Remmy 700 in .223

sincere113

I have decided to 'graduate' from remington .22lr to .233 calibre for shooting foxes. I researched remmy 700 in .223 and most people say its a grand rifle. Any idea's where I can get the best deal price wise? I live in Galway but would be willing to deal with someone anywhere in Ireland really. Another question would be that if I get it outside of Galway would this dramatically increase the time to get the license?

Any opinions much appreciated.

kildare.17hmr

sincere113 wrote: »

Another question would be that if I get it outside of Galway would this dramatically increase the time to get the license?

That shouldnt make any differance as the dealer will give you a pulse number which can be accessed by any station in the country

Tackleberrywho

sincere113 wrote: »

I have decided to 'graduate' from remington .22lr to .233 calibre for shooting foxes. I researched remmy 700 in .223 and most people say its a grand rifle. Any idea's where I can get the best deal price wise? I live in Galway but would be willing to deal with someone anywhere in Ireland really. Another question would be that if I get it outside of Galway would this dramatically increase the time to get the license?

Any opinions much appreciated.

mcbride in Athlone has a VSSF II AFAIK for €1200, they used to be €1450, extremely accurate, but a tad heavy if you want a light rifle.

Deffo apply for a mod for the .223 as they are loud enough to damage your hearing.
Wear ear plugs with a .223 otherwise.
The Cheapest Remington is an SPS AFAIK, I think ~€700 new.

there are a lot of second hand rifles floating about though.

poulo6.5

TIKKA

It wasn't me!

poulo6.5 wrote: »

TIKKA

Yep, my money'd go on the Tikka. I do like the higher end Remingtons, particularly ones like the VSSF II Tack has indicated, but you will want to do some work on it, particularly the trigger, so factor in another €150-odd for that. For the money, a Tikka is a better buy, and will work straight out of the box, and have at least as good a barrel on it.

fitzy700

you should try barron sports in ennis co clare he is close enough to you
he is very good to deal with i think he has a second hand one if thats what
your after
here is the number 0877441042

Cass

sincere113 wrote: »

. Another question would be that if I get it outside of Galway would this dramatically increase the time to get the license?

Has absolutely no bearing on your license application what-so-ever.

Any idea's where I can get the best deal price wise? I live in Galway but would be willing to deal with someone anywhere in Ireland really

Sean harding inStakelums, Thurles has 2 Remmy's in .223. One scoped the other not. Both second hand and not too much money ( AFAIK).

However i would consider the Tikka as suggested by the lads. Apparently Castle Island gun shop is doing a great offer on them. Would work out cheaper than the Remmy but you end up with a better quality rifle. Personal opinion.

johngalway

I've owned Tikka and Remington and I'd go with the VSSF II and spend some money on it. Replace the trigger with a Jewell, maybe re-crown and definitely screw cut it for a mod after you find out how it shoots.

fodda

Both Tikka Lite and Remmington sbs are 750 euro but obviousley the Tikka is the better deal because of the offer.

Have a look here at Remmy prices and give John a call.... 087 2435460

http://www.islandsports.ie/rifles.html

Longrangelad

Go with the Tikka - I have researched it quite a bit - give John a call at Island Sports, Castlebar on 094 90 25060 - a really nice guy who will help you to choose and not pushy - 750 and factory threaded - it seems to be the best price around (either here or the UK) - just my opinion but compared to my local dealer and the east coast, thr shop is well worth a visit

declan1980

i have no personal experience of remington's so i can't comment on them, but i do own a tikka supervarmint in .223, and i have to say it was well worth the money.
the trigger is nice and crisp with almost no creep. i don't know what mine is breaking at, but it takes very little pressure to do it.
as for accuracy, mine is consistently shooting under .5 moa off the bench, and i have taken foxes out to 225 yards so far, so i cannot complain about its accuracy.
the only downside to it is that it is a bit heavy with a scope,mod and bipod on it, but shooting it makes up for that.

Tackleberrywho

VSSF II Rabbits to date out to 457yards, magpie 276

Foxes, just point and shoot
I'd argue that the Remington was more accurate than tikka, and more scope for aftermarket tuning.

I shot a bunny @350 with the VSSF II prior to any tweaking!

Most important, get a good scope!!

declan1980

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

VSSF II Rabbits to date out to 457yards, magpie 276

Foxes, just point and shoot
I'd argure that the remington was more accurate than tikka, and morte scope for aftermarket tuning

would the remington be as accurate out of the box as the tikka, or would you have to change a few bits first

It wasn't me!

declan1980 wrote: »

would the remington be as accurate out of the box as the tikka, or would you have to change a few bits first

remington provide no accuracy guarantee and their quality control has been described as suspect. I've seen and shot some great ones, really super accurate, and I've seen some absolute dogs. The Tikka at least provides an accuracy guarantee, the result of which is that most of the rifles comfortably exceed the mark, and they have a usable trigger, which the Remington does not.

