Android 2.2 on htc desire

gjtonysoprano17

Hi folks,

I had a search on the forum and couldnt find an answer to my question.

Basically i'm having problems finding out how to update to 2.2 on my desire. I bought the phone from adverts.ie and it was originally 02 but was unlocked with one of those codes u can get on ebay.

Any ideas how i update. When i go to system software information it says no updates available. I'm definitely not on 2.2 though.

Any thoughts?

Coriolanus

Don't quote me but I got the impression that it wasn't available for the Desire just yet.

Abelloid

How can it still be on 2.1? :eek:

Bacchus

Go to Settings -> About Phone (at bottom) -> System software updates -> Check Now


It will download and install. I think you need around 25Mb free on your internal memory to do the upgrade.

gjtonysoprano17

Bacchus,

I tried this as said above and it says no updates available. Its bugging me now.

gjtonysoprano17

Justinoval,

Why the shock, any ideas?

Abelloid

gjtonysoprano17 wrote: »

Justinoval,

Why the shock, any ideas?

The Desire was one of the first to get 2.2 after the Nexus One IIRC.. I thought every carrier had passed it on by now.

Venom

gjtonysoprano17 wrote: »

I bought the phone from adverts.ie and it was originally 02 but was unlocked with one of those codes u can get on ebay.

Are you sure the phones unlocked?

Try sticking in a voda simcard and try the updating option then.

Shane O' Malley

I had the same problem myself.

There were actually two problems.

The first was that the update from O2 was not going out to some phones. O2 knew about that and got it fixed in a few days. (I notice from their forum that the update is down again http://community.o2online.ie/t5/HTC/HTC-Desire-Updating-to-Froyo/m-p/162368#M2379)

The second problem was that when the update came out it would not update correctly (Probably due to the unlocking method) My attempts to force the update through just caused the update to brick my phone.

I had to get someone to reinstall the firmware to the phone.

I was told later that if i had left the phone for about 30 min to update (When it looks like it was doing nothing, it would be fine but i cannot confirm)

gjtonysoprano17

The phones is unlocked, i'm running a meteor sim card in it at the moment.

Not sure what to do now, i heard the update is a must and the phone runs a lot smoother.

Any other suggestions?

scuby

the 02 up-date was available a few weeks ago but i did not update as i saw a few people having issues. a day or two after that the update was not available again, think 02 removed it... i checked for it again last night and 2.2 is now available again. i have an 02 phone unlocked using a vodafone sim....

not sure if i should go ahead now and up-date, see some people are having wifi issues

Bluefoam

Make sure you have a good gps signal when searching for the update.,try going outside first.

Shane O' Malley

GPS signal?

Why?

Abelloid

Bluefoam wrote: »

Make sure you have a good gps signal when searching for the update.,try going outside first.

Why do you say that?

Bluefoam

the updates are regional & cant be found without an active gps signal. try it...

Shane O' Malley

JustinOval wrote: »

Why do you say that?

The GPS signal has nothing to do with the updates.

If it is an O2 phone (Even if it is unlocked) it will get it's update from O2.

Factory Sim Free get their updates from HTC Etc

Shane O' Malley

Bluefoam wrote: »

the updates are regional & cant be found without an active gps signal. try it...

My updates came through with no GPS and on Wifi.

If you are on 2.1 change the date on the phone (plus 30 days at least)

Android 2.1 checks for updates every 30 days i think.

Shane

Abelloid

That's what I thought. The one OTA update I received was indoors almost immediately after booting a fresh 2.1 install, I doubt there was even enough time for a GPS lock.

Bluefoam

Shane O' Malley wrote: »

My updates came through with no GPS and on Wifi.

If you are on 2.1 change the date on the phone (plus 30 days at least)

Android 2.1 checks for updates every 30 days i think.

Shane

You obviously know better. Don't try it then.

Abelloid

Bluefoam wrote: »

You obviously know better. Don't try it then.

I would test it, but mine has gone back to HTC with a (suspected) borked GPS antenna.

humbert

The phone knows what region it's in from the cell it's connected to. I'm highly dubious the updates are regional but I guess it's possible.

brian ireland

My young lads has a HTC Desire on 3. He got the 2.2 update on Thursday or Friday.

Found this it might be a help Manually install Froyo on HTC Desire

Abelloid

humbert wrote: »

The phone knows what region it's in from the cell it's connected to. I'm highly dubious the updates are regional but I guess it's possible.

SGS updates are regional, HTC updates I'm sure are by operator.

