Garda Car Buttons

snoopydoopy

Hi, I was walking by an Garda unmarked ford modeo today and it had the button thing on the dashboard like every other Garda. But this modeo only had two LEDS in the grill and one on back window.
Can someone tell me please why they need all the buttons. Im very curious
thanks,
SNOOPY !

sdanseo

It had more than that.

Also has a siren.

Also, the siren/light unit is probably generic - not all the buttons have to be functional.
Silly question.

Saxobank

and if the car gets more lights they can add more buttons to the panel..

belacqua_

snoopydoopy wrote: »

Hi, I was walking by an Garda unmarked ford modeo today and it had the button thing on the dashboard like every other Garda. But this modeo only had two LEDS in the grill and one on back window.
Can someone tell me please why they need all the buttons. Im very curious
thanks,
SNOOPY !

I probably shouldn't say, but on unmarked cars they're for the ejector seat, oil slick, smoke screen etc.

ivabiggon

...."and the gone for donuts" button,
VIP...... most worn out button on the panel, i heard from a friend of mine in the park that they've had to order extra donut buttons........:D

eroo

sdonn wrote: »

Silly question.

Ever heard the saying.. 'no such thing as a stupid question, only a stupid answer?'

The buttons are not solely for lights and sirens.. not sure whether it's info that should be made public?

eroo

eroo wrote: »

Ever heard the saying.. 'no such thing as a stupid question, only a stupid answer?'

The buttons are not solely for lights and sirens.. not sure whether it's info that should be made public?

They are blank.

Tango Alpha 51

eroo wrote: »

Ever heard the saying.. 'no such thing as a stupid question, only a stupid answer?'

The buttons are not solely for lights and sirens.. not sure whether it's info that should be made public?

Eroo, your right about no such thing as a silly question but as for the last part of your post inferring that the control panel buttons are for something else is also incorrect. Their are infact a generic light/siren control panel & some of the buttons are not functional depending on the lights fitted to the vehicle

eroo

buzzman wrote: »

Eroo, your right about no such thing as a silly question but as for the last part of your post inferring that the control panel buttons are for something else is also incorrect. Their are infact a generic light/siren control panel & some of the buttons are not functional depending on the lights fitted to the vehicle

Well the OP mentioned LED's and siren, so I figured they may not have known about 'run lock' etc?

I learn something new everyday!:)

eroo

foreign wrote: »

They are blank.

But the OP wasn't asking about the blank ones, they were asking about the buttons that are in use. They only know of the LEDs on the front and back so thought there should only be two buttons, rather than the other ones that are in all cars?

Does that sound right or am I just confusing myself?:(

maglite

Grills
Sirens
Alternating headlights
Grills/All lights may be different.

Then there is 999 turns on everything,
Arrive scene turns off siren keep lights on
leave scene turn everything off etc.

It's a generic panel, it would also be designed to take stuff like scene lighting for vans, ambulance, firetrucks, heater buttons etc

gogowest

so which is which? just interested

Sean.

Tango Alpha 51

gogowest wrote: »

so which is which? just interested

Sean.

Top console sitting on the dash is the lights/siren control we're talking about. Screen is ANPR (obviously details of which aren't discussed)

buzzman

buzzman wrote: »

Top console sitting on the dash is the lights/siren control we're talking about. Screen is ANPR (obviously details of which aren't discussed)

That'd be the boyo used to identify people, would it (owner of cars, if tax is paid, etc.)?


Do Garda cars ever have laptops installed in them, like some of their US counterparts seem to?


I believe the little control panel also has a mic attached? They usually have a PA system in-built, don't they?



EDIT; I believe someone on here before posted a photo of an ambulance interior, and labeled everything in the photo. Can't remember which user it was, but it was a very interesting photo. Hopefully if the person who posted it sees this thread they'll post it again.

I was looking at an ambulance once, and seen a lot (all, i think) of the buttons were labelled, for the different lights and such. But the only Garda one I've seen had the buttons blank (unless they were just worn). I assume the buttons have different features in different services and vehicles?

goldie fish

belacqua_ wrote: »

I probably shouldn't say, but on unmarked cars they're for the ejector seat, oil slick, smoke screen etc.

