NFL Week 15 Thread

Black Swan

Thursday 16 December
San Francisco 49ers @ San Diego Chargers

Sunday 19 December
Kansas City Chiefs @ St. Louis Rams
Washington Redskins @ Dallas Cowboys
Arizona Cardinals @ Carolina Panthers
Buffalo Bills @ Miami Dolphins
Cleveland Browns @ Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Houston Texans @ Tennessee Titans
Jacksonville Jaguars @ Indianapolis Colts
New Orleans Saints @ Baltimore Ravens
Philadelphia Eagles @ New York Giants
Atlanta Falcons @ Seattle Seahawks
Denver Broncos @ Oakland Raiders
New York Jets @ Pittsburgh Steelers
Green Bay Packers @ New England Patriots

Monday 20 December
Chicago Bears @ Minnesota Vikings

kev_s88

Thursday 16 December
San Francisco 49ers @ San Diego Chargers

Sunday 19 December
Kansas City Chiefs @ St. Louis Rams
Washington Redskins @ Dallas Cowboys
Arizona Cardinals @ Carolina Panthers
Buffalo Bills @ Miami Dolphins
Cleveland Browns @ Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Houston Texans @ Tennessee Titans
Jacksonville Jaguars @ Indianapolis Colts - My Jaguars' time to shine and win their first AFC South! lets hear that ROAR!
New Orleans Saints @ Baltimore Ravens
Philadelphia Eagles @ New York Giants
Atlanta Falcons @ Seattle Seahawks
Denver Broncos @ Oakland Raiders
New York Jets @ Pittsburgh Steelers
Green Bay Packers @ New England Patriots

Monday 20 December
Chicago Bears@ Minnesota Vikings

FreeOSCAR

Thursday 16 December
San Francisco 49ers @ San Diego Chargers

Sunday 19 December
Kansas City Chiefs @ St. Louis Rams
Washington Redskins @ Dallas Cowboys
Arizona Cardinals @ Carolina Panthers
Buffalo Bills @ Miami Dolphins
Cleveland Browns @ Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Houston Texans @ Tennessee Titans
Jacksonville Jaguars @ Indianapolis Colts
New Orleans Saints @ Baltimore Ravens
Philadelphia Eagles @ New York Giants
Atlanta Falcons @ Seattle Seahawks
Denver Broncos @ Oakland Raiders
New York Jets @ Pittsburgh Steelers
Green Bay Packers @ New England Patriots

Monday 20 December
Chicago Bears @ Minnesota Vikings

McG

Thursday 16 December
San Francisco 49ers @ San Diego Chargers

Sunday 19 December
Kansas City Chiefs @ St. Louis Rams
Washington Redskins @ Dallas Cowboys
Arizona Cardinals @ Carolina Panthers
Buffalo Bills @ Miami Dolphins
Cleveland Browns @ Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Houston Texans @ Tennessee Titans
Jacksonville Jaguars @ Indianapolis Colts - I hope so anyway, our biggest game since the Superbowl
New Orleans Saints @ Baltimore Ravens
Philadelphia Eagles @ New York Giants
Atlanta Falcons @ Seattle Seahawks
Denver Broncos @ Oakland Raiders
New York Jets @ Pittsburgh Steelers
Green Bay Packers @ New England Patriots

Monday 20 December
Chicago Bears @ Minnesota Vikings

Silver-Tiger

Thursday 16 December
San Francisco 49ers @ San Diego Chargers

Sunday 19 December
St. Louis Rams
Washington Redskins @ Dallas Cowboys
Arizona Cardinals @ Carolina Panthers
Buffalo Bills @ Miami Dolphins
Cleveland Browns @ Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Houston Texans @ Tennessee Titans
Jacksonville Jaguars @ Indianapolis Colts
New Orleans Saints @ Baltimore Ravens
Philadelphia Eagles @ New York Giants
Atlanta Falcons @ Seattle Seahawks
Denver Broncos @ Oakland Raiders
New York Jets @ Pittsburgh Steelers
Green Bay Packers @ New England Patriots

