Heckler & Koch SL-8 .223 Semi Auto Rifle.

Operator

I am selling my Heckler & Koch SL-8 semi auto rifle. It has been properly bedded in and has only fire a couple of hundred rounds. It currently has open sights but has a picatiny rail mount. RRP E1800 Will sell for E1200 ono. PM for further details.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X161rIJgaxc

gunhappy_ie

Operator wrote: »

I am selling my Heckler & Koch SL-8 semi auto rifle. It has been properly bedded in and has only fire a couple of hundred rounds. It currently has open sights but has a picatiny rail mount. RRP E1800 Will sell for E1200 ono. PM for further details.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X161rIJgaxc

how many mags ?


any accessories ??

Operator

One 10 Rd Mag (10 rd max as per regulation) and new Bipod included.

gunhappy_ie

Operator wrote: »

One 10 Rd Mag (10 rd max as per regulation) and new Bipod included.

What Bipod ?

There is no max magazine capacity.

Sorry ... what model SL-8 is it ???

Operator

Under the new regulations the max mag capacity is 10 rds, im quite certain. A larger capacity magazine makes it a restricted firearm. It was a particular point I used to get the licence when summonsed to the local super to produce the firearm for inspection. In any case this is irrelevant as it is within the regs.

Harris bipod (New)

SL8-5

The SL8-5 differs from the SL8-4(The SL8-4 is a black standard SL8 with vented forearm) only in that it uses the same long rail with ironsights as the SL8-1.

I stand corrected, Gunhappy is correct on the restricted firearm.

gunhappy_ie

Operator wrote: »

Under the new regulations the max mag capacity is 10 rds, im quite certain. A larger capacity magazine makes it a restricted firearm. It was a particular point I used to get the licence when summonsed to the local super to produce the firearm for inspection. In any case this is irrelevant as it is within the regs.

Harris bipod (New)

SL8-5

The SL8-5 differs from the SL8-4(The SL8-4 is a black standard SL8 with vented forearm) only in that it uses the same long rail with ironsights as the SL8-1.

All semi auto centerfire rifles despite its mag capacity is a restricted rifle.

only .22 semi autos with a mag capacity over 10 become restricted.

4. (1) Firearms other than those to which subparagraph (2) relates are
declared to be restricted firearms for the purposes of the Act:
(2) This subparagraph relates to the following firearms:
(a) single-shot or repeating short firearms capable of discharging only
blank ammunition;
(b) shotguns manufactured, adapted or modified so as to render them
incapable of containing more than 3 cartridges, but not to shotguns—
(i) with a detached, folding or telescopic stock, or
(ii) with a pistol grip, or
(iii) whose barrel is less than 60.9 centimetres (24 inches) in length;
(c) the following long firearms (not being assault rifles or bullpup rifles):
(i) single-shot or repeating rifled centre-fire firearms of a calibre not
exceeding 7.62 millimetres (.308 inch) and whose overall length
is greater than 90 centimetres,
(ii) single-shot, repeating or semi-automatic rim-fire firearms
designed to fire rim-fire percussion ammunition and with a magazine
having a capacity of not more than 10 rounds,
(iii) air-operated rifled or smoothbore firearms;
(d) silencers capable of being used only with long rifled rim-fire firearms;
(e) the following short firearms designed for use in connection with competitions
governed by International Olympic Committee regulations:
(i) air-operated firearms of 4.5 millimetres (.177 inch) calibre,
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(ii) firearms using .22 inch rim-fire percussion ammunition.



Ive already owned an SL8 and it is a restricted but have sold my SA R4 and am looking at my options.

It wasn't me!

Operator wrote: »

Under the new regulations the max mag capacity is 10 rds, im quite certain. A larger capacity magazine makes it a restricted firearm. It was a particular point I used to get the licence when summonsed to the local super to produce the firearm for inspection. In any case this is irrelevant as it is within the regs.

Harris bipod (New)

SL8-5

The SL8-5 differs from the SL8-4(The SL8-4 is a black standard SL8 with vented forearm) only in that it uses the same long rail with ironsights as the SL8-1.

That's only for .22LR rimfires, and if you have an unrestricted licence for that firearm, your licence is invalid and you're therefore in possession of an unlicensed restricted firearm. If I were you, I'd hand that in to an appropriate dealer immediately and get it sorted out. Your super isn't entitled to grant you the licence, only the chief super, and it's not his fault either, as the onus is on you to provide accurate information when applying, so if you ticked for an unrestricted licence on the form, you have supplied false information and your application is invalid.

