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Why arent babies gagged/sedated in public?

  • 30-12-2010 11:27am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭


    I know little Jenny is probably a dote but if she starts crying while I'm enjoying my brekkie stand the fúck up and do something rather than carrying on as if you can't hear it.
    All seriousness aside, how do you deal with someone who won't make even a token effort? Babies cry, that's fine, but they can also be calmed down with a little bit of effort.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    Most people shouldn't be allowed have babies...


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Why are you eating your breakfast in Jenny's kitchen? Maybe she's scared?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Babies on planes are like the ultimate trolls. Just as you're nodding off in the one comfortable position possible they start crying like a motherfúcker until you go "OK OK I'M AWAKE!"

    Then guess who stops crying :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Some Roma Gypsies have been known to sedate their babies while out begging for the day, think we're all better than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭Fishyfreak


    Nevore wrote: »
    how do you deal with someone who won't make even a token effort?

    Best advice is to steer well clear, 'cos Mam/Dad are probably stressed to the eyeballs and don't want some pr*ck approaching them at that exact second.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭amacca


    Most people shouldn't be allowed have babies...

    most people seem to think everyone else should have to put up with their babies

    even when they reach adulthood

    parents should be made responsible for the monsters they have created



    and fined if they turn out to be not so good looking when they are adults


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    OisinT wrote: »
    Then guess who stops crying :mad:

    Who?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭curlzy


    I like babies, they rarely annoy me, except in aeroplanes but you can't really blame them then coz their little cutesy-wutesy ickle ears have popped.:D:p

    P.s I don't have any, hmmmmm maybe that's why I like them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    OisinT wrote: »
    Babies on planes are like the ultimate trolls. Just as you're nodding off in the one comfortable position possible they start crying like a motherfúcker until you go "OK OK I'M AWAKE!"

    Every plane no matter what always has at least one of them too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Who?
    the baby


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    Damn inconsiderate babies. It's not as if all of us were ever babies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Jenroche


    OP, if you really want an answer to your question you should have posted this on the Parents forum. I'll bring the popcorn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    qz wrote: »
    Damn inconsiderate babies. It's not as if all of us were ever babies.
    Fun fact: I was actually never a baby!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    Cos it doesn't just stop at babies!

    If parents were to give in to their babys needs to please people in public they will then be giving in to the child's needs in public to forever please the joe soap they'll never see again!

    Then that same joe soap will moan when the spoilt 16 year old gets whatever he/she wants cos mammy/daddy can't say no to them!


    **Joe** Just give the child whatever he or she wants so I can have some peace ffs. Shouldn't have kids if you can't keep them quiet while I eat brekkie or fly somewhere. Grr grr grr

    16 years later

    **Joe** That ****ing spoilt brat gets whatever they ****ing want. Who gives their child a car at 16 grr grr grr. Parents should be ashamed. Shouldn't have kids if they can't say no and use a thing called parenting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    OisinT wrote: »
    Fun fact: I was actually never a baby!

    Was your childhood robbed?:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    OisinT wrote: »
    Fun fact: I was actually never a baby!


    Id say you are still a baby :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    Oh just a fyi before some asks. I have a kid. I try to get him to clam down if we are out eating but I won't go to the extent as to give him everything he wants just to sooth others. He learns more this way that he can't have everything and he will eventually calm down. I don't fly with him but maybe that's me just being considerate :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    I know babies are cute and all but screaming while im trying to have my breakfast would drive me mad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Yawns wrote: »
    Oh just a fyi before some asks. I have a kid. I try to get him to clam down if we are out eating but I won't go to the extent as to give him everything he wants just to sooth others. He learns more this way that he can't have everything and he will eventually calm down. I don't fly with him but maybe that's me just being considerate :/


    That's fair enough but what about the other people who are trying to enjoy their meal, the did not ask for a screaming child with their order.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    A drop of Jameson in every feed of milk I say, that'll keep em quiet. Plus babies love it when they're pished sure who doesn't.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Joe10000


    Long haul flights with babies nearby is akin to torture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Gagging and sedation is a bit too far.

    But at least try stop the baby crying rather than sitting there with the attitude of : yeah it's my baby it cries, disturbing your starbucks is it, yeah get over it.

    Funnily enough bet the parent doesn't have that attitude at 4am after being woken up for the tenth time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    As I said I will try to calm the child down, bu not to the extent of giving him everything he wants.

    I didn't order having to listen to other people's shít conversations but guess what? It happens when you eat out. You want a nice quiet envoiroment then you have it at home. If I am going out to have brekkie in public place I take on board that there will be others around me talking, moaning, griping or just reading a paper and being quiet.

    There's worse things than a baby crying in a café and goes something along the lines of someone drugged out of his head talking to his "bhuddddy".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Yawns wrote: »
    There's worse things than a baby crying in a café and goes something along the lines of someone drugged out of his head talking to his "bhuddddy".

    To be fair druggies tend to be escorted straight out of cafes/restos/shops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Baby cage in the cargo hold is the way forward.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    I would agree with you in the past amdublin but more and more I see them allowed to stay in cafés & shops. Not restaurants tho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    parents become so immune to the crying that the forget it annoys everyone else around them. There is nothing worse than a crying baby in a restaurant. I would say there is a difference in a bold child and an upset child. no one likes to hear a baby upset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    I need to invent a mute button for the yokes.... pity you couldn't plug a pair of earphones in so the noise is saved for little Dorothy's mum's ears only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Yawns wrote: »
    I would agree with you in the past amdublin but more and more I see them allowed to stay in cafés & shops. Not restaurants tho.

