bullet prices!!!!

RichieRich

hi all, how much are all you .243 users paying for bullets?
i bought a 20 box of federal 85gr off jeffers in bandon today for 39.50. can we get more value for money anywhere in .243??

daithi55

100 grain federal 33 euro a box in scullys athlone

mrbrianj

30 for a box of 100g federals in monkstowns crescent sports

hunterpajero

100grain federal soft point 28euro for a box of 20 off of paul halloran in drangan

Birdnuts

Has anyone got stuff cheaper online?? - serious cutbacks coming down the line here:(

It wasn't me!

Give John Kavanagh in Fingal Sports a shout. He has the PRVI stuff, which plenty people seem happy with. Think he said that was about €14 a box. If you want anything specific though, he's always been good to me about going looking for it, and always comes back with the best price I can find, so well worth a shout.

monte

whats that prvi ammo like i see they also have it in 223.55 euro for 100 rounds would be cheap foxes any 1 use it yet

fallowbuck

using remington core lokt 100gr paying 35euro des o halloran youghal:(

RichieRich

any chance reloading would be allowed soon? what kind of cost would one reload for? i'm hearing bout 80c a bullet!
happy days if it comes back

It wasn't me!

RichieRich wrote: »

any chance reloading would be allowed soon? what kind of cost would one reload for? i'm hearing bout 80c a bullet!
happy days if it comes back

Less than 80c, more like 60c per shot for a .243, after the initial startup costs, which would be a few hundred.

paul1972

100grn SP privi its either 14 or 20 euro a box off fingal sports

pugw

Anyone got a number for Fingal sports please? What way are the .243 sp Prvi stuff on deer?

Glensman

monte wrote: »

whats that prvi ammo like i see they also have it in 223.55 euro for 100 rounds would be cheap foxes any 1 use it yet

I'm using PRVI 130gr in my .270. Grouping well although I noticed the odd 'hot' round. My first batch cost £10 per box and I bought the dealer out of them. I think the next batch is gonna cost £12 a box.

I haven't done any extensive testing on targets. They hit what I aim at and are Very effective.

RichieRich

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Less than 80c, more like 60c per shot for a .243, after the initial startup costs, which would be a few hundred.

so anybody got a heads up on the reloading issue?? is the legislation going to be changed anytime soon?? the reason we weren't allowed all along is the troubles (headbangers) in the north. now that Gerry and his band of merry men have parked their horses then there's no reason for to have it banned:rolleyes::D

Glensman

RichieRich wrote: »

so anybody got a heads up on the reloading issue?? is the legislation going to be changed anytime soon?? the reason we weren't allowed all along is the troubles (headbangers) in the north. now that Gerry and his band of merry men have parked their horses then there's no reason for to have it banned:rolleyes::D

Hardly. Re-loading was allowed here all along. The IRA had no need of re-loading 7.62mm or 9mm.

Cass

RichieRich wrote: »

any chance reloading would be allowed soon? what kind of cost would one reload for? i'm hearing bout 80c a bullet!

The cost of reloading is much cheaper than most factory ammo available. However do not be "sucked in" by the appeal of cheap ammo as this is the outcome after the initial setup. Allowing for the fact that you do not intend to shoot target, and merely want consistant yet better ammo for your hunter you will be looking at:

Press - €120 for a good brand, base model.
Dies - €55 to include neck resize, full length resize and seating dies.
Powder Thrower - €75
Priming tool - €25
Scales - €125 for basic digital one
Case trimmer - €100
OAL gauge - €40
Lube kit - €20
Tumbler - €85
Calipers - €30
Miltiple tools - €150, this includes funnels, primer pocket tool, flash hole tool, shell holders, bullet trays, bullet boxes, Kinetic hammer, deburring tool, trickler, etc.

Thats the tools needed for about €825. You could save a few quid by buying cheaper branded stuff, but at most you will save €150 max. So minimum price would be €675.

Now the actual componants;

Powder - €65 per 2 pound (good for 300-ish rounds)
Bullets - €40 per 100 so €120 for 300 rounds to match powder.
Primers - €35 per 1,000
Cases - €65 per 100 so thats €195 per 300.

Now allowing for not needing cases you are looking at €220 per 300(ish) rounds. Giving you a cost per round of about €0.70 (could be lower depending on amount of rounds loaded from 2lb of powder).

So to sum up you have an initial outlay of €675 for equipment with €220 for the first 300 rounds. Thats €995. Then €220 per every 300 rounds after, with the occassional cost of a few boxes of brass. Cheap enough but if you only hunt and your yearly mount of ammo is 100 rounds then reloading is a bigger expense than its worth. You would need to be doing alot of shooting for the cost of the gear to pay for itself.

RichieRich wrote:

so anybody got a heads up on the reloading issue?? is the legislation going to be changed anytime soon??...........

Until the new explosives Act is completed there is no definitive word on when or if it may be available to all shooters, and in what capacity.

RichieRich wrote: »

............. the reason we weren't allowed all along is the troubles (headbangers) in the north. now that Gerry and his band of merry men have parked their horses then there's no reason for to have it banned:rolleyes::D

Wrong. It was up until recently allowed under license by the DOJ/An Gardai.

Tackleberrywho

So just shy of a grand to get set up for 500 rounds.

I suppose it is like any process (set up is the expensive part, ROI only in year 2 or 3)

It looks like a lot of work.
Watched a video of a guy doing VLD's the other night.

Took him 15 minutes to make 5 rounds, if you were doing a lot of shooting it would take hours to make a load of them.

I suppose if you spent a day at it you could make a years Hunting Supply

Maybe some day.....................

