World War 3.

CorkMan

I hope I can see it in HD.

That'd be great.

grenache

af_thefragile wrote: »

All the signs suggest its imminent. USA is pushing its troops into Pakistan. There is mounting tension between the Kurds and Turks. All signs signal an attack on Iran to only be a matter of time. Over to the east, there is growing tension between N.Korea and S.Korea. China is becoming stronger by the day and will soon be challenging USA economically. While the west is getting more broke by the day! There's also growing tensions between India and Pakistan over the Kashmir issue. And there's the eternal dispute between Palestine and Israel which can be the trigger point that sets off this new global war.

Couple this with the fact Obama just signed for the largest military budget US history of over $800billion.

Looks like the stage is set for WW3.

What do you think might happen? What would the world be like if WW3 does take place?

Its definitely not going to be like WW2 where the Allied and Axis were pretty much equally matched on power and technology. The stage is very different now. USA is extremely powerful and technological advanced but at the same time extremely broke as well and its advanced technology doesn't really seem to be that effective against guerilla tactics of the resistance they're facing. And then there's China which can always turn the tables around.

So what do you think will happen?

these tensions you speak of have always been there, go back twenty or forty years and it was no different. A war is no more likely to break out now than it was then.

Killer Pigeon

af_thefragile wrote: »

Also don't forget Ireland is now in the EU. If US requires more NATO support in its war, it could be very possible Irish troops would need to be deployed. Although the bigger impact will be economical rather than military/infrastructure.

Ireland never signed the North Atlantic Treaty and offensive warfare is in violation of the constitution's stance on neutrality.

sensibleken

Tension between the kurds and turks?
Tension on the Korean peninsula?
Tension between India and Pakistan?
Tension between Israel and Palestine?

.....is it 1950 again?

ReacherCreature

America is far more dangerous than Saddam, Iran and north korea could ever and will ever be, combined, twice.

What? What's your proof for this?

They are a rogue nation and a failed state out using their retard strength for their own economic ends.

'Failed state' 'rogue nation'. Back these up?

Confab wrote: »

WWIII won't affect us directly.

World War One had a considerable effect on this nation politically, seen in the Home Rule delays for example, and militarily in the fact that thousands served and thousands died abroad.

World War Two showed Ireland's benevolent 'neutrality' as we more sucked into the conflict 'behind' neutrality.

Three, if ever occurred would see Ireland play a role and will effect us, how big or small, no one knows.

Voltex

....have to laugh at all the USA bashers. Their annual GDP is in the region of 15 trillion dollars...thats 15 thousand billion dollars. Thats an economy 100 times bigger than our piddle of piss and 6 times bigger than the European superpower Germany.

Its about time we wake up and show a little respect!! The yanks are the boss and thats that! There is no other country in the whole wide world that can take on the role of Worlds police man....and TBH Id much rather fancey my chances with the good aul US of A in that role than the likes of China, Iran or Russia.
Hulkamania will never die!!!

Voltex

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Ireland never signed the North Atlantic Treaty and offensive warfare is in violation of the constitution's stance on neutrality.

did you know its actually illegal for the irish army to be within 150 miles of a war?
Youd have to ask what the fricken point of them is?

Daroxtar

Voltex wrote: »

....have to laugh at all the USA bashers. Their annual GDP is in the region of 15 trillion dollars...thats 15 thousand billion dollars. Thats an economy 100 times bigger than our piddle of piss and 6 times bigger than the European superpower Germany.

Its about time we wake up and show a little respect!! The yanks are the boss and thats that!

I dont care

Misty Chaos

There have always being tensions between certain countries around the world going back before recorded history. The threat will always be there but thats all it is, a threat.

The reason you hear so much about it in the media is to keep you in fear, fear of something that will probably never happen to begin with. Why? Because it all boils down thing; Money. The more paranoid the masses are, the more likely they are to buy into any outlandish ideas presented to them in the name of ' security. ' Look at America and the TSA for crying out loud, the fear economy is alive and well.

Fear is just a bad a weapon as that of guns. Fear is used by others to get their way at YOUR expense. Think about all the times parents, colleges and friends have used fear to make you conform, thats the use of fear as weapon. The problem here is that fear is used on a much larger scale to control the masses. We really don't need to go far to see how fear was used against us, anyone remember the whole headshop thing from last year?