Tackleberrywho

declan1980 wrote: »

would the remington be as accurate out of the box as the tikka, or would you have to change a few bits first

Out of the Box, I'd say the Remington, pillar bedded AS STANDARD, precision stock as standard, and 26" barrel as standard

Then I would say yes, however, it's twist is designed for lighter rounds 40-55grain which are more accurate out to 300 yards or so, heavier loads are better out of tikka past 300

Tackleberrywho

It wasn't me! wrote: »

remington provide no accuracy guarantee and their quality control has been described as suspect. I've seen and shot some great ones, really super accurate, and I've seen some absolute dogs. The Tikka at least provides an accuracy guarantee, the result of which is that most of the rifles comfortably exceed the mark, and they have a usable trigger, which the Remington does not.

The Remington trigger can be adjusted to ~2.5 lbs which is fairly good for a factory job.

It wasn't me!

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

The Remington trigger can be adjusted to ~2.5 lbs which is fairly good for a factory job.

Yeah, but it's a nasty, rough trigger, no crispness to it.

declan1980

a gunsmith who shall remain nameless said to me that you could buy a remmington, and spend nearly as much tweaking it as you did on the rifle itself before you would get the level of accuracy you wanted out of it.
or else you could buy a tikka, which he referred to as a "finished" rifle, and all you'd have to do is adjust the trigger to the weight you wanted, slap a decent scope on and you're ready to go

It wasn't me!

I should probably say at this point that in terms of fit, I prefer the Remington, and I like the weight of them better, but in terms of the likelihood of a good barrel and a good trigger, the Tikka has it well beaten.

declan1980

i'm not trying to run down remmington by the way, i'm only going on my own experience, and what more experienced people have told me

Tackleberrywho

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Yeah, but it's a nasty, rough trigger, no crispness to it.

Timney or jewell then.
I would not be without my VSSF II
I could have bought a tikka, I wanted a varminter, and the Yanks invented varminting

sincere113

Thank you all for your input. Now I'm caught in 2 minds the Tikka deal is very attractive with the 'bundle' but the VSSF is very expensive and with the adjustments I'd have to make to it to make it the finished article may cost another bundle.

Would anyone say that the Tikka Lite is a not so good rifle - any common problems with these?

Tackleberrywho

sincere113 wrote: »

Thank you all for your input. Now I'm caught in 2 minds the Tikka deal is very attractive with the 'bundle' but the VSSF is very expensive and with the adjustments I'd have to make to it to make it the finished article may cost another bundle.

Would anyone say that the Tikka Lite is a not so good rifle - any common problems with these?

Don't compare a light tikka Vs a Varmint Remington (VSSF Varmint synthetic stainless)
Compare a Tikka light Vs
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-stainless.aspx

johngalway

It wasn't me! wrote: »

The Tikka at least provides an accuracy guarantee, the result of which is that most of the rifles comfortably exceed the mark, and they have a usable trigger, which the Remington does not.

My Tikka was crap accuracy wise. That was just one rifle though. I also didn't like their trigger. I like a light, light trigger which is why the Jewell is now in my Remmy. The only thing I miss from the Tikka is the detachable magazine!

ejg

Had CZ and Tikka in 223, howa in 22-250 and remmy in 243.
The least accurate...Tikka, is also no real wonder, doesn't even have a real recoil lug. Well made apart from the lug and the plastic bits that I have now mostly replaced.
Most accurate was my howa, jointly followed by Remmy and CZ.

My take.. howa has the best designed action.

Howa, only the stock needs replacing or buy with a laminated stock and pillar bed. Maybe neads trigger tweaking.

Remmy, same as howa on the stock but might need a replacement trigger after a while as they don't adjust as well.

CZ, free float and pillar bed a walnut stock. good to go.

Tikka, plastic stock a bit better than some others but still needs replacing
at some stage. Trigger adjusts ok for a hunting rifle. Difficult to get replacement anyway. Plastic shroud on the bolt will break at some stage, plastic magazines go awry after a while, try get a replacement.
In the long run possibly the most expensive.

edi

patsat

If u were to compare the remmy spas and tikka light I'd go with a tikka,

I've an sps stainless and will be changing quite a bit before I'm happy with it. But I knew that before I bought it!