Glensman

The main benefit of re-loading isn't really the price.
It's not worth me re-loading compared to the price I get PRVI £10 per 20. But the bullet you would re-load would be of FAR higher quality, say on a par with Federal v-Shok, which would cost me £38 per 20.

TBH, I don't (as yet) shoot past 250 yards so I'll stick with the cheap PRVI's.
With the initial cost, followed by running costs and it being another thing taking up space, I'll stick with factory rounds for the time-being; even though, being from the 6 counties I could re-load if I wish.

Cass

Glensman wrote: »

The main benefit of re-loading isn't really the price.
It's not worth me re-loading compared to the price I get PRVI £10 per 20. But the bullet you would re-load would be of FAR higher quality, say on a par with Federal v-Shok, which would cost me £38 per 20.

Thats a good point and one i might get stick for saying, but there are those out there that really do not "need" reloading. The factory ammo provides all the quality they need when put against the usage compared to the price. For example i would use 60-100 rounds per year for deer, foxing, etc so if that was all i was doing then i really wouldn't bother with reloading. For €200 (max) per year i have all the ammo of the highest quality i need.

However if i were firing 1,000+ rounds per year in target work then the price becomes an issue, but as Glensman said its not about the price its about tailor making a round that best suits my rifle rather than me trying to "find" a round that works, and having to "settle" for that round. Then there is the cost and procedure of trying ammo. You do not simply make a bullet and shoot it. Its all trial and error. You load a few bullets then test fire on a range. Go back and "adjust" then fire again. keep doing this until you get the "ideal" setup. Thats why its called load development.

Anyway to get back onto the theme of the thread i was over in the midlands on the weekend and i forgot my ammo so i dropped down to Jim Griffin's to get some. He has a massive stock of new ammo in. I'll list out the ones i can remember and i think some of it was ammo that lads were looking for. Anything without a price is stuff i cannot remember. Anything with a * is something i am not 100% sure on, but will not be far off.

.308
HPS 155gr - €55 per 50 (Target)
HPS 168gr - €55 - €65 per 50 (Target) (cannot remember which)
HPS 190gr - €65 per 50 (Target)
HPS 150gr Nosler - €99 per 50 (Hunting)

.303
HPS 175 gr - €45 per 50

.223
Hornady TAP 75gr - €36* per 20
There is other ammo, but i cannot remember the GR or price.

.220
Hornady 52gr A-Max - €?

.22lr
Eley Tenex - €12.50 per 50 or €120 per 500
Eley Match - €11 per 50 or €100 per 500
RWS - €?

Traumadoc

Basic reloading setup should cost you less than 300 euro, the powder thrower , tumbler etc are optional extras

http://www.bushwear.co.uk/nostyles.php?ProductID=304006&ClassID=196

Tackleberrywho

I bought Hornady Superperformance for €180 when I got 100
Hps 125grain was €179 for 100

The Hornady Standard Deviation was better than the HPS, so it's all about high end precision

From Youtube Videos, it seems most reload to build a specific round to suit their requirements

For me I'd like to be able to chose a round that suited me.
Hornady to date has done that, however supply can be an issue of Hornady.


If I was making my own, I'd like something on a Par with Superperformance for teh .308

and 90grain hot VLD's for the .223

podge.243

RichieRich wrote: »

hi all, how much are all you .243 users paying for bullets?
i bought a 20 box of federal 85gr off jeffers in bandon today for 39.50. can we get more value for money anywhere in .243??

hi im usein win soft point in 80g my .243 loves them and there 24.50 euro for box of 20 in red mills gun shop.

RichieRich

podge.243 wrote: »

hi im usein win soft point in 80g my .243 loves them and there 24.50 euro for box of 20 in red mills gun shop.

is that the red mills shop in goresbridge??

podge.243

ye joe meaney is the man to look for there sound out.

SAKO_FTR

Got this list from JK in Fingal Sports per box of 20
Soft Point
.223 55Gr €11
.243 100Gr €14
6.5 x 55 156Gr €14
.308 150Gr €14

FMJ
6.5 x 55 139Gr €14
.303 174Gr €14
.308 168Gr Match €16

Going to tryout the .243 tomorrow
€14 can't really go wrong

RichieRich

SAKO_FTR wrote: »

Got this list from JK in Fingal Sports per box of 20
Soft Point
.223 55Gr €11
.243 100Gr €14
6.5 x 55 156Gr €14
.308 150Gr €14

FMJ
6.5 x 55 139Gr €14
.303 174Gr €14
.308 168Gr Match €16

Going to tryout the .243 tomorrow
€14 can't really go wrong

how you get on with the prvi ammo? anybody know if prvi is stocked by a dealer down south? sounds great value

kieran1141

hornady .243 95 grain sst's interlock 35 euro, duffy's galway, remington core-loct 100g psp's 243 26 euro, dont like the psp's do a lot of damage, think they have winchester 243 ammo for 24-5 euro supposed to be very good.nice to deal with....

custom 7mm08

got two boxes of hornady 95 grain sst's in country lifestyle in mallow for €30 each

243Xpress

Got my hands on a box of Prvi .243s today.Grouped well enough but i had a flier also.Dont think id use them for deer but ok for foxes and practice at that price.

lb1981

Clarke's Navan 26.99 per 20 of Hornady 55g v-max

deerhunter1

RichieRich wrote: »

hi all, how much are all you .243 users paying for bullets?
i bought a 20 box of federal 85gr off jeffers in bandon today for 39.50. can we get more value for money anywhere in .243??

http://www.fingalsports.com/ammo.html

They will deliver