Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me

IfUSeekAmy · 11-01-2011 11:19pm #1

K, so Brit's first real new first single in years went on sale on Irish itunes today, currently at number1, aswell as in 18 other countries across the globe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UavBjBDqJGA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold_It_Against_Me

what do y'all think?

has she still got it, or is she past her best before.....?

It's a good tune, no doubt, and it seems less auto-tuned than her previous work, I dunno?

thoughts?

also, I amn't sure if this is the best place to make this thread, feel free to move.

SteveDon · 11-01-2011 11:31pm

What planet are you on? Seriously, this is the electronic music forum.

No one is welcome here unless they listen to extremely obscure techno that is of no commercial appeal at all to the great unwashed, everyone knows that.

jtsuited · 11-01-2011 11:37pm

IfUSeekAmy wrote: »

K, so Brit's first real new first single in years went on sale on Irish itunes today, currently at number1, aswell as in 18 other countries across the globe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UavBjBDqJGA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold_It_Against_Me

what do y'all think?

has she still got it, or is she past her best before.....?

It's a good tune, no doubt, and it seems less auto-tuned than her previous work, I dunno?

thoughts?

also, I amn't sure if this is the best place to make this thread, feel free to move.

why would you use the internet to talk about Britney Spears. That's what the hairdresser's is for.

ianuss · 11-01-2011 11:54pm

I kinda like it.

leggo · 12-01-2011 3:26pm

The best and worst thing to ever happen to dubstep was the sample used on this track. It's the first time it's recognised on a BIG pop track (and this track is getting a massive push from the labels, stations etc. It's gonna be the next 'Umbrella'). And it's going to become standard after this.

The good news is that now DJ's who've been on the bandwagon for a while can start making money from it. The bad news is that it's not going to be trendy to talk about it on boards anymore.

jtsuited · 12-01-2011 3:38pm

leggo wrote: »

The best and worst thing to ever happen to dubstep was the sample used on this track. It's the first time it's recognised on a BIG pop track (and this track is getting a massive push from the labels, stations etc. It's gonna be the next 'Umbrella'). And it's going to become standard after this.

The good news is that now DJ's who've been on the bandwagon for a while can start making money from it. The bad news is that it's not going to be trendy to talk about it on boards anymore.

Huh? So a wobbly bass = dubstep sample?

jtsuited · 12-01-2011 3:40pm

leggo wrote: »

The good news is that now DJ's who've been on the bandwagon for a while can start making money from it. The bad news is that it's not going to be trendy to talk about it on boards anymore.

Find me one place where a track that resembles that Spears track has been discussed on this forum.

Is mise le key · 12-01-2011 3:40pm

In response to the Lyrics of the song,

Yes i would & do:D

jtsuited · 12-01-2011 3:42pm

Remember when I said there was no point in arguing with mobile/wedding djs about music?
Thank you Leggo for proving my point.
I think we can categorically say you haven't a bloody clue what you're talking about. So no surprise there anywho.

Zascar · 12-01-2011 3:49pm

I agree that it's a horrible noisy wobbly crappy baseline - which is what I think of a lot of Dubstep

but that tune is certainly not Dubstep. It's just another variant of the mass produced rubbish they force feed to uneducated teenagers who don't know any better.

I'm never afraid to say I like commercial cheese, but it's a horrible song.

jtsuited · 12-01-2011 3:51pm

Zascar wrote: »

I agree that it's a horrible noisy wobbly crappy baseline - which is what I think of a lot of Dubstep

*rants about how wobbly dubstep is a load of bollocks and is only one part of a broad spectrum of styles etc*:D

Is mise le key · 12-01-2011 3:52pm

Zascar wrote: »

I agree that it's a horrible noisy wobbly crappy baseline - which is what I think of a lot of Dubstep but that tune is certainly not Dubstep. It's just another variant of the mass produced rubbish they force feed to uneducated teenagers who don't know any better.

I'm never afraid to say I like commercial cheese, but it's a horrible song.

