Most Evil Ever?

admiralofthefleet

nero and caligula were both nut jobs

af_thefragile

THFC wrote: »

I wasn't disputing it, just making sure! Because as you say the list of conspriacy theories is endless, especially the one's against the US government.

Yeah, I just mentioned the ones there is clear evidence of. Its well known CIA backed the coup against Salvador Alleande in Chile to bring in Pinochet, the coup against Mossadegh to bring in the Shah in Iran and Suharto was very close to US as well. He pretty much single handedly destroyed Indonesia's economy by taking massive debts from the World Bank and IMF which he kept some of for his own personal use and the rest went back to US firms which built some pointless infrastructure in the country which was of no benefit to the people. He is also responsible for the genocide of atleast 100,000 people in East Timor.

Pinochet, Suharto and Saddam Hussein all committed genocide and all were backed by USA.

Omar Torrijos in Panama is a slightly different story. He was very popular among the people. He was also working on bringing the Panama Canal back into Panama. He was a socialist and didn't agree to american plans and policies. There is no clear evidence that it was USA who killed him but its pretty obvious it was CIA planned. No one else would have wanted him dead apart from the CIA. He was loved by the people of his country.

Similar story with Hugo Chavez. The people of venezuela love him. The only people who hate him are the rich who own the oil fields whom Chavez won't allow to sell their oil to USA.

You could say that about Ahmedijanad as well. It is hard to separate the truth from the propaganda against him. USA is pretty much set for a war with Iran. Its only a matter of time before US invades and attackes Iran. Its got the country surrounded by its troops. UK has told all the British citizens to leave Iran and the neighboring countries in case the war breaks out.

Its weird times. Western economies are completely broke but the war mongering goes on endlessly!

Also if you get the right estimates (not the 'official' watered down for media figures), then the death toll in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan due to the war has easily surpassed a million and its counting. If the war spreads into Iran, expect another 100000-200000 casualties.

And then if the matters escalate further, which they inevitably will, Pakistan is gonna be the first to get involved (probably even before Iran, tons of US troops already in Pakistan), then Iran and eventually all of Middle East, along with Turkey, Kurdistan and those regions, it'll be WW3 and this war will be worse than any war ever seen before.

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

:rolleyes: I love how people will skip over dictators and murderers who use their own FREE WILL to decide to kill their own people or other people and simply skip straight to the connection with the USA as the connection is obviously much much worse than the action of killing.

Getting a bit old using the I hate USA tactic, yawn! Plus the whole Bush and Blair as bad as anyone on this thread (Hitler, Stalin etc.) makes you look like an absolute joke. Read some books.

Guess it totally depends on what books you read!

Sure Hitler and Stalin committed genocide.

But you can't put off what USA is doing right now saying its nothing compared to what Hitler and Stalin did. Over a million people have died due to America's war and there seems to be no end to it.
Someone has to be accountable for all these deaths. There was clear evidence Saddam had no WMDs and neither was he in any way linked to Al-Qaeda. The evidence was made up for an excuse to go to war. I believe everyone knows that by this stage. USA went to war in Iraq out of its FREE WILL. And so did UK join in out of its free will.

And why are they pushing into Pakistan and Iran now?! How many more are going to die?
Would you blame all these deaths on Osama bin Laden? Whom no one has no clue of where he is and if he's even alive!


Forget it, I know the rhetoric, "if we don't fight them, they'll fight us", "we're only protecting our borders" and all that crap. There's no point arguing this. Lots of arguments already around.

Krusader

af_thefragile wrote: »

Its weird times. Western economies are completely broke but the war mongering goes on endlessly!

We both now why, and who is going to profit from it, the bankers
Chavez will end up been assassinated by the CIA aswell

Plug

Teddy tedson must be dying to make a post now. I can see the sweat pouring out of his username.

