Deadmau5 ****e all over Beatport

kevthecelt

Whats going on, he's got about 8 songs in the top 10 electro house chart, a load in the Dubstep chart too, the tunes are terrible, is the label just buying a load of their own tunes to get exposure or what. It's been like this for the last 2 months!!!

Chloroplast

I was told that apparently the owner of beatport also owns a nightclub in the usa, and he gets deadmau5 much cheaper than the norm. there was sumit going on a while back with some law suit. perhaps that's it ?

http://www.heyreverb.com/2010/12/02/news-soco-club-kingpin-claims-monopoly-in-lawsuit-against-beta-beatport-honcho-alleges-coercion-of-deadmau5-dj-rap-others/


or alternatively ,electro cheese is just getting more popular,and the guys working on the site whose job it is to put the music into the right genres are just asleep at the wheel.

Quiggers

the masses love him, he has a new album, beat port is a cheap place to get mp3's. of course he's gonna hog the top, as will guetta's next. just dont lose sleep over it.

at least it's not sash!

Ardennes1944

he's ****

RMD

It's wrecking my head. Went into the Electro House chart there, Feed Me (John Gooch, aka Spor) who is alright but nothing great IMO is pretty much has most positions on the top 10, while the likes of Wolfgang Gartner who IMO is an amazing Electro House producer is only at 7 with "Space Junk", that song should be in top 3 definitely.

It's just a bunch of retards who instantly see Mau5trap as the label and think they must buy. Some of the recent stuff from Mau5trap is alright, I like a fair bit of Michael Woods and Moguais stuff, but the rest doesn't deserve anywhere near the level of success it's getting.

maxxie

Yep sick of beatports nut hugging, what other sites do people get their tunes from?

Zascar

www.whatpeopleplay.com

Pace2008

One of my mates played me a track riding high in the Beatport charts the other day; some dubstep abortion from some bloke on Deadmau5's label.

It was quite possibly the worst song I've ever heard in my life. Must try to find out the name of it.

jtsuited

skrillex probably.

YOP1992

jtsuited wrote: »

skrillex probably.

ew

Pace2008

Must try to erase name from memory.

ianuss

What has been heard, cannot be unheard.

electrogrimey

A lot of people suspect Mau5trap or whatever it's called of getting people to buy the tracks or using bots or whatever, because every release that comes out gets most of the EP into the top 10. Skrillex's ****e album had like 8 of the top 10 spots. It only takes a few thousands buys to so it wouldn't be hard.

jtsuited

electrogrimey wrote: »

A lot of people suspect Mau5trap or whatever it's called of getting people to buy the tracks or using bots or whatever, because every release that comes out gets most of the EP into the top 10. Skrillex's ****e album had like 8 of the top 10 spots. It only takes a few thousands buys to so it wouldn't be hard.

Meh, I very much doubt it. I know a few labels and artists who have done that type of thing.
Deadmau5 is the biggest guy in the world right now. Even when Faxing Berlin dropped, every top ten sales chart on there was awash with mau5 remixes. The beatport market love him and always have. He still has the biggest selling tune on there of all time.

Android 666

Do you know what? I don't think ever hear a Deadmau5 tune... I'm sure I probably have in the background and in clubs and that but I wouldn't know a Deadmau5 tune if it came on a Radio or in a club. I'll check him out on Youtube when I go home this evening but is he really that bad?

electrogrimey

Android 666 wrote: »

Do you know what? I don't think ever hear a Deadmau5 tune... I'm sure I probably have in the background and in clubs and that but I wouldn't know a Deadmau5 tune if it came on a Radio or in a club. I'll check him out on Youtube when I go home this evening but is he really that bad?

He's good at what he does, but what he does it **** and formulaic.

Pace2008

Android 666 wrote: »

Do you know what? I don't think ever hear a Deadmau5 tune... I'm sure I probably have in the background and in clubs and that but I wouldn't know a Deadmau5 tune if it came on a Radio or in a club. I'll check him out on Youtube when I go home this evening but is he really that bad?

I'm certain you'd have heard Ghosts 'n' Stuff at some stage.

I think his earlier stuff is pretty inoffensive but the level of success he’s achieved is completely disproportionate to his musical ability (though I guess this isn’t shocking given what tends to top the charts).