I have to admit i do like quite a lot of commercial cheese:D

http://www.hilmarcheese.com/CommercialCheese.cms

Android 666 · 12-01-2011 3:53pm

jtsuited wrote: »

Huh? So a wobbly bass = dubstep sample?

Yeah, its on page 2 of the Dubstep manual. Have you not got it?

jtsuited · 12-01-2011 3:56pm

Android 666 wrote: »

Yeah, its on page 2 of the Dubstep manual. Have you not got it?

no, amazon are screwing me about.

Android 666 · 12-01-2011 4:01pm

jtsuited wrote: »

no, amazon are screwing me about.

Ah, you probably got the 'Dubstep for Dummies' that they've been recommending… It really only concentrates on high squeal noises, drill sounds and stutter beats. The Dubstep Manual by JR Hartley gives you a much more rounded overview on all things wobbly.

Remember that's the Dubstep Manual by JR Hartley. You might have to look through the Yellow Pages for it.

old gregg · 12-01-2011 4:11pm

there was a time when Britney was worth a few inches of wobble

francois · 12-01-2011 4:11pm

Android 666 wrote: »

Ah, you probably got the 'Dubstep for Dummies' that they've been recommending… It really only concentrates on high squeal noises, drill sounds and stutter beats. The Dubstep Manual by JR Hartley gives you a much more rounded overview on all things wobbly.

Remember that's the Dubstep Manual by JR Hartley. You might have to look through the Yellow Pages for it.

Ah the renaissence man Hartley-I can thouroughly recommend his master opus "fly fishing"

Android 666 · 12-01-2011 4:15pm

francois wrote: »

Ah the renaissence man Hartley-I can thouroughly recommend his master opus "fly fishing"

It were proper rubbish. I thought it was going to be about fishing with style. It wasn't that at all…

electrogrimey · 12-01-2011 9:14pm

Why are people calling this dubstep? It's just electro-house with a horrible hoover bassline, not even a wobble bass, or am I listening to a different track?

jtsuited · 12-01-2011 9:16pm

electrogrimey wrote: »

Why are people calling this dubstep? It's just electro-house with a horrible hoover bassline, not even a wobble bass, or am I listening to a different track?

It was Leggo who mentioned dubstep.

Paul1979 · 12-01-2011 9:24pm

would u play this leggo?

leggo · 12-01-2011 9:24pm

It's not me who's billing it as dubstep guys. It's the labels. That's what they're putting out there.

But by all means feel free to take it out on me because nobody else is listening.

would u play this leggo?

Hells yeah man! This is baby-making music!

jtsuited · 12-01-2011 9:26pm

leggo wrote: »

It's not me who's billing it as dubstep guys. It's the labels. That's what they're putting out there.

But by all means feel free to take it out on me because nobody else is listening.

Well at least we know where you get your information from.

Paul1979 · 12-01-2011 9:28pm

leggo wrote: »

It's not me who's billing it as dubstep guys. It's the labels. That's what they're putting out there.

But by all means feel free to take it out on me because nobody else is listening.

Hells yeah man! This is baby-making music!

says it all really

leggo · 12-01-2011 9:59pm

jtsuited wrote: »

Well at least we know where you get your information from.

I know. I got it off Google News. Sometimes I even use it as a search engine. Gosh, I'm so mainstream I sicken myself sometimes!

Paul1979 wrote: »

says it all really

Awwww...XOXO!

CiaranMT · 12-01-2011 11:55pm

There is wob-wob at 2.25, up to then it's just electro-house as electrogrimey said earlier.

Would be interesting to see how this song would be seen by the heads on here if it were some unknown singer who'd released this.

jtsuited · 12-01-2011 11:59pm

CiaranMT wrote: »

There is wob-wob at 2.25, up to then it's just electro-house as electrogrimey said earlier.

Would be interesting to see how this song would be seen by the heads on here if it were some unknown singer who'd released this.

it'd be seen as the awful sh1te it is.

acman · 13-01-2011 1:45am

leggo wrote: »

It's not me who's billing it as dubstep guys. It's the labels.

