Oliver J Flanagan jews and the masons?

TEMPLAR KNIGHT

Just came across this politician from back in the day and he seems to blame the jews and freemasons for Irelands problems and supported what hitler did to the jews, just thought to myself this was definately related to the illuminati and found this wiki interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_J._Flanagan

anyone ever come across across this before he seems to have known of there prescence and goals here in ireland just wondering did he know something everyone else didnt or was he just crazy?

enfant terrible

TEMPLAR KNIGHT wrote: »

Just came across this politician from back in the day and he seems to blame the jews and freemasons for Irelands problems and supported what hitler did to the jews, just thought to myself this was definately related to the illuminati and found this wiki interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_J._Flanagan

anyone ever come across across this before he seems to have known of there prescence and goals here in ireland just wondering did he know something everyone else didnt or was he just crazy?

Having read about him he seems like a horrible racist and its a terrible stain on our country he was an elected member of the Dáil when he spouted his racism so openly.

UDAWINNER

enfant terrible wrote: »

Having read about him he seems like a horrible racist and its a terrible stain on our country he was an elected member of the Dáil when he spouted his racism so openly.

Agreed. Disgraceful that he was ever elected

uprising2

Also a member of the order of the Knights of Saint Columbanus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_of_Saint_Columbanus#Irish_Oireachtas_.28Parliamentary.29_References_to_the_Activities_of_the_Knights

Monty Burnz

This guy is a poster child for everything that is wrong with politics in this country...

A notorious anti-semite early in his career, he used his maiden speech in the Dáil, on 9 July 1943, to urge the government to "rout the Jews out of this country". Nonetheless, he was consistently popular in his own constituency, largely because of the attention he paid to individual voters' petitions and concerns. He has been described as "one of the cutest of cute hoors in the history of the Dáil".

He was elected to the Dáil fourteen times between 1943 and 1982, topping the poll on almost every occasion

Gombeen man, parish pump politician, racist, arch-conservative, hung around for decades, finished working in the real world aged 23 never to return (Mary Coughlan, how are you?).

eamo12

Monty Burnz wrote: »

This guy is a poster child for everything that is wrong with politics in this country...

Gombeen man, parish pump politician, racist, arch-conservative

The one word glaringly missing from your description is... National Socialist

K-9

eamo12 wrote: »

The one word glaringly missing from your description is... National Socialist

Indeed. FG would have been an extremely socially conservative party back then, in many ways more old fashioned than FF. The FG "liberals" that arrived in the 70's would have been arch enemies of his, Garret Fitzgerald in particular.

As for his comments re Jews etc., I'd say he just picked it from books and political theory at the time.

If there was an elite in those days, it was a socially conservative, mainly Catholic elite. I'd say look at the Knights of Columbanus as uprising2 posted or Opus Dei.

Monty Burnz

eamo12 wrote: »

The one word glaringly missing from your description is... National Socialist

Yup, sounds like he'd be right at home home in the Third Reich.

Phill Ewinn

Wonder how many Fine Gaelers are in the freemasons now.

eldile

His son is running for election in Laois Offaly for Fine Geal and is a sitting TD Charlie Flanagan.

Monty Burnz

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

Wonder how many Fine Gaelers are in the freemasons now.

No idea - but he was rabidly opposed to the freemasons.

K-9

Monty Burnz wrote: »

No idea - but he was rabidly opposed to the freemasons.

He'd have viewed it as Protestant and Unionist, he preferred a Catholic version.

Monty Burnz

K-9 wrote: »

He'd have viewed it as Protestant and Unionist, he preferred a Catholic version.

Yeah, he was a Knight of Columbanus according to Wikipedia. I'm gobsmacked and appalled that that the morons in Laois-Offaly were still voting in this rabid anti-semite gombeen man until the 1980s - wtf were they thinking?? Although they elected Brian Cowen alongside him in 1984...

K-9

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Yeah, he was a Knight of Columbanus according to Wikipedia. I'm gobsmacked and appalled that that the morons in Laois-Offaly were still voting in this rabid anti-semite gombeen man until the 1980s - wtf were they thinking?? Although they elected Brian Cowen alongside him in 1984...

On they are still about, think COIR and their ilk in European referenda.

