Galway GAA discussion thread

Disappointed with the team myself.
Glynn has never had an ominous game with all his contributions usually leading to a yellow/goal/penalty when utilised near goal.
Always found him wasted when moved further out.

No disrespect to the lad but I haven't seen Mannion do a tad in a number of games I've watched to date.
Been at all the games since the Clare league and he's missed far more than he scored.
Puts no pressure on backs clearing ball either, honestly can't fathom what he's done to dislodge players like Hayes who've consistently performed or Glennon who did it in spurts.

I don't think its good for the camp to see a team that had to pull it out of the fire AFTER subs were introduced start the same again.

citykat

pmy.murphy wrote: »

Hopefully i am in the same boat myself

I'd say the Biffos are practising their Dubalin accent. Best of luck tomorrow.

clashoftheash

Yeah I'll second what citykat said and wish Ye the best of luck. Ye damn well deserved that draw on Sunday and regardless of what happens tomorrow I hope Ye carry that with you into whatever game you play next. Slan

citykat

clashoftheash wrote: »

Yeah I'll second what citykat said and wish Ye the best of luck. Ye damn well deserved that draw on Sunday and regardless of what happens tomorrow I hope Ye carry that with you into whatever game you play next. Slan

You are aware he's a KK man?

Diabhal Beag

Everybody posting in this thread seems to be a KK head since this time last week.

dastardly00

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Everybody posting in this thread seems to be a KK head since this time last week.

Hi Diabhal Beag

*waves*

citykat

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Everybody posting in this thread seems to be a KK head since this time last week.

From what I can see we're the only ones posting about hurling. Rest are posting about that eternal bore of football...

citykat

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Everybody posting in this thread seems to be a KK head since this time last week.

This is how the Galway backs are going to feel tomorrow...

gilberto_eire

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Disappointed with the team myself.
Glynn has never had an ominous game with all his contributions usually leading to a yellow/goal/penalty when utilised near goal.
Always found him wasted when moved further out.

No disrespect to the lad but I haven't seen Mannion do a tad in a number of games I've watched to date.
Been at all the games since the Clare league and he's missed far more than he scored.
Puts no pressure on backs clearing ball either, honestly can't fathom what he's done to dislodge players like Hayes who've consistently performed or Glennon who did it in spurts.

I don't think its good for the camp to see a team that had to pull it out of the fire AFTER subs were introduced start the same again.

I'd agree. Mannion started the league well but he has faded in the latter stages of the league and his average/poor form has continued into the championship. He's struggling to hold his place. Glennon hasn't really impressed me any time I've seen him over the past while either and Hayes just doesn't have it in the tank and the management probably figure that its better he make a good contribution for 20-25 minutes at the end.

I suppose management must feel that Johnny Glynn's best impact is from the bench. He made a big impact off the bench in 2012 but there's not much point introducing him if we're 7 or 8 points down with 20 minutes to go tomorrow. I'd agree he's wasted further out. He can cause havoc if used correctly.

Really there is 4 or 5 Galway players who are very lucky to get a start again and who I'd give 20-25 minutes max. to perform tomorrow or I'd take them off. The management in 2012 impressed me at times with their ruthlessness at times. They didn't always get it right but they laid down a marker at least. However, the management were far too indecisive last Sunday and it had a major bearing in why we needed a freak finish to rescue a draw.

Really Galway have to win tomorrow if we are to have any kind of championship. Tipp aren't pulling up trees and are low on confidence but still they aren't far away. They seemed to me to be just letting the Limerick game drift to the finish rather than driving it home and you'd imagine they'll be keen to make amends in the back door. Our record in Thurles is dire and against Tipp isn't too hectic in recent years either.

We got out of jail last Sunday, Galway will have to deliver for the whole game tomorrow. Any more run of scores for KK like last Sunday and we can forget it.

I don't believe this team and management have what it takes to deliver for the full 70+ minutes. We'll probably need 4 or 5 goals to win it which isn't unthinkable but think Kilkenny will win this by 4-6 unfortunately. (reverse jinx I hope;))

Utopia Parkway

gilberto_eire wrote: »

No disrespect to the lad but I haven't seen Mannion do a tad in a number of games I've watched to date.
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He was very good in the league in fairness. Better than Flynn. But Flynn has has 2 better performances in championship.

Flynn seems a bit more aggressive and you need that for championship hurling or you are goosed. You need to be able to fight for your own ball.

Kinda surprised Galway kept the same team. 2 or 3 lads have to be on short notice if they don't perform from the start.

Thought Glynn might start but he seems to create far more chaos when he comes on as a sub rather than play from the throw in.

Galway still up against it. Kilkenny don't often lose replays.

djPSB

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Disappointed with the team myself.
Glynn has never had an ominous game with all his contributions usually leading to a yellow/goal/penalty when utilised near goal.
Always found him wasted when moved further out.

