Ladies....make up or not to make up?

pastry2010

I recently had a discussion with my boyfriend and then with my friends about the topic of make-up, I wear a generous amount if I have plans for the day or when I go out at night. My boyfriend has made comments about me wearing too much foundation and I get a little hurt over it, I had quite bad skin was I was in my teens right up to when I was about 24, so I have always felt more comfortable and confident with make up on. I am a make-up artist by trade and I have a real passion for it so I take my time and love when people compliment it and ask my advice on it - my question is Do boyfriends ever remark on whether they like their ladies without make up or with make up and Can they win either way if they say they prefer one over the other????
Px

krudler

Subtle amounts are good, overdoing it to oompa loompa levels are bad.

Sibylla

In my experience men seem to favour the natural look, wearing a little but not too much. If it makes you feel better about yourself then why not? It's really only your opinion that counts. Your boyfriend probably doesn't realise he is being insensitive it wouldn't hurt to mention it to him. I've never worn too much make up as I don't think it suits me but I know girls it looks fantastic on.

mariebeth

For me, I only really wear make up if I'm going out, I just can't be bothered in the morning to be getting up & putting it on. Given a choice, I'd prefer 5 more minutes in bed than 5 minutes in front of the mirror. There is a small part of me sometimes though, when I see these girls who look great, have their hair & make up done nicely during the day and are dressed nicely, when I wish I could be like that too. I don't think I ever will be though!

Personally, as long as you feel that you look good, it's up to you whether you wear make up or not. Feeling good for yourself is the most important thing at the end of the day

Princess Peach

I wear make up every day I leave the house. Not huge amounts, takes 5/10 minutes to do. I'd prefer to be late to work than show up with no make up! I do it to feel more confident in myself, not to attract boys though. I just think I look awful without any on. I do always have the freak out when a boyfriend sees me without make up for the first time, but all I've ever gotten is "Don't be silly, you're grand!"

nesbitt

I always wear a little make up. I have come to the conclusion that the 'me but better' look is really best.

I invest my limited disposable fund in good quality foundation (YSL) applied with brush (Mac). Eyeliner (Bobby Brown, gel liner) on top lash line, mascara (Loreal, Telescopic). Tinted balm (Rose Vaseline) or gloss (Juicy Tube, Caramel Gospel) and I'm good to go.

Way too much slap is never a good look, and indeed can be so very aging. I have seen pretty girls looking better without the make up so be warned. In my view less is more, just like to look as if I care for myself.

In my view drag queen, over the top make up, is to be avoided at all costs.

Scarinae

My boyfriend really does prefer me without makeup on. He admits that I look a bit better with a bit of makeup, but he still prefers me without. Mental.

I usually just wear eye makeup and a bit of concealer. Foundation etc is reserved for going out, although when I was working in an office I often wore a bit of tinted moisturiser.

liah

krudler wrote: »

Subtle amounts are good, overdoing it to oompa loompa levels are bad.

This echoes the statements of men all across boards. But all you have to do is check tLL's picture thread (last few pages) and compare thanks ratios to know that's not true. Men like the fake blonde hair and super-tan more than they'd like to admit.

I like makeup, but I only started wearing it once I hit my 20's, which was very late compared to most. I get by just fine without it, but I prefer it-- it's fun and I enjoy the ritual. I wear it every day wherever I go, but again, if I was without it for a couple days it really wouldn't bother me too much.

I find it's pretty difficult to describe my relationship with makeup; it's just like clothes or accessories or a haircut to me. I'm still me, a bit of paint on my face doesn't change it, and it's a form of expression same as anything else.

newbee22

I only wear make up if I'm going on a night out, never wear it going to work.

pastry2010

I have run out of make up before for 2-3 days and I get seriously depressed, I have attended work without it and the jokers of the office make comments about how pale I am and go out of their way to tell me I look tired and not myself....I am taking this as a big hint that I suit make up and that I need it!!:D I like to feel good!and going back blonde this year and having my make up, I feel my confidence come back, I am not vain in any way and I am the last person to give myself a compliment but when I am out by myself or even with my boyfriend I get looks and get chatted up quite alot, If I walk down the street without any make up on...I wouldn't get a single glance!Not that its important!!!but the difference is make up makes a huge difference to how I look!and I think my boyfriend doesn't like it because of that:(

