Triple H Named The Most Overrated Wrestler Of All-time

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Source: Rajah.com

UGO.com has posted a list counting down the top 25 most overrated wrestlers of all-time. The ranking is topped by 13-time world champion Triple H, who was named Most Overrated in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards on three consecutive occasions (2002-2004), and again in 2009.

Regarding the self-proclaimed "King of Kings", UGO.com wrote: "For too long, Triple H has received a free pass from internet wrestling fans, but we say, "No more!" Sure, he used to be great, but that was before he destroyed his body and moved on to destroying the careers of younger wrestlers. Folks these days like to say that "The King of Kings" makes people into stars, but wrestlers tend to either succeed despite the terrible, emasculating beatings he gives them or just disappear back into the midcard. What's worse is that he does it all with the same four boring, mechanical moves - a fact which goes strangely unnoticed by the world's Cena-bashers, who tend to love "The Game." If Triple H was as great as people say he is, the past 13 years of constant pushes shouldn't have just turned him into another Rock or "Stone Cold," it should have gotten him elected King of the Universe.

"And The Chaperone looks atrocious."

The complete ranking is as follows:
25. Diesel
24. Arn Anderson
23. Alberto Del Rio
22. Jerry Lynn
21. Shelton Benjamin
20. Verne Gagne
19. Jeff Jarrett
18. Sabu
17. Finlay
16. Christopher Daniels
15. Mr. Anderson
14. William Regal
13. Indy Geeks (Mike Quackenbush pictured)
12. Randy Orton
11. Gorgeous George
10. Scott Hall
9. Dean Malenko
8. Owen Hart
7. Christian
6. Curt Hennig
5. Miss Elizabeth
4. Jerry "The King" Lawler
3. Giant Baba
2. Hulk Hogan
1. Triple H

Gerard.C

Alberto Del Rio is more over rated, of all time, than Diesel? Wha?

And how is Mr. Perfect in the top 10?

Agreed with HHH though

Bounty Hunter

since when did HHH get a free ride from the IWC? okay its died down since he has been away but we had a HHH hate thread on here a while back

some odd choices in ther imo, but then again i guess thats why they are in there as in id say that Edge is overated and that Mr Perfect (no.6 on this list) was better than him but then again am I overating Hennig because of his death, afterall he didnt make main event during his career.

Not going to run down edge, I respect him, just never found myself as a fan of main event edge

SlickRic

in 2000, HHH was pretty much untouchable.

in an era of Austin and Rock at their peak, he was the detested heel that was needed to make it all click...and he could put a great match together.

over the last 5 years, he's been for the most part stale as fúck, and he doesn't deserve the amount of reigns he has.

but for 2/3 years, he was utterly brilliant.

and for the majority of his career he has been very good-to-brilliant.

SlickRic

oh, and any overrated list begins with Edge and ends in RVD IMO.

JP Liz V1

9. Dean Malenko
8. Owen Hart
7. Christian
6. Curt Hennig
5. Miss Elizabeth

WTF :mad: they shouldnt be on the list

Brock Lesnar should be though imo

drayme

Deliberately contraversal list is contraversal. :eek:

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JP Liz V1 wrote: »

WTF :mad:

My Thoughts exactly.
And Shelton?..... Maybe didn't get a big enough push to hit Main event(Apart from beating HHH that one time)

Bounty Hunter

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

WTF :mad:

those 3 in particular imo seem to point to a list made by number crunchers, i.e because someone like Perfect/Malenko never won a world title/ drew x amount of cash for a fed etc it seems they must be overated by the IWC considering they are some of the biggest fan favourites.

MitchKoobski

A website like http://www.ugo.com/ does a list on overrated wrestlers?

I call bullsheet. William Regal and Finlay overrated? Come on ffs.

D.Q

I would disagree with a lot of that list to be honest, namely Regal, Christian and Owen Hart, who if anything I would say are/were criminally underrated. Also hhh is not that overrated, he has great charisma and character, he just has "it". Totally agree with slick's post above, he was the perfect foil to Rock & Austin, and growing up, I liked them a lot more because of my hatred for HHH.

But theres no point in going into it(he says, after doing exactly that). I could compile a list right now, it doesn't make it any more or less valid than the one above. The list is just 25 rated wrestlers to be fair.

