Lowest Temp a Springer spaniel can survive in

kermitpwee

It's supposed to hit -13 tonight so what is the lowest temp a dog like a springer can survive in. My fell always sleeps in the boiler house but I have to have the boiler off for him to be in there as its leaking. I'm guessing it will still get cold in there. I cant bring him inside as my mam wont allow it. So what temp would he be in trouble at?

Glensman

B&B for your mam?

Kells...

Glensman wrote: »

B&B for your mam?

+1 Just sneak him in

kermitpwee

Might be the only option!!

johnner1

tell her hypothermia starts to set in at -5;)
get her to look at forecast, and tell her if the dog dies it will be totally down to her refusal to let him in.
will she not let you pen him off in the kitchen or utility room?
if i said i was putting my lad out of the kitchen for the winter id be shown the door first

tonytoc11

Ya ive a cocker spaniel and im a bit worried about him. I got him one of those jackets yesterday but might bring him in tonight.

fodda

Try stoppin out in this temp for an hour in a small area and see how you feel.
A dogs fur coat is useless in these tempretures for keeping warm and leaving a dog out in a kennel anywhere below feezing is just plain cruelty:mad::mad::mad: never mind minus 13:eek:

meathstevie

The clue to the whole affair is that you want him of the ground in a dry spot on a good layer of bedding and out of the wind. A dry kennel with a foot of straw as bedding and a good flap ( heavy cloth or lino ) in front of the entry would do the trick.

Birdnuts

Don't worry bout it - both my gundogs spent last winters -12C nights in a cold shed without any bother(though there drinking bowl froze alot:().

PS: This wasn't my fault, my land-lady lived next door and was a real b*tch:mad:

garv123

if the dogs have a shelter and a nice bedding they will be fine. last year my two cocker spaniels (one was 14) were out in the weather like this over xmas and they were fine in their houses tucked up with a good bedding and the door almost closed blocking the rain and wind but enough to let them in and out. we did get them decent jackets though. maybe no harm investing in one maybe op if you could?

lamper35

fodda wrote: »

Try stoppin out in this temp for an hour in a small area and see how you feel.
A dogs fur coat is useless in these tempretures for keeping warm and leaving a dog out in a kennel anywhere below feezing is just plain cruelty:mad::mad::mad: never mind minus 13:eek:

2 things here fodda how can u compare a human being out in the cold too a dog...dogs are born with fur too keep them warm and dry (besides having a kennell)...if we go out in the cold im sure we are sensible enough too wear clothes:D

Leaving a dog in a nice dry kennell with bedding as all us hunters love our dogs this is far from cruelty..google animal cruelty and u wont see any nice snug dog in a nice snug kennell on a nice snug bed in any of the pics:rolleyes:

snipe02

kermitpwee wrote: »

It's supposed to hit -13 tonight so what is the lowest temp a dog like a springer can survive in. My fell always sleeps in the boiler house but I have to have the boiler off for him to be in there as its leaking. I'm guessing it will still get cold in there. I cant bring him inside as my mam wont allow it. So what temp would he be in trouble at?

go to your local farm suppliers tomorrow and get yourself a heat lamp the last one i got cost about 20 quid still have it....it will serve well for winter \pups \sick or injured dog along with some bedding your dog will be better of than yourself better clear it with your ma bit extra on the electricity but not much

jap gt

my setter is out in the cold, up on a bench in a concrete built kennel thats ply lined kennel with a good load of straw under and around her, its very warm in there never had frozen water yet, dogs warmer than i am

macadam

My 3 are after getting warm tea with sugar and milk with a slice of brown bread in their bowls, all in individual insulated kennels each with a horse blanket, I never take them in and when I go out in the morning they will be waiting for a good 15min run.
The way a dog keeps warm is by sticking his nose into his midriff and blowing warm air on him self whilst he sleeps, dont worry about them they will be sound.
I did notice mine got more hairy since last week.

Cass

On a lighter note was down with Fergal White and his dog was asleep in the back garden. I asked him would he not put him into the house (i mean dog house. Concrete shed with bedding, etc). He said he loves it out here with this weather. By the way this is his dog................



