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Headmaster's Office & School Suspensions

  • 03-11-2010 2:17pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Nine year old in the states in trouble for wearing this backpack to school:
    Quentin Ferrer wore his backpack, with an illustration of a bikini-clad woman showing cleavage, to Richey Elementary School in Land O' Lakes for about two years without any complaints. Last week, though, another parent noticed the illustration and complained and there is now a standoff between the student's father and the principal at Richey Elementary.

    The father, Fred Ferrer, said Principal Ken Miesner went too far by saying that his 9-year-old son, Quentin, can't wear the backpack at school anymore.

    Miesner, though, said the backpack is causing a disruption at the school and the illustration isn't appropriate for an elementary school setting, where some preschoolers are as young as 3.

    The principal acknowledged this is a new one on him.
    "I've never had to deal with an inappropriate backpack before," Miesner said.

    Ferrer said Quentin, a fourth-grader, wore the backpack to school for about two years without any complaints. Last week, though, another parent noticed the illustration and complained to a secretary, who brought the backpack to the attention of teachers who told Miesner.

    Miesner said he was unaware of the illustration on the backpack until then, but once it was pointed out to him he was obligated to take action.
    Ferrer said he learned about the complaint and the principal's decision Friday, but was undeterred.

    "I sent him to school on Monday with the backpack," Ferrer said.
    After that, Ferrer said, Miesner threatened to suspend his son. The principal said Tuesday that the school isn't considering suspending Quentin, but Miesner is firm on his ruling that the illustration is inappropriate.

    He said Quentin can wear the backpack to school, but once there he must bring it to the office. He can take his books and supplies to class from there and pick up the backpack again at the end of the day.

    Ferrer said that's not acceptable. He took to his case to the Pasco County School Board on Tuesday hoping to sway board members to see things his way.

    The cleavage in the illustration is no worse than other backpacks portraying cartoon characters such as Betty Boop, Ferrer said.
    He also argued that the backpack isn't pornographic and doesn't show drugs, weapons or violence.

    The school district's dress code gives principals the final word on what is appropriate and board members were unwilling to override that policy.
    "We have given the principal that authority and he has made his decision," board Chairman Allen Altman told Ferrer.

    That didn't sit well with the father, who vowed that he's not through.
    "He will wear his backpack," he said.

    Ferrer said he may take it even further, allowing his son to wear shirts that he considers appropriate but school officials might find objectionable.
    "This will turn into a circus," he said. "This is ridiculous."

    The principal said if that happens, Ferrer's son will be asked to turn the shirt inside-out or be given something else to wear. Schools sometimes keep extra shirts around for just such instances.

    "It's unfortunate he's going to go out of his way to cause a school disruption," Miesner said.
    Source


    Reminded me of the time myself and a mate got caught with a 12" Picture Disc of W.A.S.P.'s Animal (F**k Like A Beast) in the school corridor, which was basically similar artwork to below, only on the picture disk a doberman was trying to rape the woman, we were 14 :cool:

    Any similar school escapades that had you being sent to the head's office or getting suspended or close to it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    Nope.

    I was a good girl :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Quentin Ferrer, eh? Parents really didn't give him a chance, did they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Nine year old in the states in trouble for wearing this backpack to school:

    Source


    Reminded me of the time myself and a mate got caught with a 12" Picture Disc of W.A.S.P.'s Animal (F**k Like A Beast) in the school corridor, which was basically similar artwork to below, only on the picture disk a doberman was trying to rape the woman, we were 14 :cool:

    Any similar school escapades that had you being sent to the head's office or getting suspended or close to it?

    Don't go to school with the Vagina Monologues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    Well i was on an aerlingus flight to Cork once.....


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Grayson Bewildered Carpentry


    "Ferrer said he may take it even further, allowing his son to wear shirts that he considers appropriate but school officials might find objectionable."

    That's right, use the child as a political tool to make a stand


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    whats the big deal?

    some tits on a backpack? Seriously whoever complained about this needs to get a life.

    TBF he should put the kid in some hawaiian shirts and shorts, give him a JD and coke, send him in with his backpack and tell the prinicpal to **** off.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    That's 1 cool looking backpack...

    Anyhoo, the report said it was the teachers who got onto the principal after the secretary got onto the teachers after yer one complained to the secretary...

    I can understand the principal not noticing the backpack before this was brought up... but the kids teachers never saw anything wrong before hand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Was made to stand outside the Principles/Head Masters office a few times. The usual stuff, getting into fights, I was never to blame, I was only ever defending myself.

    :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    I cooked a fool once.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Picture Disc

    Had to look up what this is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I cooked a fool once.

    did it taste nice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭Irish Halo


    bonerm wrote: »
    Had to look up what this is.
    Brilliant :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    did it taste nice?

    I cooked him, I didn't eat him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    i got detention for 3 weeks for jocking somone at break in primary school.
    the principal picked me up by my collar and held me against the wall and asked how would i like if he took me out and pulled down my trousers at lunch in the yard. (non pedo)
    i called him a "big pedo" and got more detention
    good comback for 10 in a very threatening situation

    its alot weirder now that i think back on it. can a teacher lift you up by the collar and pin you to the wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Suspended for Smoking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I cooked him, I didn't eat him.

    bit of a waste then, wasn't it
    :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    bonerm wrote: »
    Had to look up what this is.