Princess Peach

pastry2010 wrote: »

I have run out of make up before for 2-3 days and I get seriously depressed, I have attended work without it and the jokers of the office make comments about how pale I am and go out of their way to tell me I look tired and not myself....I am taking this as a big hint that I suit make up and that I need it!!:D I like to feel good!and going back blonde this year and having my make up, I feel my confidence come back, I am not vain in any way and I am the last person to give myself a compliment but when I am out by myself or even with my boyfriend I get looks and get chatted up quite alot, If I walk down the street without any make up on...I wouldn't get a single glance!Not that its important!!!but the difference is make up makes a huge difference to how I look!and I think my boyfriend doesn't like it because of that:(

I have gone 2 days in public this year without make up on, and both of the days I had so many people comment about how tired I looked! Way to boost my confidence like :pac:

krudler

liah wrote: »

This echoes the statements of men all across boards. But all you have to do is check tLL's picture thread (last few pages) and compare thanks ratios to know that's not true. Men like the fake blonde hair and super-tan more than they'd like to admit.

I like makeup, but I only started wearing it once I hit my 20's, which was very late compared to most. I get by just fine without it, but I prefer it-- it's fun and I enjoy the ritual. I wear it every day wherever I go, but again, if I was without it for a couple days it really wouldn't bother me too much.

I find it's pretty difficult to describe my relationship with makeup; it's just like clothes or accessories or a haircut to me. I'm still me, a bit of paint on my face doesn't change it, and it's a form of expression same as anything else.

Is tLL pic thanking the new facebook stalking :pac:

liah

krudler wrote: »

Is tLL pic thanking the new facebook stalking :pac:

Apparently so :pac: But I assume you know what I'm talking about.. I don't wanna reference it outright because it'll just be taken as catty and it's not fair to single out a poster, but I'm just making a point-- men can decry makeup all they want, but that thanks count speaks for itself.

And there's nothing wrong with that, either, she's a gorgeous girl!

I never understood the types who judge on whether a girl does or doesn't wear makeup. The ones who don't inevitably feel "better" than the girls who do and/or vice versa. Who cares, makeup is fun, do whatever the hell ya like and screw the nay-sayers.

The_Morrigan

I never leave the house without make up on (foundation/blush),
Thankfully my style is subtle and most don't realise I'm wearing it until I use eyeliner & mascara, then I get comments like....oh you're wearing makeup who you trying to impress etc etc :rolleyes:

Princess Peach

liah wrote: »

Apparently so :pac: But I assume you know what I'm talking about.. I don't wanna reference it outright because it'll just be taken as catty and it's not fair to single out a poster, but I'm just making a point-- men can decry makeup all they want, but that thanks count speaks for itself.

And there's nothing wrong with that, either, she's a gorgeous girl!

I never understood the types who judge on whether a girl does or doesn't wear makeup. The ones who don't inevitably feel "better" than the girls who do and/or vice versa. Who cares, makeup is fun, do whatever the hell ya like and screw the nay-sayers.

You know everyone is going to go looking to find out who it is now :pac:

Maguined

liah wrote: »

This echoes the statements of men all across boards. But all you have to do is check tLL's picture thread (last few pages) and compare thanks ratios to know that's not true. Men like the fake blonde hair and super-tan more than they'd like to admit.

I wouldn't use the pictures thread as a way to judge, when men say they prefer small amounts of make up they generally mean for day to day living as opposed to the oopma loompa look every day of the week. However that does not mean they do not like more make up on specific occasions. At the Christmas party every year in work the women get excited about getting to wear a fancy dress, the sort they wouldn't wear every Friday night but only for such a special occasion. This would men's attitudes to the make up they find attractive on women, in my experience anyway. They like the look of lots of make up for fancy occasions but wearing that every day would be off putting.

pastry2010

So to get a man's opinion I will need post a pic and see if Men think I wear too much make up!:rolleyes:

liah

Maguined wrote: »

I wouldn't use the pictures thread as a way to judge, when men say they prefer small amounts of make up they generally mean for day to day living as opposed to the oopma loompa look every day of the week. However that does not mean they do not like more make up on specific occasions. At the Christmas party every year in work the women get excited about getting to wear a fancy dress, the sort they wouldn't wear every Friday night but only for such a special occasion. This would men's attitudes to the make up they find attractive on women, in my experience anyway. They like the look of lots of make up for fancy occasions but wearing that every day would be off putting.

