Zeitgeist - Moving Forward... when is it available online?

mute101

It was supposed to be available to watch from yesterday. Has anyone heard anything about it?

mute101

not until the 25th i found out (for free online release).

Meadows

Zeitgeist 3 Moving Forward
early torrent

http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Zeitgeist-3-Moving-Forward-Satanism-Socialism-EU-UN/36430fbb9b55ab5f56f42d921dbc0f24987bfac7d779

bit of an unusual title buts is the real movie

Yitzhak Rabin

Meadow is that a pirated torrent, or is it freely available or what? Its just we can't post up stuff if it isn't legal.

Meadows

the movies free

Tyrant^

The Conspiracy theory forum is not really the right place for this, imo !

Expand your horizons maybe

Brain Stroking

Anyone seen it? Is it any good or is it just peddling the "let's all forget about money and share the natural resources without regard to country boundaries and commercial interests" nonsense that previous editions of this series degenerated into?

Meadows

i loved it, i just wish there was a place interested people could all go to get the ball rolling.

My name is URL

Tyrant^ wrote: »

The Conspiracy theory forum is not really the right place for this, imo !

Expand your horizons maybe

You should start a thread on it in that forum. I would gamble that within 10 posts, both communism and conspiracy theories will be mentioned =p

Pete M.

My name is URL wrote: »

You should start a thread on it in that forum. I would gamble that within 10 posts, both communism and conspiracy theories will be mentioned =p

I thought communism was a conspiracy theory.

As for the movie and what it's all about, maybe in an ideal world........

Tyrant^

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Anyone seen it? Is it any good or is it just peddling the "let's all forget about money and share the natural resources without regard to country boundaries and commercial interests" nonsense that previous editions of this series degenerated into?

Dont think your going to like it.

Meadows wrote: »

i loved it, i just wish there was a place interested people could all go to get the ball rolling.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/

Theres an Irish chapter if you want to get involed in moving that ball!
The main objective of the movement at the moment is making more people aware of the information.

My name is URL wrote: »

You should start a thread on it in that forum. I would gamble that within 10 posts, both communism and conspiracy theories will be mentioned =p

Maybe I might just for funsies, they seem quite rational in there...
What you going to gamble ?

Brain Stroking

Will probably still watch it. In the previous versions the problems were presented but no real practical solution was put forward.

Tyrant^

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Will probably still watch it. In the previous versions the problems were presented but no real practical solution was put forward.

The transition phase is what gets most people. Allot of people asking for methods on how to get from this system to the next, which nobody can really give.

Some suggest that the system is inevitably going to collapse, then some kind of transition will occur. To put it vaguely, how the transition goes will depend on us.

Daroxtar

Whats the crac with it? Genuinely, is it any good? I liked the first one, second one was a bit meh. So whats the jist of this third one because if its just a re-sell of the second one then i'll save my bandwidth and 2 1/2 hours of life

Tyrant^

Daroxtar wrote: »

Whats the crac with it? Genuinely, is it any good? I liked the first one, second one was a bit meh. So whats the jist of this third one because if its just a re-sell of the second one then i'll save my bandwidth and 2 1/2 hours of life

From the title "Moving forward" you can assume that it most of the information is not about corruption and conspiracy its all about moving forward

I found the previous two a bit depressing, but Moving Forward is more upbeat and has some comedy in it too

I dont really see the films as being good or bad, to me its all just data, and a idea. If you find the data interesting and agree with the idea I guess you'll find it good.

Richard tea

I watched the first 40 mins on youtube last night. I must say, its quite boring. Someone did mention that it could be the unfinished version though.

Faith+1

Full Version online now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w

Mahatma coat

its VERY Good, much better than the last effort, altho he still harps on a bit about the Venus project, which IMO is a workable principal but the system they suggest is just a bit of a pipe dream, we have all the resources available to make our current cities function in that sort of efficient manner with a population in place and all the social benefits that come with that.