Monday 20 December
Chicago Bears @ Minnesota Vikings

eagle eye

Thursday 16 December
San Francisco 49ers @ San Diego Chargers

Sunday 19 December
Kansas City Chiefs @ St. Louis Rams
Washington Redskins @ Dallas Cowboys
Arizona Cardinals @ Carolina Panthers
Buffalo Bills @ Miami Dolphins
Cleveland Browns @ Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Houston Texans @ Tennessee Titans
Jacksonville Jaguars @ Indianapolis Colts
New Orleans Saints @ Baltimore Ravens
Philadelphia Eagles @ New York Giants
Atlanta Falcons @ Seattle Seahawks
Denver Broncos @ Oakland Raiders
New York Jets @ Pittsburgh Steelers
Green Bay Packers @ New England Patriots

Monday 20 December
Chicago Bears @ Minnesota Vikings

eagle eye

I fancy the 49ers to win tonight. The teams that beat the Chargers are teams with a good mix between passing and running the ball. The 49ers have that. Also the Chargers don't score well against teams who can stop the run. And the 49ers are pretty decent against the run and have only conceded 7 touchdowns on the ground all year. Of course the Chargers have home advantage and thats pretty big but I just think the upset is on the cards tonight.

I also was thinking about a value bet on Ted Ginn jr. for a td tonight but he is only 5/1 which is terrible odds for somebody who hasn't scored all year. Reason I fancy him is the Chargers woes on STs but the price is just not good enough.

JohnnyRyan99

V-Jax you monster!

johnny_cash

Hi guys first time posting in the american football thread please don't get all upset but please this has to be one of the worst contact sports i have ever seen.The players wear so much padding it's a joke and a timeout every couple of seconds so can you guys please explain to me why this game is so popular and try to convince me to watch it because as far as i can see it's a poor mans rugby.

I had to edit this i forgot to mention i am watching the 49ers v chargers but the reason i'm asking is i have never seen a game with so many stopages i think it could be a good game if they didn't stop every minute

Peyton Manning

I would love to see Brian O'Driscoll take a hit from James Harrison or Ray Lewis. I would actually pay such good money to see that.

eagle eye

johnny_cash wrote: »

Hi guys first time posting in the american football thread please don't get all upset but please this has to be one of the worst contact sports i have ever seen.The players wear so much padding it's a joke and a timeout every couple of seconds so can you guys please explain to me why this game is so popular and try to convince me to watch it because as far as i can see it's a poor mans rugby.

Well you would be better off not saying what you said first and I'm real suspicious of your motives here but anywhoo, firstly I'd advise that if you are not very intelligent you won't enjoy it:D

Here is a start for you.

• Each game features two teams playing against each other.
• Each team is allowed 11 men on the field at a time. Any more than 11 could result in a penalty.
• Unlimited substitution is permitted, but players may only enter the field when the ball is dead.
• Each team is comprised of an offense, defense, and special teams.
• If team A has possession of the ball, they use their offensive team to attempt to advance the ball toward the opponents endzone.
• If team B has the ball, team A will use their defensive team to attempt to stop team B from advancing the ball.
• If a kicking play is expected, both teams will use their special teams.
• The object of the game is to outscore your opponent by advancing the football into their endzone for as many touchdowns as possible while holding them to as few as possible. There are other ways of scoring, but a touchdown is usually the prime objective.
• Before each game, the captains from each team and the referee meet at the center of the field for the coin toss.
• The winner of the coin toss has the option of starting the game by kicking the ball to the other team or receiving the kickoff from the other team.
• The game begins when one of the teams kicks off to the other.
• The receiving team must catch the ball and try to advance it as far back toward the kicking team as possible.
• The play ends when the player with the ball is knocked to the ground (tackled), or makes it all the way to the kicking team's endzone (touchdown).
• The spot where the kick returner was tackled becomes the line of scrimmage. The line of scrimmage is a term for the place the ball is spotted before a play is run.
• Once this starting point is established, the offensive squad of the receiving team will come in and try to move the ball toward the opposition's end zone.

