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North Korea Shells South, South Retaliates

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Dunno if I should take this seriously, Kim Jong Il has made a Korea out of sabre-rattling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,736 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    60 years on the edge and theyve had plenty of "incidents" to piss both of them off, many instigated by the north. I doubt this will amount to anything more than a hiccup.

    I imagine DPRK will tell the entirely brainwashed populace about how they punished the south koreans but chose to show mercy, etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    Here is a more indept report from the BBC.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11818005
    North Korea has fired artillery shells across its western maritime border, prompting return fire from South Korea, officials say.


    Dozens of the shells landed on a South Korean island, from which plumes of smoke are rising. At least four soldiers are said to have been hurt.


    South Korea has issued its highest non-wartime alert in response.
    A BBC correspondent says this is one of the most serious incidents between the two Koreas since the end of the war.


    Top leaders are meeting in an underground bunker in Seoul over the incident, Reuters news agency reported.


    The incident comes days after North Korea revealed it had a modern uranium enrichment plant - potentially giving it a second route to a nuclear weapon.


    Earlier, the US ruled out more denuclearisation talks while Pyongyang continued to work on the facility.


    South Korean officials said artillery rounds landed on Yeonpyeong island, near the disputed inter-Korean maritime border to the west of the Korean Peninsula.


    "A North Korean artillery unit staged an illegal firing provocation at 1434 PM (0534 GMT) and South Korean troops fired back immediately in self-defence," a defence ministry spokesman told AFP.


    A resident on the island told the agency that dozens of houses were damaged, while television pictures reportedly showed plumes of smoke rising above the island.


    "Houses and mountains are on fire and people are evacuating. You can't see very well because of plumes of smoke," a witness on the island told YTN television station.


    "People are frightened to death and shelling continues as we speak," the witness said.


    South Korea had deployed fighter jets to the island, Yonhap news agency said.


    This western maritime border has been the scene of numerous clashes between the two Koreas in the past.


    In March, a South Korean warship went down near the border with the loss of 46 lives. International investigators say a North Korean torpedo sank the ship, although Pyongyang denies any role in the incident.


    Since then relations between the two neighbours - who have not signed a peace treaty since the 1950-53 Korean War - have been very tense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    "A North Korean artillery unit staged an illegal firing provocation at 1434 PM (0534 GMT) and South Korean troops fired back immediately in self-defence," a defence ministry spokesman told AFP.
    Is it ever legal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    This sort of malarky happens all the time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    dlofnep wrote: »
    This sort of malarky happens all the time.

    Incidents do happen but North Korea's after firing around 200 artillery rounds at the south. One Marine's dead and houses are ablaze. This is a worrying sign especially with the rise of Kim's son of whom very little is known about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    The only thing that will change North Korea is an internal revolution. But at what cost will it come?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    North Korea is best Korea.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,416 ✭✭✭Trampas


    At least it will take the news headlines away from Ireland


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Dunno if I should take this seriously, Kim Jong Il has made a Korea out of sabre-rattling.
    Ah leave him alone, he's just ronery.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,969 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    And we think we have problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    Gulp. Nuclear war is bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Mister men wrote: »
    Gulp. Nuclear war is bad.

    Not going to happen mon frere!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Not going to happen mon frere!
    Source?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Nothing will happen.
    The rest of the world will do the usual cowardly "tut-tut" bit and say little else to placate China - North Korea's mate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Mister men wrote: »
    Source?
    Where is your source of impending nuclear war?


  • Registered Users Posts: 970 ✭✭✭lemansky


    Mister men wrote: »
    Source?

    You'd imagine that North Korea sees itself as a lot of things, but not as a glowing crater.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭Guill


    All kicking off down there.


    When was Korea moved down there?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    North Korean shells hit disputed border island
    North Korea appears to have shelled a South Korean village with artillery today killing at least one person and injuring several others in one of the most serious incidents since the Korean war.

    South Korea scrambled F-16 jets to the scene after the surprise bombardment earlier this morning on an island close to the countries’ disputed maritime border.

    At least one South Korean soldier was killed and around 13 others injured. Two civilians were also hurt and dozens of buildings damaged by the attack on Yeonpyeong Island in the Yellow Sea.

    According to the South Korean media at least 50 shells landed on Yeonpyeong Island, provoking return fire from troops stationed there.

