Deadmau5 ****e all over Beatport

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

Yeah but selling a load of tracks on Beatport doesn't make you famous. Once the "Brand" was established he became famous.

huh??
He wasn't just number one on the prog chart....every remix he did was in the top ten overall. You literally could not navigate through beatport without seeing his name everywhere.
I suppose it depends on what your definition of famous is, but everyone knew who he was long before he even played in Europe.
Maybe his absolute megastar status was significantly helped by the mouse head gimmick, but he would have been a big name producer either way.

jtsuited

scott.s wrote: »

Probably because he once made a comment about DJs and now everyone on here is against him no matter what the music sounds like :rolleyes:

Meh, his comment about DJs was really not much to get bothered by but a lot of people really did. And I know it won't go down well here but there was a good bit of truth in what he said.

Personally, I think his music has progressively got worse since he first broke, and wouldn't dream of listening to him, but I can see exactly why he became so massive.

Also, because he hasn't had to do any arse-lickin, he is brutally honest about his opinion of himself. Which really offends people, as he (like 99% of all artists) thinks he's great.

Compared to a lot of producers out there, the guy's actually not that much of an egomaniac (and that's saying something). It's just that he hasn't had to play the diplomacy game so doesn't give a flying fcuk.

Everyone wants commercially successful artists to be humble-down to earth-working class hero types but in reality most are narcissistic egotists who are skilled in hiding the fact.
The hate for Deadmau5 everywhere on the internet is exactly why.

BaZmO*

jtsuited wrote: »

huh??
He wasn't just number one on the prog chart....every remix he did was in the top ten overall. You literally could not navigate through beatport without seeing his name everywhere.
I suppose it depends on what your definition of famous is, but everyone knew who he was long before he even played in Europe.
Maybe his absolute megastar status was significantly helped by the mouse head gimmick, but he would have been a big name producer either way.

I suppose I was talking about megastar status. I never use(d) Beatport so can’t really comment on his proliferation, past or present, but I’m certain that the average Joe a couple of years hadn’t a clue who he was, and that the whole Mousehead schtick has helped him with his recent epic popularity which includes the airtime he seems to be getting on daytime radio.

scott.s

He must be doing something right if there's threads on here every month talking about him (any publicity is good publicity and all that)

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

I suppose I was talking about megastar status. I never use(d) Beatport so can’t really comment on his proliferation, past or present, but I’m certain that the average Joe a couple of years hadn’t a clue who he was, and that the whole Mousehead schtick has helped him with his recent epic popularity which includes the airtime he seems to be getting on daytime radio.

yeah I hear ya. I forget about his household name status all the time as I tend to be clueless about who 'household names' are.

Android 666

jtsuited wrote: »

yeah I hear ya. I forget about his household name status all the time as I tend to be clueless about who 'household names' are.

Ah surely you know the dance acts that have become household names. There's really not that many of them…

Back to Deadmau5, I have only ever used Beatport to buy stuff after it has been recommended here so I've never looked through the charts after hearing quite negative things about them here.

After listening to some of the tunes I am mystified why he is so hated and equally mystified by why he is so loved. The stuff is well bland… I can't figure why he inspires such debate…

jtsuited

Android 666 wrote: »

Ah surely you know the dance acts that have become household names. There's really not that many of them…

A while ago I would have known, but not now. My only real contact with that world is when the missus has the telly remote.

Android 666

Ah, I bet you're a secret Heat reader.

jtsuited

Android 666 wrote: »

Ah, I bet you're a secret Heat reader.

Funnily enough the only time I've ever read anything like that is in the waiting room of a medical professional.
Probably the reason I don't like going to doctors and dentists.
Unless there's a stack of National Geographics there. Then it's a bloody bonanza of geekiness, reading about how unexpected temperature rises are changing Greenland's landscape for the better. Thread derailed.

BaZmO*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J-1BFkah1U

This was the song I heard yesterday. Very poppy. I suppose that's why he's so popular. I'm sure tracks like that are getting lots of radio and dishkotec play.

