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Stopping for a checkpoint at night?

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    #32
    mr cowen
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭mr cowen


    Zambia232 wrote: »
    With respect this is what the public has to obey. Garda directives should have no bearing on public behavior.

    I doubt there are even that many plain clothes unmarked car checkpionts.

    stopping a member of the public doesn't have to be at a check point it can be just merely driving down the road and a car could appear behind you with a blue light flashing, the northern definition is a lot more clear...but hey this is ireland and anything vague enough is good enough, sure as it was said a few days ago people set their clocks back 100 years when they land here.
    and as you can see their is nobody here going to verify that unmarked plain clothes gardai aren't suppose to do traffic stops. because the AGS are the most secretive police force in the world.


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    #33
    source
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    mr cowen wrote: »
    and as you can see their is nobody here going to verify that unmarked plain clothes gardai aren't suppose to do traffic stops. because the AGS are the most secretive police force in the world.

    I believe I just said that they generally don't do this on health and safety grounds. ie not being able to be seen. However uniformed personnel in unmarked cars doing checkpoints is common. This however can be overridden if for instance an incident like what happened the other day in New Castle West and Ballycotton occur, it's all hands on deck to set up checkpoints ie anyone can be used.

    In relation to your questioning of the legislation, it states that any member of AGS can stop a vehicle. I think that's fairly self explanatory. Also you said earlier in the thread that Chief was incorrect and that you were looking at a piece of paper that "clarified" the legislation that he posted. Can you quote to us what that piece of paper contains and the source of said piece of paper.


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    #34
    mr cowen
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭mr cowen


    Last month, a savage attack on Philip Walsh in Glasnevin occurred after those who approached the young man claimed to be gardai.

    The thugs slashed Philip's face and stamped on his head, leaving him with horrific injuries.

    The attackers initially said they were police officers and asked the three friends for their mobile phones before smashing a bottle over their heads.

    In Limerick two 'fake gardai' were jailed for six months for trying to lure a 13-year-old boy into their car. Vicky Naughton and Gerard O'Callaghan were convicted last month of the offence of impersonating garda officers.


    source:http://www.herald.ie/national-news/garda-badges-go-on-sale-in-a-dublin-store-but-according-to-the-force-they-are-just-trinkets-1457994.html


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    source
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    mr cowen wrote: »
    Last month, a savage attack on Philip Walsh in Glasnevin occurred after those who approached the young man claimed to be gardai.

    The thugs slashed Philip's face and stamped on his head, leaving him with horrific injuries.

    The attackers initially said they were police officers and asked the three friends for their mobile phones before smashing a bottle over their heads.

    In Limerick two 'fake gardai' were jailed for six months for trying to lure a 13-year-old boy into their car. Vicky Naughton and Gerard O'Callaghan were convicted last month of the offence of impersonating garda officers.


    source:http://www.herald.ie/national-news/garda-badges-go-on-sale-in-a-dublin-store-but-according-to-the-force-they-are-just-trinkets-1457994.html

    Okay and where does it clarify there that plain clothes Gardai are not permitted to do checkpoints?


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    #36
    mr cowen
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭mr cowen


    mr cowen wrote: »
    snip

    Last edited by Chief---; Yesterday at 23:01. Reason: Sorry, no talk of HQ directives allowed

    sorry! foinse...can't


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    source
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    mr cowen wrote: »
    Last edited by Chief---; Yesterday at 23:01. Reason: Sorry, no talk of HQ directives allowed

    sorry! foinse...can't

    That's fine so you were obviously quoting a HQ directive which outlines what i have said above? And Chief is correct to not allow operational info be posted, but why did you then quote a newspaper article from that "most reliable" of sources the Evening Herald when i asked you about it?


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    #38
    Turner
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    foinse wrote: »
    Okay and where does it clarify there that plain clothes Gardai are not permitted to do checkpoints?

    There is no legislation that directs this.

    Any Garda internal code or rules or regulations is a different matter and is not up for discussion here as per the charter.

    O/P you have had your question answered. Legally you have to stop for a Garda checkpoint at night.


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