White aeroplane trails all over the sky

Mr Plough

I believe this is the most irrefutable evidence of the existence of chem-trails to date, so I felt it deserved a fresh thread rather than be hidden on page 47 of some other dormant, tired old thread.

I'm not saying they are poisoning us to kill us make us weak, ill, stupid and scared. Perhaps it's weather modification and they are using healthy natural substances.

I am saying that something is being sprayed in the sky and we are not being informed what they are spraying, we are not being asked permission and we are not given access to test results which show that the chemicals being sprayed are safe.

Intuition tells me.. Since it took "truthers" and "conspiracy theorists" to expose this phenomenon and the masses were not considered prior to putting this spraying into action that it is not safe or good for us.

Meteorology: Evergreen Aviation Admits to Chemtrail Contracts with USAF.Contrails or chemtrails.

Contrails (short for "condensation trails") or vapour trails are artificial clouds that are the visible trails of condensed water vapour made by the exhaust of aircraft engines. As the hot exhaust gases cool in the surrounding air they may precipitate a cloud of microscopic water droplets. If the air is cold enough, this trail will comprise tiny ice crystals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au6i1Gi2sko

Esel

This is the Wikipedia link you want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

Mr Plough

Thats not what I was looking for, but thanks for giving me the opportunity to repost.

This is what I was looking for, and found, without your... help, prior to your... intervention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au6i1Gi2sko

bobsoice23

wow strange how they zig zag across eachother like that..it would suggest they're not caused by planes unless that's a particulary busy flyzone.This is the first I've heard of these chemtrails..could you tell me what you think there purpose is?

Mr Plough

bobsoice23 wrote: »

wow strange how they zig zag across eachother like that..it would suggest they're not caused by planes unless that's a particulary busy flyzone.This is the first I've heard of these chemtrails..could you tell me what you think there purpose is?

I am afraid not. I live in Clonsilla, Dublin. I witness these trails every day. It's amazing how little people look up at the sky.
I'm not gonna school you. Google contrails and chemtrails.

Mr Plough

Start screaming chemtrail, at the average human walking down the street and they'll not have a clue what your talking about.

Say "White aeroplane trails all over the sky", and you'll attract attention.

bobsoice23

Certainly interesting...but you say it's anti global warming...surely that's a good thing..but on the other hand you say they might have a negative affect on us when we breath it in,it's a little vague.Whats there purpose and who do you think are behind it?

Skuxx

So are you saying that these A/C are fitted with some sort of a bottle filled with chemicals? I can assure you there is nothing to worry about that the vapour trails are nothing more then water!! I'm an aircraft mechanic, when a plane lands it's our job to give it a once over before it takes off again and I've never found any mysterious bottles of poisen under an engine cowel or in an APU compartment!! And I could pretty much tell you the function of every button in the cockpit, and there's none to start the poison sprayer!!!

rugbyman

Ah yes Alan,
thats because the little bottles of poison are made from a self destruct plastic , seconds after they are empty they self destruct, in a no noise , no flash ,no residue way. I am not exactly sue of the triggering mechanism, something to do with Sellafield.


regards, Rugbyman

Skuxx

rugbyman wrote: »

Ah yes Alan,
thats because the little bottles of poison are made from a self destruct plastic , seconds after they are empty they self destruct, in a no noise , no flash ,no residue way. I am not exactly sue of the triggering mechanism, something to do with Sellafield.


regards, Rugbyman

Ahh yes of course!! And do you mind me asking how these little self destructing poison filled bombs get into the engines?

Mr Plough

alan1990 wrote: »

So are you saying that these A/C are fitted with some sort of a bottle filled with chemicals? I can assure you there is nothing to worry about that the vapour trails are nothing more then water!! I'm an aircraft mechanic, when a plane lands it's our job to give it a once over before it takes off again and I've never found any mysterious bottles of poisen under an engine cowel or in an APU compartment!! And I could pretty much tell you the function of every button in the cockpit, and there's none to start the poison sprayer!!!

And you being an all round know it all.. have you worked on one of these..

Is there a button in the cockpit to turn on and off the condensation trail behind the AEROPLANE your so familiar with ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28dQaaLQGQ

Mr Plough

Tell me that even an aircraft mechanic can see spray from the wings. Can you see that ?

Not laughing now mr mechanic eah ?

Mr Plough

So, again, this is what the sky looks like, (when you look up) after these planes do a few laps.

Question is not, are they spraying, it's, what are they spraying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au6i1Gi2sko

Skuxx

Mr Plough wrote: »

And you being an all round know it all.. have you worked on one of these..

