Kaval Released from WWE

chordtype

Poor Kaval.

http://us.wwe.com/inside/news/kavalreleased

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of WWE SmackDown Superstar Kaval (Brandon Silvestry) as of today, December 23, 2010. We wish Kaval the best in all future endeavors.

Handsome Bob

WTF? I heard people going on about how he was buried on SD this week but I thought they were just exagerrating.

CMpunked

chordtype wrote: »

Poor Kaval.

http://us.wwe.com/inside/news/kavalreleased

oh thats a shame.

There it is, the slap in the face to all the indy fans from vince mac.
I know, there is danielson, but he made good ratings on nxt1 and was always the focal point.

gimmick

Craziness. But given his famously horrific attitude, it is not that much of a surprise.

I hope he comes back to PWG and/or ROH soon. A match with Roderick Strong again appeals to me very much.

Handsome Bob

gimmick wrote: »

Craziness. But given his famously horrific attitude, it is not that much of a surprise.

I hope he comes back to PWG and/or ROH soon. A match with Roderick Strong again appeals to me very much.

Never heard about that, explain plz?

D2D

:(

WWE just lost 1 major talent in Kaval

gimmick

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Never heard about that, explain plz?

He takes himself and the business extremely seriously, refering to it as his art. I have read he acts aloof at all times to those who do not take it as seriously as himself. A bit of a Roy Keane in many ways.

All that to one side, he is one seriously talented mofo.

flahavaj

As gimmick said, he's a serious talent but he's also a bit of an arsehole that thinks he's God's gift to wrestling. A touch of the thinks-he's-Great-Muta Syndrome at times. That kinda sh*t dosn't fly from an "indy" guy in WWE.

GTR63

Whatever about his "attitude" he had talent.I imagine the majority of Wrestlers have ego's cause they have strangers/fans telling them how great they are most days.Another braindead move by wwe after a crap year.Oh wait five more people bought Survivor Series this year than last year,bet vince thinks wwe are on a role now.

gimmick

But in wrestling circles, his attitude will never fly. The WWE locker room is notorious for having to pay your dues etc. Low Ki, despite his experience was still the new kid in town.

Big fat meh from me anyway, I watch very little WWE, we will see better matches out of him back in the indies.

Jesus christ, imagine matches with Yokosuka, Shingo, John Moxley, and indeed a few more with KENTA. This works for me.

CMpunked

gimmick wrote: »

Big fat meh from me anyway, I watch very little WWE, we will see better matches out of him back in the indies.

I watch a fair bit and i havent seen him hardly at all.

rossie1977

GTR63 wrote: »

Another braindead move by wwe after a crap year.Oh wait five more people bought Survivor Series this year than last year,bet vince thinks wwe are on a role now.

speaking of survivor series he got zero reaction at that ppv in person, it was especially bad considering danielson was hugely over with the same fans minutes earlier

flahavaj

GTR63 wrote: »

Whatever about his "attitude" he had talent.I imagine the majority of Wrestlers have ego's cause they have strangers/fans telling them how great they are most days.Another braindead move by wwe after a crap year.Oh wait five more people bought Survivor Series this year than last year,bet vince thinks wwe are on a role now.

Kaval won't add any buys to Survivor Series though. In WWE terms he's a nobody, if he acted the same way thats gotten him fired from ROH amongst others then he deserved the boot.

GTR63

If wwe sack people who get no reaction they should sack 80% of the Roster anyone who watched Raw & Smackdown this week heard nothing but sqeaky kids screaming for Cena,Orton & other pushed talent.Kaval beat Ziggler(who isn't over,vickie is) on Smackdown to rush a match at SS,before that he was getting squashed constantly.

D2D

PWInsider wrote:

The word making the rounds within WWE is that the company didn't have any plans for him and it was an amicable parting of the ways, as opposed to the company dropping the former ROH and TNA X-Division champion. It is believed he has the typical 90 day no-compete that would prevent him from working for any nationally televised companies.

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Mr.Nice Guy

That's a shame as he was different to the usual new guys in the WWE. It wasn't all bad as he at least got to lock lips with Layla.

Rjd2

rossie1977 wrote: »

speaking of survivor series he got zero reaction at that ppv in person, it was especially bad considering danielson was hugely over with the same fans minutes earlier

He had spent the previous few months jobbing to the likes of Drew, Reks, Swagger and Chavo, how was he meant to get over really?

GTR63

Rjd2 wrote: »

He had spent the previous few months jobbing to the likes of Drew, Reks, Swagger and Chavo, how was he meant to get over really?

Thank you he got push rushed into a title match after losing to Chavo what do people expect a Stone Cold like ovation.

rossie1977

Rjd2 wrote: »

He had spent the previous few months jobbing to the likes of Drew, Reks, Swagger and Chavo, how was he meant to get over really?

hasn't stopped santino getting over, the last guy i saw get zero reaction live was mike knox

and GTR those pesky kids were screaming their lungs out for danielson at the same show

GTR63

Rjd2 wrote: »

He had spent the previous few months jobbing to the likes of Drew, Reks, Swagger and Chavo, how was he meant to get over really?