    Sorry, forgot I was old I was for a minute :(

    Here is the specific disc:

    http://cgi.ebay.ie/WASP-LIVE-ANIMAL-12-PICTURE-DISC-ORIG-1988-LTD-EDIT-/130444252867?pt=UK_Records&hash=item1e5f1556c3

    Maybe I should buy it and get it signed here ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Just for piercings, never got suspended for fighting. What a weird school i went to


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Suspended (as in I was told I couldn't come back to school unless my mum came up the next day) for being cheeky/arguing all the time and also once for shoving a teacher.


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    A friend of mine in secondary school (3rd year I seem to recall) had a tiny picture of a bikini clad lady and the caption "Let's have sex!" which he found at home, thought it was funny, brought it in to show us. He decided to stick it on another girl's back during class, but it fell off, landed on the floor, and got picked up by a teacher with obviously no sense of humour. She went mental, and brought him and the picture to the principal's office. She had him stand outside, went to the staff room and informed his form teacher. His form teacher started laughing. He saw him walking down the corridor towrds him laughing his head off. He had a talk with my friend, all the time laughing, "It's normal at your age to be... curious.... but keep it in your pocket in future, eh?" and went off to teach a class, still laughing. The principal (a nun!) reckoned it was a whole lot of nonsense and sent him back to class. He got back to his classroom, where his form teacher again burst out laughing when he came back in. The original teacher never fully forgave him, guess she wanted him to be punished!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    Being an electronic music fan I followed a lot of D.J.s, Carl Cox being a favourite. I also used to buy the music magazines etc. and saw a cool picture of Coxy wearing a custom t shirt sayin Big Black Cox. I thought this was cool and the next day scrawled it onto my pencil case. As my maths teacher was passing around checking our homework he sees the pencil case. Long story short I had to explain to the principal what interest I had in big black cox.......I limped home but at least my parents didn't find out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Thats right: use your 7 year old as a political prop.

    People choose silly things to get worked up about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    The principal botched this one. He should have just told the prudish busybody parent that he would investigate. The get back to him/her saying the backpack was not offensive and leave it at that. But he caved in and painted himself into a corner.

    Kids see more suggestive images of women on billboards and bus-shelters everyday like ads for stockings, body-lotions, dance-parties, and the great WonderBra. Americans need to lighten the fcuk up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    It's an awesome back pack though.

    Shame on anyone that wants to hide it away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    It's an awesome back pack though.

    Shame on anyone that wants to hide it away.

    In fairness, if I was nine in a classroom and that kid was sitting in front of me, it would be his backpack I'd be staring at, not the blackboard.

    Heck, if I was the teacher, it would be that backpack at be staring at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Nope.

    I was a good girl :D

    My how things change :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    I caused quite a lot of ruckus in grade 8/age 12 (confirmation year) when I kept saying god didn't really exist. Generally if the priest came in for confirmation lessons with the class I'd end up in the office not too long afterwards.

    The principal rang my mother and all but demanded she make me believe in god.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    lol

    smoking three suspensions (i smoked )
    stealing one suspension (i helped more than did)
    breaking and entering expulsion (i was there but didn't really take part)
    fighting one suspension (repealed)
    arranging to have some local thugs beat up someone because he and his cronies had beaten up a friend one suspension (repealed)
    finding out that t here is no pernament school record , priceless.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    I wore a metallica t-shirt that said "metal up your ass" and had a big dagger sticking out of a toilet! ,that landed me in trouble in school many years ago


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I got picked on in a new school i moved to, right up until i broke some guys nose, another guys arm and knocked a third guy out....


    .... suffice it to say i got into trouble but managed to stand my ground and had witnesses that I didnt start it.


    We got into trouble for riding around in my mates car at 14 (he built it himself and now tunes cars for the Gardai hehe).

    But my favourite was being sent to the Jesuit heamaster for claiming that Occams razor suggested that it was far more likely Mary and Joeseph just had a bonk. That didnt go down well and while he didnt have an answer, I was "excused" religion classes from then on :)

    I was a right troublemaker.... but I'm all different now :):p

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    DeVore wrote: »
    ... right up until i broke some guys nose, another guys arm and knocked a third guy out....

    :eek: - Jackie Chan would be proud



    Most trouble i ever got in was for putting a padlock on a door and trapping 2 classes in - got bet 20 euro and it turned out the guy who made the bet with me didnt have a key :(


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I came from a rough school and into a very high class school by dint of scholarship. The "manly arts of queensbury rules" arent much of a match for Coolock street fighting :)

    I spent a lot of time managing my anger and temper as a lad... with some success in later life.

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭LenaClaire


    I got sent out of class because I could not stop laughing. Does that count? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    My how things change :pac:

    :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Suspended for getting into a verbal altercation with a substitute teacher. Crazy old bat. Principal agreed with me, but gave me a couple of days off until the sub teacher was gone from the school and said it would never be mentioned again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    ooh yeah.

    I forgot about the time I got suspended for fighting. I didn't start it though, and two girls ganged up on me.

    And then I got suspended from the bus for punching a guy in the year ahead of me in the face... he deserved it though.


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