...................... malamute. Huge dog and bred for extreme weather conditions. fergal said this kind of weather makes his life easier as the other 10-11 months of the year the dog is killed in the heat.

Sorry for the slightly off-topic post.

johnner1

ezridax wrote: »

. By the way this is his dog................



...................... malamute. Huge dog and bred for extreme weather conditions. fergal said this kind of weather makes his life easier as the other 10-11 months of the year the dog is killed in the heat.

Sorry for the slightly off-topic post.

weather don't look that extreme in that picture;)

Cass

Go stand outside for an hour. :rolleyes:

yog1

my dogs are in a dog shed, they each have their own run and their own beds, which is a ply sheet set on top of a few blocks,
for some reason they wont lie on the beds, but lie at the front of the run where they can look out to the street,
now at this point i must point out that these are american akita's and akita cross dogs (and 1 collie)
the beds were only put in a few weeks ago so they wouldn't be lie'n on the floor during the cold spell but they dont seem to be using it, at first i just though it wasn't cold enough for them to use the new beds and just liked the view,
how do i get them sensed into lieing on the bed's
the working sheepdog used to lie in the back of the pen but i dont know if he sleeps there now,
sorry for going off thread,but i'd rather ask you guys, than the over the top animal lovers who'd tell me to bring them all inside, which doesn't suit with 7 dogs

fodda

As an animal lover and shooter/hunter of many years your problem could be a number of things and none of them being the dogs like being outside.

Some of that plywood has an awful stink off it and to a dogs nose which is 1000 times more sensative than ours it could be repulsive not to mention the glues ... maybe thats the reason?? ... try replacing the ply with floorboards untreated.

If a dog has plenty (bale or 2) of dry straw he can make his own bed and also he can move about to keep warm but i have seen dogs with nothing or at best an old jumper or wet carpet if they were lucky.

johngalway

If you've any sheep farmers around you, see if you can get hold of a few fleeces. If that don't keep him warm nothing will :pac: Mind you, straw is a lot handier to dispose of.

kermitpwee

Thanks folks. My dog never gets into the house. I only got back there at 11pm and guess where the dog was? In front of the stove with me mam. She brought him in around 5pm. Couldnt believe it:D

Victor

yog1 wrote: »

my dogs are in a dog shed, they each have their own run and their own beds, which is a ply sheet set on top of a few blocks,
for some reason they wont lie on the beds, but lie at the front of the run where they can look out to the street,
now at this point i must point out that these are american akita's and akita cross dogs (and 1 collie)
the beds were only put in a few weeks ago so they wouldn't be lie'n on the floor during the cold spell but they dont seem to be using it, at first i just though it wasn't cold enough for them to use the new beds and just liked the view,
how do i get them sensed into lieing on the bed's

Whatever about odd smells, I imagine most animals like what they are familiar with and are sometimes hesitant to use something new. My uncle bought a new kennel and the dog outright refused to use it. I wonder if some other dog had used it, even temporarily.

patsat

ezridax wrote: »

On a lighter note was down with Fergal White and his dog was asleep in the back garden. I asked him would he not put him into the house (i mean dog house. Concrete shed with bedding, etc). He said he loves it out here with this weather. By the way this is his dog................



...................... malamute. Huge dog and bred for extreme weather conditions. fergal said this kind of weather makes his life easier as the other 10-11 months of the year the dog is killed in the heat.

Sorry for the slightly off-topic post.

Have to say that dog was the first thing that comes to mind when I would be travelling up to Fergal! Although one night I had a handful trying to keep him out of my ca...and he won that battle!

Not sure about spaniels but my own dog (saint Bernard) has no worries... His house is well insulated yet when I went out this evening to change his water an feed him he was lying down in the snow!

Cass

He is a fecker for pushing up against you for a rub, and he isn't exactly small. I remember one time trying to push him away and Figgy said don't worry he won't bite. I said i'm not worried about biting, but what if he starts to sh*g my leg. Figgy's answer...........


....... LET HIM FINISH.