CMpunked

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

WTF :mad: they shouldnt be on the list

Brock Lesnar should be though imo

Lol, I didn't even look at the name and I knew it was you liz. :P

Who the hell are UGO anyway? Isn't it just some entertainment news website? They're not even an iwc site!
HHH over-rated? Maybe. But he was superhot during the attitude era and put on some astounding matches. And a lot of them were before he was in stephs pants. Should he be no.1? maybe.. But its hard to define as this list is terrible.
I would like to hear how he came up with some of the other names, ms Elizabeth for example.

Bounty Hunter

drayme wrote: »

Deliberately contraversal list is contraversal. :eek:

hmm this post gives me an idea, someone else can run with this one if they are interested in it:

I considerd my American top 30 list to be a success on here, as I did the Irish top 25 (atleast until the delay with the top 6). So whats to stop us having ourt own non deliberatleyl controversial lists on boards. Maybe similar to the old superstar of the week threads we could have a bi-weekly boards.ie PW poll thread with titles such as most overated wrestler of all time. Then like with the SOTW threads id add them all to the hot links sticky together so we eventually have a lil collection of em.

drayme

MitchKoobski wrote: »

A website like http://www.ugo.com/ does a list on overrated wrestlers?

I call bullsheet. William Regal and Finlay overrated? Come on ffs.

Direct link:
http://www.ugo.com/sports/diesel

It is overrated by the internet APPARENTLY

drayme

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

hmm this post gives me an idea, someone else can run with this one if they are interested in it:

I considerd my American top 30 list to be a success on here, as I did the Irish top 25 (atleast until the delay with the top 6). So whats to stop us having ourt own non deliberatleyl controversial lists on boards. Maybe similar to the old superstar of the week threads we could have a bi-weekly boards.ie PW poll thread with titles such as most overated wrestler of all time. Then like with the SOTW threads id add them all to the hot links sticky together so we eventually have a lil collection of em.

Nah contrarian lists are a lot more fun:

WKO 2009 list as the 2010 list isnt out yet:

100. Atsushi Aoki
99. Minoru Suzuki
98. Hirooki Goto
97. Pequeño Damien 666
96. Stuka, Jr.
95. A.J. Styles
94. Masashi Takeda
93. The Miz
92. Mascara Dorada
91. Yoshi Tatsu
90. Tomohiro Ishii
89. El Hijo del Santo
88. Fuerza Guerrera
87. Capitan Muerte
86. Flash Flanagan
85. "Mr. Condor" Romano Garcia
84. Manabu Hara / Suruga
83. Ikuto Hidaka
82. Toro Bill
81. Desmond Wolfe
80. La Sombra
79. Ephesto
78. Pequeño Pierroth
77. Takashi Sasaki
76. "Suicida" Mike Segura
75. Munenori Sawa
74. Cassandro
73. "Marvellous" Mitch Ryder
72. Skayde / Jorge Rivera
71. Mike Knox
70. Jon Moxley
69. Averno
68. Jerry Lawler
67. "Superstar" Bill Dundee
66. Claudio Castagnoli
65. Matt Hardy
64. Oficial AK-47
63. Johnny Saint
62. Oficial Fierro
61. Yuko Miyamoto
60. Genichiro Tenryu
59. Avisman
58. Bull Pain
57. Takashi Sugiura
56. Mitsuharu Misawa
55. Dick Togo
54. Felino
53. The Great Sasuke
52. Oficial 911
51. Ricky Marvin
50. Jeff Hardy
49. Arkangel de la Muerte
48. KENTA
47. Trauma I
46. Toshiaki Kawada
45. Cerebro Negro
44. Takeshi Ono
43. Sami Callahan
42. Chris Hero
41. Shinsuke Nakamura
40. Austin Aries
39. Tamon Honda
38. Necro Butcher
37. Evan Bourne
36. Mark Henry
35. Todd Morton
34. Randy Orton
33. Mike Quakenbush
32. Zatura
31. Jun Akiyama
30. Jack Swagger
29. Virus
28. Chris Jericho
27. Yoshihiro Takayama
26. The Undertaker
25. Valiente
24. Daisuke Ikeda
23. John Cena
22. Blue Panther
21. Koji Kanemoto
20. The Big Show
19. Freelance
18. Yujiro Yamamoto
17. Solar I
16. Trauma II
15. Fujita "Jr." Hayato
14. Goldust
13. Katsumi Usuda
12. Negro Casas
11. Dr. Cerebro
10. Yuki Ishikawa
9. Bryan Danielson
8. C.M. Punk
7. Finlay
6. Alexander Otsuka
5. Black Terry
4. William Regal
3. Negro Navarro
2. Christian
1. Rey Mysterio

gimmick

People are really over rating that list.