Mahatma coat

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Yeah, he was a Knight of Columbanus according to Wikipedia. I'm gobsmacked and appalled that that the morons in Laois-Offaly were still voting in this rabid anti-semite gombeen man until the 1980s - wtf were they thinking?? Although they elected Brian Cowen alongside him in 1984...

they were thinking

Heres the Candidate that best represents my political views, he's done well for us so far, lets keep him at it.

The fact that you find him distasteful really dosent matter to the people who voted for him, if anything it would have made him More popular in his Parish

Monty Burnz

Mahatma coat wrote: »

The fact that you find him distasteful really dosent matter to the people who voted for him, if anything it would have made him More popular in his Parish

Yup. Plenty of people vote for scumbags, that's democracy I guess.

Mahatma coat

Thats Proportional Representation my friend

profitius

enfant terrible wrote: »

Having read about him he seems like a horrible racist and its a terrible stain on our country he was an elected member of the Dáil when he spouted his racism so openly.

Hang on folks, it looks like modern propaganda has got to you. He wanted the Jew-masonic system gone and didn't trust Jewish people because of that. If he was really a racist he would have wanted all non Whites out of Ireland.

Now lots of people can agree that elites control most of the wealth of the world and Flanagan and others knew this at the time and were rightly rebelling against it.

Remember in those times people were not hyper-PC like they are today.

K-9

So he wasn't racist wanting the Government to run the Jews out of Ireland?

Maybe I'm too PC seeing that as racist.

nyarlothothep

profitius wrote: »

Hang on folks, it looks like modern propaganda has got to you. He wanted the Jew-masonic system gone and didn't trust Jewish people because of that. If he was really a racist he would have wanted all non Whites out of Ireland.

Now lots of people can agree that elites control most of the wealth of the world and Flanagan and others knew this at the time and were rightly rebelling against it.

Remember in those times people were not hyper-PC like they are today.

Essentially you're blaming one ethnic group for controlling the entire world which is both a logical fallacy in itself and falls under the category of racism. FYI jews got into finance as they were denied land ownership, same scenario with the film industry, they had to build their own cinemas for similar reasons irc and they've had a rough history of persecution, does that strike you as the narrative of an all powerful racial cabal? Upon initial analysis Flanagan seems to have embodied the worst parts of Irish culture, parish pump politics, bigotry, small mindedness, cute hooerism, these are traits to the Irish psyche I would like to see disappear.

Mahatma coat

Shock Horror, Throughout history People have disliked the Jews :eek:

ever stop to wonder Why :rolleyes:

eamo12

eamo12 wrote: »

The one word glaringly missing from your description is... National Socialist

National Socialist is definately two words..


(there's even a space in between them..look)

enfant terrible

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Shock Horror, Throughout history People have disliked the Jews :eek:

ever stop to wonder Why :rolleyes:

Please explain further if your allowed back on this site, hopefully your not.

nyarlothothep

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Shock Horror, Throughout history People have disliked the Jews :eek:

ever stop to wonder Why :rolleyes:

The reasons are numerous but not the ones you're suggesting. Please think about this, the jews aren't your enemy or any ethnic group for that matter, I bet there are plenty of jewish conspiracy theorists like you. I don't see why you should single them out based on being jewish, thats like me saying you're scheming to de-stabilize the Australian economy because you're Irish.

brimal

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Shock Horror, Throughout history People have disliked the Jews :eek:

ever stop to wonder Why :rolleyes:

The anti-semetic undercurrent in this forum is so blatant. Mods, you need to run a tighter ship. Sometimes I wonder is this a conspiracy theory forum at all. Alot of these posts have nothing to do with conspiracies, just users trying to convince the rest of us of their political/social beliefs.

It's pretty frustrating to see a new thread almost daily on the topic of Jews or related to them in some way. Some topics are started on a completely different subject, and then the usual suspects bring Jew/Zionism/Israel into it.

Now this morning, I see this user and a mod PMing each other in relation to starting another (surprise surprise) Zionist thread.
The user who wanted to 'moderate/officiate' this new thread says things like 'ever stop to wonder why' and you expect him to be neutral?

chucken1

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Shock Horror, Throughout history People have disliked the Jews :eek:

ever stop to wonder Why :rolleyes:

What?

chucken1

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Yeah, he was a Knight of Columbanus according to Wikipedia. I'm gobsmacked and appalled that that the morons in Laois-Offaly were still voting in this rabid anti-semite gombeen man until the 1980s - wtf were they thinking?? Although they elected Brian Cowen alongside him in 1984...

Were you even born then?? When THEY (Your parents) were voting? No I think not.