Thank you finally a shred of common sense.He got push rushed into a title match after losing to Chavo what do people expect a Stone Cold like ovation.

Rjd2

rossie1977 wrote: »

hasn't stopped santino getting over, the last guy i saw get zero reaction live was mike knox

and GTR those pesky kids were screaming their lungs out for danielson at the same show

Santino has always been given mic time on Raw and works wonderfully as a comedy heel or babyface. Santino has been booked quite well so of course he is over.

Not only did The Miz put over Danielson hard, Cena put him over hard in a in ring promo, while he has also gone over the likes of Dolph and Ted clean. Bryan has been booked been very favorably since his return.

Kaval? Jobbed on a weekly basis to everybody on Smackdown.

How on earth was he meant to be over at Survivor Series???

Seriously nobody could have got over with that booking.

GTR63

Santino actually beat Chavo this week on smackdown & has beat Sheamus & Nexus lately.Danielson is over cause he is a outstanding wrestler who has been pushed. When a talent isn't pushed with any consistently you end up with Guys like Swagger & even our Sheamus.Both should be over a lot more now but wwe has screwed up their pushes.WWE has screwed up quite a lot of pushes in recent years in case people don't realise.

Lord TSC

What annoys me is that this blows the concept of NXT out of the water.

"Hey guys, vote for who you like and even if you can get past the biased scoring system, we'll just fire your winner within a few weeks anyway."

dlofnep

Ridiculous release. Kaval was a solid wrestler. Something WWE is lacking.

JP Liz V1

So Nxt Season 2 winner fired already :rolleyes: so much for that show so

I was hoping for a heel turn for Kaval and a feud with Rey

I kinda expected him to stay with LayCool on SD it might have helped him as he wasnt great on the mic

jaykhunter

Shocked to see Kaval abruptly fired. If it was a disciplinary problem, surely a month's suspension would've done, as it would if it were a wellness violation.

I imagine he did/said something unprofession to a higher up.

It's such a huge shame, the guy has buckets of charisma and wrestling ability. He gets over on his amazing wrestling and has an awesome look and voice despite his size. WWE fluffed up big time. If taking your job serious is a crime then WWE is a disgrace.

I guess WWE only allow one indy-hero to get over at a time

TNA are retards for letting him go, I doubt Hog-off will see anything in him.....so back to ROH or Japan.....Could be worse Himself vs Davey Richards, BxB Hulk or KENTA would be great. Sounds like the wBw Draft roster :pac:

danny29

What were WWE thinking?? this guy is really talented and if you just give him chance he will reach his potential.

Just go on into different shows..at least you're able to show your true abilities without the stupid WWE handcuffs

glenjamin

Absolute joke decision. He won NXT 2 only a while back when the fans picked him to win because they wanted to see more of him. He's great in the ring and his offense can really get a crowd going. It's a joke when you think of all the NXT 1 & 2 guys still hanging around and being pushed when their in-ring ability is nothing compared to Kaval's yet it's Kaval who is released.

The rumour is that they had no storylines for him and he didn't want to be sitting round doing nothing which I can understand but seriously the blame has to go to creative for this. You win NXT, the fans love you, push the fcuk out of him!! He could have easily been thrown into a feud with someone like DiBiase, Rhodes, McIntyre or the IC picture. This just shows how fcuking retarded the bookers are in the WWE. Kaval is sent packing while guys like Darren Young, Primo, Tatsu, Ryder, Jackson, JTG, (better not mention Masters) and Reks are still employed!

Bounty Hunter

Very dissapointed with this decision as Kaval/Low Ki is one of those guys that imo you dont need to really have somethhing for him from a creative POV just give him time in the ring to impress where he isnt being squashed. You need enhancement talent on every show and he is someone that can fill this role and most likely eventually get over just on the back of his in ring performance. Perhaps he wasn't doing that so far but that is because Creative used him primarily as a Jobber it would seem due to their having no plan for him. No matter how good you are in the ring its hard for a wrestler to get over and connect with his audience if he is losing most of the time in non important matches. He could have easily filled The same role Danielson is filling on Raw atm as far as im concerned and made the non important storyline matches seem interesting due to his in ring ability while at the same time making his lower card opponents look strong by being in such a good match. I saw these matches are non important from a storyline sense but they are essential from a booking sense imo because you need to lull the crowd occasionally between segments involving the big storylines so that they do infact seem more important/impactfull as a result.

rossie1977

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm0zo2e4RnU

Gerard.C

Aw thats a shocking decision, Kaval was class. Suppose hes better off in ROH anyway

Machismo Fan

glenjamin wrote: »

Kaval is sent packing while guys like Darren Young, Primo, Tatsu, Ryder, Jackson, JTG, (better not mention Masters) and Reks are still employed!

This is what always puzzled me. They've done absolutely nothing with Primo since he dropped the tag titles which was like 18 months ago yet they just keep him around. Yet they tell Kaval they have nothing for him when depth on Smackdown is at a near all time low.

Handsome Bob

It's ironic really, this is what we expected to happen to Danielson but when they treated him well, we assumed they'd treat Kaval well too.