No disrespect to the lad but I haven't seen Mannion do a tad in a number of games I've watched to date.
Been at all the games since the Clare league and he's missed far more than he scored.
Puts no pressure on backs clearing ball either, honestly can't fathom what he's done to dislodge players like Hayes who've consistently performed or Glennon who did it in spurts.

I don't think its good for the camp to see a team that had to pull it out of the fire AFTER subs were introduced start the same again.

Team will change before throw in I'd imagine.

MfMan

djPSB wrote: »

Team will change before throw in I'd imagine.

As would I. Can't see Mannion starting for one. Looking back at replay last night, (Sky+ is a godsend!), David Burke had been getting into it more and more prior to being subbed. Just a hunch that he could play as a 3rd midfielder with just 2 inside. Galway showed character and heart last week, but it doesn't disguise the fact that at least 25% improvement is needed all round.

Mountainlad

cul beag wrote: »

God help you're to be pitied!! That's what's called a bit of banter! Imagine hating a county because you got a bit of slagging years ago. Come on now can you not see how childish /immature that really sounds? For what its worth the Cork city hurling community are the most witty and knowledgeable people I've met when it comes to hurling but head towards the border areas of any rival counties and then you'll see a different story! All part of it. Wouldn't it be worse if you were wearing a Liverpool jersey with Suarez on the back of it!!

Sorry to take this thread off topic, but amprodude has the same story about any fans.

He also said only a few weeks ago that he'd shout for Waterford and Limerick outside of Cork. Full of sh*t.


Won't be able to see today's game with the Laois v Waterford game, no doubt it'll be another entertaining game. Think Galway will come out on top this time, I would think there's more room for improvement.

donnem33

djPSB wrote: »

Team will change before throw in I'd imagine.

i definately agree with this...changes will be made before throw in.

Hulk Hands

Yeah im looking forward to tonight. Post away lads until tomorrow afternoon, then can you kindly all clear out so we can get back to talking about the upcoming Connacht Final

savannahkat

Fair enough Hulk Hands a good visitor knows when it is time to go home.

Redo91

Is tonight's game a sell out?

Stroke Politics

Redo91 wrote: »

Is tonight's game a sell out?

Totally sold AFAIK. 17K capacity in a stadium which has only 3 sides.

Was wondering if it's a draw at full time will there be extra time? I have not been to Tellamore for a while, I knoe it has a lovely new stand, but does it even flood lights?

Diabhal Beag

citykat wrote: »

From what I can see we're the only ones posting about hurling. Rest are posting about that eternal bore of football...

Say what you will about Galway football but it hasn't been boring in a long long time. We almost lost to Waterford FFS.

citykat

Stroke Politics wrote: »

Totally sold AFAIK. 17K capacity in a stadium which has only 3 sides.

Was wondering if it's a draw at full time will there be extra time? I have not been to Tellamore for a while, I knoe it has a lovely new stand, but does it even flood lights?

Extra time in the event of a draw. Bring a torch just in case.

derealbadger

Looks like Tipp next weekend in Thurles so not very hopeful

pmy.murphy

Hard luck on yee tonight lads Joe didnt perform at all and now yee face a tough trip to Thurles next week. Best of luck against Tipp lads and no doubt yee will go out into that one with all guns blazing. Ill be shouting for yee anyway

dastardly00

Galway definitely have the abilty and skill to beat Tipp for sure.Should be a great match.

I thought ye were very undisciplined in the first half. Any time a KK player won the ball in the Galway half they nearly always fouled the KK player.

Galway didn't let the heads drop after the second KK goal, and ye began to really dominate in the last 15 minutes. If Joe had scored a goal from that 21 yard free, then who knows.

I'd be fairly píssed off with Andy Smith's antics during the match if I was from Galway.

MfMan

Forwards simply weren't good enough. Niall Burke not at the races, Joe Cooney didn't hit a ball and is just not good enough at this level, Jonny Glynn showed why he is really a man for off the bench, (very limited once in possession, he spills far too much ball and catches a lot less than many would think he does), JC too subdued. Only Conor Cooney and Flynn to an extent could be pleased with their evening's work. But worse than that, there was no real slickness or interplay about their display. Too many players going for individual scores rather than trying to find a teammate in space or a better position. Too many players not able to win their own ball, make room and take a score.

3-19 may seem like a big score to concede, but the backs in general hurled alright. Their indiscipline was costly in the first half but they all did quite well in the man-to-man battles and none of them was really cleaned. They hit enough ball forward in the second half but they were constantly under pressure because it was coming back down too easily again. Midfield and attack are the problem areas.

