Arty Farty had a Party

orourkeda

Please forgive me for my lack of appreciation of all things artistic, but does the person who paid 35 Million Dollars for a picture of a coke bottle need help.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20101110/tbs-warhol-s-coca-cola-painting-sells-fo-8cc5291.html

--Kaiser--

Warhol was a charlatan and modern art is bollox

grizzly

Probably bought by Coke themselves.

anniehoo

orourkeda wrote: »

Please forgive me for my lack of appreciation of all things artistic,

You Philistine!

jimthemental

It's like that arty pub in Dublin I was in lately, the George Bernard or the Bernard Shaw or something. You can be as pretentious as you like with high flying conversation and artistic graffiti on the walls but it doesn't count for anything if your pints are piss water.

Wow, it's like a metaphor from a culchie!

starbelgrade

I love Andy Warhol's work.

I wouldn't pay 35 million for one, but then again, I don't have 35 million to spare.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

orourkeda wrote: »

Please forgive me for my lack of appreciation of all things artistic, but does the person who paid 35 Million Dollars for a picture of a coke bottle need help.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20101110/tbs-warhol-s-coca-cola-painting-sells-fo-8cc5291.html

Ah, the old Orurkeda gambit: I don't understand it and I'm too lazy to try, therefore, it's ****.

Duggy747

I once wound up in an Art exhibition in Dublin before (I was in Leaving Cert doing Art and we were brought to the place) and there I saw some awful, pretentious shìte.

The one that got me the most, though, was a square piece of wood (exact same piece of wood we used in class to put our paper on when we drew). It looked like someone carved 3 lines into it with a compass, called it "The Street Light" (Yes, seriously) and then I noticed it's price tag................€500!!

What was worse was that it had a red sticker beside it which meant some arse bought the bloody thing.

Another one was a very plain photograph of a baby sitting in his baby chair at the kitchen table with a half-eaten piece of toast in front of him. Price?.......................€300

c_man

orourkeda wrote: »

Please forgive me for my lack of appreciation of all things artistic, but does the person who paid 35 Million Dollars for a picture of a coke bottle need help.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20101110/tbs-warhol-s-coca-cola-painting-sells-fo-8cc5291.html

*clicks 'Enlarge photo'*
*Right click*
*Save as...*

Just saved myself a couple of million there.

AnonoBoy

I thought there was going to be a party in here.

An arty farty party.

FatherLen

http://gomestic.com/consumer-information/the-top-five-most-ridiculous-consumer-purchases/


theses people need their heads checked

dr.bollocko

Lame and divisive thread title suggests intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response. IE thread is modern art and therefore based on OP's own definition, a load of drivel worth 35m to boards.ie

maxwell smart

Wonder if it was a phone bidder who thought "€35million worth of coke" equaled about 3 tonnes. And was really pissed when he saw it was Coke not coke.

Aglomerado

thought this was a thread about a poem I heard as a kid...

Arty farty had a party
All the farts were there
Tootylooty made a beauty
And they all went out for air...



But yeah, back on topic...did art in the LC and went to a fair few exhibitions, one exhibit I saw in Limerick at the EVA was a brick sticking out of a pile of sand. My jokes about "the builders left a mess" were unappreciated.

danniemcq

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Warhol was a charlatan

what did he play?

bonerm

orourkeda wrote: »

Please forgive me for my lack of appreciation of all things artistic, but does the person who paid 35 Million Dollars for a picture of a coke bottle need help.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20101110/tbs-warhol-s-coca-cola-painting-sells-fo-8cc5291.html

Perhaps not. Maybe the buyer has worked out some other mug will pay $40m for it in 5 years time.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Lame and divisive thread title suggests intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response. IE thread is modern art and therefore based on OP's own definition, a load of drivel worth 35m to boards.ie

Dare you to move it to the Art forum.

Pookah

danniemcq wrote: »

what did he play?

He played the art world.

Blisterman

The old boss of the company I worked for was a bit of a modern art buff and bought some Andy Warhol prints back in the 70's for the office. Apparently they hung on the walls for over 30 years until someone cataloguing the inventory for the office insurance noticed them hanging on the walls of the corridor and almost had a heart attack. Turns out they were worth more than the building they hung in.

