as it is.

I can't see it having much of an impact except for a small inconvenience to some companies with strong ties in England. Sure countries with multiple timezones seem to survive just fine

ScallowayLass

Living up here in Shetland Isles adding the hour on means that in the shortest daylight hours in December we wouldn't get sunrise till 10.12am but it also means our sunset wouldn't be until 15:51, seeing as my girls go to school in the dark at that time anyway then it doesn't bother me about the mornings, I feel bad for them coming home in the dark, the daylight being longer in the evenings is welcome as far as I'm concerned!! We have no night time really in summer anyway, so that wouldn't make a difference. I hate the few weeks after twice a year when they change the clocks!! Leaves everything feeling a bit muddled!!

Violafy

What a ridiculous idea. Imagine watching Coronation Street at half 6. :mad:
I'm sure Ireland will copy them soon enough though, as we can't think of anything for ourselves. Does this mean that Northern Ireland would change too?

Mike 1972

Violafy wrote: »

Imagine watching Coronation Street What a ridiculous idea.

FYP !

TheZohanS

Great idea IMO. I'd also like the EU to bring in legislation that cars are manufactured with their lights on constant dims, like they have in Sweden, to curb any potential accidents.

Daegerty

TheZohan wrote: »

Great idea IMO. I'd also like the EU to bring in legislation that cars are manufactured with their lights on constant dims, like they have in Sweden, to curb any potential accidents.

What about a forced evacuation of Ireland to mainland Europe to avoid any potential for future trouble? Us backward old Irish folk have shown time and time again we can't be trusted on our own

tommyhaas

AnonymousPrime wrote: »

So Greenwich wont be at Greenwich Mean Time?

Greenwich isint on Greenwich Mean Time for half the year anyway

Dionysus

Naikon wrote: »

We copy most ideas from the brits. May as well copy this one too.

Wow. You really have issues. "We" indeed. If you hate this country so much and are convinced that the far away fields of Britain are so much better, you can move there permanently - very, very quickly. Carrying all that hatred for Ireland and Irish culture can't be good for you, and it's certainly getting tiresome watching it here.

Xivilai

lord lucan wrote: »

Feargal Quinn has going on about this for years. It makes a lot of sense imo.

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/quinn-clocks-up-a-plan-for-summertime-all-year-round-2299025.html

"That effectively makes dealing with the forces of darkness harder".

We're playing right into the hands of EVIL

TheZohanS

Daegerty wrote: »

What about a forced evacuation of Ireland to mainland Europe to avoid any potential for future trouble? Us backward old Irish folk have shown time and time again we can't be trusted on our own

Gee that sounds like an awesome idea....ohhhh you Irish, be gorra.

BullSWD

My old man was telling me a few years back that putting the clocks back in winter was for a time when school kids and workers walked and cycled to school. This no longer happens on a large scale. Its definately a good idea. I love the long evenings. If it didnt get bright til 12 noon in the winter I wouldnt care. Long bright evenings allow for a heck of a lot more activities after work, school, etc.

Capt'n Midnight

Daegerty wrote: »

By right we should be an hour behind England as it is, with many parts of the country more than 7.5 degrees west of Greenwich

If its getting dark in London most of Ireland has well over an hour of daylight to go. So even if they change we shouldn't follow them

My name is URL wrote: »

Can we move them forward by 25 hours so it doesn't seem like we're copying them?

Actually we are in a different time zone to the UK by an hour. we just change clocks at the same time as them

101001

I for one will miss DST... who changes their clocks any more anyways... Wait... who has dedicated clocks these days

Mike 1972

tommyhaas wrote: »

Greenwich isint on Greenwich Mean Time for half the year anyway

Actually if one wants to be really pedantic nobody has used GMT since the 1970's

BullSWD wrote: »

My old man was telling me a few years back that putting the clocks back in winter was for a time when school kids and workers walked and cycled to school. .

Except we dont put them back in winter we put them forward in summer

Dionysus

Dub13 wrote: »

So it looks like the UK are going to bring the clocks forward,should we follow..?What are the pros & cons...?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12517762

As I mentioned here, until 1916 Dublin had a different time to Great Britain. From 1880 until 1916 this time was known as Dublin Mean Time. It was 25 minutes behind London time.

Daegerty

101001 wrote: »

Wait... who has dedicated clocks these days

Almost everyone?

Violafy

I hate the way time can be changed on such a whim. It wrecks me head.

Dionysus

Dionysus wrote: »

As I mentioned here, until 1916 Dublin had a different time to Great Britain. From 1880 until 1916 this time was known as Dublin Mean Time. It was 25 minutes behind London time.

Back in the day when midday was 12:00 where you actually lived, played havoc with the train timetables though as every town had it's own "midday" time.

Nulty

Why is there no poll?