You can choose to live in fear of what is really invisible evils or chose to just get on with your life. Do you best to point others away from fear but at the same time, its their own decision if they want to follow the crowd because they fear being looked down upon for being different. Screw them, you are your own person, they have to make their own mind up.

Just my own 2 cents.

The General.

af_thefragile wrote: »

Also don't forget Ireland is now in the EU. If US requires more NATO support in its war, it could be very possible Irish troops would need to be deployed. Although the bigger impact will be economical rather than military/infrastructure.

It wont happen. Ireland will not let their defence forces join in any military war. We are a neutrel(sp) country and staying that way. The Irish Government were already asked by the US Government could they have an army base here in Ireland when the war in Iraq was starting. In return, the US Government were gonna give Ireland a fair few black hawk helicopters plus other equipment as a gift. Ireland turned the offer down.
If we had of accepted that offer,the "terrorists" would now have their eyes looking at us,,,Infidels.

The General.

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

And the 1st and 2nd were?

Napoleon and Hitler.

RMD

If it does happen I'm going to war, dead serious. Who's with me?

The General.

RMD wrote: »

If it does happen I'm going to war, dead serious. Who's with me?

I'll watch ya from the tv in the local pub. LOL.

Pete M.

RMD wrote: »

... I'm going to war, dead serious.

You bet you are.

Who's with me?

No thanks.

I'm with Einstein on this one.

After it, there'll be fcuk all left.

Not that it's going to happen any time soon that is....

Athlone_Bhoy

Funny how people say Iran is going to start the war by attacking Israel. When was the last time Iran ever started a war?

Iran has never threatened Israel, what they do say is the day will come when Zionism will end. Kinda like saying you want Nazism but that doesn't mean you want Germany to be nuked. Israel has openly said they would use nuclear weapons.

Yet who is it everyone is afraid of?

RMD

Athlone_Bhoy wrote: »

Funny how people say Iran is going to start the war by attacking Israel. When was the last time Iran ever started a war?

Iran has never threatened Israel, what they do say is the day will come when Zionism will end. Kinda like saying you want Nazism but that doesn't mean you want Germany to be nuked. Israel has openly said they would use nuclear weapons.

Yet who is it everyone is afraid of?

I'm not trying to sound like some conspiracy nut but there's not a hope of British or American media portraying Israel as the bad guy, which sort of subliminally reverberates around all Western media. Israel is like a small kid with a big brother (Nukes and Western backing), piss off the small kid and he'll try to kick your ass, if he can't he'll call in his big strong brothers.

Iran though has claimed on many occasions it has no problem obliterating any opposition or country that attacks it. Once it achieves Nuclear / ICBM capabilities it's a very tense situation. Although it's military is pretty poor technology wise right now, it's constantly improving and posing more of a potential threat.

Athlone_Bhoy

RMD wrote: »

I'm not trying to sound like some conspiracy nut but there's not a hope of British or American media portraying Israel as the bad guy, which sort of subliminally reverberates around all Western media. Israel is like a small kid with a big brother (Nukes and Western backing), piss off the small kid and he'll try to kick your ass, if he can't he'll call in his big strong brothers.

Your right that's why I don't believe the crap media say. Look at Israel and Hezbollah when they were fighting the news knew the names of the soliders but not on the other side. News channels are puppets that are controlled by the country they're in. Britianfor example has control over BBC, Ireland over rte etc etc.

rQUOTE=RMD;69954698]an though has claimed on many occasions it has no problem obliterating any opposition or country that attacks it. Once it achieves Nuclear / ICBM capabilities it's a very tense situation. Although it's military is pretty poor technology wise right now, it's constantly improving and posing more of a potential threat.[/QUOTE]

Well then don't bloody attack them. If I had nukes and the leader of a country if I was getting beaten I'd have no trouble using them, but the thing is when you have them you won't be attacked. Israel have said many time will will turn Iran into a nuclear waste ground and their the one's that have the Nukes. Personally the quicker Iran get them the better and let's fact it if NK can build them I'm sure any other country can.

Editing on a Iphone is a **** so sorrry if post is messed up.

ascanbe

RMD wrote: »

I'm not trying to sound like some conspiracy nut but there's not a hope of British or American media portraying Israel as the bad guy, which sort of subliminally reverberates around all Western media. Israel is like a small kid with a big brother (Nukes and Western backing), piss off the small kid and he'll try to kick your ass, if he can't he'll call in his big strong brothers.

