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Irelands most likely Olympic 2012 Medals

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Can't see any qualifiers for the BMX either coming from the world rankings. Perhaps they have a chance at the world championships where the 3 best nations outside of the qualifying positions in the world rankings will book their tickets to London.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Agreed.

    And thanks.

    What's the story with Caroline Ryan do you know?

    Has anyone heard talk of any of the women's cycling team pursuit trio, who didn't qualify, attempting to switch back to rowing 11th hour for London? I don't see their names on selection sheets.

    http://www.rowingireland.com/team-selection/

    http://www.rowingireland.com/news/ (February assessments)

    This may answer some of your questions, Sinead Jennings has switched back to rowing in a last-gasp attempt of finally making an Olympic team:

    http://www.donegaldaily.com/2011/11/25/could-sinead-make-olympics-back-in-the-boat/

    Can't find any news on Caroline Ryan though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Irish gymanst, soon-to-be Olympian, Kieran Behan has been deservedly awarded a E20,000 grant to help prepare for the Olympics. Hopefully this season will prove to be a platform for even greater things for both himself and indeed Irish gymnastics.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/other/2012/0116/behank.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Bella mamma


    Dan man wrote: »
    This may answer some of your questions, Sinead Jennings has switched back to rowing in a last-gasp attempt of finally making an Olympic team:

    http://www.donegaldaily.com/2011/11/25/could-sinead-make-olympics-back-in-the-boat/

    Can't find any news on Caroline Ryan though.

    Thanks. Assumed it was new news and searched January. Must not have come to fruition thou, as the rowing selection link appears up to date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Thanks. Assumed it was new news and searched January. Must not have come to fruition thou, as the rowing selection link appears up to date.

    Yeah, and it would have been asking an awful lot to make the necessary smooth transition back to rowing within such a short time frame.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭FitzjamesHorse


    Boxing
    Following the the excellent summary by Dodge, a few days ago, I can add the following.
    49kg ......Paddy Barnes is ranked 7th in World and five of the six ranked above him are qualified. With five places available, his chances must be good.
    64kg...........Moylette is ranked 8th but all seven ranked above him are thru. One place and one invitation open

    81kg.............Ward/Egan. Ward is ranked third. Four of the top six are thru. Three places and invitation available.

    Those boxers stand a decent chance
    60kg .........David Joyce doersnt seemed to be ranked. Four places plus invite.
    91kg........Any other boxer might have difficulty. (1plus 1 place)
    91kg plus......C Sheehan difficult for him
    69kg.....Again R Sheehan doesnt seem ranked.

    What exactly is the position with the WSB boxers? Are they available. I know they are eligible but are their performances not ranked.

    I see at least three qualifiers.
    91kg.........


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    The places allocated to the WSB was for the 2011 finals.

    The rankings are a little skewed too. We tend to be higher ranked than some countries as our boxers are active on the international scene

    David Joyce isn't ranked now, but was 7th seed ahead of the world championships in the 60kg division. Eric Donovan is also the 6th highest ranked European not already qualified. With 4 places, either one could grab a spot

    Barnes at 49kg, Moylette at 64kg and Ward at 81kg are all the top ranked Europeans that haven't qualified. If the qualifying tournament is seeded, that would be a huge help.

    Moylette, despite being European Champion may not even make the team as Ross Hickey is also a very accomlished performer. I think Moylette can medal if he qualifies, but with only one spot up for grabs its going to be very difficult


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,381 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Beasty and Dan Man - RTE and Irish Cycling are reporting him as 8th overall (well done Martyn). Cycling Ireland and The UCI website aren't updated. BTW, the calculation of cycling points isn't my 'chosen subject'!