Hard to blame the management for the starting line-up they selected as they picked those who showed good form in the drawn match, but they must now show the same form in dropping those mentioned above who haven't done it for too long. Backs are ok. Niall and David Burke, Glynn, Joe Cooney cannot start the next day, they just aren't good enough any more to deserve to. Don't know why Johnny Coen was dropped, unless they wanted a man they could be sure of to make an impact off the bench. Only he and Cathal Mannion made much of an impression when introduced.

Well thats the final straw for me.

Not attending another game until AC's rein is over.

If I want to see a team play clearly beneath their ability I'll dish out some of Irelands old games under Trappatoni.

We are so poor structurally it's embarrassing.

When a long ball is played into our FB line it's 3v3 or 2v2, just asking to pick up yellows and give away goals like that.
And that's exactly how the first goal landed today. Even numbers contesting the high ball and TJ the spare man nips in and has a free reign on goal.
At the other end we're playing it to 2v3 and 1v2s in the oppositions favour.

KK backs catching, clearing and running/short passing balls out of defence all day.
FFS at one point Cillian Buckley managed to solo the ball about 45 yards up the pitch... honestly can't remember seeing a back run as far in a straight line unopposed before.

Was near enough a carbon copy of last week in terms of when we fell out of the game.
Let them pick off a number of scores just after HT but IMO it was more or less settled after 15-20mins when we went from 3 up to 5 down in the space of 10mins.

Coughed up a large amount of ball in the second half when trying to get a goal, KK backs were just compressing the area in front of the goal and then Galway players were trying to give silly passes that weren't on or some other waste of possession.

The 2nd and 3rd KK goals were just terrible..... the 2nd Callanan did well to deny what looked a certain goal. It spilled out to the side of the goal and everybody seemed to stop while it was pulled on off the ground from a tightish angle.... was a bit strange, seemed to me the backs stopped playing after the initial save.
As for the 3rd, TJ ran it straight down the middle from a good 45 yards out. He even managed to bounce it off the ground for another play before rounding Callanan and tapping it in.

Topped off a typical disjointed performance.

I've never been so disillusioned with the hurlers, for once I honestly don't see any way back this year.
Would always have looked to the qualifiers in previous years with optimism, can't see any way back for this team or MGMT.

We have the bulk of a team, we just need to find somebody who can drill them to get the best out of them.
Just look like a team playing Junior with zero work on forming a gameplan or identity.

KK are there for the taking, they struggled their way past us after two games with all those problems listed above.
I think Cork and Clare are both structurally strong, so will give them a better game than we did.

At least the footballers seem to be making some sort of a revival. Though on that note it was disappointing to read that the minors threw away a 5-6 point lead against Mayo to lose by 1.

The White Feather

How many frees did Kilkenny get? It sounded like Galway were very ill disciplined from what I can tell

donnem33

MfMan wrote: »

Forwards simply weren't good enough. Niall Burke not at the races, Joe Cooney didn't hit a ball and is just not good enough at this level, Jonny Glynn showed why he is really a man for off the bench, (very limited once in possession, he spills far too much ball and catches a lot less than many would think he does), JC too subdued. Only Conor Cooney and Flynn to an extent could be pleased with their evening's work. But worse than that, there was no real slickness or interplay about their display. Too many players going for individual scores rather than trying to find a teammate in space or a better position. Too many players not able to win their own ball, make room and take a score.

3-19 may seem like a big score to concede, but the backs in general hurled alright. Their indiscipline was costly in the first half but they all did quite well in the man-to-man battles and none of them was really cleaned. They hit enough ball forward in the second half but they were constantly under pressure because it was coming back down too easily again. Midfield and attack are the problem areas.

Hard to blame the management for the starting line-up they selected as they picked those who showed good form in the drawn match, but they must now show the same form in dropping those mentioned above who haven't done it for too long. Backs are ok. Niall and David Burke, Glynn, Joe Cooney cannot start the next day, they just aren't good enough any more to deserve to. Don't know why Johnny Coen was dropped, unless they wanted a man they could be sure of to make an impact off the bench. Only he and Cathal Mannion made much of an impression when introduced.

Good post! I have never been a fan of joe cooney even when he was a minor. He is too slow for intercounty and rarely if ever plays well.

Judging by the highlights on the news this evening, I thought Johnny Coen was badly caught out for the 3rd goal. He was too easily turned by TJ.

Its all well and good saying to drop David and Niall Burke, Glynn, J Cooney (and i would add A Smyth too - he spends way to much timing giving away frees and acting the hard man, but do we have anyone better to replace them? I don't think so!

