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What makes a spoiled vote?

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  • #32
    Yester
    Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭Yester


    In general elections, it's when I draw an extra box on the ballot paper for Fianna Fowl and vote for Dustin.


  • #33
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,046 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    kweeveen86 wrote: »
    Yeah. Was wondering yesterday what 6,045 people did on Friday to get their vote counted as 'spoiled'?! Seems like a lot to me!
    Either they failed to express a clear choice (most probably by putting a mark in both boxes) or they marked their ballot paper in some way so as to make it identifiable (usually by scribbling protests or pious imprecations on it).


  • #34
    Das Kitty
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    kweeveen86 wrote: »
    Yeah. Was wondering yesterday what 6,045 people did on Friday to get their vote counted as 'spoiled'?! Seems like a lot to me!

    Out of more than 2 million people, that's very low IMO, 0.003%.

    Spoils

    - mark in both boxes
    - Not embossed (quite a few of those in Galway in one box thanks to someone in the forgetting to do it)
    - Identifying marks - something that could be traced back to an individual voter. The reason for this is to prevent people selling their vote.

    Stuff that's fine

    A clear mark in any one box, or over the writing next to the box
    The words yes or no in their corresponding box

    Saw very few spoils on Saturday in Galway, and most of them were unintentional. People took their vote very seriously.


  • #35
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Das Kitty wrote: »
    The words yes or no in their corresponding box

    So what you're saying is that we shouldn't be writing "No" in the "Yes" box to vote "No" or "Yes" in the "No" box to vote "Yes"?




    :pac:


  • #36
    Das Kitty
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    FreudianSlippers wrote: »
    So what you're saying is that we shouldn't be writing "No" in the "Yes" box to vote "No" or "Yes" in the "No" box to vote "Yes"?




    :pac:

    :D You can but it'll be flung into the doubtful box!


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  • #37
    pleas advice
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    "Only who can prevent forest fires? You pressed 'you' referring to me. That is incorrect. The correct answer is 'you' ..."


  • #38
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    If the intent is clear, the vote is generally counted.

    Absolutely correct.

    If there was a mark in 2 boxes it wouldn't be clear in the case of a referdum.
    If it's not preferred with the official stamp it's also invalid.

    I've often seen the case of a 1,2 and 3,3 for example
    It would probably be allowed for the 2nd preference but as the 3 wouldn't be clear it would be invalidated at that point.


  • #39
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Mesenger1 wrote: »
    May I just say, due to the vote transference in place in this country - unless you really want a particular candidate to receive a vote DO NOT NOT NOT NOT PUT ANY NUMBER IN THEIR BOX -your number 5 or 8 or 16 can have the potential to become their number 1 - only give a number to a candidate if you really want them to have a vote!! Dont give them a number unless you really want them to have one!!

    This is not a real concern - if this candidate you hate gets your vote, it is because everyone you ranked higher is already elected or eliminated. Your preference cannot help this candidate beat anyone you prefer.

    It can only help them vs. the other people you rank even lower or don't rank at all, if any.


  • #40
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,046 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    This is not a real concern - if this candidate you hate gets your vote, it is because everyone you ranked higher is already elected or eliminated. Your preference cannot help this candidate beat anyone you prefer.

    It can only help them vs. the other people you rank even lower or don't rank at all, if any.
    Well, to pick nits, in a highly marginal case your last preference can help a candidate more than giving him no preference would have.


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