Have Oasis made one good album since Be Here Now

dilbert2

Was just browsing through my old CD collection earlier and came across a few oasis albums and singles, but none that came after Be Here Now back in 1997. They had two great albums back in 1994 and 1995 - Definitely Maybe and What's the Story, and then of course their third album Be Here Now in 1997 was just about acceptable. A few of their old singles like Whatever were good as well.

However from looking at their work in the 2000s, starting with their 4th album "Standing on the shoulder of giants" released in 2000, it appears to go downhill from there, and the music becomes quiet frankly untalented rubbish - which is unusual for a band whose first two albums were of such good quality. If there are any other oasis fans here, am I right in saying that they've been going downhill since their third album in 1997?

galwayrush

They tried too hard to be the Beatles, and severely ****ed it up.

Ghost Estate

If they havn't it is no doubt the fault of the Catholic church.

Micky Dolenz

Moved from After hours.

KylieWyley

dilbert2 wrote: »

If there are any other oasis fans here, am I right in saying that they've been going downhill since their third album in 1997?

dude, Oasis aren't together anymore...

m@cc@

dilbert2 wrote: »

If there are any other oasis fans here, am I right in saying that they've been going downhill since their third album in 1997?

It's 2005 again?

d.anthony

This is just going to turn into an Oasis bashing thread...

For what it's worth I think SOTSOG, Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe The Truth were pretty damn good albums but they would always be compared to the first two, and to be fair they were never gonna hit the heights of them two.

jungleland86

Dig out your Soul was their best album in my opinion. They finally seemed to be heading in an interesting (and more psychedelic) direction when they broke up. Any hope for decent music rests with Noel now.

Malice

Moved to Music.

ricero

dig out your soul and heathen chemistry are brilliant albums but they were made by oasis which people will always compare to there first 2 albums so there ****e.

**** oasis anyway its all about beady eye now

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ricero

zimovain

Don't Believe The Truth and Dig Out Your Soul are as good as the first two albums in my opinion.

spider guardian

They were never going to top DM and WTSMG but I think subsequent albums each have a few stand out tracks.

Giants: Roll It Over and Sunday Morning Call were great songs. It's a shame Roll It Over was never played live.

Heathen Chemistry: The poorest of the lot in my opionion. Little By Little and Better Man were decent. Songbird is good in a chirpy kind of way.

Don't Believe The Truth: The Meaning of Soul and Lyla are brilliant.

Dig Out Your Sould: One of their best. No bad songs on this album IMO. Waiting For The Rapture, Bag It Up and Soldier On are standouts for me.

All that being said, they put some rubbish out as well. I Can See A Liar, Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is and (Probably) All In The Mind were awful.

The B-Sides are for a different thread!

nxbyveromdwjpg

Heathen Chemistrys one of my favourites, great album

strobe

Yep, Heathen Chemistry is a great album in my opinion. I think SCYHO and Little by Little are easily amongst the best work Oasis have put out, the rest of the album is solid as well.

bryaner

Who??

aDeener

bryaner wrote: »

Who??

no this is an oasis thread, not the who


:rolleyes:

antomorro-sei

Yep, they're all good albums. It's just impossible for them to beat Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory as they're two of the finest albums I've ever heard.

sydsad

Yeah, i was such a massive Oasis fan and after SOTSOG i kinda lost interest. Apart from a couple of songs it wasnt as good but i suppose it would be hard to top DM and WTSMG to be fair.

They where the band that lead me to pick up the guitar.

Great band 94-97/98.

Love the b-side album as well. Some great great songs. Ill never know why they put the masterplan as a bside though.

smokedeels

How many Oasis related threads do we need?

gustavo

Don't Believe the Truth and Standing on the Shoulder of Giants

ntlbell

be here now was good

aDeener

ntlbell wrote: »

be here now was good

it is fuppin' excellent imo

oasis didnt make a truly great album after BHN, but they were damn good with a lot of great songs written unfortunately let down by songs like little james, she is love, get off your high horse lady which prevented them from being great.

particularly annoying when they had b-sides from that era which were superb such as lets all make believe, carry us all, shout it out loud

JerryHandbag

Everything Oasis released since Be Here Now was good IMO. Theres probably 2 or 3 weak tracks on each, but everything else is quality.

Not too gone on Beady Eye though.

ricero

JerryHandbag wrote: »

Everything Oasis released since Be Here Now was good IMO. Theres probably 2 or 3 weak tracks on each, but everything else is quality.