Depressing stuff. Really you'd have to question where Galway hurling is going. This team is miles off the level needed to be pushing for the McCarthy Cup. I think 2012 lulled us into a false sense that Galway Hurling wasn't in a bad place, we are well down the pack and we are sinking further and further down the pecking order. The last couple of years at u21 have been dire and the minors last year (bar 1 or 2) were the worst I remember in over a decade.

Cork, Clare, Limerick, Kilkenny, Dublin and Tipp are ahead of us now. Wexford are gaining significantly on us and Waterford are about the same level as us.

Look at the team that lined out. If other teams were looking at us, you'd ask who would they would want and the answer is there isn't too many.

For me the two Burkes in the backs did quite well and have added to the squad. David Collins is still battling away, Fergal Moore is past it now imo. Paul Killeen, Joseph Cooney and these lads will never be good enough for county hurling. Damien Hayes and Aidan Harte coming on says it all really.

You look down through the squad, there isn't really anyone left out who'd make a huge difference.

The one thing to the players credit is they made countless mistakes and looked a bit of a mess but they kept going which wasn't present in previous seasons but that's not much consolation.

Galway were ill-disciplined. Our game plan defied belief and as usual management didn't react to what was happening in front of him.

The worst thing of all is that the 2014 version of Kilkenny aren't that hectic. Teams with pace and a proper game-plan will may hay against that backline. Unfortunately for us we hadn't the personnel or the game-plan to make the most of Kilkenny's shortcomings.

We'll lose in Thurles next Saturday evening, the axe will fall on Cunningham and the merry go round will start again over the winter. Just totally fed up of it at this stage.

I really think we all need to wake up as to how far we are off the pace. The footballers went 32 years before 1998 without winning an All-Ireland. In 2020 we'll be 32 years without a hurling All-Ireland. It pains me to say I see no reason to believe we will win an All-Ireland before 2020.

donnem33

Borders no.2 wrote: »

Depressing stuff. Really you'd have to question where Galway hurling is going. This team is miles off the level needed to be pushing for the McCarthy Cup. I think 2012 lulled us into a false sense that Galway Hurling wasn't in a bad place, we are well down the pack and we are sinking further and further down the pecking order. The last couple of years at u21 have been dire and the minors last year (bar 1 or 2) were the worst I remember in over a decade.

Cork, Clare, Limerick, Kilkenny, Dublin and Tipp are ahead of us now. Wexford are gaining significantly on us and Waterford are about the same level as us.

Look at the team that lined out. If other teams were looking at us, you'd ask who would they would want and the answer is there isn't too many.

For me the two Burkes in the backs did quite well and have added to the squad. David Collins is still battling away, Fergal Moore is past it now imo. Paul Killeen, Joseph Cooney and these lads will never be good enough for county hurling. Damien Hayes and Aidan Harte coming on says it all really.

You look down through the squad, there isn't really anyone left out who'd make a huge difference.

The one thing to the players credit is they made countless mistakes and looked a bit of a mess but they kept going which wasn't present in previous seasons but that's not much consolation.

Galway were ill-disciplined. Our game plan defied belief and as usual management didn't react to what was happening in front of him.

The worst thing of all is that the 2014 version of Kilkenny aren't that hectic. Teams with pace and a proper game-plan will may hay against that backline. Unfortunately for us we hadn't the personnel or the game-plan to make the most of Kilkenny's shortcomings.

We'll lose in Thurles next Saturday evening, the axe will fall on Cunningham and the merry go round will start again over the winter. Just totally fed up of it at this stage.

I really think we all need to wake up as to how far we are off the pace. The footballers went 32 years before 1998 without winning an All-Ireland. In 2020 we'll be 32 years without a hurling All-Ireland. It pains me to say I see no reason to believe we will win an All-Ireland before 2020.

Little bit negative post..i mean if eoin murphy hadnt such an unbeliveable game last sun, we could well be preparing for a leinster final next sunday! Even this evening, Kilkenny didnt look overly confortable until TJ got the third goal (and he took plenty of steps aswell). In saying that Kilkenny were the better team and did deserve the win even though the scoreline is a bit flattering.

When losing a match like this evening, at least the lads have the chance to rectify the poor performance straight away next weekend and they deserve all our support. Tipp are no world beaters and are there for the taking! Even though it was only a challenge match, Galway gave them a nice trimming in a fiery match 2 weeks ago and Galway never fear tipp.

All it takes is one big confidence win in the qualifiers to get on a roll. Look at clare last year, they were woeful against cork in the munster final and the win against galway made them. One big win against a top team could make all the difference.

Hulk Hands

Thought the backs we're quite good, the Burke's especially as well as Moore. Tannion had a storming opening quarter and held his own thereafter. Andy Smith was ok in midfield if a little quiet. The blame lies with the forwards to be honest. They simply couldnt win primary possesion and were wasteful in the times they did. Cooney can excuse himself but the rest need to step up massively