He’s also a complete dickhead.

scott.s

Android 666 wrote: »

I'll check him out on Youtube when I go home this evening but is he really that bad?

If you've never heard his stuff before then don't listen to the new tracks first.

Older tracks like Brazil, Arguru and definitely listen to Strobe. Even if people on here don't like deadmau5 in general, I'd say they'd like Strobe.


/deadmau5 fanboy

Four-Percent

Well I think he's really talented, and just misunderstood.

In fact, I think I love him.

YOP1992

electrogrimey wrote: »

He's good at what he does, but what he does it **** and formulaic.

not dubstep , hes most certainly not good at that!

electrogrimey

YOP1992 wrote: »

not dubstep , hes most certainly not good at that!

True, his attempts at dubstep are laughable, and his army of fanboys on Soundcloud are even funnier.

Eddie Ere

electrogrimey wrote: »

True, his attempts at dubstep are laughable, and his army of fanboys on Soundcloud are even funnier.

He has attempted dubstep?



Pfffffft hahaha

BaZmO*

Android 666 wrote: »

Do you know what? I don't think ever hear a Deadmau5 tune... I'm sure I probably have in the background and in clubs and that but I wouldn't know a Deadmau5 tune if it came on a Radio or in a club. I'll check him out on Youtube when I go home this evening but is he really that bad?

Yeah I'm the exact same.

Although I actually heard a song on Today FM this morning. Only heard a few seconds of it mind, very poppy, like the Tings Tings? I thought he played real banging trancey type stuff?

Pace2008 wrote: »

I'm certain you'd have heard Ghosts 'n' Stuff at some stage.

Just listening to that now. Yep, I've heard it before alright. Not the worst track in the world, but not really my cup of tea.

Android 666

Jesus lads I've listened to Faxing Berlin, Strobe and Ghosts and Stuff. The stuff is so inoffensive - why does it rile people so much?

Eddie Ere

Android 666 wrote: »

Jesus lads I've listened to Faxing Berlin, Strobe and Ghosts and Stuff. The stuff is so inoffensive - why does it rile people so much?

I've seen him live (for shame). He really doesn't have the talent to match the credit he has got.


Plus he went psycho at the audience when a drink cup landed on the stage. Tit

RMD

electrogrimey wrote: »

A lot of people suspect Mau5trap or whatever it's called of getting people to buy the tracks or using bots or whatever, because every release that comes out gets most of the EP into the top 10. Skrillex's ****e album had like 8 of the top 10 spots. It only takes a few thousands buys to so it wouldn't be hard.

The only thing I'd have to say against that is the Deadmau5 following seems to be mostly from teens and people into all the commercial dance and crap. They'd be the kind of crowd who'd be going straight to limewire to download the lastest Mau5 crap instead of paying actual money for it. Beatport being probably 1 of the top 3 download sites if not the top though, it would certainly draw in the Deadmau5 crowd who don't know any other sites.

scott.s wrote: »

If you've never heard his stuff before then don't listen to the new tracks first.

Older tracks like Brazil, Arguru and definitely listen to Strobe. Even if people on here don't like deadmau5 in general, I'd say they'd like Strobe.


/deadmau5 fanboy

Some of his older Prog house stuff I must admit I do like, will always like it as well to be quite honest. Once he started chasing the money going into Electro house and now Dubstep I lost all respect for him as a producer. Like some of his older muisc as said, but I can't stand the guy in terms of a producer. He's turned into the Lady Gaga of the dance music industry IMO.

ollie1

He only got famous because he wears the Mouse head when djing his tracks all sound the same and are pretty repetitive.
He has merchandise of everything he is more of a brand than a dj.

BaZmO*

RMD wrote: »

Once he started chasing the money going into Electro house and now Dubstep I lost all respect for him as a producer. Like some of his older muisc as said, but I can't stand the guy in terms of a producer. He's turned into the Lady Gaga of the dance music industry IMO.

Why do people get so annoyed when producers change their sound? Is it not part of growing as an artist?

ollie1 wrote: »

He only got famous because he wears the Mouse head when djing his tracks all sound the same and are pretty repetitive.
He has merchandise of everything he is more of a brand than a dj.

