killing

lesserspottedchloe

I was just browsing there and came across something scary that made me wonder...how can people hunt/shoot foxes? I mean genuinely I don't understand how people can stare down the barrel of a shotgun and kill such a magnificent animal without a care in the world?

TheZohanS

Because its fun, and they won't shoot themselves.

hondasam

Do you live in the countryside ?

TeddyTedson

Hippie! I love to murder animals and eat them. Tasty

major bill

says OP as she digs into a chicken burger!!!

desaparecidos

hondasam wrote: »

Do you live in the countryside ?

Does that imply if you live in the country side you'd "get it"?

I live in the country side and the vast majority of people I know wouldn't hunt / own a gun and I consider people who hunt somewhat lacking something mentally.

banquo

Because you make your living from chickens or other livestock and foxes kill and eat them.

It's not for the craic. If you ran a restaurant you'd probably have mousetraps.

Naikon

Kill a human = You evil bastard!
Kill a fox = Good potshot, Sir!

major bill

Naikon wrote: »

Kill a human = You evil bastard!
Kill a fox = Good potshot, Sir!

eat any other animal = yum yum

Point??

My name is URL

Don't be misled by their innocent looks.. given half a chance most foxes would murder you and everyone you care about

hondasam

desaparecidos wrote: »

Does that imply if you live in the country side you'd "get it"?

I live in the country side and the vast majority of people I know wouldn't hunt / own a gun and I consider people who hunt somewhat lacking something mentally.

you want the country to be overrun with foxes. majority of farmers own guns and kill foxes.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Mr Fox thinks he's so fantastic

Kasabian

On another matter, are badgers suicidal, I recently came across 6 dead on the roads from Cork to Galway.

Duckworth_Luas

laylah wrote: »

I was just browsing there and came across something scary that made me wonder...how can people hunt/shoot foxes? I mean genuinely I don't understand how people can stare down the barrel of a shotgun and kill such a magnificent animal without a care in the world?

My brother-in-law is a farmer and often goes shooting game. Once a local dog went rogue and started killing his neighbour's sheep. The neighbour caught the dog and asked my brother-in-law to shoot it.

I asked him if it was difficult to shoot a dog, meaning it being man's best friend and all.

He said it was easy, as long as the dog sat still.

Naikon

major bill wrote: »

eat any other animal = yum yum

Point??

I ****ing love eating animals. I do not understand though why we are so reluctant towards killing and eating people but not animals. It's pretty arrogant to place the life of a human over an animal. I will still be eating my steak rare mind you.

*Edit - Human does not taste too good, apparently. *

Dunjohn

laylah wrote: »

I was just browsing there and came across something scary that made me wonder...how can people hunt/shoot foxes? I mean genuinely I don't understand how people can stare down the barrel of a shotgun and kill such a magnificent animal without a care in the world?

Well it starts off reasonably enough but then the post drifts off into the wishy-washy language of somebody trying to convince me of something. That's what makes arguments like these so utterly ineffective most of the time. Keep the language plain and straight and people might listen more. Would it help if the animal was less magnificent? Does the hunter really not have a care in the world?

JONJO THE MISER

My name is URL wrote: »

Don't be misled by their innocent looks.. given half a chance most foxes would murder you and everyone you care about

Sure didn't they nearly kill 2 twins in London.

Kasabian

Is there still 5000 Mink running around Ireland somewhere?

Duckworth_Luas

Kasabian wrote: »

Is there still 5000 Mink running around Ireland somewhere?

There's that many in Tuam alone...




...I'll get my coat.

Badgermonkey

The Fox is manky, not magnificent.

And that's coming from the Badgermonkey :eek:

I live a mile or so from Cork City centre, quite a lot of lads around here are into hunting, foxes, rabbits etc. They don't shoot them though, dogs and shovels :eek: Also ferrets they use.

Lumen

Naikon wrote: »

It's pretty arrogant to place the life of a human over an animal.

So if you had to choose the life of your child over the life of your dog, you'd choose the dog?

Naikon

Lumen wrote: »

So if you had to choose the life of your child over the life of your dog, you'd choose the dog?

No. That is my point. We choose to discriminate based on selfish reasoning. I am sure the dog would want the other option.

Kasabian

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

There's that many in Tuam alone...




...I'll get my coat.

And so it begins. :P:pac:

Dave!

Kasabian wrote: »

On another matter, are badgers suicidal, I recently came across 6 dead on the roads from Cork to Galway.

Suicides on the increase since the GFC, touchy subject...

kowloon

A fox killed most of my birds. Only took one away but killed loads of them just for the sport. A few were left alive but torn open.
That's why they get shot.

deaddonkey

how?

with about 9lbs of finger pressure

Kasabian

Dave! wrote: »

Suicides on the increase since the GFC, touchy subject...

GFC ??

foxinsox

Badgermonkey wrote: »

The Fox is magnificent in her sox.

FYP

Sticky_Fingers

Kasabian wrote: »

Is there still 5000 Mink running around Ireland somewhere?