The Waltzing Consumer

af_thefragile wrote: »

Yeah, I just mentioned the ones there is clear evidence of. Its well known CIA backed the coup against Salvador Alleande in Chile to bring in Pinochet, the coup against Mossadegh to bring in the Shah in Iran and Suharto was very close to US as well. He pretty much single handedly destroyed Indonesia's economy by taking massive debts from the World Bank and IMF which he kept some of for his own personal use and the rest went back to US firms which built some pointless infrastructure in the country which was of no benefit to the people. He is also responsible for the genocide of atleast 100,000 people in East Timor.

Pinochet, Suharto and Saddam Hussein all committed genocide and all were backed by USA.

Omar Torrijos in Panama is a slightly different story. He was very popular among the people. He was also working on bringing the Panama Canal back into Panama. He was a socialist and didn't agree to american plans and policies. There is no clear evidence that it was USA who killed him but its pretty obvious it was CIA planned. No one else would have wanted him dead apart from the CIA. He was loved by the people of his country.

Similar story with Hugo Chavez. The people of venezuela love him. The only people who hate him are the rich who own the oil fields whom Chavez won't allow to sell their oil to USA.

You could say that about Ahmedijanad as well. It is hard to separate the truth from the propaganda against him. USA is pretty much set for a war with Iran. Its only a matter of time before US invades and attackes Iran. Its got the country surrounded by its troops. UK has told all the British citizens to leave Iran and the neighboring countries in case the war breaks out.

Its weird times. Western economies are completely broke but the war mongering goes on endlessly!

Also if you get the right estimates (not the 'official' watered down for media figures), then the death toll in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan due to the war has easily surpassed a million and its counting. If the war spreads into Iran, expect another 100000-200000 casualties.

And then if the matters escalate further, which they inevitably will, Pakistan is gonna be the first to get involved (probably even before Iran, tons of US troops already in Pakistan), then Iran and eventually all of Middle East, along with Turkey, Kurdistan and those regions, it'll be WW3 and this war will be worse than any war ever seen before.


Guess it totally depends on what books you read!

Sure Hitler and Stalin committed genocide.

But you can't put off what USA is doing right now saying its nothing compared to what Hitler and Stalin did. Over a million people have died due to America's war and there seems to be no end to it.
Someone has to be accountable for all these deaths. There was clear evidence Saddam had no WMDs and neither was he in any way linked to Al-Qaeda. The evidence was made up for an excuse to go to war. I believe everyone knows that by this stage. USA went to war in Iraq out of its FREE WILL. And so did UK join in out of its free will.

And why are they pushing into Pakistan and Iran now?! How many more are going to die?
Would you blame all these deaths on Osama bin Laden? Whom no one has no clue of where he is and if he's even alive!


Forget it, I know the rhetoric, "if we don't fight them, they'll fight us", "we're only protecting our borders" and all that crap. There's no point arguing this. Lots of arguments already around.

Oh dear, I know the perfect guy for you, he used to be a drummer in this popular family group. You would have a lot to talk about and hey, stuff might happen, so what if his hand slips under the table whilst you give this spiel?
You interested?

wonton

Ironically enough there was a list of the 10 most evil humans on list verse the other day. I was actually pleased to see cromwell on it as he is usually avoided especially by brittish media.

warning though, some of this is really sicking stuff....



http://listverse.com/2010/12/31/top-10-most-evil-humans/

steddyeddy

Ivan the terrible wasnt the nicest either

galwayrush

The OP is if this thread lives to 666 posts.:eek:

Krusader

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

Oh dear, I know the perfect guy for you, he used to be a drummer in this popular family group. You would have a lot to talk about and hey, stuff might happen, so what if his hand slips under the table whilst you give this spiel?
You interested?

There's cartoons so you'll understand:D

dr ro

surprised nobody's mentioned Josef mengele, or that other testicle beating mofo or other nazi doctors. I think to be truly evil you have to be able to look someone in the eye as you do some nasty sh1t to them or kill them. But to sit in an office or at a desk and write off x amount of people is just mental.

squeakyduck

You beat me to it. I did a research project on Auschwitz and the **** that he did made for absolutely vile reading.

