Work Incident!! who do i stick up for !HELP!

reddevilfan

I was in the office today, it was about 5.10pm and my supervisor came in from on the field... I was on the phone and acknowledged him as he walked in....

As i finished my phone conversation!!!! He began to voice his strong worded opinion to the new receptionist....

He told her " you have no fnucking co-ordination skills etc and should buck up" in a rough manner with fingers pointing towards her.

She kept replying get out of my face ( which i recall was about 3 times) as he kept voicing his opinion of her work, before she lost it and told him to get stuffed and try do her job..

He laughed and replied to her " lovely can i have that in writing to give to the service manner" to which she replied go away andy...

He went upstairs and was obviously talking to our service manager,

The new receptionist left at closing and i stayed still testing a machine when my supervisor came back in after the rec left in a devasted state i might say, and said to me that the SM wanted to speak to me on monday about what happened....

I shook my shoulders and he said to me " did ya hear her, she had no right speaking to me like that dont ya think... To which i replied i dont want to know....

I got a hasty stamp and sigh, before he quoted me " You dont want to know.... Your just like funckin her.... and he marched towards the door...

I called him to ask what his problem was but he totally ignored me and jumped into the van and sped off..

So now im meeting my SM on monday and got to decide who was right... in my head i know who was right but if i pick the rec i know my life will be made drastically difficult...

Please help

epgc3fyqirnbsx

what would jesus do?

Aodan83

Sounds like a prick, fcuk him over.*







*Or don't, it's up to you.

easyeason3

You don't offer your opinion on who was right or tell the story to paint either one in a bad light.
Repeat what you heard & leave it at that.

brummytom

Sounds like Andy's on the blob

reddevilfan

Nathalia Faint Balance wrote: »

what would jesus do?

Thanks for that usless input slasher

epgc3fyqirnbsx

reddevilfan wrote: »

Thanks for that usless input slasher

Go with christ

Jaxxy

easyeason3 wrote: »

You don't offer your opinion on who was right or tell the story to paint either one in a bad light.
Repeat what you heard & leave it at that.

Yup, say what ya see.

meemeep

agree with the others, but write it down - very clearly - now, before you forget. Treat it like you are making a statement and make sure you mention the (possibly threatening )finger pointing.

Tubsandtiles

Kill him , or dont get involved.

BQQ

Simple. Just say you were on the phone and didn't hear what was said.


However, part of me wants to say:
"report him for bullying and say he tried to pressure you into backing him up" :mad:

reddevilfan

meemeep wrote: »

agree with the others, but write it down - very clearly - now, before you forget. Treat it like you are making a statement and make sure you mention the (possibly threatening )finger pointing.

Thanks!!! im sure thats a great idea better go do it now

El Weirdo

I think we're all missing the point here.

Is the receptionist hot?

sdanseo

Am I the only one who thinks you have your priorites a little wrong?


You should be offering that receptionist a nice shoulder to cry on



Serious answer: If getting the boss man's back up puts your job on the line, just repeat what happened and nothing more. If such a situation is inconeivable, and he acted just as you stated without any reason, hang him out to dry.

Of course there's always two people to every argument, is her work genuinely terrible - not that it excuses it but did he have a point?

LETHAL LADY

What a orrible unt throwing his weight around his behaviour is unacceptable and whilst there is probably not an awful lot you can do about it now keep a note of what happened for future reference.

hondasam

she sounds like she is well capable of looking after herself. boss sounds like a prick. you should take a leaf out of her book and tell him what you think.

CreepingDeath

Many years ago I was in a similar situation like this.

Just tell it as you saw it, don't offer any opinion on it.
At the end of my "debriefing" I was asked to give my opinion on whether it was bullying or not, and after sitting on the fence and not making a decision for a while, I eventually said 60%... slightly favouring bullying.

The guy got a slap on the wrist and a HR warning.

It's not gross misconduct, nobody is going to get fired, unless they have a history of this sort of thing and have had warnings already.

reddevilfan

Well he has been suspended for similar actions towards a customer and has also had a bad mouth towards me on more than 1 occasion..... its not just a once off he has been warned for road rage etc

orourkeda

reddevilfan wrote: »

I was in the office today, it was about 5.10pm and my supervisor came in from on the field... I was on the phone and acknowledged him as he walked in....

As i finished my phone conversation!!!! He began to voice his strong worded opinion to the new receptionist....

He told her " you have no fnucking co-ordination skills etc and should buck up" in a rough manner with fingers pointing towards her.

She kept replying get out of my face ( which i recall was about 3 times) as he kept voicing his opinion of her work, before she lost it and told him to get stuffed and try do her job..

He laughed and replied to her " lovely can i have that in writing to give to the service manner" to which she replied go away andy...

He went upstairs and was obviously talking to our service manager,

The new receptionist left at closing and i stayed still testing a machine when my supervisor came back in after the rec left in a devasted state i might say, and said to me that the SM wanted to speak to me on monday about what happened....

I shook my shoulders and he said to me " did ya hear her, she had no right speaking to me like that dont ya think... To which i replied i dont want to know....

