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Has landlord failed in his obligation?

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    #32
    Pkiernan
    Registered Users Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Avns1s wrote: »
    Well they shouldn't have been and its against all regulations to have them wired such that they can both be on at the same time.

    A 9 KW Shower works of about 40A, this is 80A for the pair and this does not include any lights, heaters, etc that might be runing as well. The normal supply to a domestic installation is fused by the ESB at 63A. The maths are pretty simple.

    It is for this reason that an installation must be wired with switching gear which prevents both shoers being on at the same time.

    This is the best and most accurate post of this thread so far.


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    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,486 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    ztoical wrote: »
    They aren't obligated

    That's the second time I've seen the word obligated in this forum. Why the American English?


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    #34
    lucernarian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Avns1s wrote: »
    Well they shouldn't have been and its against all regulations to have them wired such that they can both be on at the same time.

    A 9 KW Shower works of about 40A, this is 80A for the pair and this does not include any lights, heaters, etc that might be runing as well. The normal supply to a domestic installation is fused by the ESB at 63A. The maths are pretty simple.

    It is for this reason that an installation must be wired with switching gear which prevents both shoers being on at the same time.
    It is incorrect to say that it is against all regulations. If someone obtains an enhanced supply off the ESB, then the main ESB supplied fuse is upped to 80 Amps, possibly among other changes to the supply end. The ESB themselves say that such an installation or upgrade is suitable for those wishing to power 2 simultaneous electric showers.


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    #35
    ztoical
    Registered Users Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    That's the second time I've seen the word obligated in this forum. Why the American English?

    Cus I did my BA degree in America and it's force of habbit.


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    #36
    Avns1s
    Registered Users Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    It is incorrect to say that it is against all regulations. If someone obtains an enhanced supply off the ESB, then the main ESB supplied fuse is upped to 80 Amps, possibly among other changes to the supply end. The ESB themselves say that such an installation or upgrade is suitable for those wishing to power 2 simultaneous electric showers.

    I wonder what percentage of domestic installations have this enhanced supply? Very few, I would think.


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    #37
    Xiney
    Registered Users Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    Just putting up another hand for non electric showers being a deal breaker.

    (other deal breakers: carpets, those awful couches with wooden armrests, combination washer/dryers or no dryer)


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    #38
    ricman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭ricman


    its an easy mistake to make, power shower ,s look almost identical, to immersion showers, I didnt know till my sister told me to switch on immersion,30 mins be4 i use it,THAT it was not a powershower..But its up to the prospective tenant to check before renting or signing the lease, what facilitys the apartment has.


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