A lot of truth in that.

jtsuited

ollie1 wrote: »

He only got famous because he wears the Mouse head when djing his tracks all sound the same and are pretty repetitive.
He has merchandise of everything he is more of a brand than a dj.

not true unfortunately. He was absolutely dominating the beatport charts (outselling everyone by a huge amount) when all he had was a myspace with some dodgy photos of himself taken with a camera phone.
Then, the crass commodification started, and the 'brand' was built.

BaZmO*

jtsuited wrote: »

not true unfortunately. He was absolutely dominating the beatport charts (outselling everyone by a huge amount) when all he had was a myspace with some dodgy photos of himself taken with a camera phone.
Then, the crass commodification started, and the 'brand' was built.

Yeah but selling a load of tracks on Beatport doesn't make you famous. Once the "Brand" was established he became famous.

scott.s

Android 666 wrote: »

Jesus lads I've listened to Faxing Berlin, Strobe and Ghosts and Stuff. The stuff is so inoffensive - why does it rile people so much?

Probably because he once made a comment about DJs and now everyone on here is against him no matter what the music sounds like :rolleyes:

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

Yeah but selling a load of tracks on Beatport doesn't make you famous. Once the "Brand" was established he became famous.

huh??
He wasn't just number one on the prog chart....every remix he did was in the top ten overall. You literally could not navigate through beatport without seeing his name everywhere.
I suppose it depends on what your definition of famous is, but everyone knew who he was long before he even played in Europe.
Maybe his absolute megastar status was significantly helped by the mouse head gimmick, but he would have been a big name producer either way.

jtsuited

scott.s wrote: »

Probably because he once made a comment about DJs and now everyone on here is against him no matter what the music sounds like :rolleyes:

Meh, his comment about DJs was really not much to get bothered by but a lot of people really did. And I know it won't go down well here but there was a good bit of truth in what he said.

Personally, I think his music has progressively got worse since he first broke, and wouldn't dream of listening to him, but I can see exactly why he became so massive.

Also, because he hasn't had to do any arse-lickin, he is brutally honest about his opinion of himself. Which really offends people, as he (like 99% of all artists) thinks he's great.

Compared to a lot of producers out there, the guy's actually not that much of an egomaniac (and that's saying something). It's just that he hasn't had to play the diplomacy game so doesn't give a flying fcuk.

Everyone wants commercially successful artists to be humble-down to earth-working class hero types but in reality most are narcissistic egotists who are skilled in hiding the fact.
The hate for Deadmau5 everywhere on the internet is exactly why.

BaZmO*

jtsuited wrote: »

huh??
He wasn't just number one on the prog chart....every remix he did was in the top ten overall. You literally could not navigate through beatport without seeing his name everywhere.
I suppose it depends on what your definition of famous is, but everyone knew who he was long before he even played in Europe.
Maybe his absolute megastar status was significantly helped by the mouse head gimmick, but he would have been a big name producer either way.

I suppose I was talking about megastar status. I never use(d) Beatport so can’t really comment on his proliferation, past or present, but I’m certain that the average Joe a couple of years hadn’t a clue who he was, and that the whole Mousehead schtick has helped him with his recent epic popularity which includes the airtime he seems to be getting on daytime radio.

scott.s

He must be doing something right if there's threads on here every month talking about him (any publicity is good publicity and all that)

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

I suppose I was talking about megastar status. I never use(d) Beatport so can’t really comment on his proliferation, past or present, but I’m certain that the average Joe a couple of years hadn’t a clue who he was, and that the whole Mousehead schtick has helped him with his recent epic popularity which includes the airtime he seems to be getting on daytime radio.

yeah I hear ya. I forget about his household name status all the time as I tend to be clueless about who 'household names' are.

Android 666

jtsuited wrote: »

yeah I hear ya. I forget about his household name status all the time as I tend to be clueless about who 'household names' are.

Ah surely you know the dance acts that have become household names. There's really not that many of them…

Back to Deadmau5, I have only ever used Beatport to buy stuff after it has been recommended here so I've never looked through the charts after hearing quite negative things about them here.

After listening to some of the tunes I am mystified why he is so hated and equally mystified by why he is so loved. The stuff is well bland… I can't figure why he inspires such debate…

jtsuited

Android 666 wrote: »

Ah surely you know the dance acts that have become household names. There's really not that many of them…

A while ago I would have known, but not now. My only real contact with that world is when the missus has the telly remote.

Android 666

Ah, I bet you're a secret Heat reader.

jtsuited

Android 666 wrote: »

Ah, I bet you're a secret Heat reader.