Isnt Wiki great...How about ASKING people..you know..by TALKING?

I cant WAIT to see how the country looks when you lot of keyboard warriors are finished.

Monty Burnz

chucken1 wrote: »

Were you even born then?? When THEY (Your parents) were voting? No I think not.

Isnt Wiki great...How about ASKING people..you know..by TALKING?

I cant WAIT to see how the country looks when you lot of keyboard warriors are finished.

Do you have a point to make about Flanagan?

Penn

Brimal warned for back-seat modding.

Everyone else, if you have a problem with a post, report it. Mahatma Coat has already been given an infraction for his comment. If you do not agree with the mods decision, report it again or PM the mods. I would point out this part of the charter:

The very nature of a conspiracy theory means that it will be unpalatable to some. Individuals, Corporations, Interest Groups, and collectives of all sorts will inevitably be suspected (and accused) of involvement in any manner of activities.

This is not a license for anyone to ignore site-wide guidelines or the rest of this charter.

If you feel that a post (or poster) is doing so, then report the post and do not respond to it.

This thread is on thin ice and will be locked if further bickering continues.

Thanks.

profitius

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Essentially you're blaming one ethnic group for controlling the entire world which is both a logical fallacy in itself and falls under the category of racism. FYI jews got into finance as they were denied land ownership, same scenario with the film industry, they had to build their own cinemas for similar reasons irc and they've had a rough history of persecution, does that strike you as the narrative of an all powerful racial cabal? Upon initial analysis Flanagan seems to have embodied the worst parts of Irish culture, parish pump politics, bigotry, small mindedness, cute hooerism, these are traits to the Irish psyche I would like to see disappear.

I knew a person who was not liked by people. Where ever he went people soon got to dislike him. This fella was short and a troublemaker. So either people disliked him for being short or they soon got to know what he was like.

We can call people shortists for discriminating against short people or we can wisen up and realise that maybe the problem isn't with everyone else. See where I'm going here? This fella was angry and had a 'world against me' complex and ended up making life harder for himself than it should have been.

enfant terrible

profitius wrote: »

I knew a person who was not liked by people. Where ever he went people soon got to dislike him. This fella was short and a troublemaker. So either people disliked him for being short or they soon got to know what he was like.

We can call people shortists for discriminating against short people or we can wisen up and realise that maybe the problem isn't with everyone else. See where I'm going here? This fella was angry and had a 'world against me' complex and ended up making life harder for himself than it should have been.

It might surprise you to know you are wrong.

The reason Jews were disliked throughout history is the same reason any small group of people are disliked, they were different i.e not Christians or Muslims.

They were also treated as second class citizens are forced to live outside the main cities.

Pogroms became a feature of life in Europe in the Middle Ages and Jew-baiting became a popular activity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogroms#Pogroms_against_Jews

James Carroll asserted,
"Jews accounted for 10% of the total population of the Roman Empire. By that ratio, if other factors such as pogroms and conversions had not intervened, there would be 200 million Jews in the world today, instead of something like 13 million."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Ancient_world

nyarlothothep

profitius wrote: »

I knew a person who was not liked by people. Where ever he went people soon got to dislike him. This fella was short and a troublemaker. So either people disliked him for being short or they soon got to know what he was like.

We can call people shortists for discriminating against short people or we can wisen up and realise that maybe the problem isn't with everyone else. See where I'm going here? This fella was angry and had a 'world against me' complex and ended up making life harder for himself than it should have been.

Except thats one individual, you can't typify an entire race for the same reason. Its a different context involving different variables: politics/religion/social identity etc. The analogy falls apart in the leap from the individual case to a socio historical situation.

Strange though that black people aren't mentioned, did they bring it on themselves too? Did the Irish ask to be colonised, killed by the thousands by Cromwell? Did native americans invite massacre? And under what pretexts? Stupidity, primitivism or just being inferior? Or maybe it was none of the above. Maybe its because you have aggressors who will seek to persecute others who are different or weaker than they are, or for profit, or power or a narcissistic need to feel superior?

profitius

enfant terrible wrote: »

It might surprise you to know you are wrong.

No thats your opinion.

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Except thats one individual, you can't typify an entire race for the same reason. Its a different context involving different variables: politics/religion/social identity etc. The analogy falls apart in the leap from the individual case to a socio historical situation.