Ah but now in fairness, men on boards are constantly banging on about how much they can't stand fake tan and how much they can't stand oompa loompas and all that other crap, when it's obviously bs!

I get what you mean, I just don't understand why they have to go around insulting women who look like that when they secretly love it.

dvet

I used not wear make up on a day to day basis until my early 20's. Now I sometimes throw on a bit of tinted moisturiser and concealer in the morning if i have time, but if not I'll happily go to work without! I do feel a little better when I have some on though, it's nice to know you look good

If my boyfriend ever sees me putting on make up when there's nothing particularly on that day/normal work day, he says 'why are you putting that on? you don't need that stuff!' I think it's lovely that he thinks that

Lia_lia

I don't really wear make-up during the day. Only a bit of concealer and powder because my skin can look shiny/spotty. I don't think I look a whole lot different with make-up on anyway, but that's probably because when I do wear make I make it look as natural as possible. Any fella I've been with has said they've preferred me without make-up.

Maguined

Because its not a fair comparison. When these make up threads pop up it is normally asked from an average day point of view, and that is when you get men disliking too much make up. They have no problem with plenty of makeup but just on certain occassions. Just as plenty of women will say they like a man in a full tux as it looks good but they mean for specific events and would probably not like their man to wear a tux down to the shops to pick up the dinner.

Tar.Aldarion

liah wrote: »

Ah but now in fairness, men on boards are constantly banging on about how much they can't stand fake tan and how much they can't stand oompa loompas and all that other crap, when it's obviously bs!

I get what you mean, I just don't understand why they have to go around insulting women who look like that when they secretly love it.

Perhaps it is different people thanking. Also even if you prefer girls one way, they could probably still find a hot person hot? And just much prefer her without the make up. I like make up, but like most, proclaim to not like too much (/apart from dark eyes heh) but I would still find people attractive with a lot make up, just not as much. Out of all my gfs only one has worn make up, my current one and she wears practically none, so I do go for that. But then some people have the skin for it etc. I do think more people like loads of make up than they say though.

G86

I don't wear a ton of make up, but I wear foundation, bronzer and mascara every day,sometimes with lip gloss, which achieves the eh 'natural' look I bet most guys wouldn't even realise I was wearing it. It takes me about 5mins in the morning. But on nights out I'll wear more, and I love spending a bit more time on it, usually about 20mins. I love eye make up and experimenting with different shades etc.

There was actually a thread on here over a year ago where posters posted pics of themselves with and without make up. Might be an idea to dig it up or start a new one? It was definitely interesting!:)

pastry2010

Well I have posted a pic on the pics thread and I will see the general opinion, If people did think oooooh she wears too much I think I would try tone it down but either the people in my life are too nice (until my boyf said it)and haven't said it before. but thanks to everyone for commenting, I think the general opinion here is that guys like it more than they admit, why wouldn't they they like that their girlfriend makes an effort for them and is holding their hand!:o

liah

pastry2010 wrote: »

Well I have posted a pic on the pics thread and I will see the general opinion, If people did think oooooh she wears too much I think I would try tone it down but either the people in my life are too nice (until my boyf said it)and haven't said it before. but thanks to everyone for commenting, I think the general opinion here is that guys like it more than they admit, why wouldn't they they like that their girlfriend makes an effort for them and is holding their hand!:o

I think you look great, and even if people do think you wear too much who cares, it's not your job to live for everyone else's wants or needs, life's too short for that! Wear what you like, anyone worth their weight will think you're fantastic either way.