Juwwi

Johnny l think u should learn the rules of the game as untill l did l did'nt realise what a great game it is.

lm new to the sport and still learning all the time but l enjoy it and wish l had of started following earlier.

johnny_cash

Thanks for the reply i understand the touchdown scores but are the downs like rugby league where you only have so many phases before you have to turn over the ball? the one good thing about this sport is with all the stopages there is lot of time to post on boards.ie

eagle eye

johnny_cash wrote: »

Thanks for the reply i understand the touchdown scores but are the downs like rugby league where you only have so many phases before you have to turn over the ball? the one good thing about this sport is with all the stopages there is lot of time to post on boards.ie

• Basically, a down is a play. From the time the ball is snapped (put into play), to the time the play is whistled over by the officials, is considered one down.
• A team's offense is given four downs (plays) to move ten yards toward the opponent's end zone.
• Distance is the number of yards a team needs to get a new set of four downs.
• If they make the ten yards needed within four downs, they are given a new set of downs. This is called getting a first down.
• If they don't make it the required ten yards, the other team's offense takes possession of the ball. An Example
• The first play of a series is called first-and-ten because it is the first down and ten yards are needed to receive a new set of four downs.
• Suppose on the first play, the team on offense picks up three yards. The next play would then be second-and-seven, because it is the second play of the set and they still need seven yards to get a first down.
• If they were to pick up six yards on the second play it would leave them one yard shy of the first down marker, therefore setting up a third-and-one situation. Third-and-one because it would be the third play of the series and they would still need one yard to get a first down.
• If the team with the ball can pick up one yard or more on the third-down play, then they will be given a first down, which means they get to start all over with a new set of four downs.
• A team can continue moving the football down the field as long as they continue to pick up first downs.
Fourth-Down Strategies
If a team fails to gain the required yardage on third down, several things could happen on fourth down:
• A team can elect to "go for it" on fourth down and try to pick up the remaining yardage, but they run the risk of turning the ball over to the other team if they do not get to the first down marker. If they do not get the required yardage, the other team takes possession of the ball at the spot of the last tackle and now has four downs to move ten yards back in the other direction.
• The majority of the time, teams will elect to "punt" the ball away on fourth down. A punt is simply a form of kicking the ball that gives possession of the ball to the other team, but also pushes them back considerably farther away from the end zone.
• Another option is to kick a field goal. If a team feels they are close enough to kick the ball between the upright bars of the goal post in their opponent's endzone, they may attempt a field goal, which is worth three points when converted successfully.
After a Score
• After a team scores via a touchdown or field goal, they must, in turn, kick off to the other team, and the process begins all over again.

johnny_cash

Tom_Brady wrote: »

I would love to see Brian O'Driscoll take a hit from James Harrison or Ray Lewis. I would actually pay such good money to see that.

Hi tom as i said its my first time watching so don't know who james harrison or ray lewis are but i honestly don't understand your point as brian o'driscoll is a back in rugby although he is tough as hell the fowards is where the real animals are in rugby i just don't understand all the padding as i said i'm not running down american football just trying to understand it.

johnny_cash

eagle eye wrote: »

• Basically, a down is a play. From the time the ball is snapped (put into play), to the time the play is whistled over by the officials, is considered one down.
• A team's offense is given four downs (plays) to move ten yards toward the opponent's end zone.
• Distance is the number of yards a team needs to get a new set of four downs.
• If they make the ten yards needed within four downs, they are given a new set of downs. This is called getting a first down.
• If they don't make it the required ten yards, the other team's offense takes possession of the ball. An Example
• The first play of a series is called first-and-ten because it is the first down and ten yards are needed to receive a new set of four downs.
• Suppose on the first play, the team on offense picks up three yards. The next play would then be second-and-seven, because it is the second play of the set and they still need seven yards to get a first down.
• If they were to pick up six yards on the second play it would leave them one yard shy of the first down marker, therefore setting up a third-and-one situation. Third-and-one because it would be the third play of the series and they would still need one yard to get a first down.
• If the team with the ball can pick up one yard or more on the third-down play, then they will be given a first down, which means they get to start all over with a new set of four downs.
• A team can continue moving the football down the field as long as they continue to pick up first downs.
Fourth-Down Strategies
If a team fails to gain the required yardage on third down, several things could happen on fourth down:
• A team can elect to "go for it" on fourth down and try to pick up the remaining yardage, but they run the risk of turning the ball over to the other team if they do not get to the first down marker. If they do not get the required yardage, the other team takes possession of the ball at the spot of the last tackle and now has four downs to move ten yards back in the other direction.
• The majority of the time, teams will elect to "punt" the ball away on fourth down. A punt is simply a form of kicking the ball that gives possession of the ball to the other team, but also pushes them back considerably farther away from the end zone.
• Another option is to kick a field goal. If a team feels they are close enough to kick the ball between the upright bars of the goal post in their opponent's endzone, they may attempt a field goal, which is worth three points when converted successfully.
After a Score
• After a team scores via a touchdown or field goal, they must, in turn, kick off to the other team, and the process begins all over again.

