Heat...could this be the best bloke film ever?

Chet Zar

and the best car chase ever created - is coming up on RTE 2 right now....

Pacino and DeNiro in the same film, their first scene together...Michael Mann directing...long drawn out LA cityscape scenes building the mood...is there anything this picture doesn't have?

mike65

Two lipstick lesbians and chiffon - The Hunger is the best bloke film ever made! :pac:

Captain Chaos

The best shootout scene ever directed too. Just class.

Chet Zar

Captain Chaos wrote: »

The best shootout scene ever directed too. Just class.

Was meant to mention that too - unreal shootout scene...

hairy sailor

the best car chase in a movie has to be ronin i reckon

Chet Zar

hairy sailor wrote: »

the best car chase in a movie has to be ronin i reckon

wow hold on now I think I actually meant Ronin...I'll have to see this one again first!

Jesus Wept

It's pretty bad.

Stojkovic

hairy sailor wrote: »

the best car chase in a movie has to be ronin i reckon

Bullit ?
French Connection ?

Mint Sauce

Stojkovic wrote: »

Bullit ?
French Connection ?

The Italian Job (original) is preety high up there as well.

mike65

Pffffffft! Many almost completely unknown (in the anglophone world) French and Italian crime thrillers from the 70s had chases that make Hollywoods tyre-squeelers look like Drive School.

However here is the best American chase I've seen 10 mins of V8 powered total white knuckles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vACWV5sRcY

squod

Opening car chase scene from Universal Soldier Regeneration is worth a look.
(Rest of the film is merely average)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ2-83QBy4I

mle1324

Captain Chaos wrote: »

The best shootout scene ever directed too. Just class.

Good shoot out scene but it was robbed from an older film called LA Takedown

mike65

LA Takedown was Michael Manns TV movie dry run for HEAT,its HEAT for people in a hurry at 92 mins duration

hairy sailor

Stojkovic wrote: »

Bullit ?
French Connection ?

Both s**t hot but Ronin's my favourite

Captain Chaos

mle1324 wrote: »

Good shoot out scene but it was robbed from an older film called LA Takedown

But Heat refined it and made it far better and the entire movie imo, the sound effects used for the Colt Commandos is really gritty and aggressive, just love it.

L31mr0d

Heat is definitely up there.

On a lads weekend movie playlist would be:

Die Hard
Predator
Heat
Clear and Present Danger
The Bourne Identity
Die Hard

mle1324

Captain Chaos wrote: »

But Heat refined it and made it far better and the entire movie imo, the sound effects used for the Colt Commandos is really gritty and aggressive, just love it.

No doubt yeah, it was better because Andy McNab was the tec adviser (or something like that) for the film.

blow69

L31mr0d wrote: »

Heat is definitely up there.

On a lads weekend movie playlist would be:

Die Hard
Predator
Heat
Clear and Present Danger
The Bourne Identity
Die Hard

Never realized how annoying the canned laughter can be on Friends, but here it is..:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSRIaZBsv5k

Otis Driftwood

Chet Zar wrote: »

and the best car chase ever created - is coming up on RTE 2 right now....

Pacino and DeNiro in the same film, their first scene together...Michael Mann directing...long drawn out LA cityscape scenes building the mood...is there anything this picture doesn't have?

The ability to hold my attention.

People get lost (IMO) in the whole DeNiro/Pacnio on screen thing.

What are they now,pretty much washed up.

When did either star in a film that made you sit up and say

wow,that was . . . . . . . .I dont have the words for it

?

I love both of them both as actors but meh.

stiffler123

hairy sailor wrote: »

the best car chase in a movie has to be ronin i reckon

Cough* Blues Brothers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oMtdXaqBx4

And that's just up to the mall, it gets better. Most of the lads films mentioned are pretty decent. My favourite though has to be Old School, will never get sick of that movie.

SugarHigh

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

When did either star in a film that made you sit up and say
.

"everybody's fine" is good but too depressing.

kerryman12

Heat = great movie
end of

Johnny Utah

Captain Chaos wrote: »

The best shootout scene ever directed too. Just class.

Yeah great film. It inspired the real-life Hollywood shootout a few years later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

Cicero

Heat is a very flawed film imo...it's biggest claim to fame was bringing De Niro and Pacino together on screen face to face for the first time.......hated the ending...but did enjoy the film overall....preferred Ronin tbh...