Also, would it be fair to say that he's a bit of a poster boy for the download generation? Especially for dance music.

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J-1BFkah1U

Also, would it be fair to say that he's a bit of a poster boy for the download generation? Especially for dance music.

Yes he's THE poster boy. The guy was killing the download market before the more traditional media outlets (Mixmag etc.) even mentioned him. When he got that management deal, things went properly massive with the tours, collaborations etc.

RMD

BaZmO* wrote: »

Why do people get so annoyed when producers change their sound? Is it not part of growing as an artist?

There's a difference between progressing your career and going where the money is. Deadmau5 was already a well established artist while he was producing Prog house. Then he saw the mighty dollar sign and went to Electro house and now he's venturing into Dubstep because coincidentally that genres also growing eh?

I don't think Deadmau5 changed into these genres to grow, he changed to them because that's where the money was. He's not even producing good quality music in these genres either by the successful artists standards. He's only selling because of his name and it appeals to all those people who claim to be into dance music yet they couldn't name any other artists than Deadmau5, Guetta and Calvin Harris etc. I still like his Prog house stuff as said, but I have no respect for him as a producer, IMO as I've said he's the Lady Gaga of dance music. Constantly pumping out ****e because he knows people will buy it.

milltown

BaZmO* wrote: »

epic popularity which includes the airtime he seems to be getting on daytime radio.

^ This is why my radio only gets switched from Newstalk to TodayFM when there's football on.

cheesemaker

Popularity doesn't mean your not sh!t.
Same applies to beatport as it goes.
Having half naked women on your videos is usually a good indication.

But its really simple if you don't like it don't listen to it.
There should be more then enough good music to kepp you distracted

Scubadevils

I don't think I've actually ever listened to anything by him either - the image and general hatred for him put me off ever even listening - I'll give it a blast later when I'm home, by midnight I could be a new Mau5 fanboy...

Eddie Ere

Scubadevils wrote: »

I don't think I've actually ever listened to anything by him either - the image and general hatred for him put me off ever even listening - I'll give it a blast later when I'm home, by midnight I could be a new Mau5 fanboy...

....then hanging up your mod hat?

Scubadevils

Eddie Ere wrote: »

....then hanging up your mod hat?

Sh1t, its almost 12 and I haven't listened to him yet!

jonnny68

Scubadevils wrote: »

Sh1t, its almost 12 and I haven't listened to him yet!

with remixes like this you dont really want to...absolutely shocking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCTACNUzlNY

Scubadevils

Ok I've just had my first Deadmau5 experience. It went like this...

1. Entered 'Deadmau5' into the search window in youtube... note that before I got as far as the M the first suggested result was Deadmau5.

2. I chose the first video which is 'Ghosts n Stuff'. My opinion is that its not my cup of tea and I'll leave it at that... interesting the vocals at the end where he has a voice ranting about people on message boards...

3. The comments say it all though in terms of his fan base... also over 12m views of this track alone. My most viewed track on my youtube channel is 'Preacherman' by Green Velvet, I put that up about 2 years ago and it has 185k views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV8eiSA4vqc

this song gives me a boner

UnrealQuickscopers 23 hours ago 103

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The "house" genre should be renamed to "hau5"

DJmit7y 12 hours ago 89

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i am the only person that loves deadmau5 at my school =(

CaptainMcMillin 13 minutes ago

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if only i wasnt only person at my school who likes deadmau5 -.- its a horrible thing

technorulez616 23 minutes ago

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i love deadmau5.see im 13 and im like the only one that gets this music that i know

thmau55 1 hour ago

Anyway, he does what he does and there is clearly a market for it so why not.

ro_chez

Apart from the fact that he's a sellout with his latest productions, I just think it's comical that he's currently number 4 in the djmag top 100 "dj's" when he has previously said this!

highlydebased

Scubadevils wrote: »

Ok I've just had my first Deadmau5 experience. It went like this...

1. Entered 'Deadmau5' into the search window in youtube... note that before I got as far as the M the first suggested result was Deadmau5.

