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    #32
    My name is URL
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    That's interesting about the ties between the Sassoons and the Rothschilds. I'd be reluctant to make any assumptions based on that alone however. Remember, it wasn't him that was contacted by the group and he hasn't said much about it other than to confirm that he had discussed the matter with James.

    It's not really surprising either that the two families have connections, since the Rothschilds have always endogamously married into other wealthy Jewish families.. when not into their own, of course.


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    #33
    Flaregon
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    its on skynews, intersting .

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Foundation-X-Lord-James-Of-Blackheath-Tells-Sky-News-Group-Could-Pay-Off-Billions-Of-UK-Debt/Article/201011115795267?lpos=Politics_Top_Stories_Header_4&lid=ARTICLE_15795267_Foundation_X%3A_Lord_James_Of_Blackheath_Tells_Sky_News_Group_Could_Pay_Off_Billions_Of_UK_Debt


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    #34
    My name is URL
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    I saw this posted on the comments section of a site reporting the story - http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2010/08/united-nations-alan-greenspan-now-implicated-in-1345-billion-bond-scandal.html

    The bit about the 134.5 Billion dollars worth of bonds being seized is particularly interesting, most of the rest sounds like crap to be fair.. But look at who is mentioned in the article, the OITC.

    Here's a more in-depth analysis of the seizure and the media blackout surrounding it - http://seekingalpha.com/article/143462-strange-inconsistencies-in-the-134-5-billion-bearer-bond-mystery

    I don't know if any of this is connected to 'Foundation X', but y'never know =p


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    #35
    uprising2
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    Skynews video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dEAx3EXFkA


    Edit:

    THEY WANT TO SAVE THE WORLD!

    Ok this is CT, if anybody has a problem with that go post in my thread in politics.

    1:12 they want to put their assets to work, TO SAVE THE WORLD

    Is this man announcing the emergence of the "New World Order", the beginning of the global government?, their coming to save us!!!
    Ask Iraqi's and Afghan's what it's like when people come to save you.

    2:16 "It's rather like finding that after all these years that good gracious, you find on christmas eve that father christmas does exist and he's just popped down your chimney, it is a bit of a surprise"................Lying Basttard, you knew exactly where they were all along.

    If these "saviours" are allowed save britain, and spread to europe as this elitist pig is suggesting, then further afield.

    This is almost the NWO script we've been reading about, is it not?


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    #36
    My name is URL
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    uprising2 wrote: »
    Ok this is CT, if anybody has a problem with that go post in my thread in politics.

    1:12 they want to put their assets to work, TO SAVE THE WORLD

    This is almost the NWO script we've been reading about, is it not?

    Yeah, and in a few days the whole episode will be confined to the world of CTs. After the mainstream interest has waned and the journalists pin it down to an old Lord having a 'moment'. The guy who broke the story originally has already backed away from his first declaration that it was an interesting piece of dialogue and is now basically showing his pity for James.

    This world pisses me off at times.. There's definitely something behind all of this which people need to be aware of, whatever side of the fence they may be on.

    When it becomes a little talked about issue, mainly discussed in CT circles then it will already have lost all credibility. Funny that, since nothing new will have emerged to suggest that it is all just a fantastical notion.

    If there is any justice in the world of politics then a full disclosure of the group will be made, so that it doesn't just fizzle out with two disparate groups making polar assumptions on who it was and what the intent may have been.


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    #37
    uprising2
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
    My name is URL wrote: »
    Yeah, and in a few days the whole episode will be confined to the world of CTs. After the mainstream interest has waned and the journalists pin it down to an old Lord having a 'moment'. The guy who broke the story originally has already backed away from his first declaration that it was an interesting piece of dialogue and is now basically showing his pity for James.

    This world pisses me off at times.. There's definitely something behind all of this which people need to be aware of, whatever side of the fence they may be on.