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/cycling/2012/0115/irvinem.html

    http://www.irishcycling.com/publish/news/art_6023.shtml
    Rankings are now updated on UCI Website, and confirmed as Dan and I indicated. Shane Stokes, who wrote the Irish Cycling article, was simply looking at it from the perspective of Ireland trailing Poland, and did not pick up that they overtook Denmark also

    Full Rankings (with European places in brackets)
    Aus 1,680
    NZ 1,550
    GBR 1,470(1)
    Can 2,200
    Ger 1,170 (2)
    Fra 1,083 (3)
    Col 1,030
    Esp 973 (4)
    Ita 810 (5)
    Kor 810
    Bel 803 (6)
    IRL 705 (7)
    Den 660 (8)
    Pol 580 (9)

    Top 8 European ranking teams (not named individuals) qualify

    Points for World Cup victory 300 for winning, down to 20 for 12th and 10 for turning up
    For World Championships 500 for winning down to 30 for turning up


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Beasty wrote: »
    Shane Stokes, who wrote the Irish Cycling article, was simply looking at it from the perspective of Ireland trailing Poland, and did not pick up that they overtook Denmark also

    In fairness, in Sunday's article for Velonation Shane got it spot on (posted earlier by me)
    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/10890/Irvine-on-course-for-London-Olympic-qualification.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+velonation_pro_cycling+%28Cycling+News+%26+Race+Results+%7C+VeloNation.com%29

    his initial Saturday report focussed on Poland, btu he obviously looked into it a bit more

    Great news either way


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Beasty wrote: »
    Rankings are now updated on UCI Website, and confirmed as Dan and I indicated. Shane Stokes, who wrote the Irish Cycling article, was simply looking at it from the perspective of Ireland trailing Poland, and did not pick up that they overtook Denmark also

    Full Rankings (with European places in brackets)
    Aus 1,680
    NZ 1,550
    GBR 1,470(1)
    Can 2,200
    Ger 1,170 (2)
    Fra 1,083 (3)
    Col 1,030
    Esp 973 (4)
    Ita 810 (5)
    Kor 810
    Bel 803 (6)
    IRL 705 (7)
    Den 660 (8)
    Pol 580 (9)

    Top 8 European ranking teams (not named individuals) qualify

    Points for World Cup victory 300 for winning, down to 20 for 12th and 10 for turning up
    For World Championships 500 for winning down to 30 for turning up

    Just a comment on the Olympic qualification for the Omnium, isn't it bizarre that the Americas continental region (North,Central and South America) will qualify 6 riders for the event, and when you look at the rankings you have to wonder why they are given such a generous portion of the quota positions. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand that there needs to be a quota of riders from each continent and I even endorse this stance, however it seems as though 6 riders from the Americas is way too generous. 5 from Asia also might be a little on the generous side also (perhaps 3/4 would have been fairer). While New Zealand and Australia deservedly warrant quota positions based on the rankings, I find it difficult to accept that Oceania be awarded 2 spots as it makes Australia and New Zealand a shoe-in for the quota positions.
    My alternative would be to certainly have continental quotas, say Europe (7), Americas (4), Asia (3), Oceania (1) , Africa (1), leaving a healthy 6 remaining positions to be filled up by those who deserve an Olympic spot based on the world rankings.
    In any case, the current qualifying system, whilst a bit of a hindrance for Martyn Irvine at the minute, will actually make his chances of a decent finish at the Olympics somewhat easier.


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,381 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Dan man wrote: »
    Just a comment on the Olympic qualification for the Omnium, isn't it bizarre that the Americas continental region (North,Central and South America) will qualify 6 riders for the event, and when you look at the rankings you have to wonder why they are given such a generous portion of the quota positions. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand that there needs to be a quota of riders from each continent and I even endorse this stance, however it seems as though 6 riders from the Americas is way too generous. 5 from Asia also might be a little on the generous side also (perhaps 3/4 would have been fairer). While New Zealand and Australia deservedly warrant quota positions based on the rankings, I find it difficult to accept that Oceania be awarded 2 spots as it makes Australia and New Zealand a shoe-in for the quota positions.
    My alternative would be to certainly have continental quotas, say Europe (7), Americas (4), Asia (3), Oceania (1) , Africa (1), leaving a healthy 6 remaining positions to be filled up by those who deserve an Olympic spot based on the world rankings.
    I guess it's a bit like World Cup soccer - they (presumably the UCI) are looking at ways of expanding the sport into areas where it is not so popular. The limitation of 12 track events I guess means that the cycling authorities are really looking to use the Olympics to showpiece this aspect of the sport.

    Track cycling is a bit of an odd one though, as there are lots of countries with very little in the way of decent facilities
    Dan man wrote: »
    In any case, the current qualifying system, whilst a bit of a hindrance for Martyn Irvine at the minute, will actually make his chances of a decent finish at the Olympics somewhat easier.
    A very good point - due to the geographic allocations for qualification and the fact that each country can only send one rider, Martyn suddenly starts looking like a possible medal contender. He is very good at the TT and pursuit, and there's a bit of a lottery to the Scratch, Elimination and points races - if he can get it right in those 3 events he will have a pretty good chance.