    YTN television quoted a witness as saying 60 to 70 houses were on fire after the shelling and TV footage showed plumes of smoke coming from the island.

    “Houses and mountains are on fire and people are evacuating. You can’t see very well because of plumes of smoke,” a witness on the island told YTN.

    “People are frightened to death.”

    A witness said residents had been evacuated during the shelling, which lasted for about an hour and then stopped abruptly.

    The island is about 3 km (1.8 miles) south of the sea border and 75 miles west of Seoul.

    China, the closest the isolated state of North Korea has to an ally, expressed concern about the incident.

    “A North Korean artillery unit staged an illegal firing provocation at 2:34pm [local time] and South Korean troops fired back immediately in self-defence,” a spokesman for Seoul’s defence ministry told AFP.

    Photographs taken from a boat offshore showed black smoke rising from the small town on the island which is hard up against the Northern Limit Line which separates the maritime territory of the two countries.

    One resident of the island, Lee Jong Sik, told South Korea’s YTN television : “At least ten houses are burning. I can’t see clearly for the smoke. The hillsides are also on fire. We were told by loudspeakers to flee our homes.”

    The area has been the site of repeated clashes since the Korean War. It was close to there in April that the Cheonan, the South Korean naval corvette, was sunk in what appears to have been a North Korean attack, with the loss of 46 lives.

    Three times before, in the past decade, there have been naval battles between North and South off Yeonpyeong Island – often in June during the peak fishing season for blue crab, when North Korean commercial boats sometimes flout the boundary in search of better fishing grounds.

    The attack comes just as a US envoy is travelling to the region after revelations that the North is moving ahead with uranium enrichment, a possible second path to manufacture material for atomic weapons.

    North Korea has said it wants to restart six-party nuclear disarmament talks it abandoned two years ago. But Seoul and Washington have said the North must move forward with previous pledges to curtail its nuclear programme.
    wwwthetimescoukttonewsw.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Is this the start of WW3? NK is chinas puppet, SK is Americas puppet. So basically china has seriously attacked America. china has bees shneakily buying up metal reserves in Africa over the last few years, and is involved in the IMF. The dollar is fcuked, they're printing it faster than they ever have, the Eurozone is fcuked, china is the only place doing well. Perfect timing to start a war:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Thoughts?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    newmug wrote: »
    Is this the start of WW3? NK is chinas puppet, SK is Americas puppet. So basically china has seriously attacked America. china has bees shneakily buying up metal reserves in Africa over the last few years, and is involved in the IMF. The dollar is fcuked, they're printing it faster than they ever have, the Eurozone is fcuked, china is the only place doing well. Perfect timing to start a war:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Thoughts?
    * America is over stretched and tired of fighting on too many fronts directly.
    They will do the usual political blustering.
    * China will back-up North Korea with a possible claim that South Korea started it
    * The European countries will say/do feck all because they are basically owned by China and/or have so much money invested there (potential opening market too) that they will cower into silence.

    In other words - NOTHING will come of it.
    After a few days, it will be old news ...till the next time of similar stupidity yet again, and again, and again...


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    newmug wrote: »
    Is this the start of WW3? NK is chinas puppet, SK is Americas puppet. So basically china has seriously attacked America. china has bees shneakily buying up metal reserves in Africa over the last few years, and is involved in the IMF. The dollar is fcuked, they're printing it faster than they ever have, the Eurozone is fcuked, china is the only place doing well. Perfect timing to start a war:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Thoughts?

    I like cake


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    "All right lads calm down calm down!"

    - China.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Darksaga87 wrote: »
    "All right lads calm down calm down!"

    - China.

    Liverpool, China?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Seems like a bit of a smacking the Island took.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Biggins wrote: »
    * America is over stretched and tired of fighting on too many fronts directly.

    You're right there, plus the North Koreans are fanatics. Completely brain washed and devoted to Kim Jong. The only way to approach a war with North Korea is Hiroshima style


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Can't even talk about N. Korea without mentioning Irish bailout........ FFS
    Shares fall on fears over North Korean attack and Irish bailout
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/nov/23/shares-fall-korea-ireland-fears


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    It all started over Kims undercooked dog burger!

    (apparently)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Liverpool, China?


    所有正確的小伙子,鎮定下來鎮定下來! 「
    -中國

    Better? ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee




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