Wow, how the hell Britney Spears and Burial are even mentioned on the same website, never mind in the same article is mind boggling to me...

The role of Dubstep in Britney Spears' music will likely become more pronounced when her album drops, as she was reported to have worked with famed Dubstep producers Rusko on some tracks.

Dubstep artists worth checking out include Burial, Flying Lotus, Skream and, yes, Rusko. Happy listening!

"album drops" *snigger*

I did hear that britney song on the radio the other day, just sounded like even more electro house pop wanck to me.

Is mise le key · 13-01-2011 7:50am

CiaranMT wrote: »

There is wob-wob at 2.25, up to then it's just electro-house as electrogrimey said earlier.

Would be interesting to see how this song would be seen by the heads on here if it were some unknown singer who'd released this.

My fuc.king god, are you that far removed from recognising real talented music!!!!

This is Now 67 shi.te!!!!

Finally, if this is electro house thank fuc.king jaysus i never got into the new 'cutting edge' (said sarcastically) stuff post 2002 ish.

HoggyRS · 13-01-2011 1:02pm

Sure isn't caspa or rusko producing her album? No surprise it might come off a bit dubstep-y

Logical Fallacy · 13-01-2011 3:04pm

HoggyRS wrote: »

Sure isn't caspa or rusko producing her album? No surprise it might come off a bit dubstep-y

Rusko did some tunes with her, but apparently none of them made the album.

There is nothing Dubstep like about the song though. Not the bass, not the beat, not anything.

There is not even anything "brostep" like about it.

Don't get me wrong, i understand why people think it is but that is purely because they haven't a clue about Dubstep, either end of the spectrum.

This is the kind of song that basically allows **** DJ's in wanky clubs to feel like they are threading somewhere near the deep end of the pool but at the end of the day it's derivative bull**** pop music and that's about it.

Paul1979 · 13-01-2011 3:14pm

"brostep"??.....jesus

Android 666 · 13-01-2011 3:20pm

Paul1979 wrote: »

"brostep"??.....jesus

Surely you've heard of brostep at this stage…

Is mise le key · 13-01-2011 3:23pm

Android 666 wrote: »

Surely you've heard of brostep at this stage…

Ive heard of it but it still warrants a,

Jeeeesus!!!!

After it:D

Paul1979 · 13-01-2011 3:23pm

no im too old, i still use vinyl for gods sake:D

Android 666 · 13-01-2011 3:29pm

Paul1979 wrote: »

no im too old, i still use vinyl for gods sake:D

Ah if you were born in 79 then I'm older than you…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGxTc8dBAPg

That's not me by the way!

Is mise le key · 13-01-2011 3:32pm

Paul1979 wrote: »

no im too old, i still use vinyl for gods sake:D

Well after putting Jesus after brostep, i think you would have been better to say,

'i still use vinyl for heavens sake';)

Paul1979 · 13-01-2011 3:47pm

Android 666 wrote: »

Ah if you were born in 79 then I'm older than you…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGxTc8dBAPg

That's not me by the way!

its david rodigan

Paul1979 · 13-01-2011 3:50pm

typed it into google

"Brostep is a relatively new sub-genre of music (born out of Dubstep micro-genre) which has no emphasis on soul.

The goal appears to be to produce music as fast as you possibly can, without placing any emphasis on quality.

Unlike Dubstep where sub bass is key, Brostep places more emphasis on ratty high frequency samples and oscillators that arent even low frequency. Toss in a few hip hop vocal samples and you are well on your way to being the worlds next big Brostep producer.
Brostepper - Man, I cant wait to see Rusko & 6blocc.

Dubstepper - Man, I cant wait to see Mala & Kode 9"

more like sh*testep

CiaranMT · 13-01-2011 3:54pm

CiaranMT wrote: »

There is wob-wob at 2.25, up to then it's just electro-house as electrogrimey said earlier.

Would be interesting to see how this song would be seen by the heads on here if it were some unknown singer who'd released this.