Iran though has claimed on many occasions it has no problem obliterating any opposition or country that attacks it. Once it achieves Nuclear / ICBM capabilities it's a very tense situation. Although it's military is pretty poor technology wise right now, it's constantly improving and posing more of a potential threat.

If your younger brother keeps acting like a cnut and unnessecarily starting stuff, though, you rein him in and tell him to cop on.

jimmycrackcorm

WW3 would be great - we'd finally get new maps for COD.

Dionysus

wonton wrote: »

unfortunately the irish people that fight don't get that much recognition from their own country because of it being the british army.

Why 'unfortunately'? It's not as if they're joining that army (or any other state's army) to fight for world peace. The battle attracts the warrior, as they say, but only as long as the warrior is paid. It's a practical decision, and a personal choice. There's nothing 'romantic' or 'courageous' about it, particularly in these times of 'smart' weaponry where they can seriously reduce their vulnerability to attack from already incomparably under-armed, less technologically-sophisticated opponents.

All-in-all it sounds like a handy number.

Capt'n Midnight

af_thefragile wrote: »

All the signs suggest its imminent. USA is pushing its troops into Pakistan. There is mounting tension between the Kurds and Turks. All signs signal an attack on Iran to only be a matter of time. Over to the east, there is growing tension between N.Korea and S.Korea. China is becoming stronger by the day and will soon be challenging USA economically. While the west is getting more broke by the day! There's also growing tensions between India and Pakistan over the Kashmir issue. And there's the eternal dispute between Palestine and Israel which can be the trigger point that sets off this new global war.

Couple this with the fact Obama just signed for the largest military budget US history of over $800billion.

Looks like the stage is set for WW3.

What do you think might happen? What would the world be like if WW3 does take place?

Its definitely not going to be like WW2 where the Allied and Axis were pretty much equally matched on power and technology. The stage is very different now. USA is extremely powerful and technological advanced but at the same time extremely broke as well and its advanced technology doesn't really seem to be that effective against guerilla tactics of the resistance they're facing. And then there's China which can always turn the tables around.

So what do you think will happen?

I'm tired of people spreading FUD

Fear Uncertainty and Doubt


Tension in the middle east. Explain how this is news. They've been kicking seven kinds of crap out of each other for the last 7,000 years. If it wasn't for the oil no one would care.

Meanwhile the Congo civil war has resulted in more deaths than the Korean or Vietnamese wars or all the wars in the middle east since accurate records began


India and Pakistan - do you realise how many wars these guys have had with each others, and apart from Bangladesh getting independence it tends to return to the status quo after a while.

The recent invasion of The Lebanon by Israel showed that even though one side had all the technology they couldn't take out the dispersed groups. They tried targeting mobile phones, but the lads just arranged phone calls at pre arranged times and kept the phones off in between, and moved to a different location to make the calls. War games by the Pentagon showed that the US could expect to loose a carrier in the Gulf to Iranians suicide bombers in speed boats. They changed the rules in the games twice and still lost.

US have been making noises on Iran since the Shah was kicked out. He was put in by a CIA coup. The US has made noises about NK for ages too. Still making noises about Cuba.

Until people understand that sabre rattling is part of diplomacy they will continue to get frightened long before it gets to brinkmanship.

Most of the money the US military spend will be wasted on stuff to defend against enemies they don't have. ( Apart form China and Russia, anyone else spending more that a few percent of the US budget is probably an ally) B2 bombers costing over a billion each are used to drop dumb bombs on insurgents. Since they have complete air superiority they could use cargo planes. Or since they would be within a few miles they could use artillery , or if in a hurry they could call in a local air strike with a harrier instead of an F22 or F35.

Look at the littoral support ship it's a as bad as the Royal Navy sacraficing carriers so they can have air defence destroyers that cost more than half what a carrier costs and can't remotely compare to the capability of a Combat Air Patrol

You rightly point out that it's hard to defeat guerilla warfare, which means few countries actually get away with an invasion.

LETHAL LADY

Do you not think Afganistan and Iraq are world war 3 anyway.

PS A bit sloshed.

Capt'n Midnight

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Do you not think Afganistan and Iraq are world war 3 anyway.

PS A bit sloshed.

Nah, not even close

even the "first" Gulf war was far worse, Iran-Iraq, when everyone was selling arms to both sides, and they were firing missiles at each other's cities