Shhh.

We once had a car that was used for detecting stolen property in halting sites.
It was cleverly disguised as a mapreading light. Are they still fitted?

sdanseo

eroo wrote: »

Well the OP mentioned LED's and siren, so I figured they may not have known about 'run lock' etc?

I learn something new everyday!:)

The OP mentioned no sirens.

I will almost guarentee you that absolutely no Garda car, bar maybe the RSU Volvo Police Specials, have run lock. None of them are unmarked.

ivabiggon

sdonn wrote: »

The OP mentioned no sirens.

I will almost guarentee you that absolutely no Garda car, bar maybe the RSU Volvo Police Specials, have run lock. None of them are unmarked.

sorry for asking, but this "run lock" system you refer too, is this the system were you can keep the vehicle running and take the keys out of the ignition and the vehicle cuts out as the hand brake is lowered, because if it is, it's very common on all the cen ambulances and on patrol cars.

eroo

sdonn wrote: »

The OP mentioned no sirens.

I will almost guarentee you that absolutely no Garda car, bar maybe the RSU Volvo Police Specials, have run lock. None of them are unmarked.

Garda cars do have run lock, but not all of them.

ivabiggon

eroo wrote: »

Garda cars do have run lock, but not all of them.

thats what i thought, but i was under the assumption that all of them were, considering it was the same company who fitted them.?

Mr Jinx

sdonn wrote: »

The OP mentioned no sirens.

I will almost guarentee you that absolutely no Garda car, bar maybe the RSU Volvo Police Specials, have run lock. None of them are unmarked.

Nearly all marked Garda cars have "run lock" as standard, prob some unmarked too.

goldie fish

Mr Jinx wrote: »

Nearly all marked Garda cars have "run lock" as standard, prob some unmarked too.

It was considered a priority after a few patrol cars were stolen....

Before their installation it was common practice to carry a second key.

Hooch

Run lock is installed in all marked Garda vehicles.

It is also installed in certain unmarked cars, mostly Traffic units. (Run Lock shouldnt be needed in unmarked cars as they should not be at RTCs etc unless they have a whole heap of blue lights)

The Traffic control box has seperate buttons for 999 (All lights), Siren on/off, Siren toggle, wing blues, static lights, roof lights, rear reds and head light flasher.

All lights can be activated separately for different reasons and uses.

Corcioch

sdonn wrote: »

The OP mentioned no sirens.

I will almost guarentee you that absolutely no Garda car, bar maybe the RSU Volvo Police Specials, have run lock. None of them are unmarked.

Ehhh No. Incorrect.

msg11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-4tRWMuLhM

Cut to two mins in . Although the box is different it would have similar buttons.

sdanseo

nice guy always wrote: »

Run lock is installed in all marked Garda vehicles.

It is also installed in certain unmarked cars, mostly Traffic units. (Run Lock shouldnt be needed in unmarked cars as they should not be at RTCs etc unless they have a whole heap of blue lights)

The Traffic control box has seperate buttons for 999 (All lights), Siren on/off, Siren toggle, wing blues, static lights, roof lights, rear reds and head light flasher.

All lights can be activated separately for different reasons and uses.

Seems I had a Walter moment. I stand corrected!!

kaizersoze

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goldie fish

That's disgraceful!

2fm????

kaizersoze, which of those gizmos would be used to change the text in the RSU lightbar?

kaizersoze

Deleted User wrote: »

kaizersoze, which of those gizmos would be used to change the text in the RSU lightbar?

Not a clue. Sorry.

eroo

Deleted User wrote: »

kaizersoze, which of those gizmos would be used to change the text in the RSU lightbar?

Think it's the one above the Motorola box.

5500

Are the siren tones manually interchangable in any of the car's or are they always controlled by pressing the horn to change the tone?

cushtac

eireal wrote: »

Are the siren tones manually interchangable in any of the car's or are they always controlled by pressing the horn to change the tone?

The horn doesn't control the siren.

