Should a Psychic Give Very Bad New?

Shazanne

Should a psychic give a person really bad news - as in telling them they have cancer? A friend of mine went to one the other night and was told that and now she is terrified. And a doctor wont take you seriously if you go looking for tests because a psychic told you do. And tests like MRI's etc cost a fortune that she does not have.
This girls life is in tatters at the moment. Cancer was the last thing on her mind as she is in perfect health.
What should she do - we really need advice on this.

albeit

Does she have any symptoms at all? If she has any she should speak to her doctor about them and not say anything about a psychic having advised her she had cancer. She may also tell the doctor if there is any family history of cancer. If there is no symptoms or family history I am afraid she will have to foot the bill herself or try to ignore the fact a fortune teller told her this. She may also start to look out for any symptoms that may appear in the near future. Sometimes fortunetellers are wrong whowever and there may not be any truth in this. I personally wouldnt say to a client (if I practised fortunetelling) that they have cancer, I would rather ask if they had any of the symptoms and say they should have them checked.

Shazanne

She does not have any symptoms whatsoever. But then again the psychic did not specify where the cancer is supposed to be so she is imagining all sorts. And, to the best of my knowledge, there is no single test to detect cancer.
What this pshchic has said has completely upset our lives and she is absolutely terrified. I realise that someone on here will probably say that if she has cancer she will be eternally grateful for being told to have herself checked out, but if she doesn't, just think of the suffering that has been caused.

albeit

The fortuneteller should have been able to tell what kind of cancer it was.Tell your friend to keep vigilant for any sort of symptoms- for example check for lumps in her breasts. Maybe she has cancer, maybe she hasnt. I'd say it was irresponsible for the fortuneteller to say this, when she wasnt able to give more info.

zuroph

burn the fortunetellers house down to break the curse. :pac:

Terrible thing to say to anyone, I wonder what your friend did to annoy the FT.

celtic1888

Shazanne wrote: »

Should a psychic give a person really bad news - as in telling them they have cancer? A friend of mine went to one the other night and was told that and now she is terrified. And a doctor wont take you seriously if you go looking for tests because a psychic told you do. And tests like MRI's etc cost a fortune that she does not have.
This girls life is in tatters at the moment. Cancer was the last thing on her mind as she is in perfect health.
What should she do - we really need advice on this.

who was the psychic??

MagicMarker

albeit wrote: »

Sometimes fortunetellers are wrong whowever and there may not be any truth in this.

Understatement of the century right.

OP, the psycho psychic is full of shít. Tell your friend to cop on.

AO33156

The psychic is full of ****. They have no way of diagnosing illnesses or anything else for that matter. It is completely out of order to give people that sort of information.

Tell your friend to cop on and pay no notice of psychics or other mumbo jumbo. If she believes she has a health problem, she should visit a doctor.

Oryx

No. A psychic should never say anything like that. They arent a doctor, and its a totally irresponsible thing to say to anyone. Bear in mind psychics can be wrong!

Shazanne

The logical part of my mind knows all that - but it doesn't really help in this case. This girl is perfectly healthy (as far as we know) but this psychic has told her she has cancer. If anyone tells a person that it will freak them out.
I just dont know what to do or say to help her at this time. She is going to the Doctor for blood tests and a smear test this week. But I just feel that no matter what she does this is going to play on her mind and it's totally ruining her life at the moment.

zuroph

If you want I'll pose as a psychic and tell her the other psychic is a liar.

The beauty of it is, I dont even need an excuse to contact her, I can just say it came to me in a dream, and that I felt compelled to call her to comfort her.

Shazanne

I'm glad for you that you find this so amusing. I don't necessarily believe what psychics say either, but that doesn't make this particular case any easier for her.
Unfortunately, this particular psychic was uncannily accurate in almost everything else that was said to her - some of which was actually rather amazing. Had this not happened it may not have had such an impact on her.
Whether you believe in psychics or not, if one tells you that you have cancer it's going to cause you to worry. It's almost like if you meet someone who tells you that you don't look well and you begin to wonder if you are. It plays on the mind.
I feel it was highly irresponsible for a psychic to tell a person this and I just wondered if others feel the same, if others have possibly had the same experience or what we should do in this situation?

zuroph

I was dead serious.

Oryx

Psychics like that make my blood boil. They dont care or consider the power they have over people and the damage their words do. I was also told today of a psychic who said to a sitter they were going to have two suicides in their family. Even if it WAS true, why on earth would you tell someone that? So they can stress till it happens? Or for years anyway when it doesnt?