Thanks for that i understand what you mean i honestly do appreciate it as i said i aint running down american football just trying to understand it.The one thing i don't get is all the stoppages but its probably advertising and all that.

Peyton Manning

johnny_cash wrote: »

Hi tom as i said its my first time watching so don't know who james harrison or ray lewis are but i honestly don't understand your point as brian o'driscoll is a back in rugby although he is tough as hell the fowards is where the real animals are in rugby i just don't understand all the padding as i said i'm not running down american football just trying to understand it.

Cool story bro. I'd still love to see it though.

JohnnyRyan99

Tom_Brady wrote: »

I would love to see Brian O'Driscoll take a hit from James Harrison or Ray Lewis. I would actually pay such good money to see that.

Fúck that pad O Connel up and get him taking a full force hit from Ray Lewis!

johnny_cash

Tom_Brady wrote: »

Cool story bro. I'd still love to see it though.

I don't know what to say as i said i don't know them but i'll take your word for it i'm guessing they are pretty serious guys I'm still not liking all the stoppages though

johnny_cash

I see paulie is not up to ray lewis standards my thinks it's time for youtube to check out ray lewis

Peyton Manning

johnny_cash wrote: »

I don't know what to say as i said i don't know them but i'll take your word for it i'm guessing they are pretty serious guys I'm still not liking all the stoppages though

Well you'll have to put up with them if you want to keep watching. A word of advice though, it's not advisable to come into a forum and declare the sport that everyone in the forum loves "the worst contact sport in the world" and "a joke". It's incredibly ignorant, regardless of whether you want to learn or not.

eagle eye

johnny_cash wrote: »

Thanks for that i understand what you mean i honestly do appreciate it as i said i aint running down american football just trying to understand it.The one thing i don't get is all the stoppages but its probably advertising and all that.

There are loads of stoppages in rugby, every time there is a lineout, scrum etc.

I played rugby at provincial level for a couple of years. I can tell you that at that level and lower the hitting is not nearly as powerful as it is in American football. The padding is to prevent injury to players.

Eire-Dearg

johnny_cash wrote: »

I see paulie is not up to ray lewis standards my thinks it's time for youtube to check out ray lewis

There'd be a nasty surprise in BOD's boxers if he got hit from Ray Lewis.

johnny_cash

I wasn't trying to be ignorant tom sorry if you took offence as i said i just don't understand the padding in a contact sport by the way i would love to see paulie dance like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXC0AmlIuRs

Peyton Manning

johnny_cash wrote: »

I wasn't trying to be ignorant tom sorry if you took offence as i said i just don't understand the padding in a contact sport by the way i would love to see paulie dance like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXC0AmlIuRs

No worries Johnny, just very defensive when it comes to my beloved sport!

johnny_cash

Tom_Brady wrote: »

No worries Johnny, just very defensive when it comes to my beloved sport!

I think you should change your location though tom a man from kilkenny whos beloved sport is american football :eek:

eagle eye

johnny_cash wrote: »

I think you should change your location though tom a man from kilkenny whos beloved sport is american football :eek:

Please quit the rubbish. It doesn't matter what your location is, if you love a sport you love it.

Peyton Manning

eagle eye wrote: »

Please quit the rubbish. It doesn't matter what your location is, if you love a sport you love it.