    When it becomes a little talked about issue, mainly discussed in CT circles then it will already have lost all credibility. Funny that, since nothing new will have emerged to suggest that it is all just a fantastical notion.

    If there is any justice in the world of politics then a full disclosure of the group will be made, so that it doesn't just fizzle out with two disparate groups making polar assumptions on who it was and what the intent may have been.

    I think he's saying exactly what he's supposed to be saying, he's basically offered britain a way out of the hardship, do the govt ignore it and shut hospitals, OR, get new hospitals underway almost immiediately?

    The sheeple will write millions of letters of complaint to the british govt if santa claws offer isn't accepted, the govt will "give in" to the sheeples demands.

    Stage 1 complete.

    Edit:
    Reading about the date 1st November, interesting date to announce the savior in the shadows.

    Edit:Edit:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmluVQ9vSZ4


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    #38
    joebucks
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    A few observations:

    a/ It is unlikely to be the Rothschilds directly as the Rothschilds already know all the important people in the UK government so would not be dealing with this chump. example: Nat Rothschild was in the same university club/ fraternity as PM David Cameron and London mayor of London Boris Johnson. Surely if the Rothschild wanted something done, these two would be the ones contacted.
    It may be a 3rd party acting on behalf of the Rothschilds, it has been suggested before that the likes of George Soros and the Mittal family are agents for the Red Shield

    b/ He says this group X have given him a list of referees amongst the most powerful and high profile people on the world stage. Who would these referees be??

    c/ The whole thing totally stinks.

    d/ The proposals would suggest that the whole system is working fine and its just an injection of cash that is needed. No need to review fractional banking reserve system, the nature of markets that allowed Foundation X to accumulate such wealth.

    e/ As uprising2 says this is close to what the likes of Jones/Icke etc said was going to happen with the NWO. Crash the system and then come in to save the day, unbeknownst to the masses that the saviours were the ones that caused the problems in the first place.
    Kinda like that movie Inception. Make the people think what they are choosing is their own decision and in their own best interest..


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    #39
    joebucks
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    Brown Bomber wrote: »

    If people don't know about the Rothschilds- Taken from The Money Masters

    Eyelyn de Rothschild blogger extraordinaire:
    In short, where do we go from here?

    It may be that there is still time to consider these things and work out the right course of action. It is no longer enough for us merely to react. Perhaps this is the time to take a breath and step back from all the madness and try and properly think things through.

    Had we done this, it might have been possible to avoid all the turmoil and trouble in the world that has been brought on by the financial debacle. The behavioral problems discussed above have not just affected children but adults too. Thoughtless decisions based on momentary circumstances have been made that have had huge ramifications for all of us.

    Many were motivated by the instantaneous needs of their own pocket, without a thought to the ethics of what was being done or an understanding of what it took to make those pockets full in the first place.

    Most of us know, when we take that every important moment to think, that truthful, proper and ethical standings make for a better and more prosperous life for all. I believe that's who we truly are.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/evelyn-robert-de-rothschild/where-do-we-go-from-here_2_b_773424.html


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    #40
    studiorat
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    Looking in the wrong direction as usual...
    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    The family of Lord Sassoon, the treasury secretary is intermarried with the Rothschild family. The whole thing is surreal, these cnuts in the house of Lords are the elite.

    He's about as intermarried with the Rothschilds as I am. His great great grandfathers second cousin married the daughter of a Rothschild about 120 years ago. :rolleyes:


    Members of the media were chased out after the signing of the Memorandum of Understanding between the Office of the International Treasury Control and the Viti Land and Resource Owners today.

    The press conference with foreign national Dr. Keith Scott who claims to be the Head of Cabinet of OITC was abruptly terminated after specific questions regarding the validity of the $6,000,000,000 billion (USD) being offered by the company to set up a commercial bank was brought up.

    Questions on when and how the initial $3,800,000,000 billion (USD) would come through were left half-answered by Dr. Scott after front man for the resource owners Masi Kaumaitotoya called for security to escort the media out.