Pace2008

It sounds a bit (well, ridiculously) steep, but at the same time, if we all shared the same attitude of the typical modern art detractor I doubt we'd have ever progressed beyond drawing pretty pictures of houses sitting in fields.

humanji

Pace2008 wrote: »

It sounds a bit (well, ridiculously) steep, but at the same time, if we all shared the same attitude of the typical modern art detractor I doubt we'd have ever progressed beyond drawing pretty pictures of houses sitting in fields.

I'd rather a picture of houses in a field than an empty room with a light turning on and off or a cum stained bed, to be honest.

There's too many people who seem to just be taking the piss when they call themselves "artists". It just ends up pushing the talented ones into the background.

FatherLen

humanji wrote: »

I'd rather a picture of houses in a field than an empty room with a light turning and off or a cum stained bed, to be honest.

i would rather 35 million

Dorcha

orourkeda wrote: »

Please forgive me for my lack of appreciation of all things artistic, but does the person who paid 35 Million Dollars for a picture of a coke bottle need help.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20101110/tbs-warhol-s-coca-cola-painting-sells-fo-8cc5291.html

I took a photograph of a coke can amid debris on a table some years ago. It's a good photograph. If there are any Millionaires (or even billionaires0 lurking here, I’m prepared to let it go for just one million. I’ll even throw in the computer.

--Kaiser--

"Skill without imagination is craftsmanship and gives us many useful objects such as wickerwork picnic baskets. Imagination without skill gives us modern art."

Tom Stoppard

Dorcha

I remember some years ago when Gay Byrne was still hosting the Late Late Show, someone displayed what appeared to be a blank rectangle of white cardboard (about 12 inches by nine inches). Some viewers phoned in to say they could make out what appeared to be a grey rectangle on its surface, and before the show had ended, someone had phoned in and offered 3,000 Irish pounds for it.

Pace2008

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

"Skill without imagination is craftsmanship and gives us many useful objects such as wickerwork picnic baskets. Imagination without skill gives us modern art."

Tom Stoppard

Nice soundbite, but pretty devoid of merit if you’ve ever seen a painting from the likes of Salvador Dali.

Duggy747

I'm going to take a shìte into an empty tin of baked beans, title it: "The pedantic struggle for Ireland" and say how it reflects the inner turmoil of the common Irish citizen who must fight to live against the pressure of modern society, the stepladder of depression and the economic downward spiral which they must rise up against with *raise left fist* pain and *raise right fist* anger!!

There, now to leave it on a table in an exhibition and wait for the money to roll in :pac:

--Kaiser--

Pace2008 wrote: »

Nice soundbite, but pretty devoid of merit if you’ve ever seen a painting from the likes of Salvador Dali.

Dali is one of my favourite artists but I wouldn't consider him a modern artist ( I just realised that Van Gogh and Cezanne could be considered Modern Artists)

I refer to the likes of Tracey Emin, Damien Hirst, the aforementioned Warhol etc.....fancy ideas backed up with little or no talent

EL_Loco

Pace2008 wrote: »

Nice soundbite, but pretty devoid of merit if you’ve ever seen a painting from the likes of Salvador Dali.

yeah but he had imagination and skill, I'm sure most would agree.

Pique

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Dali is one of my favourite artists but I wouldn't consider him a modern artist ( I just realised that Van Gogh and Cezanne could be considered Modern Artists)

I refer to the likes of Tracey Emin, Damien Hirst, the aforementioned Warhol etc.....fancy ideas backed up with little or no talent

Cutting a calf in half, listing your shag conquests (which I think is complete BS, having seen the head of her), an unmade bed etc...are NOT fancy ideas.

Utter cock.

Duggy may be taking the pi$$ (in Emins urinals) but he may be closer to being a millionaire than we think.

When a pile of junk (literally) is classed as art, what hope is there for talented, inventive, and groundbreaking artists ?

We may as well all have a ****e in the bed and call it an extension of the eternal battle between mortality and the Id.
€2m for that particular 'installation' please !

orourkeda

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Ah, the old Orurkeda gambit: I don't understand it and I'm too lazy to try, therefore, it's ****.

Actually, what I meant was, does $35,000,000 for a painting of a coke bottle represent good value or is the purchaser mad.

I never passed comment on the quality of the painting and have never pretended to be an art critic of any sort.

jimthemental

Just Googled that Tracey Emin or whatever her name is, Jesus thank you for making me half blind.