Is there a button in the cockpit to turn on and off the condensation trail behind the AEROPLANE your so familiar with

No there isn't a button because it's a natural reaction between the exhaust gas and the freezing cold surrounding air! Much like the white vapour from your car exhaust on cold winter mornings!
Can you post a link to some rock solid scientific proof that there are chemicals streaming out the back of a/c as appoused to condensation which could be simulated with little effort in any lab!
I'm not trying to be a know it all, I'm just using my experience to counter your argument!

rugbyman

alan1990 wrote: »

Ahh yes of course!! And do you mind me asking how these little self destructing poison filled bombs get into the engines?

three possible answers here,

A We are still doing research on that

B We know, but cannot divulge

C teams of Korean trained, Maoists, (lefties) have been secreted into workforces some years ago . their skin colours have been pigmented, accents aquired etc, they can go under the names of Tommy,Jim, Clive, Stuart.
A bleep on their smartphones and they know what is expected of them.

Rugbyman,
porridge in, maybe a bit of toast now, and delve into Area 47.

Skuxx

rugbyman wrote: »

three possible answers here,

A We are still doing research on that

B We know, but cannot divulge

C teams of Korean trained, Maoists, (lefties) have been secreted into workforces some years ago . their skin colours have been pigmented, accents aquired etc, they can go under the names of Tommy,Jim, Clive, Stuart.
A bleep on their smartphones and they know what is expected of them.

Rugbyman,
porridge in, maybe a bit of toast now, and delve into Area 47.

Super, thanks for clearing that up! I must play a game of spot the little Korean terrorist so tomorrow!

Mr Plough

alan1990 wrote: »

No there isn't a button because it's a natural reaction between the exhaust gas and the freezing cold surrounding air! Much like the white vapour from your car exhaust on cold winter mornings!
Can you post a link to some rock solid scientific proof that there are chemicals streaming out the back of a/c as appoused to condensation which could be simulated with little effort in any lab!
I'm not trying to be a know it all, I'm just using my experience to counter your argument!

I could be a dickhead and counter argue your counter argument and say.. have you got rock solid proof it's not happening ? because if you dont, you dont have a leg to stand on. It is a possibility.

Fact is.. I do have rock solid proof that they spray the skies for over 50 years.

A few taps on a few keys brings me to this...

Interesting part is on the right hand side (view all clients and projects).

http://www.weathermodification.com/

Mr Plough

So, your argument will change from...

"it's a natural reaction between the exhaust gas and the freezing cold surrounding air!"

to..

Uhh, the stuff they are spraying isn't harmful to humans or the environment. Right ?

Mr Plough

We have established that they are spraying chemicals into the atmosphere ?

Mr Plough

Come on Mr Aeroplane mechanic... Cant believe you didn't know this, thought you had top security clearance. jaysus...:P

Don't feel defeated. You gain from this.

Sometimes when you win.
you really lose.



Sometimes when you lose.
you really win.



Sometimes when you win
or lose. you actually tie.



Sometimes when you tie.
you actually win or lose.

Mr Plough

National hero Jimbo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A87Mqo_yDV4

Skuxx

Mr Plough wrote: »

So, your argument will change from...

"it's a natural reaction between the exhaust gas and the freezing cold surrounding air!"

to..

Uhh, the stuff they are spraying isn't harmful to humans or the environment. Right ?

Haha no! Can you explain how the chemicals get onto the a/c, how they are set off and where the empty canisters go??

Mr Plough

alan1990 wrote: »

Haha no! Can you explain how the chemicals get onto the a/c, how they are set off and where the empty canisters go??

Ha ha, you got balls kid..

I aint the plane mechanic. Now you are denying what you see with you own eyes ?

Crazy how deep it goes.

Few hours you gonna be crying to your friends and family bout this....

Mr Plough

Oh look...

Chemtrailing got banned.. I wonder if the U.N banned chemtrails or if they banned no chemtrails that dont exist.

NAGOYA, Japan – In a landmark consensus decision, the 193-member UN Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) will close its tenth biennial meeting with a de facto moratorium on geoengineering projects and experiments. “Any private or public experimentation or adventurism intended to manipulate the planetary thermostat will be in violation of this carefully crafted UN consensus,” stated Silvia Ribeiro, Latin American Director of ETC Group.

http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/un-votes-to-ban-chemtrails/

Obviously... I mean really obviously someone was trying to manipulate the planetary thermostat...