Is mise le key wrote: »

My fuc.king god, are you that far removed from recognising real talented music!!!!

This is Now 67 shi.te!!!!

Finally, if this is electro house thank fuc.king jaysus i never got into the new 'cutting edge' (said sarcastically) stuff post 2002 ish.

Did I say it was good at any point up there?

Android 666 · 13-01-2011 3:54pm

Is mise le key wrote: »

Ive heard of it but it still warrants a,

Jeeeesus!!!!

After it:D

Ah, I don't know if it helps you identify a some of the dross floating around the dubstep genre I'm for it.

Logical Fallacy · 13-01-2011 5:19pm

"Brostep" was started as a derogatory term for American Dubstep on the dubstepforum.com At the time it was largely used as a way for online elitism to be continued and anything from an American producer was tarred as "Brostep ****", despite the fact that the wobble was largely pushed at the time and brought to prominence by Caspa and Rusko and largely originated by Coki (all UK producers) . In the same breath, these same people would talk about the excellent work of producers such as Starkey and Reso, all the while missing the point that Starkey and Reso were , in fact, American producers.

As you can see, the dupstepforum is a veritable meeting of the minds with regards to music and opinion sharing.

It's largely in the same vein as kids from Croydon thinking they must be great Dubstep producers because they are from Croydon.

I ****ing love the internet.

electrogrimey · 13-01-2011 5:25pm

Paul1979 wrote: »

more like sh*testep

That's the point. Brostep means **** dubstep, as in "oh bro that's so sick", because it's stupid americans that like it. It's not an actual genre. Similar to the phrase 'hairdresser house'.

Android 666 · 13-01-2011 5:36pm

electrogrimey wrote: »

That's the point. Brostep means **** dubstep, as in "oh bro that's so sick", because it's stupid americans that like it. It's not an actual genre. Similar to the phrase 'hairdresser house'.

Wait a minute, you're going to tell us that ghettotech is a genre but brostep isn't?

electrogrimey · 13-01-2011 5:40pm

Android 666 wrote: »

Wait a minute, you're going to tell us that ghettotech is a genre but brostep isn't?

Yes. Ghettotech is what booty house spintered into during the 90s. There was a great article about it in Electronic Beats magazine actually, although it was more focused on footwork.

But yeah, like get real, there are genres beside techno, like techbro, and techstep. Duh.

Eddie Ere · 13-01-2011 6:56pm

electrogrimey wrote: »

That's the point. Brostep means **** dubstep, as in "oh bro that's so sick", because it's stupid americans that like it. It's not an actual genre. Similar to the phrase 'hairdresser house'.

Dare I ask?

Anima · 13-01-2011 7:55pm

These two Canadians seem to be very popular in the American dubstep thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3PAaTeRxYk

Some of the basslines sound fairly cool but the rest of the tune is pretty gash. You can say that about all their tunes really.

As for that Britney Spears track, definite brostep influence. Sounds awful.

CiaranMT · 13-01-2011 10:17pm

Anima wrote: »

These two Canadians seem to be very popular American dubstep thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3PAaTeRxYk

Some of the basslines sound fairly cool but the rest of the tune is pretty gash. You can say that about all their tunes really.

As for that Britney Spears track, definite brostep influence. Sounds awful.

I don't even get the bass on that.

Was over there for 4 months before Christmas and the only Canadians I found who were into Dubstep, thankfully, were more into stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cdgmwGHE_U

Lighta' dem spliff 9524828206f5ef15596f846f47b010d29d60927e

copeyhagen · 13-01-2011 10:34pm

one of my all time fav dance tunes:

Britney Spears - Breathe on me (James Holden Vocal Remix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxdkqsME0Xw

Pandoras Twist · 13-01-2011 11:30pm

I knew there was a different remix of that. I heard it before and went looking for it and all I found was this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC_Le8gthu0

Cheers!

copeyhagen · 14-01-2011 10:12am

no problem, great track.

i have a copy at 320kb if anyone wants it.

took me a year of downloading the one file to get it, as only one dude had it, if you know what i mean

Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me

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