Josef Mengele was an absolute monster.

fontanalis

Selected wrote: »

That's because he's a hero - bring it on ADL - and Tony is such a Germanic name, thank God; welcome to the family nator!

I have absolutely no faith in the Sapien, Sapien.

Ooh controversial.

steddyeddy

squeakyduck wrote: »

You beat me to it. I did a research project on Auschwitz and the **** that he did made for absolutely vile reading.

Josef Mengele was an absolute monster.

not to take anything away from the c*nt that is menegle personally I think this guy was as bad Shiro Ishii the head of japans unit 731 during the war!

fontanalis

af_thefragile wrote: »

Yeah, I just mentioned the ones there is clear evidence of. Its well known CIA backed the coup against Salvador Alleande in Chile to bring in Pinochet, the coup against Mossadegh to bring in the Shah in Iran and Suharto was very close to US as well. He pretty much single handedly destroyed Indonesia's economy by taking massive debts from the World Bank and IMF which he kept some of for his own personal use and the rest went back to US firms which built some pointless infrastructure in the country which was of no benefit to the people. He is also responsible for the genocide of atleast 100,000 people in East Timor.

Pinochet, Suharto and Saddam Hussein all committed genocide and all were backed by USA.

Omar Torrijos in Panama is a slightly different story. He was very popular among the people. He was also working on bringing the Panama Canal back into Panama. He was a socialist and didn't agree to american plans and policies. There is no clear evidence that it was USA who killed him but its pretty obvious it was CIA planned. No one else would have wanted him dead apart from the CIA. He was loved by the people of his country.

Similar story with Hugo Chavez. The people of venezuela love him. The only people who hate him are the rich who own the oil fields whom Chavez won't allow to sell their oil to USA.

You could say that about Ahmedijanad as well. It is hard to separate the truth from the propaganda against him. USA is pretty much set for a war with Iran. Its only a matter of time before US invades and attackes Iran. Its got the country surrounded by its troops. UK has told all the British citizens to leave Iran and the neighboring countries in case the war breaks out.

Its weird times. Western economies are completely broke but the war mongering goes on endlessly!

Also if you get the right estimates (not the 'official' watered down for media figures), then the death toll in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan due to the war has easily surpassed a million and its counting. If the war spreads into Iran, expect another 100000-200000 casualties.

And then if the matters escalate further, which they inevitably will, Pakistan is gonna be the first to get involved (probably even before Iran, tons of US troops already in Pakistan), then Iran and eventually all of Middle East, along with Turkey, Kurdistan and those regions, it'll be WW3 and this war will be worse than any war ever seen before.


Guess it totally depends on what books you read!

Sure Hitler and Stalin committed genocide.

But you can't put off what USA is doing right now saying its nothing compared to what Hitler and Stalin did. Over a million people have died due to America's war and there seems to be no end to it.
Someone has to be accountable for all these deaths. There was clear evidence Saddam had no WMDs and neither was he in any way linked to Al-Qaeda. The evidence was made up for an excuse to go to war. I believe everyone knows that by this stage. USA went to war in Iraq out of its FREE WILL. And so did UK join in out of its free will.

And why are they pushing into Pakistan and Iran now?! How many more are going to die?
Would you blame all these deaths on Osama bin Laden? Whom no one has no clue of where he is and if he's even alive!


Forget it, I know the rhetoric, "if we don't fight them, they'll fight us", "we're only protecting our borders" and all that crap. There's no point arguing this. Lots of arguments already around.

The majority of these deaths are from militants, but the people who started the war should have had some idea of the implications.
There isn't a snowmans chance in hell the US will invade Iran, not going to happen. Whatever about an attack there won't be an invasion.

CantGetNoSleep

George W. Bush is up there

WhiteMan32

Mick Philpott has to be on the shortlist

Necro

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