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JS Dylan Haskins running for General Election in Dublin South East

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  • #62
    EuropeanSon
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    dannyc wrote: »
    this picture of haskins pretty much sums up the issue for me.

    he does have a lot of experience, and if he was running for head of the arts council i wouldn't think twice about giving my vote. but i don't see what in his cv should give him the right to cast a valuable vote on issues relating to defense, economics, health, or really anything not pertaining to the arts. just saying "i'll take a look at it when i get into office", or "i'm willing to listen to what people think should be done about the issues", while admirably open minded, doesn't in my opinion qualify someone for a role in determining the future of the irish state. in a lot of ways i think its pretty arrogant of him to think he's ready for such an important position without having the credentials of at least some junior position in the government to show that he can operate within the political system. i won't be voting for him this season.
    For f*ck sake, this country elected Joan Burton and Mary O'Rourke. Dylan Haskins cannot possibly be more useless, and so your point about him not being "qualif[ied] for a role in determining the future of the Irish state", when they are simply due to being older (despite their colossal incompetence), doesn't really hold up to much.
    I'm not saying I'd vote for him (I wouldn't), but to dismiss him as a viable candidate because of his age and not dismiss these people (and others) because of their absolute and total ineptitude seems a little odd, to me.


  • #63
    Tragedy
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    EuropeanSon wrote: »
    For f*ck sake, this country elected Joan Burton and Mary O'Rourke. Dylan Haskins cannot possibly be more useless, and so your point about him not being "qualif[ied] for a role in determining the future of the Irish state", when they are simply due to being older (despite their colossal incompetence), doesn't really hold up to much.
    I'm not saying I'd vote for him (I wouldn't), but to dismiss him as a viable candidate because of his age and not dismiss these people (and others) because of their absolute and total ineptitude seems a little odd, to me.


    "For f*ck sake", the poster is dismissing him as a viable candidate because of his age, inexperience and lack of any policy past "I did stuff before becoming a candidate so like obviously I'll do stuff as a TD if I get elected, right?"


  • #64
    feeder666
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    EuropeanSon wrote: »
    For f*ck sake, this country elected Joan Burton and Mary O'Rourke. Dylan Haskins cannot possibly be more useless, and so your point about him not being "qualif[ied] for a role in determining the future of the Irish state", when they are simply due to being older (despite their colossal incompetence), doesn't really hold up to much.
    I'm not saying I'd vote for him (I wouldn't), but to dismiss him as a viable candidate because of his age and not dismiss these people (and others) because of their absolute and total ineptitude seems a little odd, to me.

    oh **** we elected two women what a calamity you are such a sexist i bet you drive a van


  • #65
    EuropeanSon
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    feeder666 wrote: »
    oh **** we elected two women what a calamity you are such a sexist i bet you drive a van

    No. There are some excellent female TDs in the Dáil. For example, Kathleen Lynch is among the best TDs around. Those two just happen to be completely inept, it's nothing to do with them being women, and everything to do with Joan Burton having nothing constructive to offer, ever, and Mary O'Rourke being completely incapable of formulating a rational argument, and only being there because she is a Lenihan.


  • #66
    dannyc
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    EuropeanSon wrote: »
    For f*ck sake, this country elected Joan Burton and Mary O'Rourke. Dylan Haskins cannot possibly be more useless, and so your point about him not being "qualif[ied] for a role in determining the future of the Irish state", when they are simply due to being older (despite their colossal incompetence), doesn't really hold up to much.
    I'm not saying I'd vote for him (I wouldn't), but to dismiss him as a viable candidate because of his age and not dismiss these people (and others) because of their absolute and total ineptitude seems a little odd, to me.