G86

pastry2010 wrote: »

Well I have posted a pic on the pics thread and I will see the general opinion, If people did think oooooh she wears too much I think I would try tone it down but either the people in my life are too nice (until my boyf said it)and haven't said it before. but thanks to everyone for commenting, I think the general opinion here is that guys like it more than they admit, why wouldn't they they like that their girlfriend makes an effort for them and is holding their hand!:o

That's not much at all, you look great!:)

I look better with some eyeliner but I still rarely wear it. I find my skin tends to be unhappy if I wear foundation, however light, even though I scrub very thoroughly when taking it off again.
I wouldn't like "with makeup" to be my default state though.

the_syco

liah wrote: »

Ah but now in fairness, men on boards are constantly banging on about how much they can't stand fake tan and how much they can't stand oompa loompas and all that other crap, when it's obviously bs!

There's fake tan at night, and fake tan in the day. Fake tan during the day can look very orange, but at a different light setting, it can look more natural. I say this as when walking in or through Trinity during the day, the orange wans are noticeable, but in the evening time, the orange wans are never about. I'm putting this down to a) they don't come out at night, or b) the orange doesn't look so bad in the evening?

pastry2010 wrote: »

I have run out of make up before for 2-3 days and I get seriously depressed, I have attended work without it and the jokers of the office make comments about how pale I am and go out of their way to tell me I look tired and not myself....I am taking this as a big hint that I suit make up and that I need it!!:D

Er... no. To me, it seems that they are used to you looking like X, and when you come in looking like Y, they see a big difference, and tell you.

It also means that they didn't know that you usually wear make-up, and that you apply it very well onto yourself.

pastry2010 wrote: »

Well I have posted a pic on the pics thread

Looks okay. Doesn't seem to be that much make-up, but your face does look "shiny", but that could be just the flash from the camera.

=-=

I like a bit of make-up on women. Subtle. Not caked.

rainbow kirby

I don't wear make-up, and haven't worn it in about 5-6 years. I just don't like it and don't really feel comfortable wearing it, plus I've never found a foundation that didn't make me break out in huge amounts of spots, so there's no point.

Each to their own though, don't have a problem with others wearing it, just don't like it myself.

Idbatterim

I dont know if men are being serious or just polite when they say women look better without makeup. If thats the case take it off them in the nigtclubs and see if they would agree! Look at that Katy Perry photo without her makeup on!

parker kent

Maguined wrote: »

I wouldn't use the pictures thread as a way to judge, when men say they prefer small amounts of make up they generally mean for day to day living as opposed to the oopma loompa look every day of the week. However that does not mean they do not like more make up on specific occasions. At the Christmas party every year in work the women get excited about getting to wear a fancy dress, the sort they wouldn't wear every Friday night but only for such a special occasion. This would men's attitudes to the make up they find attractive on women, in my experience anyway. They like the look of lots of make up for fancy occasions but wearing that every day would be off putting.

This pretty much sums up how I feel. You have obviously read The Man Handbook!

But since the pictures thread was mentioned, I did actually have a look through the last few pages (purely for research of course :pac:) and the thanks were pretty even between lots of different looks. Plus you have to allow for the fact that this is TLL and there are naturally lots of girls thanking posts as well.

There were basically girls of every different type with lots of thanks. Some were wearing lots of make up and others were not. Some were blonde, some brunette and everything in between. There were also a few who looked great but didn't have as many thanks because they weren't pulling a funny face, in a funny place, dressed up, in costume or some other thanks pulling device. And having a dog seemed to be the golden route towards thanks! I have also noticed I seem to have a preference for a certain type of photo judging by who I have thanked! But I didn't notice a distinct difference for those with or without make-up.

From my perspective, I tend to like the same type of girl regardless of whether she is wearing make-up or not. And I definitely prefer girls who do not have the tango look, though if I was in a nightclub it is less obvious due to the lights. But in the cold, light of day, those tans are not very attractive. I much prefer porcelain white skin to tangerine tanned skin. (Though a well applied tan can look well for certain occasions). As Maguined said, the simple, natural look is preferable on a day-to-day basis and the wow factor can come out for special occasions. I would also say that pretty often the wow is actually more for the dress and hair than the make-up.