I got a hasty stamp and sigh, before he quoted me " You dont want to know.... Your just like funckin her.... and he marched towards the door...

I called him to ask what his problem was but he totally ignored me and jumped into the van and sped off..

So now im meeting my SM on monday and got to decide who was right... in my head i know who was right but if i pick the rec i know my life will be made drastically difficult...

Please help

Kick him in the bollocks

CreepingDeath

reddevilfan wrote: »

Well he has been suspended for similar actions towards a customer and has also had a bad mouth towards me on more than 1 occasion..... its not just a once off he has been warned for road rage etc

Then nail him to the wall for such a bad attitude.

You might get a promotion to his job, and a ride out of the receptionist when you say how you stood up to your supervisor for her.

mickdw

reddevilfan wrote: »

Well he has been suspended for similar actions towards a customer and has also had a bad mouth towards me on more than 1 occasion..... its not just a once off he has been warned for road rage etc

Surely the answer is clear then, you tell it like it was and show him up as the bully that he is.

Xivilai

Tell it as it is... He treats people like crap.. A slap on the wrist is the least he deserves

orourkeda

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Then nail him to the wall for such a bad attitude.

You might get a promotion to his job, and a ride out of the receptionist when you say how you stood up to your supervisor for her.

I'd consider re-phrasing

easyeason3

reddevilfan wrote: »

Well he has been suspended for similar actions towards a customer and has also had a bad mouth towards me on more than 1 occasion..... its not just a once off he has been warned for road rage etc

Chances are he will ask you about what you will say or have said. Tell him the truth, that you repeated everything you heard but didn't sway in her favour or his. At the end of the day you will still have to work with him everyday & you don't want to get into a row with him.
I'm guessing he must be good at his job if they tolerate that off him but his boss would want to be careful. Bullying in the workplace is no joke & more people are willing to take it further if they feel they have a case.

And if the receptionist tries to start a bitching session about what happened tell her it's none of your business. It's too easy to get dragged into things like that.

Wolfe Tone

Follow him home and beat the **** out of him

orourkeda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE

dave1982

Well done to her taking no **** but telling him to "get stuffed":rolleyes:

punchdrunk

it sounds like his arse is the perfect height for kicking

Nuggles

I feel bad for the poor service manager having to listen to any of this.

Zen65

reddevilfan wrote: »

So now im meeting my SM on monday and got to decide who was right... in my head i know who was right but if i pick the rec i know my life will be made drastically difficult...

Please help

As others have said, you don't need to offer an opinion as to who was in the right or wrong. You can simply relate the story factually as you have done here. If you are asked whether you would consider it to be bullying, you can say that you are not trained to make that call, or you can just give your opinion. If you do, do so only in a matter-of-fact way, and don't embellish the statement by using adjectives to describe the "boss".

The Service Manager will not be annoyed with you expressing your opinion.

Be at peace,

Z

PS: I just realised this is AH, not PI. The correct answer was probably El Weirdo's

MistyCheese

There is but one way to resolve this conflict: A fight to the death. The winner gets the respect of his or her peers. And a coupon for a half-price malt at Eddie Rockets. The loser has to make the coffee for the whole office for the rest of the year. Which will hold many challenges due to their recent, unfortunate, inconvenient death.

reddevilfan

MistyCheese wrote: »

There is but one way to resolve this conflict: A fight to the death. The winner gets the respect of his or her peers. And a coupon for a half-price malt at Eddie Rockets. The loser has to make the coffee for the whole office for the rest of the year. Which will hold many challenges due to their recent, unfortunate, inconvenient death.

I hope your not the ref in this case :pac:

major bill

reddevilfan wrote: »

I was in the office today, it was about 5.10pm and my supervisor came in from on the field... I was on the phone and acknowledged him as he walked in....

As i finished my phone conversation!!!! He began to voice his strong worded opinion to the new receptionist....

He told her " you have no fnucking co-ordination skills etc and should buck up" in a rough manner with fingers pointing towards her.

She kept replying get out of my face ( which i recall was about 3 times) as he kept voicing his opinion of her work, before she lost it and told him to get stuffed and try do her job..

He laughed and replied to her " lovely can i have that in writing to give to the service manner" to which she replied go away andy...

He went upstairs and was obviously talking to our service manager,

The new receptionist left at closing and i stayed still testing a machine when my supervisor came back in after the rec left in a devasted state i might say, and said to me that the SM wanted to speak to me on monday about what happened....

I shook my shoulders and he said to me " did ya hear her, she had no right speaking to me like that dont ya think... To which i replied i dont want to know....

I got a hasty stamp and sigh, before he quoted me " You dont want to know.... Your just like funckin her.... and he marched towards the door...

I called him to ask what his problem was but he totally ignored me and jumped into the van and sped off..

So now im meeting my SM on monday and got to decide who was right... in my head i know who was right but if i pick the rec i know my life will be made drastically difficult...

Please help

grow a pair of balls and stick up for the rep...you know he was in the wrong so dont worm away and let her come off bad, tell the service manger how it is......i know we live in a recession and all but dont let pr1cks like that step all over you or your life will be sh1te anyway wherever ye go.