Head on her like the front of one of those Fiat Multiplas, blaghhhh.

pickarooney

jimthemental wrote: »

Just Googled that Tracey Emin or whatever her name is, Jesus thank you for making me half blind

If you're not sure of her name, how do you know you googled the right person?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

orourkeda wrote: »

Actually, what I meant was, does $35,000,000 for a painting of a coke bottle represent good value or is the purchaser mad.

I never passed comment on the quality of the painting and have never pretended to be an art critic of any sort.

But you said...

orourkeda wrote: »

Please forgive me for my lack of appreciation of all things artistic, but does the person who paid 35 Million Dollars for a picture of a coke bottle need help.

... in your opening post.

Also, are you familiar with Warhol's work? If not, how can you say it is or is not worth 35 million? Or do you actually think he just sat down to paint a bottle of coke because he thought it would look nice over the fireplace?

As regards the price, perhaps it was bought as an investment?

spinandscribble

Pace2008 wrote: »

Nice soundbite, but pretty devoid of merit if you’ve ever seen a painting from the likes of Salvador Dali.

Dali had skill AND imagination. To be a real artist you need both. Noone suggested to throw away skills, thats like throwing the baby out with the bath water. But the baby won't get clean without that water so don't forget it....:p

The days of just being able to paint realism and not expected (or accepted) to do anything else are over. Unless you're a commercial artist in it for the bucks.

A lot of the complaints so far have been directed at post modernism (Hirst for example) and particularly at performance art. People like Hirst, Jeff Koons and Tracy Emin are only really famous BECAUSE of their controversy. Hell, there's done more damage to art in the publics eyes then any artist I can think of. I'd challenge people not involved in art to name more then 5 artists LIVING. The only ones the public hear of are the "trouble makers", there seemed public disappointment last years Turner prize winner was "inoffensive".


Many contemporary artists who are held in higher esteem by many artists and critics have a lower profile publicly. How about Marina Abramović for example? Still a huge name however. Probably still not everyones cup of tea but at least a significant part of her work isn't designed to make you pissed off. And if you're really pissed off at the likes of hirst/koons you've basically done exactly what they wanted you to.

orourkeda

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Also, are you familiar with Warhol's work? If not, how can you say it is or is not worth 35 million? Or do you actually think he just sat down to paint a bottle of coke because he thought it would look nice over the fireplace?

As regards the price, perhaps it was bought as an investment?

I have never at any point in this thread pretended to know nor care about art. This is obvious from my first post where I admit this quite clearly. I didn't say if $35 million was worth it or not. I questioned whether or not the purchaser was mad to spend $35,000,000 on a picture of a coke bottle.

Even the auction house wasnt expecting such a sum to be paid for it.

jimthemental

pickarooney wrote: »

If you're not sure of her name, how do you know you googled the right person?

Her wikipedia page says she's an artist.

orourkeda

jimthemental wrote: »

Her wikipedia page says she's an artist.

And her works include:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Bed

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

orourkeda wrote: »

I have never at any point in this thread pretended to know nor care about art. This is obvious from my first post where I admit this quite clearly. I didn't say if $35 million was worth it or not. I questioned whether or not the purchaser was mad to spend $35,000,000 on a picture of a coke bottle.

Even the auction house wasnt expecting such a sum to be paid for it.

Again, not the impression I get from the opening post, but we can agree to disagree. As I said, it may have been prely for invetmeent purposes.

For me, spednign 700,000 on a mortgage when you only earn 30 or 40k a year is more insane.

FatherLen

orourkeda wrote: »

And her works include:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Bed

if thats art then i am a fcuking artistic genius. i make that mess in my room the whole time. should I be getting paid??

Orando Broom

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

But you said...



... in your opening post.

Also, are you familiar with Warhol's work? If not, how can you say it is or is not worth 35 million? Or do you actually think he just sat down to paint a bottle of coke because he thought it would look nice over the fireplace?

As regards the price, perhaps it was bought as an investment?

Can you say with absolute certainty that it wasn't his actual intention?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Orando Broom wrote: »

Can you say with absolute certainty that it wasn't his actual intention?

Nope. Not one of the artists I'm more familar with. I would seriously doubt that that was the market he was aiming for though.

one-angry-dwarf

jimthemental wrote: »

that Tracey Emin or whatever her name is,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKL7Qem0k8U