    He's now up to 5th place in the World rankings (assisted by the fact that a lot of countries don't seem to have settled on a single rider for the event, a luxury Ireland really doesn't have, although I guess David O'Loughlin could look to step in if Martyn gets injured)


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,381 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Dodge wrote: »
    In fairness, in Sunday's article for Velonation Shane got it spot on (posted earlier by me)
    http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/10890/Irvine-on-course-for-London-Olympic-qualification.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+velonation_pro_cycling+%28Cycling+News+%26+Race+Results+%7C+VeloNation.com%29

    his initial Saturday report focussed on Poland, btu he obviously looked into it a bit more
    ... I suspect he'd been catching up via Boards;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Bella mamma


    Beasty wrote: »
    Rankings are now updated on UCI Website, and confirmed as Dan and I indicated. Shane Stokes, who wrote the Irish Cycling article, was simply looking at it from the perspective of Ireland trailing Poland, and did not pick up that they overtook Denmark also

    Full Rankings (with European places in brackets)
    Aus 1,680
    NZ 1,550
    GBR 1,470(1)
    Can 2,200
    Ger 1,170 (2)
    Fra 1,083 (3)
    Col 1,030
    Esp 973 (4)
    Ita 810 (5)
    Kor 810
    Bel 803 (6)
    IRL 705 (7)
    Den 660 (8)
    Pol 580 (9)

    Top 8 European ranking teams (not named individuals) qualify

    Points for World Cup victory 300 for winning, down to 20 for 12th and 10 for turning up
    For World Championships 500 for winning down to 30 for turning up

    Damn. And I thought RTE Sport could do no wrong, http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75544944

    Re the continental quotas, wasn't there a change, in essence, so Team GB wouldn't sweep-the-boards??


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,381 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Re the continental quotas, wasn't there a change, in essence, so Team GB wouldn't sweep-the-boards??
    The change was to equalise the number of men's and women's events at 6 each, with only one competitor per nation per event. That certainly reduces GB's overall medal chances, as they got 2 in some of the individual events in Beijing. They will still be there or thereabouts in each of the 12 events though, as the entire focus of their track team since Beijing has been London 2012


  • Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Bella mamma


    Beasty wrote: »
    The change was to equalise the number of men's and women's events at 6 each, with only one competitor per nation per event. That certainly reduces GB's overall medal chances, as they got 2 in some of the individual events in Beijing. They will still be there or thereabouts in each of the 12 events though, as the entire focus of their track team since Beijing has been London 2012

    Tnks. I had read an article similar to this prior, but couldn't recall the specifics, except the point had been that (some) change since Bejing was targeted at reducing British (medal) dominance on the track.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/events-tournaments/london-olympics/Cycling-British-track-boss-miffed-over-Olympic-test-event/articleshow/10619514.cms


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Here is a useful table with Irish athletes that can be updated as the season progresses.
    Athletes in bold have achieved the A qualifying standard.
    Athletes in red have achieved the B qualifying standard.
    (A) = A standard
    (B) = B standard
    (B*)= B standard, but A standard has been achieved by another athlete in that event.