Funnily enough the only time I've ever read anything like that is in the waiting room of a medical professional.
Probably the reason I don't like going to doctors and dentists.
Unless there's a stack of National Geographics there. Then it's a bloody bonanza of geekiness, reading about how unexpected temperature rises are changing Greenland's landscape for the better. Thread derailed.

BaZmO*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J-1BFkah1U

This was the song I heard yesterday. Very poppy. I suppose that's why he's so popular. I'm sure tracks like that are getting lots of radio and dishkotec play.

Also, would it be fair to say that he's a bit of a poster boy for the download generation? Especially for dance music.

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J-1BFkah1U

Also, would it be fair to say that he's a bit of a poster boy for the download generation? Especially for dance music.

Yes he's THE poster boy. The guy was killing the download market before the more traditional media outlets (Mixmag etc.) even mentioned him. When he got that management deal, things went properly massive with the tours, collaborations etc.

RMD

BaZmO* wrote: »

Why do people get so annoyed when producers change their sound? Is it not part of growing as an artist?

There's a difference between progressing your career and going where the money is. Deadmau5 was already a well established artist while he was producing Prog house. Then he saw the mighty dollar sign and went to Electro house and now he's venturing into Dubstep because coincidentally that genres also growing eh?

I don't think Deadmau5 changed into these genres to grow, he changed to them because that's where the money was. He's not even producing good quality music in these genres either by the successful artists standards. He's only selling because of his name and it appeals to all those people who claim to be into dance music yet they couldn't name any other artists than Deadmau5, Guetta and Calvin Harris etc. I still like his Prog house stuff as said, but I have no respect for him as a producer, IMO as I've said he's the Lady Gaga of dance music. Constantly pumping out ****e because he knows people will buy it.

milltown

BaZmO* wrote: »

epic popularity which includes the airtime he seems to be getting on daytime radio.

^ This is why my radio only gets switched from Newstalk to TodayFM when there's football on.

cheesemaker

Popularity doesn't mean your not sh!t.
Same applies to beatport as it goes.
Having half naked women on your videos is usually a good indication.

But its really simple if you don't like it don't listen to it.
There should be more then enough good music to kepp you distracted

Scubadevils

I don't think I've actually ever listened to anything by him either - the image and general hatred for him put me off ever even listening - I'll give it a blast later when I'm home, by midnight I could be a new Mau5 fanboy...

Eddie Ere

Scubadevils wrote: »

I don't think I've actually ever listened to anything by him either - the image and general hatred for him put me off ever even listening - I'll give it a blast later when I'm home, by midnight I could be a new Mau5 fanboy...

....then hanging up your mod hat?

Scubadevils

Eddie Ere wrote: »

....then hanging up your mod hat?

Sh1t, its almost 12 and I haven't listened to him yet!

jonnny68

Scubadevils wrote: »

Sh1t, its almost 12 and I haven't listened to him yet!

with remixes like this you dont really want to...absolutely shocking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCTACNUzlNY

Scubadevils

Ok I've just had my first Deadmau5 experience. It went like this...

1. Entered 'Deadmau5' into the search window in youtube... note that before I got as far as the M the first suggested result was Deadmau5.

2. I chose the first video which is 'Ghosts n Stuff'. My opinion is that its not my cup of tea and I'll leave it at that... interesting the vocals at the end where he has a voice ranting about people on message boards...

3. The comments say it all though in terms of his fan base... also over 12m views of this track alone. My most viewed track on my youtube channel is 'Preacherman' by Green Velvet, I put that up about 2 years ago and it has 185k views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV8eiSA4vqc

this song gives me a boner

UnrealQuickscopers 23 hours ago 103

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The "house" genre should be renamed to "hau5"

DJmit7y 12 hours ago 89

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i am the only person that loves deadmau5 at my school =(

CaptainMcMillin 13 minutes ago

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if only i wasnt only person at my school who likes deadmau5 -.- its a horrible thing

technorulez616 23 minutes ago

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i love deadmau5.see im 13 and im like the only one that gets this music that i know

thmau55 1 hour ago

Anyway, he does what he does and there is clearly a market for it so why not.

ro_chez

Apart from the fact that he's a sellout with his latest productions, I just think it's comical that he's currently number 4 in the djmag top 100 "dj's" when he has previously said this!