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Hunting Day and Night
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05-12-2010 11:32PM#1
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It wasn't me! wrote: »I've no issue with shooting without rests on shots I'm capable of making without them, but I'm pretty conservative with my shot choices too. If I'm at the edge of my capabilities, I'll pull back slightly, particularly at night. Those shots are for paper.
My comfortable range so far is about 50yards with a .22lr (dont know if thats good or bad) havent really had to many chances for further than that. But only after a year im happy with my progress
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(This isn't a lecture! Just an experience of mine!).I hadnt even thought of the safe shot part, damn..
I was out with a guy one night on his ground. We'd been following a fox and were close to getting him. The fox started going up a dome shaped hill and was nearing the top. There were some rushes on the hill also. I got down with the rifle in the hope of picking him off before he reached the crest.
I was asked if I could see the fox clearly enough to shoot it. By this time the fox had reached the crest, and had only deep blue night sky and stars as a back stop.
Given the company I was in, I lied. I said I could not see the fox because of the rushes. I have absolutely no doubt I would have hit and killed that fox then and there, none what so ever.
But, if I had missed? If that 55 grain Hornady bullet had gone whistling into the sky? How far would it have gone, what could it have hit?
The chance of it hitting property (as in house, car, livestock etc.) or people was pretty low given the country we were in. But that small chance will never ever be small enough for me to think a dangerous shot is worth the chance.
Lose my gun, hauled in by the cops, up in front of the judge, hassle with solicitors, maybe barristers? All those bills.
For a fox?
Nope
(Oh yeah, nailed him with a very safe shot across a swamp 20 yards before he got into a forestry, stopping to scent mark a tussock was a bad idea).0 -
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My comfortable range so far is about 50yards with a .22lr (dont know if thats good or bad) havent really had to many chances for further than that. But only after a year im happy with my progress
If you're cleanly killing everything (Presumably just rabbits) at that range, from various positions, then you'll have great fun shooting under a lamp. Easy enough to get your backstops good at that range and you'll certainly kill a lot of rabbits.0 -
johngalway wrote: »(This isn't a lecture! Just an experience of mine!).
I was out with a guy one night on his ground. We'd been following a fox and were close to getting him. The fox started going up a dome shaped hill and was nearing the top. There were some rushes on the hill also. I got down with the rifle in the hope of picking him off before he reached the crest.
I was asked if I could see the fox clearly enough to shoot it. By this time the fox had reached the crest, and had only deep blue night sky and stars as a back stop.
Given the company I was in, I lied. I said I could not see the fox because of the rushes. I have absolutely no doubt I would have hit and killed that fox then and there, none what so ever.
But, if I had missed? If that 55 grain Hornady bullet had gone whistling into the sky? How far would it have gone, what could it have hit?
The chance of it hitting property (as in house, car, livestock etc.) or people was pretty low given the country we were in. But that small chance will never ever be small enough for me to think a dangerous shot is worth the chance.
Lose my gun, hauled in by the cops, up in front of the judge, hassle with solicitors, maybe barristers? All those bills.
For a fox?
Nope
Na I totaly agree, I dont take shots 2the other side of a small field unless i know evrything is above board let alone large distances up a hill... Safety is a huge thing, i just hadnt thought of how it changes by night time0 -
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Scope white out from reflected light is another pain. Can be from your moderator, or from a high stem of grass or other obstacle in front of the rifle.
A rangefinder with good glass in it would be a good investment. You can also practice guessing ranges, pick something out, guess the range, then pace it out. It helps it you know how many of your paces make up 100 yards though, otherwise all the short arses in the country turn into crack shots over night 0 -
It wasn't me! wrote: »If you're cleanly killing everything (Presumably just rabbits) at that range, from various positions, then you'll have great fun shooting under a lamp. Easy enough to get your backstops good at that range and you'll certainly kill a lot of rabbits.
I always aim for head or to the chest depending.
Havent had many runners or squealers, thankfully, they all seem to "PASSOVER" straight off
Ya its all rabbits, ive heard foxes are made from tougher stuff and I wouldnt be comfortable taking that chance so i leave them be for now0 -
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johngalway wrote: »You can also practice guessing ranges, pick something out, guess the range, then pace it out. It helps it you know how many of your paces make up 100 yards though, otherwise all the short arses in the country turn into crack shots over night
Played GAA since was a kiddie so use the field lines as my guide for that, 60 yards is a familiar site 0 -
Is there much of a difference between shooting by day and by night.
