Aliens

saywhatyousee

over the past while i have been reading articles about aliens and there supposed agenda,i noticed in conspiracy there is never really much talk about it.
points of interest
alien human/cross breading program
underwater/ground aliens bases
animal mutilation
human mutilation
crop circles
ye guys/gal seem very knowledgeable on these sort subjects.if any of ye have any sort of knowledge on these sort of subjects could you please enlighten me
i have always been interested by aliens since i was young.

squod

http://www.newstalk.ie/2010/news-blog/tom-dunne-clem-from-multyfarnham/

Eyewitness accounts on newstalk.ie

tippspur

squod wrote: »

http://www.newstalk.ie/2010/news-blog/tom-dunne-clem-from-multyfarnham/

Eyewitness accounts on newstalk.ie

Ha,that's brilliant.:D

saywhatyousee

squod wrote: »

http://www.newstalk.ie/2010/news-blog/tom-dunne-clem-from-multyfarnham/

Eyewitness accounts on newstalk.ie

i havent had a hangover since i had the alien!!!!!brilliant:D:D:D:D:D:D

Yakult

saywhatyousee wrote: »

over the past while i have been reading articles about aliens and there supposed agenda,i noticed in conspiracy there is never really much talk about it.
points of interest
alien human/cross breading program
underwater/ground aliens bases
animal mutilation
human mutilation
crop circles
ye guys/gal seem very knowledgeable on these sort subjects.if any of ye have any sort of knowledge on these sort of subjects could you please enlighten me
i have always been interested by aliens since i was young.

What do you mean Animal/human mutilation?

Crop circles were proven as b/s Im pretty sure. Just well organised people.

I was watching a program (Discovery Channel) on Human/alien cross breeding and they *believe* that they found the remains (skull and bones) of a human crossed with an alien in China (Cant remember where). Cant remember the full details but google it and you might find something on it.

stoneill

My theory is:
The Roswell aliens were the remains of experiments by Josef Mengele that the US continued to use and study for their own gain. They then used these live experimental humanoids as crash test dummies for secret US Military projects.

saywhatyousee

Yakult wrote: »

What do you mean Animal/human mutilation?
.

the cutting up of cows,and the supposed abduction of humans for strange medical experiments

Yakult

saywhatyousee wrote: »

the cutting up of cows,and the supposed abduction of humans for strange medical experiments

Ah I get you now!
Im skeptical about the stories tbh. The brain is a powerfull thing

Whats your opinion on these?

saywhatyousee

Yakult wrote: »

Ah I get you now!
Im skeptical about the stories tbh. The brain is a powerfull thing

Whats your opinion on these?

TBH i think there might be something goin on with the animals i was watching a youtube video where a cow was complety stripped to the bone it would of taken 3 people 8 hours to do an expert said including equipment like power washers ect
in the middle of a field
humans abduction/.hard to know really all the evidence is all on people own accounts. i am 50/50 on this one i think it might be true but there is no real evidence to go on.ill leave the jury out on this one

cursai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_9MI2ymN6s

had to do it........cripes i'm gonna be looked upon badly now!

Jimmy the Wheel

stonehill wrote:

My theory is:
The Roswell aliens were the remains of experiments by Josef Mengele that the US continued to use and study for their own gain. They then used these live experimental humanoids as crash test dummies for secret US Military projects.

saywhatyousee wrote: »

the cutting up of cows,and the supposed abduction of humans for strange medical experiments

You guys should read a recently published book entitled Mirage Men, by Mark Pilkington.

It might go some way to convincing you that Roswell and the cow mutilations were US military ops.

(it's also pretty instructive in how to approach any conspiracy theory)

MRPRO03

Yakult wrote: »

What do you mean Animal/human mutilation?

Crop circles were proven as b/s Im pretty sure. Just well organised people.

I was watching a program (Discovery Channel) on Human/alien cross breeding and they *believe* that they found the remains (skull and bones) of a human crossed with an alien in China (Cant remember where). Cant remember the full details but google it and you might find something on it.

There was one found in Mexico, it was called the ''Star Child''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starchild_skull

saywhatyousee

Just browsing youtube last night and was watching a couple of videos by phil schneider(claims to have been working in area 51 S4 and groom lake and also claims to of shot two large alien greys)i would link the videos except i dont know how.

gbee

OP, add bondholders to you list there.

Monty Burnz

saywhatyousee wrote: »

Just browsing youtube last night and was watching a couple of videos by phil schneider(claims to have been working in area 51 S4 and groom lake and also claims to of shot two large alien greys)i would link the videos except i dont know how.