Gerard.C

LZ5by5 wrote: »

It's ironic really, this is what we expected to happen to Danielson but when they treated him well, we assumed they'd treat Kaval well too.

HBK didnt train Kaval though, I'd say thats the difference unfortunatley

Handsome Bob

Gerard.C wrote: »

HBK didnt train Kaval though, I'd say thats the difference unfortunatley

Aye, all the same though, if they hadn't any plans for him then he shouldn't have won nxt, I mean you'd like to think that they had some rough plan.

Gerard.C

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Aye, all the same though, if they hadn't any plans for him then he shouldn't have won nxt, I mean you'd like to think that they had some rough plan.

I know ya, all that talk of him fueding with Rey and he just ends up gettin fired. You'd wonder what they're thinking sometimes

grames_bond

Gerard.C wrote: »

HBK didnt train Kaval though, I'd say thats the difference unfortunatley

He didn't train danielson either, William regal did the training on danielson, Shaun Michaels just picked up the $3,000 cheque!

Gerard.C

grames_bond wrote: »

He didn't train danielson either, William regal did the training on danielson, Shaun Michaels just picked up the $3,000 cheque!

I'm sure tis enough for Vince though

DM_7

Happy ****ing Christmas eh?

Terrible news, Kaval had great potential.

Handsome Bob

- Below are some reactions from people following Kaval's WWE release:

John Cena: "CeNation. Behind as always. I guess wwe has released kaval. I have no clue why but this close to holiday would probally mean....... That it is pretty serious business."

Jim Ross: "Kaval's release from WWE surprised me. Don't know the circumstances. Kaval won't have any issues finding work. I wish him my best."

Jeremy Borash: "Very grateful to be working for a company that gives out bonus checks at Christmas instead of walking papers."

Shelton Benjamin: "I guess my question is would you rather see him as a jobber for Wwe or the Indy phenom that he had been"

Shane Helms: "U gotta be f***ing kidding!!!"

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/295153412.php

rossie1977

new reports suggest Kaval requested his WWE release. According to a source close to the wrestler he was "miserable" and did not enjoy the WWE schedule. Officials tried to talk Kaval out of walking but eventually allowed him to walk. Kaval joins MVP and Matt Hardy in asking for a release

source: wrestlingnewssource.com

CMpunked

rossie1977 wrote: »

source: wrestlingnewssource.com

If thats true, then it makes wwe look terrible as a employer. Has there ever been 3 high profile requests to leave before in a year?

rossie1977

above report has been confirmed by meltzer

dlofnep

He wasn't being used right. I can see why he'd want to walk.

Diabhal Beag

First of all let's not pretend that this guy was going to ever be big as in a draw. I think the success of indy guys like Punk and Danielson really tricked the fans into thinking a new era of promoting great workers was here.

No it isn't. The difference is Punk is a great promo and Bryan is possibly the best wrestler in the world. I liked Low Ki but he was never going to be booked in a way that all us fans wanted. WWE wanted him to get as over as Bryan was on NXT. He was never going to reach those levels. He's a good wrestler but not up there with the best. His promos are your average WWE guy who sucks on the mic.

He is also proceeded by a reputation as a massive mark for himself. He is. He kinda proved it by walking out when they had no ideas for him. They never had ideas for him and yet he won NXT. This is a guy who would have benefited from MVP leaving on the mid-card scene. I think waiting till at least Mania (let's face it, he isn't exactly red-hot now anyway) would have reaped some rewards.

To me TNA won't make him over if they sign him. He might comeback as Senshi but the X-Division is dead anyway. He won't fit into what they want in a big built guy dominated company.

He is the new Homicide IMO. A guy who was great on the indies but when he makes his return he is only going to disappoint.

gimmick

Cut this from the main Future Endeavoured thread as it has garnered quite a decent bit of conversation.

JP Liz V1

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

That's a shame as he was different to the usual new guys in the WWE. It wasn't all bad as he at least got to lock lips with Layla.

What happened to LayCool fighting over him - did that ever happen

It's a shame he is gone - the Nxt 2 winner gone already :rolleyes: yet crap wrestlers still around

Nody

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It's a shame he is gone - the Nxt 2 winner gone already :rolleyes: yet crap wrestlers still around

Well chances are those guys did not ask to get released...

dlofnep

Nody wrote: »

Well chances are those guys did not ask to get released...

Well, what do you expect when they book him to lose every single match he's in?

Gerard.C

dlofnep wrote: »

Well, what do you expect when they book him to lose every single match he's in?

To suck it up. He's been there for a few weeks really, so what if hes loseing. Look at all the matches Chris Jericho lost over the years like. If he asked for his release because he was loseing a few matches he doesnt deserve to be there in the first place

parker kent

Gerard.C wrote: »

To suck it up. He's been there for a few weeks really, so what if hes loseing. Look at all the matches Chris Jericho lost over the years like. If he asked for his release because he was loseing a few matches he doesnt deserve to be there in the first place

Was only a matter of time before he was relegated to the B programmes before his eventual release. He just sped things up a bit.