Edit: The last line should not taken as me saying that the make-up does not look good, just that I would always notice the dress and hair before the make-up

Giselle

pastry2010 wrote: »

I wear a generous amount if I have plans for the day or when I go out at night. My boyfriend has made comments about me wearing too much foundation

Maybe you do wear too much, and you shouldn't be insulted or hurt if he's trying to tell you you look better with less.

Personally I find a lot of girls who had skin issues wear a lot of foundation, even when they really don't need to anymore. And it can be off putting because instead of noticing how pretty someone is you just notice the makeup.

I've a friend who wears a lot of foundation and I avoid hugging her in a cheek to cheek way because I don't want her makeup on me or my clothes. And shes' gorgeous without it.

I wear makeup when I'm out, but lifes too short to be spending time painting myself in case someone thinks I look tired.:)

shinikins

Pastry, i think your pic is lovely-not too much makeup at all, and you were obviously on a night out, so i assume you were wearing more than you would during the day.

I love makeup, choosing it, applying it, wearing it, experimenting with different looks, but oddly enough i wear very little on a day to day basis. In fact pretty much the only thing i might use daily is concealer, as i am cursed with dark circles, and am on a constant quest to find the perfect one(all suggestions welcome:p) On a night out i wear full face, but its still a pretty natural look, apart from smoky eyes. My boyfriend would never comment on my makeup apart from hating lipgloss(no kissing for me when i wear my beloved YSL 24 carat gloss :mad:) In fact the only thing he gives out about are my glasses, but they aren't going anywhere until i can justify the expense of laser eye surgery!

Liah, i agree with your point about tLL pic thread, its a pretty good gauge of mens perceptions of women-i showed himself and he automatically gave thumbs up to anyone wearing makeup! In fact the other day i showed him that picture of Katy Perry without makeup and he didn't recognise her and said he wouldn't rate her at all, same goes for Eva Longoria, who is his idea of perfection, but without makeup he didn't recognise her and wasn't in the least interested!!

Eve_Dublin

It's true though....if you open your eyes, those girls who wear heavy make up and fake tan get more attention than even very attractive girls that don't. Men tell us this is not true...but it's rubbish. I'm back home for Christmas (home again to Spain in the morning...sob sob) and I went out to my local in the town I'm from. The girls were all very young;teens and early twenties but I got a shock at how much make-up they wore - they were wearing very heavy make-up and fake tan...a lot has changed since "my day" (fado fado) but the men of every age clearly loved it. The girls with less didn't get a look in. Grand. Good for all of them (in fairness, most of the girls looked hot) but don't tell me that's not what a hell of a lot of men go for. Women emulate that because they see the attention it gets.

I wear mascara everyday and that's it. When I got out (this is actually a recent enough thing), I wear eye-liner, a thin layer of foundation if my skin is looking rough (but most of the time not...I've grand skin) and a very recent thing, lipstick (!) but this is only when I go out on the town (not just down to the pub for a few). I think I posted up here before only a year ago or so to say I never wore make-up (bar mascara) going out but I've decided to be less puritanical about it and give it lash. I definitely get more attention with it on. I just don't want ot ever get to the stage where I look in the mirror and feel uglier or just ugly without it. I want to love me as I am

mariebeth

Pastry - I'm not a man, but I thought your make up looked lovely in the picture. Really well put on, not caked or anything. Besides, didn't you say in your OP that you're a makeup artist? So isn't it part of the job that you are made up as well? If I was going to a make up artist I'd want to see them with their make up on just to make sure it wouldn't result in me having to wash my face & do my own make up

parker kent

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

It's true though....if you open your eyes, those girls who wear heavy make up and fake tan get more attention than even very attractive girls that don't. Men tell us this is not true...but it's rubbish. I'm back home for Christmas (home again to Spain in the morning...sob sob) and I went out to my local in the town I'm from. The girls were all very young;teens and early twenties but I got a shock at how much make-up they wore - they were wearing very heavy make-up and fake tan...a lot has changed since "my day" (fado fado) but the men of every age clearly loved it. The girls with less didn't get a look in. Grand. Good for all of them (in fairness, most of the girls looked hot) but don't tell me that's not what a hell of a lot of men go for. Women emulate that because they see the attention it gets.