The other part I have issue with is the abandonment of money :eek: this I would view as a step backwards, Beer tokens serve a Rather useful purpose, whilst I agree that the Beast which is the Capital economy must be destroyed, Currency is still required to grease the wheels so to speak and as an incentive for enterprise, what we need to examine is what we place value in, not the means of measuring that value.

orsomesuch

Reason66

Human beings have done wonders with technology and advancement of well beings in society's. We have produced great minds, since man recorded his deeds and intentions to better themselves in a uncertain world. A paradigm shift is inevitable. Our best minds work in politics and economic markets to further themselves, rather than focusing the question of advancing our species. I look at the television and I see is squabbling between men and the nations they represent. People blindly still buy into this "national furber" of their own interest. The monetary system is a ticking time bomb and those who hold the status quo are flogging a dead horse.

One can see the riots in North Africa, greece, and other nations to come. The old ways of control and attaining power are a strain on the ruling classes. We are in a unique phase of our evolution which forces man to look at the environment and behavior in a new way. I personally believe in human nature to over come and dare dream what will be, and can be, for the betterment of societies around the world. I'm a dreamer alright, pssst......I'm not the only one.

Tyrant^

Reason66 wrote: »

I'm a dreamer alright, pssst......I'm not the only one.

The dreamers in the past are the ones who paved the way toward the future. Things have not changed

Reason66

Tyrant^ wrote: »

The dreamers in the past are the ones who paved the way toward the future. Things have not changed

The same conciseness that created the worlds problems are still the same conciseness that offer the solutions. Hence, nothing is ever done, that is why a new paradigm is needed. I hope you understand that much?

Tyrant^

Reason66 wrote: »

The same conciseness that created the worlds problems are still the same conciseness that offer the solutions. Hence, nothing is ever done, that is why a new paradigm is needed. I hope you understand that much?

I think you misunderstood me. No worries !

Anyway... Peter Josephs video response to Stefan Molyneuxs review of Zeitgeist: Moving Forward. Good for all you critics out there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozy52bZ6JTw&feature=feedu

Worztron

Excellent documentaries. The capitalist system is futile. End it now.

Reviews:
Zeitgeist (Video 2007)
Zeitgeist: Addendum (Video 2008)
Zeitgeist: Moving Forward (2011)

Gandhi: Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed.

HighandMighty

I would like to know peoples views on this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056162423

Zeitgeist related.

My name is URL

HighandMighty wrote: »

I would like to know peoples views on this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056162423

Zeitgeist related.

I's a good movie and raises some genuine and important issues.

It's ridiculous to see that discussion about the film seems to be unwelcome on the Film Forum, but wholly expected. I reckon that 99% of the time people will dismiss it as CT nonsense without even looking at the evidence presented in the movie, or in fact even watching it, as shown by numerous posters in that thread.

ztoical

My name is URL wrote: »

I's a good movie and raises some genuine and important issues.

It's ridiculous to see that discussion about the film seems to be unwelcome on the Film Forum, but wholly expected. I reckon that 99% of the time people will dismiss it as CT nonsense without even looking at the evidence presented in the movie, or in fact even watching it, as shown by numerous posters in that thread.

The film was not unwelcome on the film board but it is the film forum so the film was looked at for it's meirts as a film which some folk, HighandMighty in particular, refused to do. They kept trying to bring the discussion back to topics that are more suited to this forum....why should we have the same discussion going on in two different forums that have a different focus? I'm not interested in discussing the content of the films or the topics they cover, my interest is film production and I watched the first one and found it to be so badly made that I would have zero interest in watching any further productions from said director regardless of the content.

If you read the thread you'll see the mods were forced to lock it due to HighandMighty trolling and ignoring a request by the mod to keep on topic and trying to start more threads on the topic in the forum resulting in them being banned. The mods have stated they would re-open the thread if people are interested in disucssing the films for their meirts as film productions.

My name is URL

ztoical wrote: »

The film was not unwelcome on the film board but it is the film forum so the film was looked at for it's meirts as a film which some folk, HighandMighty in particular, refused to do. They kept trying to bring the discussion back to topics that are more suited to this forum....why should we have the same discussion going on in two different forums that have a different focus? I'm not interested in discussing the content of the films or the topics they cover, my interest is film production and I watched the first one and found it to be so badly made that I would have zero interest in watching any further productions from said director regardless of the content.

If you read the thread you'll see the mods were forced to lock it due to HighandMighty trolling and ignoring a request by the mod to keep on topic and trying to start more threads on the topic in the forum resulting in them being banned. The mods have stated they would re-open the thread if people are interested in disucssing the films for their meirts as film productions.