Strange though that black people aren't mentioned, did they bring it on themselves too? Did the Irish ask to be colonised, killed by the thousands by Cromwell? Did native americans invite massacre? And under what pretexts? Stupidity, primitivism or just being inferior? Or maybe it was none of the above. Maybe its because you have aggressors who will seek to persecute others who are different or weaker than they are, or for profit, or power or a narcissistic need to feel superior?

We're not talking about Black people. Flanagan only spoke about Jewish people.

Irish people and native Americans were not disliked throughout history by everyone. Its a totally different thing.

I don't think Flanagan spoke about Irish people being superior. He wanted to protect Ireland from certain groups.

Yitzhak Rabin

profitius wrote: »

I don't think Flanagan spoke about Irish people being superior. He wanted to protect Ireland from certain groups.

Who or what did he want to protect us from?

enfant terrible

profitius wrote: »

No thats your opinion.

Then tell me why I'm wrong why were Jews persecuted throughout history?

Mahatma coat

Going out on a Limb here slightly, but lookin at the timeframe for Flannagan, I'd say in his heart of Hearts he wanted to Protect Ireland from

International Zionisim
Because of
The Dilution of the Principals of 'Holy Catholic Ireland'
The threat of Propaganda from a Jewish Media
The threat if A Jewish inspired Communist Uprising
Odd Foreigners with their Foreign Ways

Probably mostly the last one


but mainly the best way to unify a disenfranchised poplation is to direct their energies and attentions away from the problems in their life and vent their anger on a Smaller and easily identified Group in Society, Ireland was a Bit short on black People at the time, So Jews were the next Demographic on the List

Brown Bomber

I think the distinction needs to be made between International Jewry and regular Jewish folk who are the ones who actually suffered.

International Jewry declared war on Germany before Hitler was fuhrer.



http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/jewishwar.cfm

During the American Civil War Ulysees S. Grant evicted Jews from areas under his control because they were the carpet baggers.

General Order No. 11 decreed as follows:

1. The Jews, as a class violating every regulation of trade established by the Treasury Department and also department orders, are hereby expelled from the Department [of the Tennessee] within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order.
2. Post commanders will see to it that all of this class of people be furnished passes and required to leave, and any one returning after such notification will be arrested and held in confinement until an opportunity occurs of sending them out as prisoners, unless furnished with permit from headquarters.
3. No passes will be given these people to visit headquarters for the purpose of making personal application of trade permits.[6]

In a letter of the same date sent to Christopher Parsons Wolcott, the assistant United States Secretary of War, Grant explained his reasoning:

Sir,

I have long since believed that in spite of all the vigilance that can be infused into Post Commanders, that the Specie regulations of the Treasury Dept. have been violated, and that mostly by Jews and other unprincipled traders. So well satisfied of this have I been at this that I instructed the Commdg Officer at Columbus [Kentucky] to refuse all permits to Jews to come south, and frequently have had them expelled from the Dept. [of the Tennessee]. But they come in with their Carpet sacks in spite of all that can be done to prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged class that can travel any where. They will land at any wood yard or landing on the river and make their way through the country. If not permitted to buy Cotton themselves they will act as agents for someone else who will be at a Military post, with a Treasury permit to receive Cotton and pay for it in Treasury notes which the Jew will buy up at an agreed rate, paying gold.

There is but one way that I know of to reach this case. That is for Government to buy all the Cotton at a fixed rate and send it to Cairo, St Louis, or some other point to be sold. Then all traders, they are a curse to the Army, might be expelled.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Order_No._11_%281862%29#cite_note-marcus-6

These are the first two I looked into. I would speculate there are similar semi-reasons in most cases if I were to go through the full list. Not that ethnic cleansing, genocide or collective punishment is excusable under any circumstances just that there is no smoke without fire. Even today Gordon Thomas, author of Gideon's Spies puts the worldwide figure of sayanim at 1,000,000. Diaspora Jews who work in conjunction with Mossad aiding Mossad intelligence operations in the countries that they are citizens of.

brianthelion

I wonder how he managed to the top the poll everytime for so long,I guess somebody liked him.Here comes Oliver J.................

There goes Flanagan

profitius

yekahS wrote: »

Who or what did he want to protect us from?

He didn't want the country to end up like it is now where theres elites who control everything. He saw what was coming.

enfant terrible wrote: »

Then tell me why I'm wrong why were Jews persecuted throughout history?

Obviously they were doing things people didn't like.