    Audio Comment [ http://www.fijivillage.com/artman/mar/a60.wax ]

    Doctor Scott also revealed at the Bose Ni Turaga earlier this week that he would transfer the first payment of $3,800,000,000 billion (USD) by yesterday afternoon. However nothing has eventuated since the announcement.

    When questioned earlier today on why the transfer was not done, Resource Owners Association president Ratu Osea Gavidi said there is no bank account in Fiji that can hold $3,800,000,000 billion (USD).

    In the Memorandum Of Understanding ( MOU ), 50% is to be funded by the The Office Of International Treasury Control ( ITC ) and the other 50% is to be provided by the landowners who are expected to use their land and resources as monetary value.

    This afternoon, members of the media who were at the press conference were handed a copy of the MOU which contains a signature under the name Dr. Ray. C. Dam. The document under the The Office Of International Treasury Control ( ITC ) header also shows its offices based in Malaysia, Netherlands, USA, Australia, and Ecuador, however no information on the company or Dr. Dam is available at this stage.

    The MOU states that OITC will provide total 2.805 billion (USD) for an acquisition of trucks and timber milling plant and equipment for landowners, development of a Community Aged Center, development of community owned tourist and resort centre construction of modern prisons for Fiji and reforestation programme through TRIUNION INVESTMENT HOLDING COMPANY and the resource owners association.

    Meanwhile, Fiji Police are now seeking the assistance of their overseas counterparts to try and establish the authenticity of the claims being made by foreign national Dr. Keith Scott and the background of his company called The Office Of International Treasury Control ( ITC ).

    Director CID Joe Rasiga has confirmed with Legend FM news that a weeks search for information on Dr. Keith Francis Scott and The Office Of International Treasury Control ( ITC ) has been fruitless and now INTERPOL has been called in.

    Reference

    http://www.fijivillage.com/artman/publish/article_27562.shtml


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    #41
    uprising2
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    studiorat wrote: »
    Looking in the wrong direction as usual...



    He's about as intermarried with the Rothschilds as I am. His great great grandfathers second cousin married the daughter of a Rothschild about 120 years ago. :rolleyes:





    Reference

    http://www.fijivillage.com/artman/publish/article_27562.shtml

    133809.jpg

    James told ZDNet UK that he had not been approached by the UNOITC, and that there were no links between Foundation X and UNOITC.

    Are the ITC, OITC and the UNIOTC one and the same?


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    #42
    gizmo
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    uprising2 wrote: »
    Are the ITC, OITC and the UNIOTC one and the same?
    From the various articles I've read, yes. They claim they are chartered by the UN, hence the UNOITC, their website has a logo which just says ITC and the O could be just people shortening their name.

    As for the Fiji connection, it sure does read like one hell of a scam.


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    #43
    My name is URL
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    It's odd that whoever is behind OITC has, to this day been able to attempt to con numerous countries and companies while at the same time claim to be connected to the UN; without the UN actually using its resources to put a stop to it. And it can't be that the UN simply don't see them as anything to worry about, given that they have had to, at various times; confirm that they are in no way connected to OITC and that the charter no. they provide does not exist.

    Surely Interpol should be all over them? I'm guessing they are indeed monitoring the group to some degree, which makes me doubt even further that they are 'Foundation X'


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    #44
    RGDATA!
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    It's odd that whoever is behind OITC has, to this day been able to attempt to con numerous countries and companies while at the same time claim to be connected to the UN; without the UN actually using its resources to put a stop to it.................

    Surely Interpol should be all over them?