Here's a video.

He's telling porkies, or else he's mad. He talks about using drills that could drill two miles a day. That's pure sci-fi. That's before you get to the aliens who live underground...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbONIQfQmDU

saywhatyousee

Points of interest from the video where
1.the whole "new world order agenda" is infact the work of reptilians and the grey's both small and large.
2.11 races of aliens which are know 3 are bad,4 undecided,4 friendly
3.over a thousand alien bases in the world
4.Alien human pact signed in 1954 between the greys and eisenhower(aliens allowed to abduct humans and animals for their saliva glands apparently it is like cocaine to them in exchange for technology advances
5.they want to wipe out 7/8 of the worlds population because we would be easier to control
6.they see humans as nothing more than a bag of meat(altough they dont eat us reptilians are said to drink our blood)
Now this last point is my own theory i was thinking about it myself
I think "Chemtrails" are being sprayed to adjust the earth so aliens can come to the surface

Monty Burnz

saywhatyousee wrote: »

Points of interest from the video where
1.the whole "new world order agenda" is infact the work of reptilians and the grey's both small and large.
2.11 races of aliens which are know 3 are bad,4 undecided,4 friendly
3.over a thousand alien bases in the world
4.Alien human pact signed in 1954 between the greys and eisenhower(aliens allowed to abduct humans and animals for their saliva glands apparently it is like cocaine to them in exchange for technology advances
5.they want to wipe out 7/8 of the worlds population because we would be easier to control
6.they see humans as nothing more than a bag of meat(altough they dont eat us reptilians are said to drink our blood)
Now this last point is my own theory i was thinking about it myself
I think "Chemtrails" are being sprayed to adjust the earth so aliens can come to the surface

Um...is it too much to ask for a single shred of proof for any of these claims?

saywhatyousee

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Here's a video.

He's telling porkies, or else he's mad. He talks about using drills that could drill two miles a day. That's pure sci-fi. That's before you get to the aliens who live underground...

Mabey so.. I just think in conspiracy theories the whole "Alien agenda" is woefully under-discussed,not just on boards but hey that could be another conspiracy :pac:.

saywhatyousee

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Um...is it too much to ask for a single shred of proof for any of these claims?

He had some sort of metal in the video which he claimed he got from the greys,he claimed it could withstand tempatures of 10,000,000 degrees element 140,although our element chart goes to 104

Monty Burnz

saywhatyousee wrote: »

He had some sort of metal in the video which he claimed he got from the greys,he claimed it could withstand tempatures of 10,000,000 degrees element 140,although our element chart goes to 104

Perfect - verifiable physical evidence! Did he get it verified?

saywhatyousee

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Perfect - verifiable physical evidence! Did he get it verified?

I dont know to be honest with you.I just have a suspicion that if he did indeed have an alien article most scientists would touch it with a barge pole for fear of reprisals

namloc1980

saywhatyousee wrote: »

I dont know to be honest with you.I just have a suspicion that if he did indeed have an alien article most scientists would touch it with a barge pole for fear of reprisals

So how does he know it an withstand temperatures of 10m degrees? Any chance we can see pictures of this mystery metal.

saywhatyousee

saywhatyousee wrote: »

He had some sort of metal in the video which he claimed he got from the greys,he claimed it could withstand tempatures of 10,000,000 degrees element 140,although our element chart goes to 104

Our "element chart", or periodical table to use it's actual name, goes up to 118: Ununoctium.

So how do you know he actually had this metal?

saywhatyousee

King Mob wrote: »

Our "element chart", or periodical table to use it's actual name, goes up to 118: Ununoctium.

So how do you know he actually had this metal?

It was in the video i was watching,he actually names the metal i cannot remember what it is called.He had other things aswell some sort of advanced titanium alloy aswell.To view the videos just type in Phil Schneider Dulce alien confrontation,i would link the videos except i dont know how

saywhatyousee

saywhatyousee wrote: »

It was in the video i was watching,he actually names the metal i cannot remember what it is called.He had other things aswell some sort of advanced titanium alloy aswell.To view the videos just type in Phil Schneider Dulce alien confrontation,i would link the videos except i dont know how

So then how do you know he's telling the truth if all you've seen is a video?

saywhatyousee

King Mob wrote: »

So then how do you know he's telling the truth if all you've seen is a video?