It is complete pony to be fair. Then, lists are subjective. If we did an all time list here, Chris Masters would rate highly

But how anyone has decided that Mr Perfect, Regal and Finlay are over rated makes me wonder how, as these are among the 3 most under rated to ever work in Vince land.

CMpunked

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

hmm this post gives me an idea, someone else can run with this one if they are interested in it:

Sounds like a plan. What's the idea, like just have a sotw poll/thread?

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gimmick wrote: »

But how anyone has decided that Mr Perfect, Regal and Finlay are over rated makes me wonder how, as these are among the 3 most under rated to ever work in Vince land.

I never really watched a lot of Finlay before his final WWE days, but I couldn't agree with you more on Perfect and Regal, how they are "overrated" is beyond me, they were brilliant to watch, amazing in-ring competitors and Perfect was fantastic even in his commentary stage.

Bounty Hunter

CMpunked wrote: »

Sounds like a plan. What's the idea, like just have a sotw poll/thread?

well yeah, kinda like I outlined but as I said id probably want someone else to take the helm. Do it at most bi-weekly so people dont get too bored/annoyed of the concept and set a time limit for people to vote on thread or submit PMs like with my American top 30 (as a poll imo would mean at most a top 20 of pre-selected names). after the time limit is up collated the votes and maybe do a lil write up on the higher placed entrants and the more controversial entrants to the list i.e explain why Masters places so highly :pac:

actually after reading the above id say once a month as there is a lot in that but itd be cool to have an archived list of boards.ie top 30s, top 30 tag teams of all time, under/overated of all time, top 30 never to win a world title etc... think the draft has me thinking about stuff like this atm.

drayme

FireballPitcher wrote: »

I never really watched a lot of Finlay before his final WWE days, but I couldn't agree with you more on Perfect and Regal, how they are "overrated" is beyond me, they were brilliant to watch, amazing in-ring competitors and Perfect was fantastic even in his commentary stage.

Mr. Perfect had a relatively short run as a top class worker. Name me a good match he had post 1993.

For Regal's rep how many good or great matches has he had in the past ten years? The matches with Benoit on Velocity and Smackdown but thats about it. His match with Bryan on Raw the other month was vastly over praised all because he was worked in a different style and just because of that people overlooked how sloppy and out of shape Regal was.

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

well yeah, kinda like I outlined but as I said id probably want someone else to take the helm. Do it at most bi-weekly so people dont get too bored/annoyed of the concept and set a time limit for people to vote on thread or submit PMs like with my American top 30 (as a poll imo would mean at most a top 20 of pre-selected names). after the time limit is up collated the votes and maybe do a lil write up on the higher placed entrants and the more controversial entrants to the list i.e explain why Masters places so highly :pac:

actually after reading the above id say once a month as there is a lot in that but itd be cool to have an archived list of boards.ie top 30s, top 30 tag teams of all time, under/overated of all time, top 30 never to win a world title etc... think the draft has me thinking about stuff like this atm.

Why is Masters are joke on here? He was one if not the most consistently good performer on WWE television last year. He has improved immensely.

Bounty Hunter

drayme wrote: »

Why is Masters are joke on here? He was one if not the most consistently good performer on WWE television last year. He has improved immensely.

im not the best to explain it but since i did the :pac: ill say that he is both a in joke of sorts and considerd highly here especially in comparison to other sites, here he atleast gets mentioned which he does deserve. As you say he had been good the past year on WWE Tv unfortunatley the WWE writers dont seem to know how to transfer him from Superstars without returning him to being a peck dancing comedy jobber atm, hope they figue that out though.

GTR63

Do you know who is overrated Lance Storm,I struggle to think of a truly great match he had.He's such a opinion of himself then.I had a good laugh in the Jericho dvd when Jericho was at Smokey Mt with Storm saying they learned promos. Clearly Lance only learned how to stand beside the person doing the promo.

drayme

GTR63 wrote: »

Do you know who is overrated Lance Storm,I struggle to think of a truly great match he had.He's such a opinion of himself then.I had a good laugh in the Jericho dvd when Jericho was at Smokey Mt with Storm saying they learned promos. Clearly Lance only learned how to stand beside the person doing the promo.

His Anarchy Rulz match with Jerry Lynn is pretty great.

But his strikes are god awful, dont get me started on his punches and his dropkick always seemed to miss by miles.

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drayme wrote: »

Why is Masters are joke on here? He was one if not the most consistently good performer on WWE television last year. He has improved immensely.