Bluefoam

JustinOval wrote: »

SGS updates are regional, HTC updates I'm sure are by operator.

FFS, its worth a try. The 2.1 update on the hero was regional and was supplied directly by HTC - GPS was required to define the region. The first updates are generally sent to the Nordic regions and the main reason for the regional differences is language. Maybe if you bought a phone infected with bloat-ware, you may have a different way of receiving updates.

I cant understand why there is such a big objection to the fact that HTC do use gps when updating phones...

Abelloid

Well how do you explain Meteor customers getting the 2.2 OTA update ahead of the other networks? I really can't see how your physical location can determine if you're eligible for an update or not.... Maybe in the grand scheme Nordic countries were first but in the SGS case this is determined by product and firmware codes, as the registry hack has shown....

Bluefoam

JustinOval wrote: »

Well how do you explain Meteor customers getting the 2.2 OTA update ahead of the other networks?

Quite simple, meteor don't add ****e bloatware to their phones. When HTC release an update, meteor customers get it direct from HTC. O2 put all sorts of crap on their phones & need to add that bloatware to HTCs updates. Therefore O2 customers get their updates later than people with standard phones - and O2 have to distribute it.

Abelloid

Bluefoam wrote: »

Quite simple, meteor don't add ****e bloatware to their phones. When HTC release update, meteor customers get it direct from HTC. O2 put all sorts of crap on their phones & need to add that bloatware to HTCs updates. Therefore O2 customers get their updates later than people with standard phones.

Exactly. So where does GPS come into this?

Bluefoam

Sorry JustinOval I cannot answer that adequately as personal insults are not allowed on the forum.

Zymurgist

Updating to 2.2 now with 02, just checked under settings> about phone> software updates

It said a new version was available and its downloading as I type.

Will post a update when its complete.

Abelloid

Bluefoam wrote: »

Sorry JustinOval I cannot answer that adequately as personal insults are not allowed on the forum.

PM if you like.

Venom

Bluefoam wrote: »

Sorry JustinOval I cannot answer that adequately as personal insults are not allowed on the forum.

Dude the updates are from the various network operators and if they add a ton of bloatware it takes longer. GPS has nothing to do getting them and you are the first person on this site or any of the various mobile tech sites to ever mention GPS needing to be on to get a bios update.

kenyard

im on meteor and have my phone updated around a month now i guess...
maybe you need to register the fact you have a htc desire with them?
mine is bill with them i bought it instore. im guesing the fact you got it unlocked and then tried updating is the issue.

besides that try the different carriers. stick an o2 sim in it either (since it was an o2 phone) and try the update see what happens. same with other networks.
i personally didnt notice much difference after updating, so i wouldnt say its a major problem to be honest

chrislad

Updates for specific phones are not from network operators. They are from the manufacturer. They work on their own version first, and then on the variances that operators require. O2 brand their version of 2.2 for the Desire. Meteor do not. Hence why Meteor got the update first - not because they are Meteor, but because they used the software the manufacturer put out first, not waiting for a version that says Meteor when you turn on the phone.

As for GPS, can't say I've heard of anyone doing it. Not beyond the realms of possibility but a bit redundant since you can get the country id from the sim card and signal. It's possible they use location software when checking for updates, but I doubt they would use the GPS chip, maybe the network signal/WiFi IP address. Like I said, that's just an opinion. I wouldn't know for sure, but it just seems a bit unwieldy to use the GPS chipset for something so trivial.

Shane O' Malley

Bluefoam wrote: »

FFS, its worth a try. The 2.1 update on the hero was regional and was supplied directly by HTC - GPS was required to define the region. The first updates are generally sent to the Nordic regions and the main reason for the regional differences is language. Maybe if you bought a phone infected with bloat-ware, you may have a different way of receiving updates.

I cant understand why there is such a big objection to the fact that HTC do use gps when updating phones...

The only Regional updates are for Sim Free phones.

It has nothing to do with GPS or Cell Sites. It is to do with what region the phone was made for. IE What firmware is on it.

HTC have different firmware for Asia, Europe etc

If your phone was supplied by an operator then you have too wait for that operator to release the update.




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Shane O' Malley

Anyway, original question was why the update was not coming through from O2 for a particular customer.

The update is currently switched off by O2. Keep an eye on the following thread for further news.

http://community.o2online.ie/t5/HTC/HTC-Desire-Updating-to-Froyo/m-p/172949#M2632

scuby

i up-dated my desire on sat night to 2.2, an 02 desire, unlocked... seemed to fix an issue i had with not being able to send mms. was using my VF sim.