I mean in the aiming side of things, are distance shots harder by night etc or is there any difference at all?
Also how many people shoot without using rests or bipods?
Just straight from a standing position or crouched
In my Exp, Shooting at night is harder as i8 have way more to do, lamp, scope mag, parralax adj, etc etc.
the minute you turn on your lamp you have given away your position.
During the day it sometimes can be easier find a point to take a few nice shots from.
I prefer to take as much shots as i can prone, however i can take off hand if the situation dictates so.
Not simple with a lamp on board, but do-able.
Now; If you are like JG and blessed with friends/neighbours who will hold a lamp for you on occasion it can be much simpler
However, a lamp man needs to know what he is doing too!
I brought a fella once who consistantly caught my eye with the lamp and dazzaled me, or was sporadic in lamp usage.
The lamper needs to have a system of lamping that you are familiar with, so very little or no speach is used to work together.
(not like a full blown high chat as seen on Ear to the ground lol )
i was out of action for the past few months lamping as I lost my lamp bracket.
but my local RFD got me one, so I AM BACK IN BUSINESS NOW
As some of the lads have said distance may be an issue, however most reticles are range finding and if you keep it at low mag and teh fox looks tiny, he is generally far away (or small)
I have my usual haunts that I have range found, also remember
ESB, Phone Poles are ~exact distances apart.
There are other several methods of range estimation that one can use (bracketing etc).
handiest one is to walk the land during daylight as shadows can make shapes appear longer etc.0 -
Tackleberrywho wrote: »If you are like JG and blessed with friends/neighbours who will hold a lamp for you on occasion it can be much simpler
99% of the time my lamp is on my scope. 0 -
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jees lads you over complicate the thing;) rangefinders parralax zoom big fox small fox
put the x hairs on the fox you should be able to judge the distance surely by the size of the fox compared to the reticule adjust and pull the trigger , i have found over the years that as simple a setup as possible is what's needed for lamping , a flat shooting calibre that you are comfortable/competant and familiar with, a fixed magnification scope with as big an objective lens as possible with preferably a7 type reticule that you can use for rough range estimation and point and pull
all those other bits and bobs to my mind are fine for daytime shooting where you can shoot out to 4-5-600 yrds but for lamping where the majority of shots are under 200 are not needed
there is a friend of mine that has shot more foxes than all of us put together all he uses is a fixed power scope and a hornet
the old saying KISS springs to mind0 -
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johngalway wrote: » 99% of the time my lamp is on my scope.
Well the "Niall" and "John" lad are mentioned a lot in your stories.
My two best Lampers emigrated.
My VSSF is a bit awkward for lamping, more a daytime varminter.
The .308 would be ideal, but perish the thoughts of mentioning it to be used on Foxes at night!0 -
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Tackleberrywho wrote: »Well the "Niall" and "John" lad are mentioned a lot in your stories.
So do sheep but they're not lamping for me either
Apart from rare occasions I will always have the lamp clipped to my scope (when I'm ready for a shot that is - not scanning around). Learned to do that since I discovered that the lamper standing six foot tall or so may see the fox clearly while the shooter down at ground level may not be able to see the fox at all. Then there is the case of the long fox the shooter is about to pull on, except the lamper can't quite see the fox properly and moves the lamp just at the wrong time.
Basically too much crap to go wrong so I do my own lamping 0 -
johngalway wrote: »So do sheep but they're not lamping for me either
Apart from rare occasions I will always have the lamp clipped to my scope. Learned to do that since I discovered that the lamper standing foot tall or so may see the fox clearly while the shooter down at ground level may not be able to see the fox at all. Then there is the case of the long fox the shooter is about to pull on, except the lamper can't quite see the fox properly and moves the lamp just at the wrong time.
Basically too much crap to go wrong so I do my own lamping
I must venture out whest before all the foxes are gone.
Very few remote areas near home to go lamping, I'd be concerned at locals giving out about shooting at night.
Even with the Mod on the .223 can make a nice craic if fired across a concave surface.
I have noticed that there is almost no sound even from the .308 when there is snow on the ground, like a natural sound absorber.
I'm working nights at teh mo, so I will have more awake time at night, and it will keep me off the demon drink!
I met a few lads out lamping the other night, first time I ever met folk out lamping whilst I was doing same.0 -
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