Sparks

gunhappy_ie wrote: »

All semi auto centerfire rifles despite its mag capacity is a restricted rifle.

only .22 semi autos with a mag capacity over 10 become restricted.

Spot on. Don't know who told you otherwise Operator, but you could put a 100-round double-drum magazine on that rifle and it wouldn't affect it's restricted/non-restricted status.

What might however, would be someone looking at it and going "that looks like an assault rifle", but that's the kind of awful crud we can't predict ahead of time, can't really objectively define and generally shouldn't have been in the Act to begin with

It wasn't me!

Sparks wrote: »

Spot on. Don't know who told you otherwise Operator, but you could put a 100-round double-drum magazine on that rifle and it wouldn't affect it's restricted/non-restricted status.

What might however, would be someone looking at it and going "that looks like an assault rifle", but that's the kind of awful crud we can't predict ahead of time, can't really objectively define and generally shouldn't have been in the Act to begin with

It's also a semi-auto centrefire. Very definitely restricted right off the bat.

christyler

Great piece of kit, I nearly bought one but went for the MR223 instead. Thats a great price as well.
Good Luck with the sale

Operator

Well i sat with him in his office while he inspected it, photgraphed it, googled it and sent the pics to the chief so i dont think I could have provided him with much more information.

However the "ASSAULT RIFLE" point is very valid and is what I believed was going to be the grounds for refusal however he decided otherwise.

It wasn't me!

Operator wrote: »

Well i sat with him in his office while he inspected it, photgraphed it, googled it and sent the pics to the chief so i dont think I could have provided him with much more information.

However the "ASSAULT RIFLE" point is very valid and is what I believed was going to be the grouunds for refusal however he decided otherwise.

Yeah, but the law says it's your problem if there's a mistake, and you're legally culpable. If your super gave you a licence for it, it's illegal for you to have it, as there's no way he can grant you a legally valid licence. It's also a semi-auto centrefire, which is explicitly restricted. You really need to get that to an RFD while you clear things up. Otherwise you're in possession of an unlicensed restricted firearm.

Sparks

Operator wrote: »

Well i sat with him in his office while he inspected it, photgraphed it, googled it and sent the pics to the chief so i dont think I could have provided him with much more information.

The problem is that the law says it is your responsibility to apply for the right kind of licence (ie. restricted or unrestricted) so if the local Super screwed up and gave you an unrestricted licence, then you currently have possession of an unlicenced firearm because that unrestricted licence would be null and void legally. So if you have an unrestricted licence, you should probably get the rifle into storage with your local firearms dealer rapidly and talk to your local Super!

However the "ASSAULT RIFLE" point is very valid and is what I believed was going to be the grouunds for refusal however he decided otherwise.

That wouldn't be grounds for refusal, not under the current law. It might be his personal reason for refusing, but he would have to cite another reason defensible under the law for the decision.

Operator

Sparks wrote: »

The problem is that the law says it is your responsibility to apply for the right kind of licence (ie. restricted or unrestricted) so if the local Super screwed up and gave you an unrestricted licence, then you currently have possession of an unlicenced firearm because that unrestricted licence would be null and void legally. So if you have an unrestricted licence, you should probably get the rifle into storage with your local firearms dealer rapidly and talk to your local Super!


That wouldn't be grounds for refusal, not under the current law. It might be his personal reason for refusing, but he would have to cite another reason defensible under the law for the decision.

Just to clarify this, I was mistaken in my statement about the restricted firearm, I have checked my licence and it is correctly licenced. This arose out of my incorrect statement that this was not restricted, in fact it is. My bad!

It wasn't me!

Operator wrote: »

Just to clarify this, I was mistaken in my statement about the restricted firearm, I have checked my licence and it is correctly licenced. This arose out of my incorrect statement that this was not restricted, in fact it is. My bad!

Was it your chief super or super who approved it?

Operator

Chief for Meath in Navan, the super refered the application, I have checked.

It wasn't me!

Operator wrote: »

Chief for Meath in Navan, the super refered the application, I have checked.

Good stuff. Just wanted to make sure you were covered. The whole thing's been a bloody mess without well-intentioned lads getting in trouble over forms it takes a few runs through to understand.

Operator

I agree, infact its so long since I did it Iv forgotten more than i remember. after destroying a pistol and all the paperwork involved in the current system I cant be bothered anymore. At least the licence is for 3 yrs now.

Cass

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