Well TBF thats a bit of a silly question,If had actual proof i wouldnt be in conspiracy theories would I.All i am trying to do is bring different scenarios to people attention for a discussion,i cant prove anything i dont deal with aliens on a day to day basis

saywhatyousee

saywhatyousee wrote: »

Well TBF thats a bit of a silly question,If had actual proof i would be in conspiracy theories would I.All i am trying to do is bring different scenarios to people attention for a discussion,i cant prove anything i dont deal with aliens on a day to day basis

But I'm not asking for proof, I'm asking what specifically makes you so sure that he's genuine. Is there anything at all that that makes his claims in any way believable?

saywhatyousee

King Mob wrote: »

But I'm not asking for proof, I'm asking what specifically makes you so sure that he's genuine. Is there anything at all that that makes his claims in any way believable?

1.The way he speaks liar's are usually great public speakers,you can tell he does not speak in public often.
2.The metals and artifacts he had he let members of the audience come up and look at them
There is something else unrealated Type "Area 51 frantic caller" in to youtube.
A man claiming to work at area 51 rings a radio station and the whole radio station gets cut off during the phone call very strange.It is actually disturbing to listen to the sound of fear in his voice when he made the call, really put me on edge:eek:

saywhatyousee

saywhatyousee wrote: »

1.The way he speaks liar's are usually great public speakers,you can tell he does not speak in public often.

That's the flimsiest reasoning I've seen in a while.
He could be a liar and a crap public speaker. Or he could be a lair pretending to be a crap public speaker so people would buy his act.
Or he could just be delusional.

saywhatyousee wrote: »

2.The metals and artifacts he had he let members of the audience come up and look at them

And of those who came up to look at them, who many were trained chemists, specialising in metallurgy and heavy elements?
And of those how many have the ability to analyse samples with the naked eye?
Seriously, that's not even approaching flimsy evidence.

saywhatyousee wrote: »

There is something else unrealated Type "Area 51 frantic caller" in to youtube.
A man claiming to work at area 51 rings a radio station and the whole radio station gets cut off during the phone call very strange.It is actually disturbing to listen to the sound of fear in his voice when he made the call, really put me on edge:eek:

And I heard a radio show were a guy called in pretending to be the hero from the game Half-Life and the radio host believed every word of it.

Seriously dude, you should start to apply some basic critical thinking.

saywhatyousee

King Mob wrote: »

That's the flimsiest reasoning I've seen in a while.
He could be a liar and a crap public speaker. Or he could be a lair pretending to be a crap public speaker so people would buy his act.
Or he could just be delusional.


And of those who came up to look at them, who many were trained chemists, specialising in metallurgy and heavy elements?
And of those how many have the ability to analyse samples with the naked eye?
Seriously, that's not even approaching flimsy evidence.


And I heard a radio show were a guy called in pretending to be the hero from the game Half-Life and the radio host believed every word of it.

Seriously dude, you should start to apply some basic critical thinking.

First off i take serious offence to your last line,i am just as rational as the next man and i dont like the tone of your post.I never said it was the absoulute truth this is a conspiracy theory board i was just putting it out there you should watch the video.About the metal that piece that is supposed to withstand 10,000,000 degrees its 1 and a half inchs long and 1 and a half inchs wide weighs 16 ounces:eek:

saywhatyousee

saywhatyousee wrote: »

First off i take serious offence to your last line,i am just as rational as the next man and i dont like the tone of your post.

But you don't understand how "well he let people see it" isn't a convincing or good line of argument.
And you rely on someone's tone to determine whether or not they are lying.
These aren't the stances you get to with good critical thinking.

saywhatyousee wrote: »

I never said it was the absoulute truth this is a conspiracy theory board i was just putting it out there you should watch the video.

Yea, but it's also not the creative writing board.

saywhatyousee wrote: »

About the metal that piece that is supposed to withstand 10,000,000 degrees its 1 and a half inchs long and 1 and a half inchs wide weighs 16 ounces:eek:

Right so if that's true then it's got a density of 8,200 kg/m^3

the density of pure lead is 11,340 kg/m^3

But lead has an atomic number of 82.
So how can a supposed element of atomic weigh well more than twice lead's be lighter?

saywhatyousee

King Mob wrote: »

But you don't understand how "well he let people see it" isn't a convincing or good line of argument.
And you rely on someone's tone to determine whether or not they are lying.
These aren't the stances you get to with good critical thinking.

Yea, but it's also not the creative writing board.

Right so if that's true then it's got a density of 8,200 kg/m^3

the density of pure lead is 11,340 kg/m^3

But lead has an atomic number of 82.
So how can a supposed element of atomic weigh well more than twice lead's be lighter?

