South Africa v India

booth70

Forget the Ashes.....India v South Africa in South Africa......the REAL DEAL starts in 3 weeks time!!

Rjd2

Steyn will destroy India on Saffer pitches, Raina especially is going to struggle horribly.

booth70

Its all about Steyn v Sehwag.....nothing else matters:)

JustinDee

booth70 wrote: »

Forget the Ashes.....India v South Africa in South Africa......the REAL DEAL starts in 3 weeks time!!

Yeah right.

riffmongous

Does anyone know what Amla is averaging for this year so far?

Rjd2

JustinDee wrote: »

Yeah right.

A series between the number one and two in the world many would argue means a bit more than one between the number 4 and 5.

Dozen Wicked Words

A series that this year happens to be 1 v 2 is not the same as a series that has been played out for generations by the same 2 nations.

Would the current 1 v 2 be as interesting as India v Pakistan for OP?

I'll take the ashes anyday.

booth70

dooferoaks wrote: »

A series that this year happens to be 1 v 2 is not the same as a series that has been played out for generations by the same 2 nations.

Would the current 1 v 2 be as interesting as India v Pakistan for OP?

I'll take the ashes anyday.

Good point.....but what is the point of having the ICC rankings then

Except for a few series here and there, Ind v Pak matches have generally been boring, tedious affairs purely because of the nature of the pitches on the subcontinent.

India's record in SA is pretty abysmal... but that is exactly what makes this series a potentially mouth watering one given how strong their test record both home and away is over the last 3 years..but India have to win away in SA and Australia to prove that they are really worth their no: 1 status

Me personally...I would take India v Australia over any other test series.....its 9-9 to both teams in tests home and away over the last 12 years indicating how intense the rivalry has been.....and the reason for the OP was that the Ashes tests in Australia over the last 25 years have been so one sided that it does not deserve the hype or tripe that usually precedes it!!

dfx-

riffmongous wrote: »

Does anyone know what Amla is averaging for this year so far?

3 or 4 centuries I think, so must be well over 50

Always look forward to South African home tests, except Durban. Is Port Elizabeth pencilled in or is just Durban/Cape Town/Wanderers again?

JustinDee

Rjd2 wrote: »

A series between the number one and two in the world many would argue means a bit more than one between the number 4 and 5.

Its just another series between two incidental sides.
The Ashes has a lot more behind it than a world rankings fixture as does India v Pakistan or South Africa v England.
I personally couldn't give two hoots who won a series between South Africa v India. If the cricket's good, I might watch highlights.

booth70

dfx- wrote: »

3 or 4 centuries I think, so must be well over 50

Always look forward to South African home tests, except Durban. Is Port Elizabeth pencilled in or is just Durban/Cape Town/Wanderers again?

Supersport Park,Centurion
Kingsmead,Durban
Newlands,Capetown

in that order

Rjd2

riffmongous wrote: »

Does anyone know what Amla is averaging for this year so far?

In test cricket 81:eek::eek::eek:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=1;id=2010;type=year

riffmongous

Rjd2 wrote: »

In test cricket 81:eek::eek::eek:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=1;id=2010;type=year

I'd well believe it, he looks unstoppable at the moment. Thats a good link, if you look at the top 10 batsmen, 7 of them are going to be taking part in this series, compared to 2 in the Ashes.

Amla's ODI average is 75 for this year with only 1 not out

dfx-

JustinDee wrote: »

I personally couldn't give two hoots who won a series between South Africa v India. If the cricket's good, I might watch highlights.

You wouldn't like to see the world's best bowling attack against the best batting line-up on non flat, not dust bowls..?

I think you could give at least three Ashes tests a miss and not miss a thing...

JustinDee

dfx- wrote: »

You wouldn't like to see the world's best bowling attack against the best batting line-up on non flat, not dust bowls..

As I said, its a sideshow to me.
Couldn't care less who won it so highlights will do.

booth70

India have just won a total mismatch against New Zealand 5-0 in India and will as usual arrive in South Africa 4 days before the first test in conditions generally alien to them and totally underprepared....

The vagaries of the ICC ranking system is such that India will retain the no: 1 ranking even if they lose 3-0!!

Its really going to be all about how the top order handles Steyn and Morkel....Makes for a very interesting series

djimi

Theres other countries playing cricket at the moment...?

TrueDub

Let's keep series-specific threads on-topic please.

Rjd2

I got to fancy the Saffers in this. Their batting line up is fierce and Steyn and Morkel may be unplayable on bouncey pitches. The Indians do have a chance as Zaheer is capable of taking wickets on lively pitches but I fear that he may end up having to do to much. Harbajan is a bit hit and miss these days while Sharma/ Sressenth can be infuriating for different reasons.

I would also fear for Raina on this tour, he struggles horribly with the short ball in Test Cricket, Steyn could destroy him really.

booth70

Sehwag had a miserable tour to South Africa last time India went there in 2006....he is however now a different and more confident player...he will take Steyn on come what may and if he succeeds so will India...that confrontation alone sets this series up beautifully....

India may be no: 1 but agree SA start firm favourites

TrueDub

Unlikely to see any play today apparently, torrential rain in Joburg.

TrueDub

TrueDub wrote: »

Unlikely to see any play today apparently, torrential rain in Joburg.

Shows what I know - they're playing as I type.

Mothman

Steyn vs Sehwag lasts 3 balls

Does this set the tone for the series?

Edit, not first, 3rd ball

TrueDub

Mothman wrote: »

And Steyn gets Sehwag with his first ball.

Does this set the tone for the series?

Not the first ball from S to S, but your point still stands.