Think that was probably a reference to hurling, and it's something I get all the time! People assume being from Kilkenny that you worship hurling. Couldn't be further from the truth Johnny, I just don't like the sport! Still doesn't stop me jumping on the bandwagon every September though

johnny_cash

eagle eye wrote: »

Please quit the rubbish. It doesn't matter what your location is, if you love a sport you love it.

I was only messing eagle eye can you not take a joke? i was only messing as kilkenny is the biggest hurling county in ireland.

Eire-Dearg

eagle eye wrote: »

Please quit the rubbish. It doesn't matter what your location is, if you love a sport you love it.

Joke, obviously?

eagle eye

johnny_cash wrote: »

I was only messing eagle eye can you not take a joke? i was only messing as kilkenny is the biggest hurling county in ireland.

Oh right my bad, if you had used the big green smiley I would have gotten it.

JohnnyRyan99

I wonder if he thinks your name is really Tom Brady?

johnny_cash

I have to be honest now guys the only reason i was watching this game is because i have won the best part of a grand the last few day so was on bet365 and seen it in play betting the score was 0-7 so i threw €50 on the 49ers +13.5 haha not looking the best for me but i honestly am starting to enjoy the game

Peyton Manning

JohnnyRyan99 wrote: »

I wonder if he thinks your name is really Tom Brady?

Heading down to the courthouse tomorrow morning to sort that one out!

johnny_cash

JohnnyRyan99 wrote: »

I wonder if he thinks your name is really Tom Brady?

no but i bet your name is johnny ryan

eagle eye

It must be really sick for a return guy to do all that and then turn around and see a stupid flag.

Peyton Manning

eagle eye wrote: »

It must be really sick for a return guy to do all that and then turn around and see a stupid flag.

Imagine how sick you would be feeling right now had you placed that bet!

eagle eye

Tom_Brady wrote: »

Imagine how sick you would be feeling right now had you placed that bet!

Yeah it would have been pretty sick alright. Thankfully I have no bets on this game because they would have been on Ginn and the 49ers.

JohnnyRyan99

johnny_cash wrote: »

no but i bet your name is johnny ryan

Jonathan actually!! But thats too long:o

johnny_cash

It's not looking good i think it's time to bring on the waterboy

johnny_cash

The one thing i don't understand guys do you know when the quarterback throws the ball what happens when the teammate dont catch it?

eagle eye

johnny_cash wrote: »

The one thing i don't understand guys do you know when the quarterback throws the ball what happens when the teammate dont catch it?

If its not caught by a player on the opposing team then its an incomplete pass and the play is over and you move on to the next down.

eagle eye

I remember there was somebody here that thought Alex Smith was a real good QB.

Do you want to own up now?

johnny_cash

eagle eye wrote: »

If its not caught by a player on the opposing team then its an incomplete pass and the play is over and you move on to the next down.

Thanks does the play restart from where the quarterback threw the ball or where the ball lands?

eagle eye

johnny_cash wrote: »

Thanks does the play restart from where the quarterback threw the ball or where the ball lands?

From the line of scrimmage. And before you ask what he line of scrimmage is, I posted that earlier.

eagle eye

What is Singletary at? The game is over, it was clearly something that there is no chance of overturning. Like how stupid is that guy?

Itssoeasy

Singletary has never impressed me as a head coach tbh. Great player but I feel his playing reputation has helped cover over his flaws. That episode with vernon Davis sumed it up for me.

Benimar

According to Jason LaCanfora on Twitter Rex Grossman is starting for the Redskins on Sunday. Players are supposed to be very unhappy that McNabb is benched.

Itssoeasy

on nfl.com now as breaking news. As an eagles fan I won't say I'm happy about mcnabbs situation as from 1999 to 2010 mcnabb was the only I saw play. But jesus Rex ****ing grossman though. Ouch Donnie.

Oat23

Sexy Rexy is back!!

LuckyGent88

never mind the redskins quarterback situation, have they got rid of there kicker yet cause he is a shambles....he would have missed the extra point last weekend even if the holder had caught the ball