    MEN:ATHLETE|EVENT|OLYMPIC STANDARDS|2012 SEASON BEST|2011 S.B.|PERSONAL BEST|
    Jason Smyth|100m|A=10.18secs;B=10.24secs||10.22secs (B)|10.22secs|
    Jason Smyth|200m|A=20.55secs;B=20.65secs||20.94secs|20.94secs|
    Paul Hession|200m|A=20.55secs;B=20.65secs||20.51secs (A)|20.30secs|
    Steven Colvert|200m|A=20.55secs;B=20.65secs||20.76secs|20.76secs|
    David Gillick|400m|A=45.30secs;B=45.90secs||46.64secs (injured)|44.77secs|
    Brian Gregan|400m|A=45.30secs;B=45.90secs||45.96secs|45.96secs|
    Thomas Chamney|800m|A=1:45.60mins;B=1:46.30mins||injured|1:45.41mins|
    Paul Robinson|800m|A=1:45.60mins;B=1:46.30mins||1:47.31mins|1:47.31mins|
    Mark English|800m|A=1:45.60mins;B=1:46.30mins||1:47.09mins|1:47.09mins|
    David McCarthy(1983)|800m|A=1:45.60mins;B=1:46.30mins||1:46.62mins|1:46.62mins|
    Darren McBrearty|800m|A=1:45.60mins;B=1:46.30mins||1:47.79mins|1:47.79mins|
    Dave Campbell|800m|A=1:45.60mins;B=1:46.30mins||1:51.13mins (injured)|1:45.59mins|
    Ciaran O'Lionaird|1,500m|A=3:35.50mins;B=3:38.00mins||3:34.46mins (A)|3:34.46mins|
    Thomas Chamney|1,500m|A=3:35.50mins;B=3:38.00mins||injured|3:36.83mins|
    Rory Chesser|1,500m|A=3:35.50mins;B=3:38.00mins||3:42.94mins|3:40.08mins|
    Paul Robinson|1,500m|A=3:35.50mins;B=3:38.00mins||3:42.29mins|3:42.29mins|
    John Travers|1,500m|A=3:35.50mins;B=3:38.00mins||3:42.07mins|3:42.07mins|
    Darren McBrearty|1,500m|A=3:35.50mins;B=3:38.00mins||3:42.68mins|3:42.68mins|
    Dave Campbell|1,500m|A=3:35.50mins;B=3:38.00mins||injured|3:39.18mins|
    Alistair Cragg|5,000m|A=13:20.00mins;B=13:27.00mins||13:03.53mins (A)|13:03.53mins|
    Mark Christie|5,000m|A=13:20.00mins;B=13:27.00mins||13:28.21mins|13:28.21mins|
    Mark Kenneally|Marathon|A=2:15:00hrs;B=2:18:00hrs||2:13:55hrs(A)|2:13:55hrs|
    Sean Connolly|Marathon|A=2:15:00hrs;B=2:18:00hrs||2:17:23hrs (B*)|2:17:23hrs|
    Thomas Fraser|Marathon|A=2:15:00hrs;B=2:18:00hrs||2:19:42hrs|2:19:42mins|
    Thomas Barr|400m Hurdles|A=49.50secs;B=49.80secs||50.06secs|50.06secs|
    Robert Heffernan|20km Walk|A=1:22:30hrs;B=1:24:30hrs||1:20:54hrs(A)|1:19:22hrs|
    Robert Heffernan|50km Walk|A=3:59:00hrs;B=4:09:00hrs||3:49:30hrs(A)|3:45:30hrs|
    Brendan Boyce|50km Walk|A=3:59:00hrs;B=4:09:00hrs||3:57:58hrs (A)|3:57:58hrs|
    Colin Griffin|50km Walk|A=3:59:00hrs;B=4:09:00hrs||no time recorded|3:51:32mins|
    Michael Doyle|50km Walk|A=3:59:00hrs;B=4:09:00hrs||no time recorded|no time recorded|
    Jamie Costin|50km Walk|A=3:59:00hrs;B=4:09:00hrs||no time recorded|3:50:51hrs|