Well how do you determine if someone is lying?...Looking for hand signals or voice change is a pretty rational way off thinking these are tryed and tested methods.I might of got the measurement of the metal wrong i nearly certain in the video he said it was twice as heavy as lead

saywhatyousee

saywhatyousee wrote: »

Well how do you determine if someone is lying?...Looking for hand signals or voice change is a pretty rational way off thinking these are tryed and tested methods.

Well you see I don't know if he definitely is lying, it's just a possibility. And without a shred of evidence to back him up, it's a far far more likely explanation than aliens.
Also him just being delusional is another possibility.

saywhatyousee wrote: »

I might of got the measurement of the metal wrong i nearly certain in the video he said it was twice as heavy as lead

And does he substantiate this in any way?

iPlop

saywhatyousee wrote: »

There is something else unrealated Type "Area 51 frantic caller" in to youtube.
A man claiming to work at area 51 rings a radio station and the whole radio station gets cut off during the phone call very strange.It is actually disturbing to listen to the sound of fear in his voice when he made the call, really put me on edge:eek:

The guy came back on Art bell a week later and admitted it was him having a laugh, you can find it on you tube, he even acted it out on air to prove it was him, just type in Area 51 frantic caller hoax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhLh8KJCPNI

Monty Burnz

The Incredible Fridge wrote: »

The guy came back on Art bell a week later and admitted it was him having a laugh, you can find it on you tube, he even acted it out on air to prove it was him, just type in Area 51 frantic caller hoax.

It's kind of depressing how people are so quick to believe stuff that they want to believe, throwing logic out the window.

There's stuff that I do want to believe and stuff that I don't, but that is not what determines my beliefs - the evidence does.

wildefalcon

Monty Burnz wrote: »

It's kind of depressing how people are so quick to believe stuff that they want to believe, throwing logic out the window.

There's stuff that I do want to believe and stuff that I don't, but that is not what determines my beliefs - the evidence does.

Ah, come on, leave the Property Bubble out of it. I come here to get away from reality.

Seanachai

saywhatyousee , check out the links below if you have an interest in extra-terrestrial activity.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vqGRFTmANI

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYzjMOfzJ_w

wildefalcon

Anyway - Alien Mutilation.

Why? I mean, why cut up a cow? Why travel 20 million million miles (or whatever) just for a hamburger?

Crop circles - I saw a bunch of guys making one, near Avebury, one summer, saw it reported on the news the day after.

So, nah.

Aliens? Possibly, but it's like the New Global Order theory - thank God they are crap at invading/ruling etc.

I think that most people would go Wow! and then two weeks later, unless they cured cancer and energy production (or something useful) they'd say, Meh.

So, I'm wondering what is going on with these Aliens, what are they at?

Or is it that they are lost and we're holding them captive, until we've milked them? Fine, but it won't do us any favours when the mothership arrives.

So, get on with it, I say.

saywhatyousee

The Incredible Fridge wrote: »

The guy came back on Art bell a week later and admitted it was him having a laugh, you can find it on you tube, he even acted it out on air to prove it was him, just type in Area 51 frantic caller hoax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhLh8KJCPNI

Fair enough .Thats not what i was talking about orginaly i just taught i would throw it in there.I know there is a lot of disinformation out there and some points of going to be false thanks for throwing it out there

saywhatyousee

Monty Burnz wrote: »

It's kind of depressing how people are so quick to believe stuff that they want to believe, throwing logic out the window.

There's stuff that I do want to believe and stuff that I don't, but that is not what determines my beliefs - the evidence does.

The only reson i have a keen interest in this,I seen something pretty bizarre in May 09.My friend and i were walking to my house when we seen what was undoubtedly an alien spacecraft.This would be the first time either of us told anyone and the only reason i am telling ye is because it is the internet and i will probaly never see ye.I never said a word to my friends or family for fear of ridicule and them thinking i am stone mad.

saywhatyousee

wildefalcon wrote: »

Anyway - Alien Mutilation.

Why? I mean, why cut up a cow? Why travel 20 million million miles (or whatever) just for a hamburger?

Crop circles - I saw a bunch of guys making one, near Avebury, one summer, saw it reported on the news the day after.

So, nah.

Aliens? Possibly, but it's like the New Global Order theory - thank God they are crap at invading/ruling etc.

I think that most people would go Wow! and then two weeks later, unless they cured cancer and energy production (or something useful) they'd say, Meh.

So, I'm wondering what is going on with these Aliens, what are they at?

Or is it that they are lost and we're holding them captive, until we've milked them? Fine, but it won't do us any favours when the mothership arrives.

So, get on with it, I say.