Fair enough if that's the case. Posts 7 & 8 in that thread don't exactly suggest that people were prepared to discuss the film on its merits however. And other posts mention films like Loose Change and so on, so rather than discussing it on its own merits it seems like people have formed an opinion based on the merits of other stuff.

This isn't really the place to be discussing the moderation of other fora in any case. I was just opining that I wasn't surprised to see CTs and the like mentioned in a thread relating to Zeitgeist.

ztoical

My name is URL wrote: »

Fair enough if that's the case. Posts 7 & 8 in that thread don't exactly suggest that people were prepared to discuss the film on its merits however. And other posts mention films like Loose Change and so on, so rather than discussing it on its own merits it seems like people have formed an opinion based on the merits of other stuff.

This isn't really the place to be discussing the moderation of other fora in any case. I was just opining that I wasn't surprised to see CTs and the like mentioned in a thread relating to Zeitgeist.

The earlier part of the thread did get attacked by the pro and anti folk and had that gone on it would have most likely been moved to CT. However several people did try to discuss the film on it's meirts as a film production and the reason Loose Change was referenced in this case is not because they felt they are connected in the sense of the message being put forward but because both films fall into the same genre of film making [Internet documentary films] and it's only fair to compare like with like when discusing the production values. Should I start comparing a film like Zeitgeist with a multi million dollar production from season documentary film makers? As I said in my posts on the thread I did watch the first film a while back having heard little about it so my opinion was not coloured and it was a struggle to make it through the whole thing due to the very very poor production quality, over use of after effects and simply awful music - any opinion I have on the content was formed after having gone to read several pro and anti websites on it as frankly I couldn't gather any information from the film itself given the low quality of it's production.

HighandMighty

ztoical wrote: »

HighandMighty in particular, refused to do.
If you read the thread you'll see the mods were forced to lock it due to HighandMighty trolling and ignoring a request by the mod to keep on topic and trying to start more threads on the topic in the forum resulting in them being banned.

This makes me laugh, and you can reply with paragraph after paragraph of absolute rubbish trying to convince people otherwise, it may even work but if anyone cared to follow the dialogue on the thread they would see you are just trying to put me down while supporting "Johnny" and his biased views.

Its funny to see Johnny_Ultimate thanking every other post you make. hmm.
The thread is in view for everyone to see, Quote me in the parts where i "Trolled" that seems like quite a harsh accusation as far as fourms go, and i dont appreciate it, that is outright slander and YOU and your BUDDY "Johnny_Ultimate" are guilty of it.

another link here....
http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.ie/component/kunena/6-general-discussions/8214-peter-joseph-and-moving-forward-is-getting-a-bashing-on-boardsie-would-you-care-to-lay-your-opinion-there-heres-the-link

Penn

HighandMighty wrote: »

This makes me laugh, and you can reply with paragraph after paragraph of absolute rubbish trying to convince people otherwise, it may even work but if anyone cared to follow the dialogue on the thread they would see you are just trying to put me down while supporting "Johnny" and his biased views.

Its funny to see Johnny_Ultimate thanking every other post you make. hmm.
The thread is in view for everyone to see, Quote me in the parts where i "Trolled" that seems like quite a harsh accusation as far as fourms go, and i dont appreciate it, that is outright slander and YOU and your BUDDY "Johnny_Ultimate" are guilty of it.

another link here....
http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.ie/component/kunena/6-general-discussions/8214-peter-joseph-and-moving-forward-is-getting-a-bashing-on-boardsie-would-you-care-to-lay-your-opinion-there-heres-the-link

HighandMighty, if you have a problem with a mod decision on another forum, this isn't the place to discuss it. This thread is for discussing the content of the film in relation to conspiracy theories. Please use the Dispute Resolution Forum.

Any more discussion on the thread from the film forum will result in a ban.

HighandMighty

If i say the film didnt contain what i would consider Conspiracy Theories would this be considered not discussing the content of the film in relation to conspiracy theories?

Barrington wrote: »

HighandMighty, if you have a problem with a mod decision on another forum, this isn't the place to discuss it.

Thats fine, i wouldnt even think about starting something like that here, i was just defending my name.
No one ever thanks my posts.