5500

Are you sure?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnvucLIVaHk

cushtac

eireal wrote: »

Are you sure

Absolutely sure, I've driven enough patrol cars at this stage.

ivabiggon

are you sure about that because on the fire appliances and the ambulances the horn control the electronic siren, one push turns it on, another switches between each tone and two quick concession pushes turns it off.
however the two tone klaxon is manually switched on by a dash button.
oh and we have the angry horn, it a separate red button, sound like a fog horn...

try it the next time your in a patrol car, as it can be configured to operate this way, maybe the contractors for AGS didn't wire it this way for a reason

cushtac

ivabiggon wrote: »

are you sure about that because on the fire appliances and the ambulances the horn control the electronic siren, one push turns it on, another switches between each tone and two quick concession pushes turns it off.

I'm very sure, I've driven patrol cars and I've beeped the horn - it never sets off the siren.

ivabiggon

cushtac wrote: »

I'm very sure, I've driven patrol cars and I've beeped the horn - it never sets off the siren.

ye that happens alright but the siren has to be set in the 999 mode or in the older one in the "HF" mode which is "hand free"
but the horn will act normal outside of these functions, now i don't doubt you as i said the garda cars maybe configured differently, but these were installed for H&S reasons, to limit the hands off the steering wheel time.
but the RSU cars definitely have them as you can clearly here it on the above clip.

Hooch

cushtac wrote: »

Absolutely sure, I've driven enough patrol cars at this stage.

Not enough though buddie!!

All the RSU volvos have beep toggle fitted.....as does some advanced cars an the trial vehicles like the iszui Dmaz some time ago.

No regular patrol car has it fitted.

Tango Alpha 51

The horn ring transfer as it's actually called should be fitted as standard to all AGS vehicles. The only reason that I could see that it wasn't donebis to save cost (approx 20euro pet vehicle) doesn't make sense

coolmoose

buzzman wrote: »

The horn ring transfer as it's actually called should be fitted as standard to all AGS vehicles. The only reason that I could see that it wasn't donebis to save cost (approx 20euro pet vehicle) doesn't make sense

A lot you'd know about horn rings now buzzman! on the subject by the way, horn is gone in 209 you might sort it out...

audidiesel

in most garda marked cars the horn doesnt change anything with regards the siren.

in most unmarked cars, when the siren is going, hitting the horn changes the siren tone.

CharlieCroker

No, it doesn't.
I haven't seen a horn switch on ANY Patrol car I've been in, marked or unmarked. Id be surprised if any other members have seen it either

audidiesel

It does in pretty much every unmarked ive driven in both limerick and cork. Maybe a regional thing if they arent done where your based so

goldie fish

My understanding is that many regional units have better workshops than those in the DMA, who are relying on the depot to do the siren work. Mods you would get away with in "the country" wouldn't be tolerated in the DMA where they would come under more regular scrutiny from the garda "technicians" in the Garage at Garda HQ. Some units even send cars unofficially to private auto electronic outlets, to fit wig wags or extra strobes.
That said, some workshops went to the insulation tape school of wiring. When vehicles begun arriving from sonic etc pre wired life became much easier.

Manic Moran

Surprised to see alley lights on the button panel, didn't think AGS had them. Is 'Spots' what I'd know as a 'Takedown Light'?

'Airhorn' must be fun, though. It's certainly an attention getter on American fire trucks.

NTM

Owen

Those RSU Volvos are gorgeous. The next PD Wagon whenever I eventually retire the Rover 75 Estate's going to be something similar. Obviously without the Battenburg (Even though I was the first person to fit one to a Garda Car for testing purposes, little bit of trivia there!), but I'd freaking love one with chevrons on the back and a scrolling display on the roof for advertising purposes.

There's one in Cork doing the rounds and it makes me drool everytime I see it. And it's a Volvo, I feel dirty looking at it, but in a good way.

Corcioch

nice guy always wrote: »

Not enough though buddie!!

All the RSU volvos have beep toggle fitted.....as does some advanced cars an the trial vehicles like the iszui Dmaz some time ago.

No regular patrol car has it fitted.

Drove a ford focus patrol car before, day in day out, it had the siren linked to the horn.

You could turn it on and toggle it with the horn.

It was a pain in the backside.

Hated it.