Heat...could this be the best bloke film ever?

parker kent · 31-01-2011 4:40pm

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

When did either star in a film that made you sit up and say

?

I love both of them both as actors but meh.

Disagree! Are you actually talking about any film either actor has been in?

If so, are you really underwhelmed enough to say meh to The Godfather 1 and 2, Dog Day Afternoon, Taxi Driver, The Deer Hunter, Cape Fear, Raging Bull, Serpico, Glengarry Glen Ross, Insomnia etc. Not go John McEnroe, but you cannot be serious!!

My choices of best Boy's Night movies would be (not necessarily my all time favourite movies, just ones suited to a bloke's night):

Terminator 2
Die Hard
The Godfather
Fight Club
Dirty Harry
Bullitt
Rocky
Braveheart
Indiana Jones
Gladiator
Lethal Weapon

and dozens others if I thought a bit more about them.

On a sidenote, most war movies/series leave me dry. I hated The Pacific. There are some I like but normally they focus on other aspects of war, not just BOOM, BOOM, BOOM type stuff.

Cicero · 31-01-2011 9:08pm

^^Reckon this could be a new thread in TGC? ...has potential...."The Guys Vid-Night in"?

daithi2011 · 31-01-2011 9:15pm

What about
Top Gun
Total Recall
Aliens
Gladiator
Matrix
Rambo

for lads films

Cicero · 31-01-2011 9:29pm

^^see new thread daiti2011...let's see how it goes...

Greyfox · 31-01-2011 10:06pm

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

People get lost (IMO) in the whole DeNiro/Pacnio on screen thing.

What are they now,pretty much washed up.

When did either star in a film that made you sit up and say

IMO that scene in the cafe is one of the greatest moments in cinema history, the 2 best actors of all time play out one of the best written scenes ever. Ronin is an ok film but it's forgettable trash compared to Heat. Yes both actors have started to go dowhill since Heat but everyone who loves films would agree that both actors have given us many memerable characters

Got to add Pulp Fiction to a lads weekend of already mentioned Die Hard, Heat, Aliens, Goodfellas, Terminator 1&2, Braveheart and Gladiator

DublinWriter · 31-01-2011 10:09pm

hairy sailor wrote: »

the best car chase in a movie has to be ronin i reckon

Damn right...how they ever convinced the French Government/Parisian Council to let them do that is beyond me as they never ever allow car-chase scenes to be filmed in the capital.

FUNKY LOVER · 31-01-2011 10:11pm

goodfellas??????????

M three · 31-01-2011 10:33pm

mike65 wrote: »

Pffffffft! Many almost completely unknown (in the anglophone world) French and Italian crime thrillers from the 70s had chases that make Hollywoods tyre-squeelers look like Drive School.

However here is the best American chase I've seen 10 mins of V8 powered total white knuckles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vACWV5sRcY

Cool, not a seatbelt in sight! Any chance of clips from said french and italian thrillers?

M three · 31-01-2011 10:41pm

Yea heat is class, been searching round for a poster of that scene in the diner, where de niro is on the phone to van zant, and he tells him he's talking to an empty telephone, cos "theres a dead man on the other end of this line"

does anyone know where to get this?

K4t · 31-01-2011 10:48pm

Can't believe nobody's mentioned the Godfather. Ultimate guy movie.

Personally, The Deer Hunter.

krudler · 31-01-2011 10:59pm

Chet Zar wrote: »

You took the words out of my mouth...I actually turned it off as it was coming to the ending as I hate it as well. De Niro getting killed...ugh.

Was defo thinking of Ronin. Jean Reno and De Niro - far superior than Pacino and De Niro...love that film.

The ending is brilliant,

it wraps up McCauley's speech about him never going back to jail, he'd rather die than go back, and even though him and Pacino have a mutual respect for each other, they both know one of them has to die, Pacino holding his hand as he dies but neither of them saying a word is a brilliant moment.

fantastic music in that scene as well.

I love Heat, not for all the guns and chases, they're just the cherry on top, but its amazingly written, nobody makes crime look so cool as Michael Mann, I was actually on the street where the shootout was shot in LA a few months ago, its down in the financial district and wasnt too far from my hotel so took a wander over there. And its got one of the best casts of character actors ever, everyone has their own little story and they all intertwine.

krudler · 31-01-2011 11:00pm

mle1324 wrote: »

Good shoot out scene but it was robbed from an older film called LA Takedown

I dont think you can accuse a director of robbing a scene from another movie that he also directed, Heat is a bigger budget remake/retake of LA Takedown, which is a pretty decent little movie in its own right.

M three · 31-01-2011 11:05pm

Has anyone mentioned scarface? "say hello to my little friend" Classic.

Manic Moran · 31-01-2011 11:45pm

DublinWriter wrote: »

Damn right...how they ever convinced the French Government/Parisian Council to let them do that is beyond me as they never ever allow car-chase scenes to be filmed in the capital.

Have you never seen Rendezvous?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COyab3YQS48

Who said they had permission of the council? :P

I would rather get some good war films for a bloke DVD marathon:

Platoon
Full Metal Jacket
The Deerhunter
Apocolypse Now

Which is fine, but why not actually list some good war films?

A Bridge too Far

Better. No politics, just shooting.

Also Zulu, Black Hawk Down, An Ungentlemanly Act, Gettysburg, We Were Soldiers, The Siege of Firebase Gloria, 71-Into the Fire, The Longest Day, maybe The Beast, and at a push, Kelly's Heroes or The Pentagon Wars. There are certainly other great war films, such as Das Boot, Ta Guk Gi, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Tora! Tora! Tora!, Battle of Britain, Patton, or The Enemy Below, but not the sort of thing for a lads' night in.

But if you just want a group of lads around with the beer and popcorn, it has to be 1941.

My name is Captain Wild Bill Kelso, and don't you forget it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqNAOl4Prqo

NTM

Nulty · 01-02-2011 4:16am

I'm not a massive film fan but of all the movies mentioned apart from the war movies (have to watch them) I have to watch Heat if I flick past it. Die Hard I can live without.

Apocolypse and Deer Hunter are too long sometimes and cant be engaged.

Speaking of Heat, did anyone think that that was Charlize Theron as Val Kilmers wife? I did.

Manic Moran · 01-02-2011 5:55am

Cool, not a seatbelt in sight!

And just as well. Ol' Roy wouldn't have survived that crash had he been wearing one.

NTM

take everything · 01-02-2011 6:42am

krudler wrote: »

The ending is brilliant,
it wraps up McCauley's speech about him never going back to jail, he'd rather die than go back, and even though him and Pacino have a mutual respect for each other, they both know one of them has to die, Pacino holding his hand as he dies but neither of them saying a word is a brilliant moment.
fantastic music in that scene as well.

I love Heat, not for all the guns and chases, they're just the cherry on top, but its amazingly written, nobody makes crime look so cool as Michael Mann, I was actually on the street where the shootout was shot in LA a few months ago, its down in the financial district and wasnt too far from my hotel so took a wander over there. And its got one of the best casts of character actors ever, everyone has their own little story and they all intertwine.

Yeah totally agree about Mann- very stylish director.
He also seems to be obsessed with LA at night (how bad) - cf. Collateral, another great film IMO.
Club scene in that is brilliant.
Great performances from Cruise, Fox and Ruffalo.
Heat's great as well.

Heat...could this be the best bloke film ever?

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