Judging purely from the Cricinfo commentary, it sounds like a stupid shot to play in the 2nd or 3rd over of a test match - an upper-cut over the slips with third-man in...

Mothman

TrueDub wrote: »

Not the first ball from S to S, but your point still stands.

Judging purely from the Cricinfo commentary, it sounds like a stupid shot to play in the 2nd or 3rd over of a test match - an upper-cut over the slips with third-man in...

Just jumped into commentary, and thought it was Steyn's first over.

We're spoilt with the 2 current series

11/1 after 6, and if the technology was being used, India would have been 2 down with Gambhir escaping a catch off a glove

Edit, commentary saying off the glove inconclusive, so perhaps not

booth70

TrueDub wrote: »

Judging purely from the Cricinfo commentary, it sounds like a stupid shot to play in the 2nd or 3rd over of a test match - an upper-cut over the slips with third-man in...

Sehwag does not know of any other way to play....great when it comes off...stupid when it dosen't!!

Nothing new as far as India is concerned....75/6 on a bouncy South African pitch.....not surprised given how underprepared they were for totally alien batting conditions....but still the BCCI will never learn

Their bowlers will hopefully bowl them back into the match like they normally do abroad!!

Dozen Wicked Words

Poor crowd in considering the rankings. Plenty of life in the test yet but India have been very poor with the bat up to now. Tendulkar apart.

Professional Snapperc

dooferoaks wrote: »

Poor crowd in considering the rankings.

It's small enough at the moment but It should pick up over the series.

riffmongous

135/9 with most of those runs coming off Tsotsobe, I always get the feeling that South Africa don't make the most of Kallis's bowling,I know he's getting old but he never seems to bowl enough

dfx-

Proteas:cool:

Do I remember that Kallis himself wants or opts to do less bowling than he used to?

Great to see Harbhajan's run out:pac:

Rjd2

dfx- wrote: »

Proteas:cool:



Great to see Harbhajan's run out:pac:

He was actually looking very good before that as well.Sachin looked superb when he was in, the rest however really struggled badly.

Raina...:pac::pac::P:D

JustinDee

The ball that got Tendulkar was a pearler.
Love seeing Singh and Gambhir making the long walk back.

d'Oracle

Looks from the text coverage, to be a pitch for the pacers?

How is Ishant getting on?

Also Who the hell is Unadkat?

dfx-

352/2

Smith 60, Kallis 102 n.o., Amla 103 n.o. and some lightweight bowling..:cool:

Cremated

Amla gets another Test ton, the guy is brilliant, really enjoy watching him play, any guess to how many Kallis and Amla can put on? ...

Mothman

Kallis must fancy finally nailing a double ton.

dfx-

Kallis will do what he always does, fall first thing the next morning

600 average for Amla against India:eek:

Cremated

dfx- wrote: »

Kallis will do what he always does, fall first thing the next morning

600 average for Amla against India:eek:

While I hope Kallis will get his double, I do think he will play some stupid shot near the double and get out, Amla looks much more composed,

has he got an Irish Passport?, :rolleyes:...

Corsendonk

Cremated wrote: »

Amla gets another Test ton, the guy is brilliant, really enjoy watching him play, any guess to how many Kallis and Amla can put on? ...

Kallis now one century behind Ponting on all time century list.

dfx-

Cremated wrote: »

While I hope Kallis will get his double, I do think he will play some stupid shot near the double and get out

He could be 399 n.o. overnight and he'd fall in the first couple of overs next morning. Frustrating because he's probably my favourite batsman. Slow and sturdy, then thumps a few sixes, gets 100 and then all bets are off as he switches off.

Cremated

Corsendonk wrote: »

Kallis now one century behind Ponting on all time century list.

Well I really hope Ponting can get at least one century in the Ashes, it's sad to see him play like this...

booth70

booth70 wrote: »

Forget the Ashes.....India v South Africa in South Africa......the REAL DEAL starts in 3 weeks time!!

Sorry folks......I meant the REAL MISMATCH

South Africa 471/3 and 335 ahead already!!

Mothman

Mothman wrote: »

Kallis must fancy finally nailing a double ton.

Only 3 to go...
AB blasted to a century off 75 balls.

And he's got it.

620/3!
484 runs ahead

Mothman

And SA declared at 620.

In the reply, not often one sees Sehwag out scored though Gambhir has had more of the strike. Sehwag just got single to bring them both to 59.
127/0

booth70

190/2 at the close.....still 294 behind

dfx-

Only thing left dodgy for Kallis now is his hair

Wonder if Laxman can do it again in the 2nd innings..

booth70

257/5....only SRT stands between SA and a thumping today

booth70

Jeez....didn't think the match would last this long....India still hanging on at 437/6....The GOD has just bought up His 50th test century....but you can't still help but think that SA are only a wicket away from wrapping this up

Cremated

And Steyn has broken the partnership and Dhoni is out for 90, will Harbhajan be able to control himself and hold back the big shots...

Rjd2

Raina needs to be dropped, he is a walking wicket right now, I don't see it getting any better really for him.Pujara or Vijay deserve a shot.

booth70

Rjd2 wrote: »

Raina needs to be dropped, he is a walking wicket right now, I don't see it getting any better really for him. Pujara or Vijay deserve a shot.

Pujara looked classy in that 2nd innings run chase against Australia in Bangalore....but South Africa in Durban will be a step up against a better bowling unit....but surely he deserves to be in the squad ahead of that flat track bully Raina....I'll have him at 3 and move Dravid down to 5

Vijay opens for his state side and has been pencilled in as an opener and can't see him play unless one of the openers loses form or is injured