Not too gone on Beady Eye though.

beady eyes new albums quite amazing as good as whats the story .... and defiantly maybe IMO

dhmusic

smokedeels wrote: »

How many Oasis related threads do we need?

This is a strange type of reply that is always in any thread concerning Oasis, There could be 50 threads in a row about Radiohead, Rory Gallagher, etc etc ... and you'll never get Oasis fans butting in to tell everyone how much they hate Radiohead, RG, etc ... for some reason, people seem to have a need to give an unwanted opinion about a band they clearly dislike. If you don't like Oasis, so what, Oasis fans don't want to know. There are a lot of Oasis threads because there are a lot of Oasis fans.

ricero

dhmusic wrote: »

This is a strange type of reply that is always in any thread concerning Oasis, There could be 50 threads in a row about Radiohead, Rory Gallagher, etc etc ... and you'll never get Oasis fans butting in to tell everyone how much they hate Radiohead, RG, etc ... for some reason, people seem to have a need to give an unwanted opinion about a band they clearly dislike. If you don't like Oasis, so what, Oasis fans don't want to know. There are a lot of Oasis threads because there are a lot of Oasis fans.

****ing true words spoken mate to many oasis haters on this not because of the music they produce but because of liam gallagher personality. thom yorkes a cock but i still like radiohead

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ricero

Bonavox

bryaner wrote: »

Who??

Beatles tribute band without the actual covers. :rolleyes:

Bryan4president

Bonavox wrote: »

Beatles tribute band without the actual covers. :rolleyes:

If they don't do covers, they're not really a tribute band, are they? :rolleyes:

And why does anyone that dislikes Oasis have to say they're just a Beatles tribute band. They're a great band in their own right, with some mega tunes, no need to paint them with the "Oh they're just a glorified Beatles tribute act" brush.

ricero

Bonavox wrote: »

Beatles tribute band without the actual covers. :rolleyes:

oasis are the band the beatles should of been

aDeener

Bonavox wrote: »

Beatles tribute band without the actual covers. :rolleyes:

*yawn...... :rolleyes:

for such a smart arse you think you would realise they actually have covered, i am the walrus, helter skelter, within you without you, you've got to hide your love away

aDeener

Bryan4president wrote: »

If they don't do covers, they're not really a tribute band, are they? :rolleyes:

And why does anyone that dislikes Oasis have to say they're just a Beatles tribute band. They're a great band in their own right, with some mega tunes, no need to paint them with the "Oh they're just a glorified Beatles tribute act" brush.

they do that because they are lazy and also fail to realise that the chances are whatever music they like were heavily influenced by the beatles too (what artist hasn't been?)

the only difference is that the gallaghers have the fucking balls to be open, honest and very funny about their admiration for the fab four

Bonavox

ricero wrote: »

oasis are the band the beatles should of been

Haha, are you serious? I seriously hope you're not serious with that absolute lunatic claim. Everything about them reeks obsession with The Beatles, and WTSMG is hugely overrated and DOYS was the beginning of the end.

I honestly don't get how people can enjoy two bickering brothers surrounded by a backing band (let's be honest) that continued to change. Liam Gallagher alone is the captial dick of the music industry.

ricero

Bonavox wrote: »

Haha, are you serious? I seriously hope you're not serious with that absolute lunatic claim. Everything about them reeks obsession with The Beatles, and WTSMG is hugely overrated and DOYS was the beginning of the end.

I honestly don't get how people can enjoy two bickering brothers surrounded by a backing band (let's be honest) that continued to change. Liam Gallagher alone is the captial dick of the music industry.

of course im joking but liam is a ****ing legend

Bonavox

ricero wrote: »

of course im joking but liam is a ****ing legend

He's a mindless thug who should be in jail. :rolleyes:

ricero

Bonavox wrote: »

He's a mindless thug who should be in jail. :rolleyes:

one mans mindless thug is another mans genius

to be fair hes calm down a lot

Bonavox

ricero wrote: »

one mans mindless thug is another mans genius

to be fair hes calm down a lot

No, he's just a mindless thug.

And yeah, he's really calmed down. Throwing his BRIT into the audience that was awarded to Oasis, thanking everyone from the band besides Noel and flipping the finger is wonderful progress, isn't it? Sarcastic, btw.

ricero

Bonavox wrote: »

No, he's just a mindless thug.