I really think that if there was a sudden worldwide ban on make-up, the same girls would get attention as they are likely to be the most attractive, wearing the least or putting themselves out there (I don't mean that in a slutty way, just that some people are better at giving positive body language, have more confidence and better at reading other peoples body language).

Though I do agree that certain men are a bit clueless about women and make-up. The Katy Perry thread on AH is evidence enough of that as she looked exactly like a pretty girl with no make pulling a funny face in bed would look like.

And I'll say it again, the KYL thread is not the best indicator of mens tastes as a large amount of the thanks are from female posters!

pastry2010

I work in a laser eye clinic for the last 3 years and also had my eyes done....FABULOUS!when your ready to have it done, come to see me I'll look after you!:)

shinikins

pastry2010 wrote: »

I work in a laser eye clinic for the last 3 years and also had my eyes done....FABULOUS!when your ready to have it done, come to see me I'll look after you!:)

It might be a while...bills bills bills....

pastry2010

mariebeth wrote: »

Pastry - I'm not a man, but I thought your make up looked lovely in the picture. Really well put on, not caked or anything. Besides, didn't you say in your OP that you're a makeup artist? So isn't it part of the job that you are made up as well? If I was going to a make up artist I'd want to see them with their make up on just to make sure it wouldn't result in me having to wash my face & do my own make up

Yes I was a make up artist but no longer in that profession, I think Men like to look at something pretty and admire it in a club but it is a different story when it's their girlfriend!Am I right?

Px

The Lovely Muffin

I wear make-up most days if I'm popping out somewhere, mainly because I have small scars (from spots, I have black bags and I have spots.

I wear foundation (a tiny amount), some translucent powder, bronzer and sometimes I wear clear mascara.

I personally feel better when wearing make-up as I feel as though the scars, spots and black bags are covered and I feel if they're no covered, then I am self-conscious. Also sometimes when I've not worn make-up I've been asked if I'm ill or tired and told I'm "very pale", though when I do wear make-up, I am not orange/brown.

AnneElizabeth

pastry2010 wrote: »

the jokers of the office make comments about how pale I am(

I think you're wearing foundation that's too dark for your skin tone.
The only difference when you;re not wearing make-up should be that a few blemished are visible.

caseyann

Natural make up is good and also good for skin protection,along with facial creme etc..

Natural good.




Too much bad.

pastry2010

haha!ok thats extreme I'm not that bad!:D I think it could be physcological though, I relied on make up for so many years to hide my skin condition and now I have great skin (well better then it was) the odd spot here and there.:D I just don't feel myself without the slap on!:p

Larianne

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

It's true though....if you open your eyes, those girls who wear heavy make up and fake tan get more attention than even very attractive girls that don't.

parker kent wrote: »

I really think that if there was a sudden worldwide ban on make-up, the same girls would get attention as they are likely to be the most attractive, wearing the least or putting themselves out there (I don't mean that in a slutty way, just that some people are better at giving positive body language and reading other peoples).

Yep, I agree. I would believe these girls getting attention were also quite confident and/or were dressed in a certain way that appealed to guys.

Make-up is there to enhance your features, not mask them. Maybe that is what the OPs boyfriend was trying to say. That basically you don't need to wear that much make-up, you look pretty without. I think it's quite a nice thing to say. It would be worse if it was the opposite! :pac:

starlit

I think a little bit of make-up that looks natural is the way to go during the day and having it a little heavier then when going out at night. I prefer the little bit of make-up rather than a load of it on depends on the occasion. I used to have bad skin so ended up going to secondary school wearing make-up and wore it everyday going to college and work without fail! Felt better about myself and felt bare if I didn't wear make-up going to college/work. Now days I just wear make-up the odd time, for occasions, going out at night, going shopping, usually when I leave the house sometimes. I don't always wear make-up around the house day after day unless its a special occasion or visitors are around. So you often find me either without make-up or very little make-up on.