Chet Zar

Cicero wrote: »

Heat is a very flawed film imo...it's biggest claim to fame was bringing De Niro and Pacino together on screen face to face for the first time.......hated the ending...but did enjoy the film overall....preferred Ronin tbh...

You took the words out of my mouth...I actually turned it off as it was coming to the ending as I hate it as well. De Niro getting killed...ugh.

Was defo thinking of Ronin. Jean Reno and De Niro - far superior than Pacino and De Niro...love that film.

Chet Zar

L31mr0d wrote: »

Heat is definitely up there.

On a lads weekend movie playlist would be:

Die Hard
Predator
Heat
Clear and Present Danger
The Bourne Identity
Die Hard

Great list, but you forgot Under Siege dude..

Rubik.

Heat was a bit a let down really, but I have high hopes for "The Irishman" directed by Scorsese and starring Pacino, De Niro and Pesci.

Tar.Aldarion

heat is amazing, must have watched it a dozen times on tv growing up

ronin is great too

myflipflops

Am I the only one who doesn't need or even enjoy a car chase scene?

I would rather get some good war films for a bloke DVD marathon:

Platoon
Full Metal Jacket
The Deerhunter
Apocolypse Now

I like my bloke films completely free of the contrived love story tacked onto the side.

--Kaiser--

myflipflops wrote: »

Am I the only one who doesn't need or even enjoy a car chase scene?

I would rather get some good war films for a bloke DVD marathon:

Platoon
Full Metal Jacket
The Deerhunter
Apocolypse Now

I like my bloke films completely free of the contrived love story tacked onto the side.

+1 A good bloke film has to be about war.

A Bridge too Far
Saving Private Ryan
etc...

Logical Fallacy

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

+1 A good bloke film has to be about war.

A Bridge too Far
Saving Private Ryan
etc...

I don't know, i think a good bloke film can be about pretty much anything. I think as blokes, we romanticise war because of cinema.

I like "Brick" as a bloke film, a dude who is comfortable in himself and in his abilities trying to stand up for his believes and ethics.

Oh yeah, and Rocky.

parker kent

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

When did either star in a film that made you sit up and say

?

I love both of them both as actors but meh.

Disagree! Are you actually talking about any film either actor has been in?

If so, are you really underwhelmed enough to say meh to The Godfather 1 and 2, Dog Day Afternoon, Taxi Driver, The Deer Hunter, Cape Fear, Raging Bull, Serpico, Glengarry Glen Ross, Insomnia etc. Not go John McEnroe, but you cannot be serious!!

My choices of best Boy's Night movies would be (not necessarily my all time favourite movies, just ones suited to a bloke's night):

Terminator 2
Die Hard
The Godfather
Fight Club
Dirty Harry
Bullitt
Rocky
Braveheart
Indiana Jones
Gladiator
Lethal Weapon

and dozens others if I thought a bit more about them.

On a sidenote, most war movies/series leave me dry. I hated The Pacific. There are some I like but normally they focus on other aspects of war, not just BOOM, BOOM, BOOM type stuff.

Cicero

^^Reckon this could be a new thread in TGC? ...has potential...."The Guys Vid-Night in"?

daithi2011

What about
Top Gun
Total Recall
Aliens
Gladiator
Matrix
Rambo

for lads films

Cicero

^^see new thread daiti2011...let's see how it goes...

Greyfox

Otis Driftwood wrote: »

People get lost (IMO) in the whole DeNiro/Pacnio on screen thing.

What are they now,pretty much washed up.

When did either star in a film that made you sit up and say

IMO that scene in the cafe is one of the greatest moments in cinema history, the 2 best actors of all time play out one of the best written scenes ever. Ronin is an ok film but it's forgettable trash compared to Heat. Yes both actors have started to go dowhill since Heat but everyone who loves films would agree that both actors have given us many memerable characters

Got to add Pulp Fiction to a lads weekend of already mentioned Die Hard, Heat, Aliens, Goodfellas, Terminator 1&2, Braveheart and Gladiator

DublinWriter

hairy sailor wrote: »

the best car chase in a movie has to be ronin i reckon

Damn right...how they ever convinced the French Government/Parisian Council to let them do that is beyond me as they never ever allow car-chase scenes to be filmed in the capital.

FUNKY LOVER

goodfellas??????????

M three

mike65 wrote: »

Pffffffft! Many almost completely unknown (in the anglophone world) French and Italian crime thrillers from the 70s had chases that make Hollywoods tyre-squeelers look like Drive School.