Think that happened somewhere in the UK, some retarded animal rights people thought it would be a good idea to release them into the wild from a fur farm. Spastics didn't give much thought to what releasing non native species would do to to the local wildlife, they were too busy fapping away to their own Born Free wet dream.

Dave!

Kasabian wrote: »

GFC ??

Global financial crisis

Twas a joke

stick shooter

To keep things in balance , Man has to keep the fox numbers to an acceptable level as there is no predators capable of keeping the fox numbers down .

Kasabian

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

Think that happened somewhere in the UK, some retarded animal rights people thought it would be a good idea to release them into the wild from a fur farm. Spastics didn't give much thought to what releasing non native species would do to to the local wildlife, they were too busy fapping away to their own Born Free wet dream.

I thought it was Ireland.

Red Hand

Because some people are stupid enough not to lock or properly fence in their chicken coops or leave young lambs in vulnerable positions. A wild animal is going to go to town on them.

The wild animal then gets shot/lamped/hounded because of this.

ejmaztec

Kasabian wrote: »

On another matter, are badgers suicidal, I recently came across 6 dead on the roads from Cork to Galway.

They're adapting the "Rules of The Road" for badgers, which will alleviate the problem.

At the moment, they don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to road safety, or saferty as they say in Kerry.

Duckworth_Luas

Kasabian wrote: »

I thought it was Ireland.

Happened in Donegal last year.

stick shooter

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Because some people are stupid enough not to lock or properly fence in their chicken coops or leave young lambs in vulnerable positions. A wild animal is going to go to town on them.

The wild animal then gets shot/lamped/hounded because of this.

ha ha ha good joke

Sticky_Fingers

Kasabian wrote: »

I thought it was Ireland.

I stand corrected, most recent was a release in Donegal though it appears this militant animal rights groups are as dumb as stumps because they didn't learn from what happened last time:

Donegal release

UK release back in 1998

Wolfe Tone

What else is there to do in the sticks?

Kasabian

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

I stand corrected, most recent was a release in Donegal though it appears this militant animal rights groups are as dumb as stumps because they didn't learn from what happened last time:

Donegal release

UK release back in 1998

I just googled it because I hate doubting my recall.

Kasabian

ejmaztec wrote: »

They're adapting the "Rules of The Road" for badgers, which will alleviate the problem.

At the moment, they don't know their arse from their elbow when it comes to road safety, or saferty as they say in Kerry.

I was wondeing because it seemed like alot. Thankfully the NRA are doing something about it. Progressive bunch that they are.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

There are minks running wild all over Ireland.

kowloon

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

Because some people are stupid enough not to lock or properly fence in their chicken coops or leave young lambs in vulnerable positions. A wild animal is going to go to town on them.

The wild animal then gets shot/lamped/hounded because of this.

You can't sink concrete under everything over a large area. Some birds need to be let out to fly about. It would be cruel to keep them penned the entire time.

xoxyx

I felt the same, but I've read some threads in the hunting forum and a lot of good points are made to give reason to hunting. I just know that I couldn't shoot an animal and watch it die (worse so if you were to shoot it in the wrong place and it didn't die quickly). I'm not okay with it, but it sounds like most people who do this, do it for reasons that are good enough (to them at least).

I just don't see the fun in it. Do it as a necessity, but not as a hobby.

Dave!

I'm not mad about killing animals needlessly, but as someone who eats meat from animals that have lived less than enjoyable lives, I don't think I'm in a position to criticise anybody.

There are these ants (in Australia anyway) that have a wierd citrusy flavour off them, and one of my mates licked one and put it back, and then I grabbed one (a different one) and ate it (we were fairly well along at this stage BTW -- eating ants is not something we do regularly ). He then spent the next 10 minutes chastising me for killing the poor ant. He's not a veggie or anything, but apparently didn't see the hypocracy of moaning at someone for killing an ant, quickly, while he's happy to eat a steak from a cow that died by having its throat cut.

Yeah we ate ants.

kowloon

Honeypot ants, I hear they're best dipped in chocolate.

saywhatyousee

i know a load of lads that hunt,they shoot everything in sight apart from deer

stick shooter

saywhatyousee wrote: »

i know a load of lads that hunt,they shoot everything in sight apart from deer

Whow whow relax there that is total stereotyping ,I do a lot of hunting and i do not shoot every thing in sight , Nor do any of my friends .

Kasabian

stick shooter wrote: »

Whow whow relax there that is total stereotyping ,I do a lot of hunting and i do not shoot every thing in sight , Nor do any of my friends .

Thanks for the warning, that you have a gun. :pac:

stick shooter

Kasabian wrote: »

Thanks for the warning, that you have a gun. :pac:

ha ha .your welcome my friend .:D

pwd

Naikon wrote: »

I ****ing love eating animals. I do not understand though why we are so reluctant towards killing and eating people but not animals. It's pretty arrogant to place the life of a human over an animal. I will still be eating my steak rare mind you.

*Edit - Human does not taste too good, apparently. *

Because you can get into a lot of trouble for killing people.
Which is silly. Killing people is one of the most environmentally-friendly things you can do.