2. I chose the first video which is 'Ghosts n Stuff'. My opinion is that its not my cup of tea and I'll leave it at that... interesting the vocals at the end where he has a voice ranting about people on message boards...

Ghosts n Stuff doesnt do him any justice I think (or anything from that entire album, I'm not sure what that says...)

CoDy1

Not his biggest fan but he has one or two fantastic tracks especially earlier on but i wouldn't have any beef against him regardless of what he has said. The lad has simply gone commercial without dramatically changing his sound (except the dubstep, that needs to stop now) and is raking in a lot of cash for his efforts. I'm a bitch for his 'I said' Michael Woods remix.

Alot of people think they know what dance/electronic is but in fairness it is completely subjective.

Android 666

ro_chez wrote: »

Apart from the fact that he's a sellout with his latest productions, I just think it's comical that he's currently number 4 in the djmag top 100 "dj's" when he has previously said this!

Don't get the problem with him saying most DJs are sh!t. I think if people were honest about it they'd probably agree with it.

RMD

Android 666 wrote: »

Don't get the problem with him saying most DJs are sh!t. I think if people were honest about it they'd probably agree with it.

True, but as he said DJs were his number 1 customer, and a producer will never got exposure in the dance music industry unless DJs are playing his songs. To call the people who essentially helped start his career *****, well that's just bollox.

jtsuited

RMD wrote: »

True, but as he said DJs were his number 1 customer, and a producer will never got exposure in the dance music industry unless DJs are playing his songs. To call the people who essentially helped start his career *****, well that's just bollox.

Hmmmm....not really. It was only ever really Pete Tong that gave his stuff the big support, and he really just took it from there.
He is right though about DJ's. Most of them are talentless overpaid dick-heads.
I have no idea why people get so annoyed with him saying that, considering it's said here on a weekly basis and nobody would disagree.

eeloe

Gonna go out on the usual "i liked him before everyone else did" kinda buzz!

I remember hearing his BSOD stuff he done with Steve Duda many years ago, and then when he went his own way with the whole Mau5s thing, i was still a fan.

It was about 18 months ago that things blew up again with Orlando Voorn originally allowing him to remix Paco Di Bango's world, and then pulling the plug when the promo had been done!

He's one of the biggest electronic artists at the moment, he's getting a lot more people in to the scene due to that? I can't see a problem, if one doesn't like what they hear, one doesn't have to listen!
He went from playing Trinity Rooms in Limerick to nearly selling out the o2 in just under two years....that's quite an achievement if ya ask me!

Zascar

I liked him before anyone else did too lol. I even did a mix entirely of tunes by or remixed by him - and still at that stage no one knew who he was. Soon after he blew up he just started regurgitating the same sh1t and I stopped listening to him. If I listen to that mix I did way back then I still enjoy it but anything I have heard in the last year or so has been awful. I don't 'hate' him though. I respect the fact that he was willing to do something different with the mouse-head to make himself stand out from the crowd, and it worked fror him. It might now be what others would do, or want to do, but he's got to where he wanted to go. Not everyone craves the ultimate underground respect, some are just happy with the fame and the money. Some people have been able to do a bit of both - release commercial stuff to get well known but still release progressive high quality music in the underground scene, and still maintain their respect. This is probably what m5 should have done but there are lots of reasons why he didn't / couldn't

BaZmO*

eeloe wrote: »

....to nearly selling out the o2 in just under two years....that's quite an achievement if ya ask me!

Not that great of achievement if you ask me. Most acts sell out the O2 in 5mins now. It took him nearly 2 years. Maybe he's not as popular as everybody suggests.

eeloe

BaZmO* wrote: »

Not that great of achievement if you ask me. Most acts sell out the O2 in 5mins now. It took him nearly 2 years. Maybe he's not as popular as everybody suggests.

But for an electronic artist to do so?
i think it's quite an achievement....

BaZmO*

eeloe wrote: »

But for an electronic artist to do so?
i think it's quite an achievement....

Whoooooosh!!!