    Your druggies must be "ok" druggies :rolleyes: out my way they're booted straight out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    I wish parents would realise that other people don't give a flying f*$k about their babies. It's so annoying when people bring them into work etc to show them off and stick photos all over the place around their desk........get a f*$king life!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    hondasam wrote: »
    parents become so immune to the crying that the forget it annoys everyone else around them. There is nothing worse than a crying baby in a restaurant. I would say there is a difference in a bold child and an upset child. no one likes to hear a baby upset.

    In my opinion once a baby starts crying - whether because bold or upset - they should be brought outside and comforted and brought back in when quiet.

    It simply is just not fair to the other patrons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    omen80 wrote: »
    stick photos all over the place around their desk........get a f*$king life!

    Ah no sure they're not bothering you are they.

    And at least photos are quiet and not crying!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Meh Babies cry, its what they do. A parent should make an effort to calm them down, but at the end of the day sometimes babies just cry. Personally, I don't mind it much, there just babies at the end of the day, and we were all that age at one point. Seems a bit childish to get to worked up about it imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    amdublin wrote: »
    Ah no sure they're not bothering you are they.

    And at least photos are quiet and not crying!

    That is true, but photos of babies remind me of how annoying they are!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Most people shouldn't be allowed have babies...

    But then who would take care of you in your old age? ;)


    Seriously, though, gagging and sedating babies? Harsh. We were all in the same boat once apon a time, y'know.

    I could think of more grown ups who could do with gagging and sedating than the little critters who can't really control their emotions yet.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    qz wrote: »
    Damn inconsiderate babies. It's not as if all of us were ever babies.

    Irrelevant point is irrelevant.
    Anyway, my main issue is with parents who have no desire to control their demented little brats, rather than the demented little brats themselves.
    Unless the demented little brats are old enough to be expected to behave for about 10% of the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    Irrelevant point is irrelevant.
    Anyway, my main issue is with parents who have no desire to control their demented little brats, rather than the demented little brats themselves.
    Unless the demented little brats are old enough to be expected to behave for about 10% of the day.

    There has been a movement away from using dummies. That used to quiten em down. In reality however , there is less baby noise than ever. It is part of life, deal with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    wes wrote: »
    Meh Babies cry, its what they do. A parent should make an effort to calm them down, but at the end of the day sometimes babies just cry. Personally, I don't mind it much, there just babies at the end of the day, and we were all that age at one point. Seems a bit childish to get to worked up about it imho.

    But it goes through my head??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    If I ever do decide to have children, it won't be until I can afford full time help to mind the creature so I don't have to bring it with me when I leave the house. I've suffered enough from other people's babies to subject others to that annoyance.

    And don't get me started on prams in shops!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    amdublin wrote: »
    In my opinion once a baby starts crying - whether because bold or upset - they should be brought outside and comforted and brought back in when quiet.

    It simply is just not fair to the other patrons.


    I agree but I would have more sympathy / tolerance for the parents of an upset baby rather than the parents of a spoiled brat. I just have no time for bold children. You know the child that starts because the are in public.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    It is part of life, deal with it.

    Idiot. At least say something intelligent please............


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭sesna


    I wish parents would just leave the damn kids at home if they're going to a restaurant.

    And what's the point of bringing a 1-2 year old on holidays. Dump them with the nearest relative, they're not going to remember a damn thing about the holiday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    To me a baby crying beside me in a cafe is like someone drill-hammering beside me.

    If the person with the drill does not make moves to stop or move I am angry :mad:

    If the adult with the baby does not make moves to stop the baby crying or take baby away I am angry :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    If I ever do decide to have children, it won't be until I can afford full time help to mind the creature so I don't have to bring it with me when I leave the house. I've suffered enough from other people's babies to subject others to that annoyance.

    And don't get me started on prams in shops!

    I hate those little shopping trolleys the kids go around in, I have to shop at night time to avoid them. I think their should be adult hrs for shopping and no kids allowed.

    Im so mean :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    There has been a movement away from using dummies. That used to quiten em down. In reality however , there is less baby noise than ever. It is part of life, deal with it.

    Link to the science bit showing this please?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    sesna wrote: »
    I wish parents would just leave the damn kids at home if they're going to a restaurant.

    Agreed.

    Fishyfreak wrote: »
    Best advice is to steer well clear, 'cos Mam/Dad are probably stressed to the eyeballs and don't want some pr*ck approaching them at that exact second.


    If mam/dad are so stressed they should go to a tapas bar to calm down for a while...I hear Portugal do good tapas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    TheZohan wrote: »
    I hear Portugal do good tapas.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    hondasam wrote: »
    I hate those little shopping trolleys the kids go around in, I have to shop at night time to avoid them. I think their should be adult hrs for shopping and no kids allowed.

    Im so mean :)

    God you are! :)

    No as long as they are quiet and well behaved I don't care


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    hondasam wrote: »
    I hate those little shopping trolleys the kids go around in, I have to shop at night time to avoid them. I think their should be adult hrs for shopping and no kids allowed.

    Damn straight! High five.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    omen80 wrote: »
    I wish parents would realise that other people don't give a flying f*$k about their babies. It's so annoying when people bring them into work etc to show them off and stick photos all over the place around their desk........get a f*$king life!

    Who's forcing you to look at a few photo's? What harm are they doing you exactly?
    Don't your family have any pics of you around the place...surely it's unfair for visitors to have to gawp at your childhood pics when they come round, eh?

    As for the 'get a life' comment....sure, their children are a part of their life. Is your life somehow more meaningful simply because you haven't procreated yet?

    Some people seem to have a massive baby sized chip on their shoulders around here....the vitriol is something else!


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