What you have to remember is that were aliens to them,if they were to invade off the bat we would probaly wipe eachother out through diseases.
They greys dont have mouths they absorb food through there skin,so i dont think a hamburger would be much good to them,apparently their after the saliva glands it like cocaine to them

CiaranMT

saywhatyousee wrote: »

What you have to remember is that were aliens to them,if they were to invade off the bat we would probaly wipe eachother out through diseases.
They greys dont have mouths they absorb food through there skin,so i dont think a hamburger would be much good to them,apparently their after the saliva glands it like cocaine to them

Have you a source for these claims?

Priori

squod wrote: »

http://www.newstalk.ie/2010/news-blog/tom-dunne-clem-from-multyfarnham/

Eyewitness accounts on newstalk.ie

He's happy enough in the big aul wardrobe, kickin about!

Funny stuff.

Priori

saywhatyousee wrote: »

The only reson i have a keen interest in this,I seen something pretty bizarre in May 09.My friend and i were walking to my house when we seen what was undoubtedly an alien spacecraft.This would be the first time either of us told anyone and the only reason i am telling ye is because it is the internet and i will probaly never see ye.I never said a word to my friends or family for fear of ridicule and them thinking i am stone mad.

Did you report it anonymously at the time? Check to see if it might have been reported by others?

If you simply told people you saw something you can't quite explain, I doubt (or hope, anyway) that they wouldn't think you stone mad.

saywhatyousee

Priori wrote: »

Did you report it anonymously at the time? Check to see if it might have been reported by others?

If you simply told people you saw something you can't quite explain, I doubt (or hope, anyway) that they wouldn't think you stone mad.

I would not have a clue who to report it too.I dont think the guards would be interested.What really raise's my suspicion about this is a rather strange article
in a local newspaper about 4 or 5 days after the incident claiming the American military were testing weapons.Why would they be testing weapons over Sligo?I was going to start a thread a few months back except i couldnt find the archive.
I was looking again just there except the archives are down.I am goin to go in and order every paper from may 2009.I would rather not name the newspaper just incase it hinders my investigation

Derfil

Ok once I was out for a walk at night ant I saw a cow getting abducted from a nearby field!!!!!!! (LIES ALL LIES)http://www.google.com/imgres?q=cows+getting+abducted&um=1&hl=en&client=safari&sa=N&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbnid=78WZNzF1ySePoM:&imgrefurl=http://paranoidnews.org/2010/04/pp2alien-abduction-lamp/&docid=787V0C1KPqEo9M&w=500&h=500&ei=PTQzTqL5BIOq8API0LWhDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=187&vpy=87&dur=812&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=86&ty=162&page=1&tbnh=157&tbnw=158&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&biw=1267&bih=631

saywhatyousee

Derfil wrote: »

Ok once I was out for a walk at night ant I saw a cow getting abducted from a nearby field!!!!!!! (LIES ALL LIES)http://www.google.com/imgres?q=cows+getting+abducted&um=1&hl=en&client=safari&sa=N&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbnid=78WZNzF1ySePoM:&imgrefurl=http://paranoidnews.org/2010/04/pp2alien-abduction-lamp/&docid=787V0C1KPqEo9M&w=500&h=500&ei=PTQzTqL5BIOq8API0LWhDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=187&vpy=87&dur=812&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=86&ty=162&page=1&tbnh=157&tbnw=158&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&biw=1267&bih=631

I went in to try and get the newspapers then i just realized whats the point spending 53 euro when no one here will believe you anyway.Its a terrible affliction i wished it never happened it just leaves me nothing but questions everytime i think about it and no answers.Im not a loon or looking for attention quite the opposite i like my privacy.I had this thread typed of out 4 times and i deleted it before i had the courage to post the OP.Then curiosity got the better and i said fcuk it if you dont ask you will never know.

paddy kerins

A couple of years ago I was in Italy and I was coming out of this restaurant one night and I looked up into the sky and saw something flying high up. It looked triangular. There was no sound so it wasn't a plane or anything like that

Monty Burnz

paddy kerins wrote: »

A couple of years ago I was in Italy and I was coming out of this restaurant one night and I looked up into the sky and saw something flying high up. It looked triangular. There was no sound so it wasn't a plane or anything like that

Would you be able to hear a plane flying at 35,000 feet?

paddy kerins

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Would you be able to hear a plane flying at 35,000 feet?

Well I somehow manage to hear them everyday

Monty Burnz

paddy kerins wrote: »

Well I somehow manage to hear them everyday

Where do you hear these planes flying at 35,000 feet? Where do you live?