    WOMEN:ATHLETE|EVENT|OLYMPIC STANDARDS|2012 SEASON BEST|2011 S.B.|PERSONAL BEST|
    Ailish McSweeney|100m|A=11.29secs;B=11.38secs||11.89secs (injured)|11.40secs|
    Amy Foster|100m|A=11.29secs;B=11.38secs||11.49secs|11.49secs|
    Amy Foster|200m|A=23.10secs;B=23.30secs||23.53secs|23.53secs|
    Niamh Whelan|200m|A=23.10secs;B=23.30secs||23.87secs|23.30secs|
    Joanne Cuddihy|400m|A=51.55secs;B=52.35secs||51.82secs (B)|50.73secs|
    Ciara Mageean|800m|A=1:59.90mins;B=2:01.30mins||2:02.31mins (mixed race, not recognised by IAAF)|2:02.31mins (mixed race)|
    Ciara Mageean|1,500m|A=4:06.00mins;B=4:08.90mins||4:07.45mins (B)|4:07.45mins|
    Fionnuala Britton|5,000m|A=15:20.00mins;B=15:30.00mins||15:21.45mins (mixed race, not recognised by IAAF)|15:21.45mins (mixed race)|
    Mary Cullen|5,000m|A=15:20.00mins;B=15:30.00mins||injured|15:19.04mins|
    Fionnuala Britton|10,000m|A=31:45.00mins;B=32:10.00mins||no time recorded|no time recorded|
    Mary Cullen|10,000m|A=31:45.00mins;B=32:10.00mins||33:02.74mins|32:21.42mins|
    Linda Byrne|Marathon|A=2:37:00hrs;B=2:43:00hrs||2:36:20hrs (A)|2:36:20hrs|
    Ava Hutchinson|Marathon|A=2:37:00hrs;B=2:43:00hrs|2:35:33hrs (A)|2:42:48hrs|2:35:33hrs|
    Maria McCambridge|Marathon|A=2:37:00hrs;B=2:43:00hrs||2:40:26hrs (B*)|2:35:29hrs|
    Gladys Ganiel-O'Neill|Marathon|A=2:37:00hrs;B=2:43:00hrs|2:40:56hrs (B*)|2:41:22hrs(B*)|2:40:56hrs|
    Catriona Jennings|Marathon|A=2:37:00hrs;B=2:43:00hrs||2:43:08hrs|2:43:08hrs|
    Fionnuala Britton|3,000m Steeple Chase|A=9:43.00min;B=9:48.00mins||9:37.60mins (A)|9:37.60mins|
    Stephanie Reilly|3,000m Steeple Chase|A=9:43.00min;B=9:48.00mins||9:42.91mins (A)|9:42.91mins|
    Roisin McGettigan|3,000m Steeple Chase|A=9:43.00min;B=9:48.00mins||no time recorded|9:28.29mins|
    Derval O'Rourke|100m Hurdles|A=12.96secs;B=13.15secs||12.84secs (A)|12.65secs|
    Jessie Barr|400m Hurdles|A=55.50secs;B=56.65secs||56.62secs (B)|56.62secs|
    Deirdre Ryan|High Jump|A=1.95m;B=1.92m||1.95m (A)|1.95m|
    Tori Pena|Pole Vault|A=4.50m;B=4.40m||4.40m (B)|4.40m|
    Kelly Proper|Long Jump|A=6.75m;B=6.65m||6.45m(indoor)|6.62m (indoor)|
    Olive Loughnane|20km Walk|A=1:33:30hrs;B=1:38:00hrs||1:31:55hrs (A)|1:27:45hrs|
    Laura Reynolds|20km Walk|A=1:33:30hrs;B=1:38:00hrs||1:35:34hrs (B)|1:35:34hrs|


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭FitzjamesHorse


    Beasty wrote: »
    Rankings are now updated on UCI Website, and confirmed as Dan and I indicated. Shane Stokes, who wrote the Irish Cycling article, was simply looking at it from the perspective of Ireland trailing Poland, and did not pick up that they overtook Denmark also

    Full Rankings (with European places in brackets)
    Aus 1,680
    NZ 1,550
    GBR 1,470(1)
    Can 2,200
    Ger 1,170 (2)
    Fra 1,083 (3)
    Col 1,030
    Esp 973 (4)
    Ita 810 (5)
    Kor 810
    Bel 803 (6)
    IRL 705 (7)
    Den 660 (8)
    Pol 580 (9)

    Top 8 European ranking teams (not named individuals) qualify

    Points for World Cup victory 300 for winning, down to 20 for 12th and 10 for turning up
    For World Championships 500 for winning down to 30 for turning up

    The British are in the Top 8...but do they not qualify as Hosts anyway?
    Thus making another place available.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    The British are in the Top 8...but do they not qualify as Hosts anyway?
    Thus making another place available.

    Unfortunately no, there is no allocation for the host country in track cycling as indeed there are no invitational places (although the U.C.I. have reserved the right to do so in exceptional cases).