I wonder if this has anything to do with all the freaky weather he been having, I mean.. manipulating the planetary thermostat, lol, thats gonna cause some problems. Earth and nature has a very fine balance, it's one thing sucking the oil from mother earth, destroying her crust but now we are poisoning her air. It's in plain sight, proven, yet folk refuse to accept it.

Skuxx

Mr Plough wrote: »

Ha ha, you got balls kid..

I aint the plane mechanic. Now you are denying what you see with you own eyes ?

Crazy how deep it goes.

Few hours you gonna be crying to your friends and family bout this....

Haha fair enough, with thouse pictures maybe you have something to go on, although we don't get to many of them landing in Shannon.

Skuxx

Oh, theres no need for the PM trying to get me to publically admit I'm wrong, show me the evidence to back up what your saying and I'd gladly hold me hands up and back down!!

Mr Plough

Anything to ad Alan ? Don't look at your spanner for inspiration bud, it's let you down already.

I notice you sidekick rugbyman legged it, some wingman he is. probably got to complicated for him..

Anyway, don't mention any of this stuff to the lads, you'll be ridiculed, Keep your mouth shut and forget about it. Stick your head back in the sand.

Owen

Oh FFS, that last photo is from a Discovery channel documentary about the build of the A380. When they were test flying it, they couldn't have the weight of people and cargo inside for health and safety reasons, so to simulate the weight they used containers of water.

And people saying 'I have hard proof', no you don't. You have teh internets. Hard Proof would be you getting away from your computer, with your camera, and physically investigating a plane you think is causing chemtrails. Being able to use google isn't proof, or evidence.

Mr Plough

alan1990 wrote: »

Oh, theres no need for the PM trying to get me to publically admit I'm wrong, show me the evidence to back up what your saying and I'd gladly hold me hands up and back down!!

I didn't want to embarrass you in public, but since you dont mind....
You said they wernt spraying.. I schooled you on that. You didnt admit you were wrong.

You said it was atmospheric pressure/ temperature causing the on/off effect. You were wrong. You didnt hold your hands up to that.

Mr Plough

PaintDoctor wrote: »

Oh FFS, that last photo is from a Discovery channel documentary about the build of the A380. When they were test flying it, they couldn't have the weight of people and cargo inside for health and safety reasons, so to simulate the weight they used containers of water.

And people saying 'I have hard proof', no you don't. You have teh internets. Hard Proof would be you getting away from your computer, with your camera, and physically investigating a plane you think is causing chemtrails. Being able to use google isn't proof, or evidence.

Have you got evidence it's not happening ?

If not, your in the same boat as me.

Think.

Mr Plough

Ummm, and the article about the U.N banning chemtrailing....

You dont think thats evidence ? lol


Here it is again in case you missed it....:D

NAGOYA, Japan – In a landmark consensus decision, the 193-member UN Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) will close its tenth biennial meeting with a de facto moratorium on geoengineering projects and experiments. “Any private or public experimentation or adventurism intended to manipulate the planetary thermostat will be in violation of this carefully crafted UN consensus,” stated Silvia Ribeiro, Latin American Director of ETC Group.

http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/un-votes-to-ban-chemtrails/

Mr Plough

I shouldn't have told you to "think"... not doing myself any favors there.. What if you take that on board... oh it's ok, you provided no proof that chemtrailing is not happening and I provided loads of proof that it is.

I suppose I win this debate...

Mr Plough

ok .. so in a nut shell.

The U.N banned chemtrails.
http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/un-votes-to-ban-chemtrails/

And we have a website stating the have been spraying into the athmospher for 50 + years.
http://www.weathermodification.com/projects.php

And we have
Evergreen Aviation Admits to Chemtrail Contracts with USAF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igFH0pAlcGY

And we can see it with our own eyes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28dQaaLQGQ

Dont make me search for the documents released from the British whoever under the freedom of info act, which state the sprayed chemicals over certain counties in England with out the knowledge of the people.

You think they sprayed the masses once, obviously without their permission, but wouldnt do it again ? in a new test ? a new chemical ?

Mr Plough

Alan ? Where'd you go bro ?

Robus

Mr Plough wrote: »

Thats not what I was looking for, .........., without your... help, prior to your... intervention.

Mr Plough wrote: »

I'm not gonna school you. .

Mr Plough wrote: »

And you being an all round know it all..

Mr Plough wrote: »

Not laughing now mr mechanic eah ?

Mr Plough wrote: »

Come on Mr Aeroplane mechanic... Don't feel defeated. .....

Mr Plough wrote: »

Ha ha, you got balls kid..