If people really hated the Jews just for being different they wouldn't have allowed them into their country in the first place or done any business with them.

profitius

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Except thats one individual, you can't typify an entire race for the same reason. Its a different context involving different variables: politics/religion/social identity etc. The analogy falls apart in the leap from the individual case to a socio historical situation.

If they act with a group mentality you certainly can.

nyarlothothep wrote:

Strange though that black people aren't mentioned, did they bring it on themselves too? Did the Irish ask to be colonised, killed by the thousands by Cromwell? Did native americans invite massacre? And under what pretexts? Stupidity, primitivism or just being inferior? Or maybe it was none of the above. Maybe its because you have aggressors who will seek to persecute others who are different or weaker than they are, or for profit, or power or a narcissistic need to feel superior?

Flanagan doesn't mention any other race or does he?

I think the rest of your post there is going off topic.

nyarlothothep

profitius wrote: »

If they act with a group mentality you certainly can.



Flanagan doesn't mention any other race or does he?

I think the rest of your post there is going off topic.

Yeah except stating that a race/nation=this personality in terms of the national/racial psyche has largely been discredited in the social sciences because it fails to account for variables which run contrary to such assertions.

Flanagan doesn't mention any other race but the impetus for mentioning jews the way in which he did derives from a common source, namely bigotry.

As for Ireland it fcking sucked 50 years ago and was still ruled by elites. Its still a dump ruled by elites but a much more liberal and comfortable one.

Monty Burnz

profitius wrote: »

He didn't want the country to end up like it is now where theres elites who control everything. He saw what was coming.

Do you think elites are a new thing? When do you think has been the most democratic period in - say - the last 2000 years?

profitius wrote: »

Obviously they were doing things people didn't like.

If people really hated the Jews just for being different they wouldn't have allowed them into their country in the first place or done any business with them.

I think it's pretty straightforward to be honest - Jewish people were obliged to be literate to study the Torah. This meant that they had a huge business advantage over their mostly illiterate competition. Their success bred envy then, as it does today, and the meme of the sneaky, scheming Jew was born. It doesn't mean that it was ever based in fact.

K-9

profitius wrote: »

He didn't want the country to end up like it is now where theres elites who control everything. He saw what was coming.



Obviously they were doing things people didn't like.

If people really hated the Jews just for being different they wouldn't have allowed them into their country in the first place or done any business with them.

Flanagan himself was part of the elite in this country, that's what people are missing here.

He would have been the same social conservative Catholic as DeVelera and FF, Costello and FG.

If you want to pick somebody who opposed the elite, I'd say Noel Browne is your man.

Noël Browne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

profitius

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Yeah except stating that a race/nation=this personality in terms of the national/racial psyche has largely been discredited in the social sciences because it fails to account for variables which run contrary to such assertions.

Such as?

Flanagan doesn't mention any other race but the impetus for mentioning jews the way in which he did derives from a common source, namely bigotry.

Thats entirely your opinion and you're entitled to it. I prefer to see proof but thats just me.

As for Ireland it fcking sucked 50 years ago and was still ruled by elites. Its still a dump ruled by elites but a much more liberal and comfortable one.

Your opinion again. There was more equality in the old days. Times were tougher but people were happier back then.

profitius

K-9 wrote: »

Flanagan himself was part of the elite in this country, that's what people are missing here.

He would have been the same social conservative Catholic as DeVelera and FF, Costello and FG.

If you want to pick somebody who opposed the elite, I'd say Noel Browne is your man.

Noël Browne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well maybe he had access to information normal people didn't/doesn't.

profitius

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Do you think elites are a new thing? When do you think has been the most democratic period in - say - the last 2000 years?


I think it's pretty straightforward to be honest - Jewish people were obliged to be literate to study the Torah. This meant that they had a huge business advantage over their mostly illiterate competition. Their success bred envy then, as it does today, and the meme of the sneaky, scheming Jew was born. It doesn't mean that it was ever based in fact.

Its not straightforward its a highly simplistic explanation. Theres no doubt that Jewish people value education more than any other people but it doesn't explain Zionism etc. And there are even Jewish groups opposed to that because they say it gives them a bad name!

Monty Burnz

profitius wrote: »

Its not straightforward its a highly simplistic explanation. Theres no doubt that Jewish people value education more than any other people but it doesn't explain Zionism etc. And there are even Jewish groups opposed to that because they say it gives them a bad name!