Don't forget the old faithful cz-527, can be got for handy money and are a great gun

DR6.5

I bought a tikka t3 lite in 25-06, its a cracking rifle, the trigger is set at 1.5lbs, i find the trigger on the tikka brilliant lovely and crisp.

It has a 20" barrel which makes it very compact and its a light rifle for stalking on the hill, i know a few lads that use the tikka t3 lite in .243 and swear by them, for the money they are a great rifle.

The rifle shoots perfect off the shelf you dont need to do anything to the rifle.

Cant recomend the rifle enough definatley go for the tikka.

dr6.5

poulo6.5

i have to say i'm very happy with my tikka tactical in .223 and i cant fault it. its accurate and very sturdy.

my longest fox kill to date is with a tikka t3 light stainless .223 @ 365 paces.

i would have a tikka any day over any rifle as said earlier a finished gun;)

Tackleberrywho

poulo6.5 wrote: »

i have to say i'm very happy with my tikka tactical in .223 and i cant fault it. its accurate and very sturdy.

my longest fox kill to date is with a tikka t3 light stainless .223 @ 365 paces.

i would have a tikka any day over any rifle as said earlier a finished gun;)

P, I'll have to see a Tikka Remmy challenge. .
My furthest Rabbit 457yards to date
VSSF II's have never been so cheap, I reckon a second hand one would retail around a grand.
Out to 300 she will out shoot a tikka, and that is the optimum range on a fox with the .223

poulo6.5

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

P, I'll have to see a Tikka Remmy challenge. .
My furthest Rabbit 457yards to date
VSSF II's have never been so cheap, I reckon a second hand one would retail around a grand.
Out to 300 she will out shoot a tikka, and that is the optimum range on a fox with the .223

them's fightin words tack..:)
all i say is when and where.

sure we could warm up at 300 before the real shooting starts:p

kay 9

Can I come? I'll take the spotting scope:D

johngalway

I do believe we have a pecker measurin' match.

I'm not holding any tape neither.

poulo6.5

johngalway wrote: »

I do believe we have a pecker measurin' match.

I'm not holding any tape neither.

well i can say mine is smaller

its only 20", but its good and thick.

tikka that is....

johngalway

poulo6.5 wrote: »

its only 20", but its good and thick.

Never, or ever, in my life, will I be happy enough to take someones word on something as this instance.

foxboy

sincere113 wrote: »

I have decided to 'graduate' from remington .22lr to .233 calibre for shooting foxes. I researched remmy 700 in .223 and most people say its a grand rifle. Any idea's where I can get the best deal price wise? I live in Galway but would be willing to deal with someone anywhere in Ireland really. Another question would be that if I get it outside of Galway would this dramatically increase the time to get the license?

Any opinions much appreciated.

did you try John O Brien in Waterford Outdoor & Angling 051844314
he had remington 700 .223 heavy barrel for around €800
about a year old and only fired a box of bullets
it has a bushnell scope aswell

sincere113

I ended up with a Tikka. The Remmy VSSF was probably a better rifle but for the money and what I got for it dictated a Tikka T3. Got it from Island sports in Castlebar. Can't recomend them enough and defo worth a trip for anyone in Connacht. They were very easy to deal with and not pushy at all. He also knew his stuff.

Now I have to save up for some good optics and moderator!!:eek:

poulo6.5

sincere113 wrote: »

I ended up with a Tikka. The Remmy VSSF was probably a better rifle but for the money and what I got for it dictated a Tikka T3. Got it from Island sports in Castlebar. Can't recomend them enough and defo worth a trip for anyone in Connacht. They were very easy to deal with and not pushy at all. He also knew his stuff.

Now I have to save up for some good optics and moderator!!:eek:

well wear. i'm sure you will not be disappointed;)

Tackleberrywho

sincere113 wrote: »

I ended up with a Tikka. The Remmy VSSF was probably a better rifle but for the money and what I got for it dictated a Tikka T3. Got it from Island sports in Castlebar. Can't recomend them enough and defo worth a trip for anyone in Connacht. They were very easy to deal with and not pushy at all. He also knew his stuff.

Now I have to save up for some good optics and moderator!!:eek:

Welcome to the .223 Club

poulo6.5

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Welcome to the .223 Club

the tikka .223 club tack,

Tackleberrywho

poulo6.5 wrote: »

the tikka .223 club tack,

Oh yeah, welcome to the Sako poor first cousin club Paulo

poulo6.5

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Oh yeah, welcome to the Sako poor first cousin club Paulo

ah now thats just being bitter:p