MistyCheese

reddevilfan wrote: »

I hope your not the ref in this case :pac:

Nope. I am the person selling tickets. Look out on Boards Deals for a 2-for-1 offer in the next few days.

Ricardo G

You could suggest a threesome, they help resolve all kinds of matters

reddevilfan

easyeason3 wrote: »

Chances are he will ask you about what you will say or have said. Tell him the truth, that you repeated everything you heard but didn't sway in her favour or his. At the end of the day you will still have to work with him everyday & you don't want to get into a row with him.
I'm guessing he must be good at his job if they tolerate that off him but his boss would want to be careful. Bullying in the workplace is no joke & more people are willing to take it further if they feel they have a case.

And if the receptionist tries to start a bitching session about what happened tell her it's none of your business. It's too easy to get dragged into things like that.

Best answer/response ive got thanks very much

Coriolanus

Tbh, all you need to do now is give the SM a link to this thread.

easyeason3

reddevilfan wrote: »

Best answer/response ive got thanks very much

Just call me Dr Phil :cool:

reddevilfan

Ricardo G wrote: »

You could suggest a threesome, they help resolve all kinds of matters

Can you not spoil the thread, if i wanted childish remarks i would post in the kiddy section.....

upandcumming

Hang him.

No need for that.

Holybejaysus

Play the only card you have in a no win situation like this: Claim that they both sexually harassed you at work. Management will fire the two of them and probably give you Andy's job for good measure....

SillyMcCarthy

Who will be giving you the yearly review?

Ricardo G

reddevilfan wrote: »

Can you not spoil the thread, if i wanted childish remarks i would post in the kiddy section.....

Oh right sorry about that, YOU DO REALISE THIS IS AFTER HOURS:rolleyes:
Anyway i would still suggest a threesome

yoursaviour1989

reddevilfan wrote: »

Can you not spoil the thread, if i wanted childish remarks i would post in the kiddy section.....

you didn't want childish remarks so you posted in AH

I'm actually a little perplexed as to how this thread hasn't gone completely off topic, well done everyone

oh and as for your problem, boss sounds like an asshole, make it clear to you SM

reddevilfan

yeah i know its here sorry, i was just looking for your taughts

Irishpimpdude

reddevilfan wrote: »

yeah i know its here sorry, i was just looking for your taughts

You should say you weren't paying attention because u were posting here and expecting to get nice replies.

480905

Chances are he'll ask you what you're going to say.... Tell him exactly what you heard and that he's a pr1ck for putting you in that position...Then ask him what the f''k he expected you to say....Then suggest he apologises to the girl straight away and see if that calms things down. But stick to your guns with him and let him have it for landing you in it...

RichieC

reddevilfan wrote: »

Please help

Sticking up for your boss could be a good career move, it's the pricks that do well.

LighterGuy

Welcome to human psychology 101

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reddevilfan wrote: »

......He began to voice his strong worded opinion to the new receptionist.... He told her " you have no fnucking co-ordination skills etc and should buck up" in a rough manner with fingers pointing towards her. She kept replying get out of my face ( which i recall was about 3 times) as he kept voicing his opinion of her work, before she lost it and told him to get stuffed and try do her job..He laughed and replied to her " lovely can i have that in writing to give to the service manner" to which she replied go away andy...

He doesnt like her.
Maybe he tried it on with her, maybe he just doesnt like the looks of her, moany git, whatever. He flat out dont like her for some personal reason.

reddevilfan wrote: »

He went upstairs and was obviously talking to our service manager,

... to hang her because he wants to ger her sacked.

reddevilfan wrote: »

when my supervisor came back in after the rec left in a devasted state i might say, and said to me that the SM wanted to speak to me on monday about what happened.... I shook my shoulders and he said to me " did ya hear her, she had no right speaking to me like that dont ya think... To which i replied i dont want to know.... I got a hasty stamp and sigh, before he quoted me " You dont want to know.... Your just like funckin her.... and he marched towards the door...

He went up to the service manager trying to get her sacked. Quoting what she said. Obviously questions follow, why she act like that? your as*hole of a supervisor lets slip what he said/what he incited. To be meet with the usual 'you cant be saying that!" ... S.M. says we'll deal with this on Monday. Your supervisor comes back down trying to get you on his side. you show an impartial gesture. He, in a roundabout way, says "f*ck you if you're not willing to back me"

jackie1974

That asshole is your text book bully so even if you don't defend the rep and she gets fired he's going to see you as his bitch, he'll think you didn't have the balls to go against him and take the piss out of you because of it. Putting that aside it's your duty to go with your instinct and defend the person you think is right. He acted like a total prick, throwing his weight around because the girl was new and he was seeing how much he could get away with. So make a stand for your own sake and hers and tell it how it was. In my experience when you stand up to a bully they find an easier target, good luck with whatever you decide.

Helix

tell the service manager you dont want to be involved because youre worried itll endanger your job

that should be enough to tell him that your boss obviously instigated it