I've been saying that forever. That guy goes out there every week and has to job to some guy (that he's more talented than) in 2-3 minutes and constantly goes above and beyond to make it a decent match.

In regards to the list, it's total bollocks. He puts Quackenbush and the rest of the "indy geeks" on the list because of their supposed poor attention to ring psychology and yet Triple H, the master of psychology ranks in at number 1.

Ridley

gimmick wrote: »

It is complete pony to be fair. Then, lists are subjective. If we did an all time list here, Chris Masters would rate highly

I don't think Miss Elizabeth would be on our radar or use an umbrella term like "indy geeks".

I think the Triple H ranking would be a fair assessment if it weren't for saying he "has received a free pass from internet wrestling fans." The IWC is where the HHHate comes from.

Personally, I'd have Austin, Flair, Goldberg, Ultimate Warrior and Lance Storm in my listings. *shrug*

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drayme wrote: »

Mr. Perfect had a relatively short run as a top class worker. Name me a good match he had post 1993.

Well thats complete ignorance regarding Perfect. He was injured from 1993 onwards until late 1997. He had a fantastic match with Bret Hart at Uncensored in 1998 or 1999.

He also had a good run after he returned at the Rumble in 2002, until he unfortunately got himself fired, and then unfortunately he died.

Also why post 1993?? His career before that mattered just as much, if not more as he was more active. He had fantastic matches again against Hart in the late 80s and early 90s and if you ever watched his 60 minute Iron Man match against Bockwinkel you'd appreciate his talent.

He was a top class worker for many years, just because he wasn't the World Champion doesnt mean much. Look at HHH who was 10+ times world champ, it means nothing. Its the calibre of his matches and he put on some incredible matches.

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GTR63 wrote: »

Do you know who is overrated Lance Storm,I struggle to think of a truly great match he had.He's such a opinion of himself then.I had a good laugh in the Jericho dvd when Jericho was at Smokey Mt with Storm saying they learned promos. Clearly Lance only learned how to stand beside the person doing the promo.

If I can be serious for a minute..........have to disagree with this
Thought WWE could have used him better than they did. Everyone knew who he was after the Invasion angle(Becoming IC champ in the meantime), and it seemed after that they didn't know what to do with him so he was put with Regal(Granted becoming Tag team champ). Never made it to Mania either, just the warm up match w/ Morley vs RVD and Kane and later that storyline when Austin was commissioner and he was on a loosing streak.

Thought he could have been IC champ a few more times or even kept on the mid-card roster :mad: . . . . . Rant over

Mr.Nice Guy

Hmm, mixed feelings on this. Seriously though I think that list is quite silly. Christian and Owen Hart were underrated wrestlers imo and I think you can count on one hand the amount of matches Miss Elizabeth had so how is she an overrated wrestler? Also Lawler has been fantastic in spite of his age the last few months and I don't think he belongs anywhere there either.

drayme

FireballPitcher wrote: »

Well thats complete ignorance regarding Perfect. He was injured from 1993 onwards until late 1997. He had a fantastic match with Bret Hart at Uncensored in 1998 or 1999.

He also had a good run after he returned at the Rumble in 2002, until he unfortunately got himself fired, and then unfortunately he died.

Also why post 1993?? His career before that mattered just as much, if not more as he was more active. He had fantastic matches again against Hart in the late 80s and early 90s and if you ever watched his 60 minute Iron Man match against Bockwinkel you'd appreciate his talent.

He was a top class worker for many years, just because he wasn't the World Champion doesnt mean much. Look at HHH who was 10+ times world champ, it means nothing. Its the calibre of his matches and he put on some incredible matches.

Fireball discussing stuff like this with you is trouble is what learnt yesterday. Did you actually read my post this time?

Why are you talking about titles here?

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drayme wrote: »

Fireball discussing stuff like this with you is trouble is what learnt yesterday. Did you actually read my post this time?

Why are you talking about titles here?

Ok well you asked for one good match after 1993.

Curt Hennig v Bret Hart in 1997.

Also can I ask why you are asking for matches post-1993 and not pre-1993?

D.Q

Ridley wrote: »

I don't think Miss Elizabeth would be on our radar or use an umbrella term like "indy geeks".

I think the Triple H ranking would be a fair assessment if it weren't for saying he "has received a free pass from internet wrestling fans." The IWC is where the HHHate comes from.

Personally, I'd have Austin, Flair, Goldberg, Ultimate Warrior and Lance Storm in my listings. *shrug*

Seriously? How so? and by who?