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    To add to Dan's list, here's some PBs for athletes that would get them the A or B standard

    400m - Gillick - 44.77 (a)
    800m - Chamney - 1.45.41 (a)
    1,500m - Chamney - 3.36.83 (b*)
    50k Walk - Jamie Costin - 3.50.51 (a)


    100m - McSweeney - 11.40 (just 0.02 away from B standard)
    400m - Cuddihy - 50.73 (a)
    5,000m - Cullen - 15.18.34 (a)
    3,000mSC - McGettigan - 9.28.2 (a)
    400mH - Michelle Carey - 56.19 (b)
    Long Jump - Kelly Proper - 6.60 (just 5cm away from B )

    Others that may improve include
    Jason Harvey in the 400m H (current PB of 50.65)
    Ben Reynolds in the 110m H (current PB of 13.75 - standards are 13.52 (a), 13.60 (b)),
    Zoe Browne in the pole vault (Current PB of 4.20)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Dodge wrote: »
    To add to Dan's list, here's some PBs for athletes that would get them the A or B standard

    400m - Gillick - 44.77 (a)
    800m - Chamney - 1.45.41 (a)
    1,500m - Chamney - 3.36.83 (b*)
    50k Walk - Jamie Costin - 3.50.51 (a)


    100m - McSweeney - 11.40 (just 0.02 away from B standard)
    400m - Cuddihy - 50.73 (a)
    5,000m - Cullen - 15.18.34 (a)
    3,000mSC - McGettigan - 9.28.2 (a)
    400mH - Michelle Carey - 56.19 (b)
    Long Jump - Kelly Proper - 6.60 (just 5cm away from B )

    Others that may improve include
    Jason Harvey in the 400m H (current PB of 50.65)
    Ben Reynolds in the 110m H (current PB of 13.75 - standards are 13.52 (a), 13.60 (b)),
    Zoe Browne in the pole vault (Current PB of 4.20)

    Yes, P.B.s are important to look at to see if an athlete is capable of making the standards. For example, anyone looking at David Gillick's S.B. from 2011 might think he's a no-hoper, but of course, we know that he is well-capable of running the A-standard.
    Dodge, feel free to edit my table whenever you wish to include any info. or athletes you think should be on the list. Just click on quote and you should be able to edit the table.
    Just a note on Ben Reynolds, he doesn't compete for Ireland. He is from Northern Ireland and choses to compete for G.B. so no point putting him onto the list. Also, Michelle Carey is now concentrating on the 400m flat in order to bolster her chances of competing in the relay at the Olympics.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Didn't realise that about Reynolds or Carey. Relay team makes sense too


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    I've added a column on the table for P.B.s to be listed, i'll get to filling this up ASAP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Here is a table with swimmers along with the Olympic qualifying standards and the swimmer's best times in the qualifying period.
    Note:
    Swimmers in bold have achieved the Olympic qualifying standard and are elligible to take part in the Olympics.
    The Olympic Invitation time is a minimum time needed for a swimmer to be invited to take part in the Games.
    Irish swimmers must achieve the Olympic qualifying standard, but those swimmers who have achieved the qualifying standard in an event can also enter other events in which they have only achieved the Olympic invitation time.
    In essence, the Olympic qualifying time and the Olympic invitation time act in a similar way to the A and the B qualifying standards process used in athletics.

    MEN:

    SWIMMER|EVENT|OLYMPIC QUALIFYING TIME|OLYMPIC INVITATION TIME|BEST SWIM TIME 2011/12|
    Barry Murphy|50m Freestyle|22.11secs|22.88secs|22.89secs|
    Ryan Harrison|200m Freestyle|1:47.82mins|1:51.59mins|1:49.18mins|
    Karl Burdis|100m Backstroke|54.40secs|56.30secs|56.50secs|
    Barry Murphy|100m Breastroke|1:00.79mins|1:02.92mins|1:00.77mins (QT)|
    Andrew Bree|100m Breastroke|1:00.79mins|1:02.92mins|1:02.54mins|
    Andrew Bree|200m Breastroke|2:11.74mins|2:16.35mins|2:15.46mins|


    WOMEN:

    SWIMMER|EVENT|OLYMPIC QUALIFYING TIME|OLYMPIC INVITATION TIME|BEST SWIM TIME 2011/12|
    Fiona Doyle|50m Freestyle|25.27secs|26.15secs|26.04secs|
    Fiona Doyle|100m Freestyle|54.57secs|56.48secs|56.75secs|
    Melanie Nocher|200m Freestyle|1:58.33mins|2:02.47mins|2:00.49mins|
    Sycerika McMahon|200m Freestyle|1:58.33mins|2:02.47mins|2:00.61mins|
    Clare Dawson|200m Freestyle|1:58.33mins|2:02.47mins|2:02.43mins|
    Grainne Murphy|400m Freestyle|4:09.35mins|4:18.07mins|4:13.61mins|
    Sycerika McMahon|400m Freestyle|4:09.35mins|4:18.07mins|4:13.85mins|
    Clare Dawson|400m Freestyle|4:09.35mins|4:18.07mins|4:16.16mins|
    Grainne Murphy|800m Freestyle|8:33.84mins|8:51.82mins|8:31.14mins (QT)|
    Nuala Murphy|800m Freestyle|8:33.84mins|8:51.82mins|8:50.15mins|
    Aisling Cooney|100m Backstroke|1:00.82mins|1:02.95mins|1:01.76mins|
    Melanie Nocher|100m Backstroke|1:00.82mins|1:02.95mins|1:02.39mins|
    Melanie Nocher|200m Backstroke|2:10.84mins|2:15.42mins|2:12.02mins|
    Sycerika McMahon|100m Breastroke|1:08.49mins|1:10.89mins|1:09.24mins|
    Fiona Doyle|100m Breastroke|1:08.49mins|1:10.89mins|1:09.65mins|
    Fiona Doyle|200m Breastroke|2:26.89mins|2:32.03mins|2:31.05mins|
    Shani Stallard|200m Breastroke|2:26.89mins|2:32.03mins|2:31.20mins|
    Grainne Murphy|200m Individual Medley|2:13.36mins|2:18.03mins|2:15.82mins|
    Sycerika McMahon|200m Individual Medley|2:13.36mins|2:18.03mins|2:17.09mins|
    Grainne Murphy|400m Individual Medley|4:41.75mins|4:51.75mins|4:44.61mins|
    Sycerika McMahon|400m Individual Medley|4:41.75mins|4:51.75mins|4:49.87mins|


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭FitzjamesHorse


    Great stuff here.
    Ryan Harrison probably has a good chance.
    Andrew Bree is handicapped by Barry Murphy having A standard in one of his events.
    Of the Women.
    Sycherika McMahon and Melanie Nocher look to have a decent chance,.
    Grainne Murphy looks borderline.
    But for any others to make it they would need to be swimming out of their skin in the early part of the season.
    Relay?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 AnotherLapMan


    Dodge wrote: »
    Didn't realise that about Reynolds or Carey. Relay team makes sense too

    The question mark relating to Ben Reynolds, well he has changed to Athletics Ireland. He competed for UKA u20s so he is able to change over. He also hasn't competed for UK in over 2 years. So we welcome this fast fast hurdler to our Irish ranks. Good news all round


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    The question mark relating to Ben Reynolds, well he has changed to Athletics Ireland. He competed for UKA u20s so he is able to change over. He also hasn't competed for UK in over 2 years. So we welcome this fast fast hurdler to our Irish ranks. Good news all round

    Thanks for that, and it is good news for us I suppose. He looks like a promising talent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 AnotherLapMan


    Dan man wrote: »
    Thanks for that, and it is good news for us I suppose. He looks like a promising talent.

    No problem, yes he has started off with a sharp 60m of 6.95 already. Will be good to have youth in the 110mh with promise as well. He is a determined chap and well capable of challenging for a spot in the Olympics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    Great stuff here.
    Ryan Harrison probably has a good chance.
    Andrew Bree is handicapped by Barry Murphy having A standard in one of his events.
    Of the Women.
    Sycherika McMahon and Melanie Nocher look to have a decent chance,.
    Grainne Murphy looks borderline.
    But for any others to make it they would need to be swimming out of their skin in the early part of the season.
    Relay?

    Grainne has already made the 800m time so she is London bound. Our women's 4x200m relay squad look a very decent bet for qualification, just missed out at the world championships where top 12 teams secured qualification. Fast time this year should see them qualify as one of the 16 teams on the starting blocks for the Olympics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    No problem, yes he has started off with a sharp 60m of 6.95 already. Will be good to have youth in the 110mh with promise as well. He is a determined chap and well capable of challenging for a spot in the Olympics.

    Thanks for the update, always good to have some input about our athletes. If he doesn't make London, there's always the Europeans in Helsinki in June.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dan man


    I wonder how much this issue has to do with Ben Reynolds switching to the Irish team. The article also goes to show his talent also.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/athletics/14066883.stm


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