I wasn't trying to explain Zionism, I was trying to explain anti-Semitism. Do you think that Zionism (if it even existed before the 19th century) explains 20 centuries or more of anti-Semitism?

Monty Burnz

profitius wrote: »

Your opinion again. There was more equality in the old days. Times were tougher but people were happier back then.

And in what sense was there more equality? Exactly when was this golden age?

I take it that you were there?

(apologies for all the questions, but the answers will be revealing )

K-9

profitius wrote: »

Well maybe he had access to information normal people didn't/doesn't.

Maybe. Tbh, the Jews just seem to be one of a litany of groups he attacked.

nyarlothothep

profitius wrote: »

Such as?



Thats entirely your opinion and you're entitled to it. I prefer to see proof but thats just me.



Your opinion again. There was more equality in the old days. Times were tougher but people were happier back then.

Competing discourses as to what defines an ethnic identity for one. Another would be the changing attitudes of each successive generation. For example what constitutes Irishness has changed over many years. Whereas before it may have been to be catholic, agrarian or whatever now its a lot more complex, it could still be this among certain quarters although now you have associations with aethism, corporate greed, materialism and social liberalism with emergent groups. The national psyche is different to what it was in the 50s/60s/70s and for the most part better. Similarly Jewish identity became reinforced after the sacking of Israel but you have many different types of jewish identity depending on geography and culture.

wiki wrote:

However, the validity of the idea of a "national psychology" has been strongly criticized, both for political/moral and scientific reasons.

* Politically and morally, because it is conducive to racist generalisations about people, i.e. arbitrary discrimination between people in accordance with some prejudice or personal interest, which obstructs the acceptance of people as they are. For example, "Africans are lazy", "the Dutch are stingy", "Americans are greedy", "the French are romantic" "the Pakistanis are terrorists" etc. National chauvinism may lead directly to ascriptive discrimination against foreigners, meaning that one's own people are regarded as naturally superior, and foreigners inferior, rather than just different in some respects.

* Scientifically, because it is in reality very difficult to describe and generalise about ethnic differences in a valid and objective way. What applies to a nationality may not apply at all to an individual who is part of that nation. Insofar as the generalizations and distinctions drawn are valid, they may be too general, or require too many qualifications, to be useful.

Part of the problem is that researchers usually interpret another culture from the point of view of the culture they are used to (regarded as "normal"). Even if many people in a country share a common psychological or biological characteristic, other people in that country may not share that characteristic at all. The important ways in which people differ may outweigh the common characteristics which they can all be proved to share.

Psychologists have found in research that when subjects are asked to identify the ethnicity or nationality by observing a line-up of different people, they cannot accurately recognize what their ethnicity is. Marketing and Media experts have found that at most people can identify a representative stereotype, archetype or caricature which symbolises a particular ethnic group, or characteristic ways of relating which a nation has.

Two additional complications are, that:

* the mentality of a nation may change over time, through shared experiences, and therefore that the characteristics which are thought to be "typical" of a nation may change over time. In modern society, often the young generation no longer identifies with the ways of the old generation, including their ideas of national identity and norms.

* large-scale international migration of peoples from different nations means that immigrants take on part of the habits and culture of the country to which they move, while also retaining part of their original culture. In this way, different national cultures are merged and a new culture may be formed which has no clear "national" identification. This, together with the growth of international tourism, also means that people in one country increasingly adopt customs and habits from other countries, so that a nationally distinctive culture declines.

Because of all these difficulties in defining national psychology, often the most insightful portrayals of it are not really "scientific", but are found rather in the metaphors of fiction, for example in novels and films. These can gives insight into the "typical" emotional and intellectual world of a people, without pretending to apply to all its members.

I think its fairly obvious that Flannagan was a bigot in the way in which he was singling out a particular race for the worlds ills.

Yeah it is my opinion that Ireland has improved and I'm glad for it. I can speak freely about religion (disregarding the blasphemy law), I have better living conditions, I live in a more cosmopolitan openminded society with different cultural influences. Corporal punishment no longer exists, people can divorce. I prefer this to the theocratic state that existed 50 years ago, with institutional abuses ignored due to the power of religious orders. I admit there are major problems with Ireland, which need to be addressed, but overall I think the country has improved.

Mahatma coat

I know this may seem a bit Strange to you Narlo but Sometimes people Get Singled out BECAUSE of the things they do.

the Jew has a Historry of being Persecuted for Specific things, yet they keep doing them