In your friends case I recommend getting her to go to her doctor and telling them the full story. The doc wont laugh, and perhaps some reassurance from a medical professional will go some way to undoing the damage.

28064212

Oryx wrote: »

Psychics like that make my blood boil. They dont care or consider the power they have over people and the damage their words do. I was also told today of a psychic who said to a sitter they were going to have two suicides in their family. Even if it WAS true, why on earth would you tell someone that? So they can stress till it happens? Or for years anyway when it doesnt?

Because if the psychic knows it and believes it, it would be irresponsible not to tell them.

Oryx wrote: »

In your friends case I recommend getting her to go to her doctor and telling them the full story. The doc wont laugh, and perhaps some reassurance from a medical professional will go some way to undoing the damage.

Good advice, probably the best you're going to get OP

zuroph

its actually a fairly easy "prediction" to fall back on, given the prevalence of cancer, what is it, 1 in 3 over a lifetime now? 33% chance of a hit is pretty good, and if you're a little more vague and say something like "you will be affected by cancer this year", pretty much 100% hit

Oryx

28064212 wrote: »

Because if the psychic knows it and believes it, it would be irresponsible not to tell them.

I would disagree with you to a degree. A psychic can be a hell of a lot more careful in how they put something across. Tell her to get a checkup, without a halfassed vague diagnosis that helps noone. If the psychic is that sure, then pin it down to where it is, at least let the poor person rule it in or out simply. And no psychic should ever be so arrogant as to assume they are never wrong. Of course they can get it wrong.

28064212

Oryx wrote: »

I would disagree with you to a degree. A psychic can be a hell of a lot more careful in how they put something across. Tell her to get a checkup, without a halfassed vague diagnosis that helps noone.

And then live with the possibility that a doctor may not find it because they don't know what they're looking for? Not that being told by a psychic "it's very important you get a medical check-up" is any more reassuring than being told you have cancer. If a psychic believes that they have knowledge, it's their responsibility to impart it. If this psychic genuinely believes that the OP's friend has cancer, they should absolutely tell them

zuroph

28064212 wrote: »

And then live with the possibility that a doctor may not find it because they don't know what they're looking for? Not that being told by a psychic "it's very important you get a medical check-up" is any more reassuring than being told you have cancer. If a psychic believes that they have knowledge, it's their responsibility to impart it. If this psychic genuinely believes that the OP's friend has cancer, they should absolutely tell them

And there's the problem with the argument. There's no way they're certain. No way.

celtic1888

whos the psychic?!?!?! people on here have experience and may beable to shed some light on his/her predictions for them!! and remember the majority of psychics are full of sh#ite and cold/hot read to make the sitter believe they are brilliant...

Shazanne

I am a bit wary of giving the name to be honest. But if my friend gets the all-clear (which I pray she does) I will blow the lid on the psychic then - big time! Am even considering calling Joe Duffy or some such person to try and prevent anyone else being subjected to this.

celtic1888

Shazanne wrote: »

I am a bit wary of giving the name to be honest. But if my friend gets the all-clear (which I pray she does) I will blow the lid on the psychic then - big time! Am even considering calling Joe Duffy or some such person to try and prevent anyone else being subjected to this.

fair enough but tbh, its no big deal naming the person, plenty exchange their personal experiences on here and some can get clarity or direction from that...and remember, your friend went to see this person of her own accord, she should have told them she didnt want to hear bad news imo....its safer that way and pure 100% entertainment as they wont her things that will hurt them....

i see you were looking for Billys details on another thread, google the yukon bar mullingar and you'll get his number...but tbh hes brutally honest and WILL tell you the bad unless told not too, and i wouldnt recommend her to go see him, professional advice is what she needs to clean this mess up...this psychic could have helped save her life in reality too...imo theres more a chance of this psychic being a charlatan or even worse a header who believes they are psychic...imo genuinely gifted people are few and far between

pheasant tail

I slightly disagree what someone said here that a pschyic shouldnt give bad news,if your not prepared for bad news DONT GO or say to the pschic no bad news before hand!

Im friends with a girl and her and a group of friends went to a pschyic,and he told her that she'd have a close friend killed in a car accident,that friend unfortunately did die a few months later he had also been to the same pschyic and he told him he has brilliant future,marry,kids etc and ur boy thought it was total bull****,,in my opinion the pschyic knew but wouldnt say anything!!

28064212

zuroph wrote: »

And there's the problem with the argument. There's no way they're certain. No way.

I didn't say they're certain. I said they genuinely believe they're certain. If a psychic believes that they can "extra-sensorally" perceive a person's illness, why would they hide that information? Why is the 'good' stuff ok to tell but not the bad stuff?