    There doesn't seem to be much info about how the various stories of OTIC are linked - i.e. what evidence is there that the same people that put the bid in for GM Rover were the ones that tried to scam the Fijiians?
    The Rover bid reads like a hoax rather than a scam to me - somebody wanted to see how far they could take it, was able to pull off being taken seriously up to a certain point.
    The other stuff they're linked with, at least on wikipedia, seems like typical "419/we will give you millions if you send us a few quid first" scams, although in the Fijian case on quite a high level.
    Not much about them makes sense based on what's wikipedia. Not much to link the different things they're accused of apart from the common name, which proves nothing really.

    As for the Lord James allegations - sensational if true obviously, but the first question that springs to mind is why this Foundation X approach this guy to make their offer. Makes very little sense to me. He seems to think he's important enough and makes more sensational claims about his past (re IRA etc) to back this up, but I find that stuff hard to believe. I hope more information is forthcoming, it's a bizarre but interesting story. I would imagine part of the reason for the "non-reaction" to his comments when he made them in the house was because a lot of people would have been stunned, and unsure if maybe the guy was being taken for a ride by someone or losing the plot a bit. Obviously once the allegations are made in a forum like that you would hope they are investigated openly.
    Most of what he has said is pretty vague - this Foundation X is secret, yet they can get references from "top level" world figures in business, yet the Brits have never heard of them.
    I'd lean strongly towards this Lord James being scammed/hoaxed by someone.


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    #45
    Brown Bomber
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    RGDATA! wrote: »
    There doesn't seem to be much info about how the various stories of OTIC are linked - i.e. what evidence is there that the same people that put the bid in for GM Rover were the ones that tried to scam the Fijiians?

    There is a good timeline here. Exactly the kind of weird **** that interests me.
    http://amkon.net/strange-bedfellows-gfvn-saint-t25204.html?


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    #46
    My name is URL
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    http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/communication-breakdown-10000030/treasury-has-decided-not-to-pursue-22bn-foundation-x-proposal-10020975/
    According to the spokesperson, Treasury commercial secretary Lord Sassoon has "looked into Lord James of Blackheath's proposal, and has decided not to pursue the matter any further".

    "At no point has Lord Sassoon, or any Treasury officials, held any meetings with Lord James of Blackheath or any organisation that he mentions on this subject," the spokesperson added.

    Well that's that then :rolleyes:

    Anyone else simply not believe that no meeting took place? I highly doubt that he would have said they attended a meeting unless there was some truth in it. Maybe they're too embarrassed to let on that they were being taken for a ride


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    #47
    gizmo
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    God, it's like P-P-P-P-P-Powerbook all over again. :D


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    #48
    joebucks
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/communication-breakdown-10000030/treasury-has-decided-not-to-pursue-22bn-foundation-x-proposal-10020975/



    Well that's that then :rolleyes:

    Anyone else simply not believe that no meeting took place? I highly doubt that he would have said they attended a meeting unless there was some truth in it. Maybe they're too embarrassed to let on that they were being taken for a ride

    Hey Url.. what happened to your thread about editing Lord Blackheath's Wikipaedia page??


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    #49
    Duiske
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    According to the spokesperson, Treasury commercial secretary Lord Sassoon has "looked into Lord James of Blackheath's proposal, and has decided not to pursue the matter any further".

    "At no point has Lord Sassoon, or any Treasury officials, held any meetings with Lord James of Blackheath or any organisation that he mentions on this subject," the spokesperson added.

    Think we can put this one down to the 'oul "senile demented" syndrome. :D


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    #50
    My name is URL
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    joebucks wrote: »
    Hey Url.. what happened to your thread about editing Lord Blackheath's Wikipaedia page??

    I asked to have it removed. I was too hasty in starting it and should have discussed it on Wiki before coming here to moan about it =p Wales actually tidied it up a bit in the end and added more credible sources than myself


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    #51
    joebucks
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    I asked to have it removed. I was too hasty in starting it and should have discussed it on Wiki before coming here to moan about it =p Wales actually tidied it up a bit in the end and added more credible sources than myself

    Aha cool. I was beginning to wonder if there was even such a thread in the first place!


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