And yeah, he's really calmed down. Throwing his BRIT into the audience that was awarded to Oasis, thanking everyone from the band besides Noel and flipping the finger is wonderful progress, isn't it? Sarcastic, btw.

the whole brit thing was overblown he was just giving the award to the fans thats all the mans keeping the rock n roll lifestyle alive man to many puff bands emerging. he should of thanked noel but thats sibling rivalry for ya. hes not a mindless thug either the man is producing a very successful clothing range which has won many awards and stock is rising.
also his new band is the dogs bollix

live forever

ricero

Bonavox

ricero wrote: »

the whole brit thing was overblown he was just giving the award to the fans thats all the mans keeping the rock n roll lifestyle alive man to many puff bands emerging. he should of thanked noel but thats sibling rivalry for ya. hes not a mindless thug either the man is producing a very successful clothing range which has won many awards and stock is rising.
also his new band is the dogs bollix

live forever

ricero

No he threw it in, and BRIT staff had to fish it from the audience. It was a big award and could have genuinely hurt someone. And you say he's keeping the rock and roll lifestyle alive opposed to these "puff" bands ... then you go on to mention he's releasing a clothing range? Yeah, rock on. :rolleyes:

I'd comment on Beady Eye, but quite frankly, I haven't heard anything from them yet.

ricero

Bonavox wrote: »

No he threw it in, and BRIT staff had to fish it from the audience. It was a big award and could have genuinely hurt someone. And you say he's keeping the rock and roll lifestyle alive opposed to these "puff" bands ... then you go on to mention he's releasing a clothing range? Yeah, rock on. :rolleyes:

I'd comment on Beady Eye, but quite frankly, I haven't heard anything from them yet.

haha there nice clothes man mod style you need to look cool if your a rock star. im sorry but he gently threw that award in ffs the brits are bollix in anyway.

give them a listen there good **** noel, liams the man.

Bonavox

ricero wrote: »

the whole brit thing was overblown he was just giving the award to the fans thats all the mans keeping the rock n roll lifestyle alive man to many puff bands emerging. he should of thanked noel but thats sibling rivalry for ya. hes not a mindless thug either the man is producing a very successful clothing range which has won many awards and stock is rising.
also his new band is the dogs bollix

live forever

ricero

ricero wrote: »

haha there nice clothes man mod style you need to look cool if your a rock star. im sorry but he gently threw that award in ffs the brits are bollix in anyway.

give them a listen there good **** noel, liams the man.

As much as I don't like Oasis, I have absolutely no doubt that Noel made the band. Liam is an overrated asshole and it's just the way he is. He can't help it, and people can see that, so they just ignore him now. Anyway, your posts lack any real grammar, and more importantly, argument, so I'll bid out. Enjoy Beady Eye.

ricero

Bonavox wrote: »

As much as I don't like Oasis, I have absolutely no doubt that Noel made the band. Liam is an overrated asshole and it's just the way he is. He can't help it, and people can see that, so they just ignore him now. Anyway, your posts lack any real grammar, and more importantly, argument, so I'll bid out. Enjoy Beady Eye.

noel wrote the songs yea but oasis would of been ****ing nothing without liam on vocals and his charisma as the front man of the band. he was recently voted the greatest front man of all time

anyway i take it you listen to my chemical romance and puff bands like that so **** rite off

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ricero

Basq

ricero, tell another member of this forum to "**** rite off" again and you'll see getting a holiday from this forum.

Final warning!

antomorro-sei

Bonavox wrote: »

WTSMG is hugely overrated

Hehe.

spider guardian

Bonavox wrote: »

As much as I don't like Oasis, I have absolutely no doubt that Noel made the band. Liam is an overrated asshole and it's just the way he is.

Having had the pleasure of meeting Liam Gallagher I can tell you first hand he is anything but an asshole. He's a gentleman of the highest order. He might have been wild in his youth but then given enough fame and money any of us might well have been. He's hardly over-rated when he's the lead singer in what was one of the biggest bands in the world. Noel might have written the songs but Oasis would not have been Oasis without Liam. One of the best vocalists out there IMO.

Bonavox wrote: »

He can't help it, and people can see that, so they just ignore him now.

Have you tried getting tickets to Beady Eye? They're all sold out.

Bonavox wrote: »

Anyway, your posts lack any real grammar, and more importantly, argument, so I'll bid out. Enjoy Beady Eye.

By now, you should've somehow, realised that grammar nazis are uncool. Is that Liam Gallagher in your head singing that line?