    Hah, just because I don't think Haskins is going to make a good TD doesn't mean I support Joan Burton or Mary O'Rourke, that is such a strange leap of logic...
    And just because Haskins "can't possibly be more useless" doesn't seem to me a fitting qualification to vote him into the dail.
    Its not simply his age I take issue with, its his lack of any sort of meaningful political experience at all. Running a night club or setting up a community arts centre is great and all but it shouldn't entitle you to a vote on how Ireland is going to be governed. What does Haskins have thats so unique it requires him to run against other more popular and experienced independents like Mannix Flynn? I don't see anything in his manifesto except a few good ideas about building a better community, then a lot of wishy washy answers on basically everything else... including the economy which is by far the most pressing issue facing ireland on a national level at the moment.

    And while we are on the topic of age, I DO think it is naive to think a 23 year old can actually effectively implement any promises he gets elected on. He's at a natural disadvantage because he's dealing with people who have much more experience and very different motives to him. I just think the whole thing is either very naive or very arrogant... Maybe a mix of both. Call me a cynic.


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  • #67
    Jonathan
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    I wonder was Dylan's vote affected by the SU vote registration fsck up or was he just all talk in the first place?


  • #68
    Ravelleman
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    I doubt it very much. Just because he's a Trinity student didn't mean that the relatively few people from the college that actually live in that constituency were going to vote for him and the empty space where his policies were meant to be.

    It was never a question of him being all talk - no one was ever listening.


  • #69
    Denerick
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    I doubt it very much. Just because he's a Trinity student didn't mean that the relatively few people from the college that actually live in that constituency were going to vote for him and the empty space where his policies were meant to be.

    It was never a question of him being all talk - no one was ever listening.

    I heard him on a few radio shows. He seemed to me to be a nice, but very very naive young man.


  • #70
    starling.
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    Denerick wrote: »
    I heard him on a few radio shows. He seemed to me to be a nice, but very very naive young man.


    Apparently he had more facebook friends than votes :rolleyes:


  • #71
    Corruptedmorals
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    starling. wrote: »
    Apparently he had more facebook friends than votes :rolleyes:


    Obviously, facebook allowed friend requests from outside the constituency, people who admired his taking part and/or his policies. He got about 1450 votes before he was eliminated, not bad at all for a young person with no background competing in such a heavyweight constituency. Fair play to him.


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  • #72
    Tragedy
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    Corruptedmorals wrote: »
    Obviously, facebook allowed friend requests from outside the constituency, people who admired his taking part and/or his policies. He got about 1450 votes before he was eliminated, not bad at all for a young person with no background competing in such a heavyweight constituency. Fair play to him.
    You make it sound like he had no help and he got 1450 votes against the odds.

    http://lickiweeks.org/dylan-haskins-the-new-young-face-of-irish-politics


  • #73
    Marshy
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    Tragedy wrote: »
    You make it sound like he had no help and he got 1450 votes against the odds.

    http://lickiweeks.org/dylan-haskins-the-new-young-face-of-irish-politics
    While I certainly wouldn't consider myself a fan of his, I think he polled semi-respectably considering the second Labour candidate was elected with a little over twice as many #1s.

    Regardless of his policies (or lack thereof as some would argue) I thought he was almost canvassing Trinity and students more than the actual electorate of DSE. Was almost an SU election type campaign which wasn't going to work.


  • #74
    Corruptedmorals
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,195 ✭✭✭Corruptedmorals


    Tragedy wrote: »
    You make it sound like he had no help and he got 1450 votes against the odds.

    http://lickiweeks.org/dylan-haskins-the-new-young-face-of-irish-politics


    Not saying he financed his own campaign and did everything else, moreso the fact that he was still a nobody competing against the likes of Quinn and Creighton. Sommerville didn't get in either and there was high hopes for him getting the last seat. I agree he might have more of a chance next time if he appealed to the electorate as a whole.


  • #75
    retrocubist
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    As a Trinity student, I thought it was kinda cool to see him go out and do it, even if he lost out in the end. Now, I don't think he represented me as a student, and I don't think he somehow deserved to win because he's young, but I think anyone who runs with a new message deserves some kind of respect.

    As long as the message isn't mental, of course.


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