It shouldn't bother people whether you wear make-up or not, do what you feel. Some girls look better with make-up others don't some actually look better without make-up on.

miec

Hi Op

I have had the opposite comments, my ex used to complain about me not wearing make up as did another previous guy. I rarely wear it but must admit that when I do I look better.

I think you just have to please yourself in the end.

starlit

I love just to experiment with colours for eye shadow, eyeliner, mascara, blushes, lipgloss etc. I enjoy the creativity of it when trying to create a certain look. I know what colours suit me and ones that are fashionable and trendy. I probably have tried every colour under the sun and type of make-up when younger! Now I just go with trendy colours that suit me. Often match make-up colours to my mood/occasion/outfit. I do stick with my usuals like rimmle, bourjois and maybelline (brown blusher rather than pink), pink and brown lippys, black mascara, certain foundations of different brands but have to use a liquid one cause of my skin same applies to concealor (elizbeth arden, max factor and lancome I find the best, I find the estee lauder is very artifical on my skin the others looks more natural on me) and buy what is big in like the new smokey eye liner by max factor its brilliant. So easy to use. Lip liner is probably the only thing I don't use. I love any make-up that sparkles, shines and shimmers!:cool:

Eve_Dublin

parker kent wrote: »

I really think that if there was a sudden worldwide ban on make-up, the same girls would get attention as they are likely to be the most attractive, wearing the least or putting themselves out there (I don't mean that in a slutty way, just that some people are better at giving positive body language, have more confidence and better at reading other peoples body language).

Though I do agree that certain men are a bit clueless about women and make-up. The Katy Perry thread on AH is evidence enough of that as she looked exactly like a pretty girl with no make pulling a funny face in bed would look like.

And I'll say it again, the KYL thread is not the best indicator of mens tastes as a large amount of the thanks are from female posters!

You really think the girls who cake it on (now I mean CAKE the stuff on, not just wear some make-up plus layer on the fake tan) are more confident than the girls who go without? You honestly think they'd be able to cope with the ban? I know plenty of girls who would go into a meltdown if she had to run to the shops to get milk without the slap. Hmmm. I dunno. I think a lot of our short-term confidence comes from our looks...if I feel I look good, I'm going to act accordingly. I think the girls who layer it on don't have the attitude of, "Ah sure I could take it or leave it". I think many of them need that war paint to muster up that confidence.....plus the attention from men would bolster that. It's all kind of a fantasy.

I think this look makes them stand out from the ordinary...gives them a kind of untouchable, popstar, superstar quality because they're essentially emulating what most famous young women look like nowadays and men like that fantasy. It's kind of a type of escapism. Untouchableness (is that a word) is attractive, particularly when it comes to females. I'm more inclined to feel more comfortable talking to another girl without so much make-up because I'd feel they're more...grounded and are not so concious of the attention they're getting...but for a one night stand...well, I can see the attraction.

Jumpy

liah wrote: »

This echoes the statements of men all across boards. But all you have to do is check tLL's picture thread (last few pages) and compare thanks ratios to know that's not true. Men like the fake blonde hair and super-tan more than they'd like to admit.

I like makeup, but I only started wearing it once I hit my 20's, which was very late compared to most. I get by just fine without it, but I prefer it-- it's fun and I enjoy the ritual. I wear it every day wherever I go, but again, if I was without it for a couple days it really wouldn't bother me too much.

I find it's pretty difficult to describe my relationship with makeup; it's just like clothes or accessories or a haircut to me. I'm still me, a bit of paint on my face doesn't change it, and it's a form of expression same as anything else.

*puts hand up sheepishly*

Sorry but I am not a huge fan of the natural look. I like fake tan and make up on women.

pastry2010

Jumpy wrote: »

*puts hand up sheepishly*

Sorry but I am not a huge fan of the natural look. I like fake tan and make up on women.

Horrrrrrrayyyyyyyyy!I've been waiting on someone to come along and admit that!:D

good job Jumpy!

I always wear foundation at the very least. Would love to be able to get by without make up but I have awful dark circles under my eyes and my cheeks can get red too. I got the Bare Minerals stuff recently as its suppossed to look very natural, but it really does make me look like I'm wearing no make up (and not in a good way)!