SEPT 23 1989

They should have called it a day after Knebworth,they were the biggest band in the world then everything after this point was second rate.

Definitely Maybe was a masterpiece

dhmusic

Another argument people are using is the "beatles tribute band" thing. To rubbish a band because they are apparently un-original is to rubbish every piece of music you can think of. Everything is borrowed, Nirvana ripped off plenty of bands but they were still great in their own right.

A lot of the hatred comes from envy, that Oasis became the biggest band in the world for a time, coming from a small indie label, not much musical ability and simplicity as the main musical approach. That pissed off a lot of other bands who came from similar small labels, had better musical ability but lacked the mass appeal Oasis had. Most of them play the "we never sold out just to get to number 1" card, disguising the fact that if the majority of "cool" bands really had a proper go at it, they would fail miserably. Oasis went for it and achieved it.

They brought guitar music back to the masses and for a while you had bands like Oasis, Blur, The Verve, Ocean Colour Scene dominating radio and the charts instead of the computer pop over-produced over-packaged ****e that has ruled the roost ever since.

Can'tseeme

I've been a fan of Oasis, I've always thought Noel has an ear for a tune. I thought the introduction of Gem and Andy Bell was a great move. As they were better musicians than what the band had including Noel. Not everything they did was great but if you go through their albums they've plenty of good stuff. Straight forward retro rock n roll with, crackin' vocals from Liam. Liam, Gem and Andy also had the occasional decent song.

The only criticism I'd have would be that I thought more effort could have been put in lyrically to their songs. It all seemed a little lazy at times and far too many Beatle references.

I'd love to see Noel link up with a lyricist in the future and see what tunes they can come up with. Similar to how the MSP work with James, Nicky and Richard.

DoesNotCompute

dilbert2 wrote: »

Was just browsing through my old CD collection earlier and came across a few oasis albums and singles, but none that came after Be Here Now back in 1997. They had two great albums back in 1994 and 1995 - Definitely Maybe and What's the Story, and then of course their third album Be Here Now in 1997 was just about acceptable. A few of their old singles like Whatever were good as well.

However from looking at their work in the 2000s, starting with their 4th album "Standing on the shoulder of giants" released in 2000, it appears to go downhill from there, and the music becomes quiet frankly untalented rubbish - which is unusual for a band whose first two albums were of such good quality. If there are any other oasis fans here, am I right in saying that they've been going downhill since their third album in 1997?

Couldn't agree more. The first two albums were great, but everything went downhill from Be Here Now onwards.

aDeener

Bonavox wrote: »

He's a mindless thug who should be in jail. :rolleyes:

what exactly should he be in jail for? :rolleyes:

methinks it's not liam who is the 'mindless' one

Can'tseeme

DoesNotCompute wrote: »

Couldn't agree more. The first two albums were great, but everything went downhill from Be Here Now onwards.

Personally speaking I've always thought Morning Glory was overrated and Be Here Now not that good. Cast No Shadow was the stand out song on the album. Wonderall, Morning Glory and Champagne Supernova are decent tunes that I don't listen to much. But the rest of the album imo, is pretty poor. 'Do You Know What I mean' from Be Here Now was a belter but after that the rest of the album is pretty poor.

For me, most of Oasis' best stuff is on Don't Believe the Truth and Heathen Chemistry. Songs like 'Turn Up the Sun', 'Songbird, Born on a Different Cloud, Keep the Dream Alive, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel, Lyla, Hindu Times, Idle, Crying your heart out, etc, are far better than what's on Morning Glory and Be Here Now.

ricero

Can'tseeme wrote: »

Personally speaking I've always thought Morning Glory was overrated and Be Here Now not that good. Cast No Shadow was the stand out song on the album. Wonderall, Morning Glory and Champagne Supernova are decent tunes that I don't listen to much. But the rest of the album imo, is pretty poor. 'Do You Know What I mean' from Be Here Now was a belter but after that the rest of the album is pretty poor.

For me, most of Oasis' best stuff is on Don't Believe the Truth and Heathen Chemistry. Songs like 'Turn Up the Sun', 'Songbird, Born on a Different Cloud, Keep the Dream Alive, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel, Lyla, Hindu Times, Idle, Crying your heart out, etc, are far better than what's on Morning Glory and Be Here Now.

some might say is the best tune on whats the story...

****ing epic man thats pure rock n roll. one me fav songs by oasis is lord dont slow me down ****ing rock n roll man

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ricero