I can't imagine what Mr. Plough would sound like if he felt strongly about this subject. Perhaps one of the other Mr. men.

kippy

Wouldnt the BEST place to start this topic be in the "aviation and aircraft" forum, to bring some level of expertise/science into the equation?
There are plenty pilots and guys who work in aviation over there who would be more than happy to clear up the theory that commercial passenger jets are spraying intentionally harmful substances of random tracts of various populations when there are far easier and more efficient dispersal methods......

Monty Burnz

Mr Plough wrote: »

Tell me that even an aircraft mechanic can see spray from the wings. Can you see that ?

Not laughing now mr mechanic eah ?

You do know that the amount of vapour in the atmosphere varies from place to place, and the termperature of the air and so forth? Plus the loading of the wings and the amount of thrust the engines are putting out?

Monty Burnz

Mr Plough wrote: »

Fact is.. I do have rock solid proof that they spray the skies for over 50 years.

If you have rock-solid proof, why don't you show it to us instead of talking mysteriously about it all the time?

Monty Burnz

PaintDoctor wrote: »

Oh FFS, that last photo is from a Discovery channel documentary about the build of the A380. When they were test flying it, they couldn't have the weight of people and cargo inside for health and safety reasons, so to simulate the weight they used containers of water.

Its funny how some people post photos without any context to back up their argument. It seems little dishonest in my view.

Monty Burnz

Mr Plough wrote: »

Have you got evidence it's not happening ?

I claim that there is a china teapot in orbit around planet earth. Can you prove that there is not?

Monty Burnz

kippy wrote: »

Wouldnt the BEST place to start this topic be in the "aviation and aircraft" forum, to bring some level of expertise/science into the equation?
There are plenty pilots and guys who work in aviation over there who would be more than happy to clear up the theory that commercial passenger jets are spraying intentionally harmful substances of random tracts of various populations when there are far easier and more efficient dispersal methods......

Waste of time Kippy. I've told them to ask the basic questions at the aviation board several times, so at least the easy stuff could be cleared up. Whatever might be left would then merit more serious investigation But I was told that 'they are in on it' or something similar. I was also accused of being with 'them'. :rolleyes:

amacachi

Mr Plough wrote: »

Ummm, and the article about the U.N banning chemtrailing....

You dont think thats evidence ? lol


Here it is again in case you missed it....:D






http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/un-votes-to-ban-chemtrails/

I'm pretty sure it's not allowed to launch nuclear weapons in space, it's called pre-empting.

kippy

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Waste of time Kippy. I've told them to ask the basic questions at the aviation board several times, so at least the easy stuff could be cleared up. Whatever might be left would then merit more serious investigation But I was told that 'they are in on it' or something similar. I was also accused of being with 'them'. :rolleyes:

Is it possible that the answers you received did not back up the theory?

Monty Burnz

kippy wrote: »

Is it possible that the answers you received did not back up the theory?

I think you misunderstand - I told the 'there are definitely chemtrails because of x' people on this board to ask their questions on the aviation board, to see if 'x' was a normal, easily explained thing. I don't think any of them bothered for some reason.

kippy

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I think you misunderstand - I told the 'there are definitely chemtrails because of x' people on this board to ask their questions on the aviation board, to see if 'x' was a normal, easily explained thing. I don't think any of them bothered for some reason.

Ah yes,
Sorry, I misunderstook.
Its possible the wouldnt like the answers they would receive from people who are in the industry.

daithiard

Out of cusiosity mr ploughman, are you saying that the vapour clouds are SOLELY chemicals being pumped out by planes?

daithiard

Oh and sorry about my spelling, it has never been my strong point

rugbyman

Hello again

whats this

"I notice you sidekick rugbyman legged it, some wingman he is. probably got to complicated for him.."

the world does not revolve around CT. T was a nice Sunday morn, just threw in a comment or two on the tree hugger forum, grassy knoll lot etc.

there were other things to do , check out the hang seng index , go up town ,shoot the breeze over coffee with those in the know.

those were nice pics of the water carrying airbus, and see those guys in yellow "dont knock me down " jackets, they cannot be anything else but council workers, so they are involved also, this gets deeper, freemasons must be behind this.

Rugbyman

Dazza Mc kenna

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55019826@N07/5421809314/ Pic in North Dublin dunno if its related ? but it was weird, Ive never seen anything like it before

Monty Burnz

Dazza Mc kenna wrote: »

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55019826@N07/5421809314/ Pic in North Dublin dunno if its related ? but it was weird, Ive never seen anything like it before

Yup. That's the evidence for chemtrails. Pretty conclusive, no?

Esel

H2O is a chemical. I prefer to call them ahemtrails.