In relation to the springers or any other dogs for that matter. I have been out many a times over the years and the dogs would be in and out of streams, etc and it wouldn't be warm. Granted not as cold as now, but last year one of my mates was concerned as we were having similar weather to what we have now. His solution was to run a cable to the dog run and install a heat lamp. He took every precaution against fire (insulated the wires, making sure there was no straw under the lamp, etc). Seemed to work a treat.

After all that though he still felt bad when it was hitting the -10 (and he wouldn't be known for having a soft spot) so he used to bring the dog into the back door hall (6' x 6' room) and let him sleep there.

mallards

I have five dogs outside split between three dog runs. Each run has a block built dog house with an opening 20"X16", Through that there is a wind baffle and then a bed of 6 inches deep woodshavings. Where I am in the mountains, it has already hit -11 degrees C and stays cold throughout each winter and the dogs are grand. Even the GSP is comfortable in these conditions.

Mallards

cavan shooter

My dog (springer) gets a warm meal instead of dry food in cold weather

He has a dog box raised of the ground with a doggie mattress in it
He has a fur coat:D

He is more often or not seeing barking at the snow flakes and rolling in the snow

I think they are fine. We are thinking of them as humans

My fear is split pads which happened last year in the cold so keep an eye on that

fodda

cavan shooter wrote: »

I think they are fine. We are thinking of them as humans

Can i ask what you mean by this?

cavan shooter

My dog seems to love the snow and has spent most of his time playing in it. And so long as they are dry and can stay dry I don't see a problem. I would never dream of going hunting when the weather gets so cold that he starts to shiver from being wet from hunting drains etc.

On the other hand we look out and say its freezing "You wouldn't put a dog out in that weather"

I think we try give them all the comforts we expect, the dog mightened want it. When I first put bedding in his box he used to scrape it out and only when I got the doggy mattress does he keep it in, He doesnt like being in the house because of the strange noises (washing machine, dryer, TV) and if he gets into the utility room as happened last year, he wouldnt settle.

Hope thats clearerrr:)

fodda

No problem CS and i agree with you,:)

kermitpwee

Dog is alive and well this morning:D

dicky82

as one of the previous posters said, once the bed is raised off the ground and dry, then the poochy should be ok, dogs have a tougher time in hotter weather than cold. my mutts are all doing well and seem to enjoy the snow more than some of the kids around the place.

spare a thought for the poor piebald horses/ponies that have their arses stuck into hedge rows to try keep out of the cold.

Glensman

ezridax wrote: »

On a lighter note was down with Fergal White and his dog was asleep in the back garden. I asked him would he not put him into the house (i mean dog house. Concrete shed with bedding, etc). He said he loves it out here with this weather. By the way this is his dog................



...................... malamute. Huge dog and bred for extreme weather conditions. fergal said this kind of weather makes his life easier as the other 10-11 months of the year the dog is killed in the heat.

Sorry for the slightly off-topic post.

I love that dog. It's class the way he howls like he's singin when you're getting out of the car!

On the cold though, my pointer stays indoors all the time, over the past days i've noticed her shivering! Yesterday she was lying on the sofa beside me and her teeth were chattering! I had to go get her a blanket :eek:

lamper35

dicky82 wrote: »

as one of the previous posters said, once the bed is raised off the ground and dry, then the poochy should be ok, dogs have a tougher time in hotter weather than cold. my mutts are all doing well and seem to enjoy the snow more than some of the kids around the place.

spare a thought for the poor piebald horses/ponies that have their arses stuck into hedge rows to try keep out of the cold.

funny u should say that seen a dead foal today on my travels

johnner1

lamper35 wrote: »

funny u should say that seen a dead foal today on my travels

i hope you were on the dog and bone to the local animal curelty people to report what you have seen.

lamper35

johnner1 wrote: »

i hope you were on the dog and bone to the local animal curelty people to report what you have seen.

no point there was only an article on the front page of our local paper today saying the limerick animal welfare have no full time inspector here and there not allowed on privat land too inspect..nor can the gardai do anythin either cause if u wanta horse too be collected or homed u have too pay te pound too go out as there a privte organiation and noone i willing too pay....front page of limerick post google it and u can have a read..i no its madness but thats another topic