However here is the best American chase I've seen 10 mins of V8 powered total white knuckles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vACWV5sRcY

Cool, not a seatbelt in sight! Any chance of clips from said french and italian thrillers?

M three

Yea heat is class, been searching round for a poster of that scene in the diner, where de niro is on the phone to van zant, and he tells him he's talking to an empty telephone, cos "theres a dead man on the other end of this line"

does anyone know where to get this?

K4t

Can't believe nobody's mentioned the Godfather. Ultimate guy movie.

Personally, The Deer Hunter.

krudler

Chet Zar wrote: »

You took the words out of my mouth...I actually turned it off as it was coming to the ending as I hate it as well. De Niro getting killed...ugh.

Was defo thinking of Ronin. Jean Reno and De Niro - far superior than Pacino and De Niro...love that film.

The ending is brilliant,

it wraps up McCauley's speech about him never going back to jail, he'd rather die than go back, and even though him and Pacino have a mutual respect for each other, they both know one of them has to die, Pacino holding his hand as he dies but neither of them saying a word is a brilliant moment.

fantastic music in that scene as well.

I love Heat, not for all the guns and chases, they're just the cherry on top, but its amazingly written, nobody makes crime look so cool as Michael Mann, I was actually on the street where the shootout was shot in LA a few months ago, its down in the financial district and wasnt too far from my hotel so took a wander over there. And its got one of the best casts of character actors ever, everyone has their own little story and they all intertwine.

krudler

mle1324 wrote: »

Good shoot out scene but it was robbed from an older film called LA Takedown

I dont think you can accuse a director of robbing a scene from another movie that he also directed, Heat is a bigger budget remake/retake of LA Takedown, which is a pretty decent little movie in its own right.

M three

Has anyone mentioned scarface? "say hello to my little friend" Classic.

Manic Moran

DublinWriter wrote: »

Damn right...how they ever convinced the French Government/Parisian Council to let them do that is beyond me as they never ever allow car-chase scenes to be filmed in the capital.

Have you never seen Rendezvous?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COyab3YQS48

Who said they had permission of the council? :P

I would rather get some good war films for a bloke DVD marathon:

Platoon
Full Metal Jacket
The Deerhunter
Apocolypse Now

Which is fine, but why not actually list some good war films?

A Bridge too Far

Better. No politics, just shooting.

Also Zulu, Black Hawk Down, An Ungentlemanly Act, Gettysburg, We Were Soldiers, The Siege of Firebase Gloria, 71-Into the Fire, The Longest Day, maybe The Beast, and at a push, Kelly's Heroes or The Pentagon Wars. There are certainly other great war films, such as Das Boot, Ta Guk Gi, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Tora! Tora! Tora!, Battle of Britain, Patton, or The Enemy Below, but not the sort of thing for a lads' night in.

But if you just want a group of lads around with the beer and popcorn, it has to be 1941.

My name is Captain Wild Bill Kelso, and don't you forget it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqNAOl4Prqo

NTM

Nulty

I'm not a massive film fan but of all the movies mentioned apart from the war movies (have to watch them) I have to watch Heat if I flick past it. Die Hard I can live without.

Apocolypse and Deer Hunter are too long sometimes and cant be engaged.

Speaking of Heat, did anyone think that that was Charlize Theron as Val Kilmers wife? I did.

Manic Moran

Cool, not a seatbelt in sight!

And just as well. Ol' Roy wouldn't have survived that crash had he been wearing one.

NTM

take everything

krudler wrote: »

The ending is brilliant,

it wraps up McCauley's speech about him never going back to jail, he'd rather die than go back, and even though him and Pacino have a mutual respect for each other, they both know one of them has to die, Pacino holding his hand as he dies but neither of them saying a word is a brilliant moment.

fantastic music in that scene as well.

I love Heat, not for all the guns and chases, they're just the cherry on top, but its amazingly written, nobody makes crime look so cool as Michael Mann, I was actually on the street where the shootout was shot in LA a few months ago, its down in the financial district and wasnt too far from my hotel so took a wander over there. And its got one of the best casts of character actors ever, everyone has their own little story and they all intertwine.

Yeah totally agree about Mann- very stylish director.
He also seems to be obsessed with LA at night (how bad) - cf. Collateral, another great film IMO.
Club scene in that is brilliant.
Great performances from Cruise, Fox and Ruffalo.
Heat's great as well.