Oryx

28064212 wrote: »

I didn't say they're certain. I said they genuinely believe they're certain. If a psychic believes that they can "extra-sensorally" perceive a person's illness, why would they hide that information? Why is the 'good' stuff ok to tell but not the bad stuff?

Quite simply because of the damage it can cause. The needless worry you can put someone through. It makes a reading more about sensationalism and point scoring than being helpful to a sitter. I have a lot of contact with people who get readings, and Ive seen a lot of worry and damage caused by negative readings. And I have yet to see anyone whose life has been improved by receiving such advice.

28064212

Oryx wrote: »

Quite simply because of the damage it can cause. The needless worry you can put someone through. It makes a reading more about sensationalism and point scoring than being helpful to a sitter.

That's only true if the reading is purely for entertainment purposes. The psychic in the OP is either a charlatan who ran out of ideas, mentally ill, or genuinely psychic. If it's the first case, then yes, they shouldn't have said it. If it's either of the latter two, they genuinely believed they had knowledge about the person in question, and it would be very irresponsible not to tell them

Oryx wrote: »

I have a lot of contact with people who get readings, and Ive seen a lot of worry and damage caused by negative readings. And I have yet to see anyone whose life has been improved by receiving such advice.

And plenty of 'good news' can damage someone's life. Getting told "you will pass your exams" before you've taken them isn't going to give you much motivation to actually study

Oryx

28064212 wrote: »

That's only true if the reading is purely for entertainment purposes. The psychic in the OP is either a charlatan who ran out of ideas, mentally ill, or genuinely psychic. If it's the first case, then yes, they shouldn't have said it. If it's either of the latter two, they genuinely believed they had knowledge about the person in question, and it would be very irresponsible not to tell them

Do you accept that in such circumstances the psychic can still be wrong?

And plenty of 'good news' can damage someone's life. Getting told "you will pass your exams" before you've taken them isn't going to give you much motivation to actually study

Im not talking about a psychic only giving details that are sunshine and roses. If they can see a suicide, why not use their ability to say who is struggling with depression and needs a family intervention, instead of just saying someone will die?

In a personal situation, I once asked the outcome of something difficult I was going through. I didnt get a reply telling me all would be ok, but I got a reply that helped. It indicated the steps I would have to take, rather than simply the good or bad outcome.

28064212

Oryx wrote: »

Do you accept that in such circumstances the psychic can still be wrong?

Yes. A doctor can be wrong too. All psychics come with a caveat that they're not perfect

Oryx wrote: »

Im not talking about a psychic only giving details that are sunshine and roses. If they can see a suicide, why not use their ability to say who is struggling with depression and needs a family intervention, instead of just saying someone will die?

That's assuming that psychic ability works like some sort of sixth-sense Google that they can query at will.

Hypothetically, assume that the psychic in the OP is real. They receive the information (through whatever means) that the OP's friend has cancer. That's all the information they receive. Their talents don't extend to finding any more information than that, but they believe that they know the OP's friend has cancer. How could you possibly not disclose that information?

celtic1888

celtic1888 wrote: »

fair enough but tbh, its no big deal naming the person, plenty exchange their personal experiences on here and some can get clarity or direction from that...and remember, your friend went to see this person of her own accord, she should have told them she didnt want to hear bad news imo....its safer that way and pure 100% entertainment as they wont her things that will hurt them....

i see you were looking for Billys details on another thread, google the yukon bar mullingar and you'll get his number...but tbh hes brutally honest and WILL tell you the bad unless told not too, and i wouldnt recommend her to go see him, professional advice is what she needs to clean this mess up...this psychic could have helped save her life in reality too...imo theres more a chance of this psychic being a charlatan or even worse a header who believes they are psychic...imo genuinely gifted people are few and far between

actually Shazanne

get the girl to go to Billy before she spends any major money on professional advice...if he tells her shes sick then tell her to get to a doctors pronto....if he dimisses it then id take that as a clean bill of health, because in all honestly a psychic diagnosis is horse sh#te and if another more renowned and tried and tested psychic gives the all clear then i would personally take that on board

recently a girl i know went to him and he told her that her father had recently been tested for an illness (she agreed) and he told her that he has the illness (the man found out the next week that he had cancer)

Monty Burnz

Shazanne wrote: »

Should a psychic give a person really bad news - as in telling them they have cancer?

If a psychic 'knows' you have cancer and doesn't tell you, surely that would be much worse? At least she can get treatment now that she 'knows'. And if she doesn't want to learn about her future, why is she paying to see a 'psychic'?

moceri

mumbo jumbo