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Vikings Waive Moss

  • 01-11-2010 6:59pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭


    Breaking news on NFL.com that the Vikings have waived Moss, seems odd so soon...

    Childress told the team in meeting they waived Moss as Moss did not go back with the team to Minnesota. Moss was not in the meeting.

    In theory could the Patriots take him back for free?? In theory.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Wow, i dont blame them tbh.

    As a Pat's fan im not 100% sure i want him back, he is still very talented, but he's could be a cancer again in the locker room if he hasnt learned his lesson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    He'll have to hit Waiver's first. However I'm not sure many teams would want him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    wtf? Is this a wind up? Is that jeremy beadle I see?


    For suuuuuure?


    (Serious post, why the hell trade for him and then release him)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    As NFL.com are lazy to throw up something PFT have a tad more details on it:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/01/report-vikings-waive-randy-moss/
    Randy Moss' bizarre press conference Sunday night wound up being his farewell to Minnesota.

    NFL Network's Michael Lombardi reports that the Vikings waived Moss on Monday. At his Monday press conference, Vikings coach Brad Childress mentioned that he allowed Moss to stay back in Boston for a few days before re-joining the team. Looks like he can stay there.

    We have no reason to believe the story is not true, but PFT can report via a league source that Moss is not yet aware that he's been released.

    Moss would now be subject to leave waiver rules and could be claimed by any team. The Bills would have the first crack at him because they have the worst record.

    Lombardi writes that Childress inform the Vikings in a team meeting that Moss was out.

    Perhaps there was more to the story of Moss not returning with the team on Sunday night. Maybe Moss' press conference frustrated Childress more than he let on and they say the direction his lack of cooperation with the team was going.

    Either way, a Super Bowl hopeful just decided for the second time in a month that Moss was no longer worth all the trouble of keeping.

    At least the Patriots got a third-round pick out of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    DBIreland wrote: »
    In theory could the Patriots take him back for free?? In theory.

    As Chucky said Waiver rules apply:
    Waivers
    An NFL player may be waived by his current team for reasons of performance or declining skill. Anytime a player is waived between Feb. 1 and the trade deadline (the end of the sixth week of the NFL season), the player is free to negotiate a new contract with any team. However, if a team waives the player after the trade deadline, he is subject to the waiver claim process--by reverse order of the NFL standings. Any player claimed in this capacity is granted additional rights based on whether he has a no-trade provision in the player contract. A player with a no-trade provision may become an unrestricted free agent immediately following that season. A player without a no-trade provision may become an unrestricted free agent following the next subsequent season. If a player without a no-trade provision is signed only through the current season, he may also declare for free agency immediately after the season.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    I think there can be little question now that Moss has been less than stellar behind the scenes this year. And given last night's presidential address, he's not been all that together in front of the camera either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Normally the waiver wire doesn't exist for veterns, but apparently it does for everybody after the trade deadline.


    I'd hate to see him go to the Colts or Jets...but any teams will take a massive risk of claiming him and paying him $6M if he doesnt want to play for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Since Pats have the best record at the mo, we are 32nd preference on the wire.

    And at that rate their would be no point in putting in a claim and picking up his contract...we can negoitate with him as a free agent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭DBIreland


    Can Moss refuse to be claimed by a team? Lets say the Jets claim him, can he say no? If he says no will he drop to unrestricted free agency?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Hazys wrote: »
    Since Pats have the best record at the mo, we are 32nd preference on the wire.

    And at that rate their would be no point in putting in a claim and picking up his contract...we can negoitate with him as a free agent

    Be interesting to see if anyone actually claims him in the next 24 hours. I can see him becoming a free agent and no one claiming within the 24 hour deadline for waivers.

    I personally don't want him back as a Pats fan. Dude has issues it seems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    DBIreland wrote: »
    Can Moss refuse to be claimed by a team? Lets say the Jets claim him, can he say no? If he says no will he drop to unrestricted free agency?

    I dont think he can say No...but he could always have a another press conference where he askes himself Q's about whether he is happy to play for the Jets and see if he hits the waiver wire again.

    Also the claiming team will only have to pay for the remainder of his $6m contract which is around $3.5m...still a huge financial and team chemistry risk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    I saw this in a Vikings forum:
    ****, it's Monday and we're still being outcoached by Belichick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    I actually think cutting Moss is one of the smarter moves Childress has done in a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    It's interesting he stuck around in NE, I'd assume he'd still have a house or some sort of residence in the area? If he were to still be there today it might hint at what his intentions are.

    From the NFL.com report, when Childress told the team even some Vikings staff didn't know about it so this really was a bolt from the blue. Moss would have to said something to management after the game that prompted this or it'd make no sense whatsoever. If he clears waivers the Vikigns will have to pay the remainder if his current contract and he'll be able to make more money off a new one with a new team.

    Could it be that he really does want back on the Patriots train, given his address last night? Stranger things have happened and Randy Moss is the sort of guy who has the ego (or 'balls' if you're a Moss superfan) to do something like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    First rumours are Miami and Seattle are interested.

    I dont see Randy's eyes lightening up at those prospects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,551 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Let the Bears pick him up for the last 8 games, he'll get to play Minny twice and the Pats another time...for the craic like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,162 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Be interesting to see if anyone actually claims him in the next 24 hours. I can see him becoming a free agent and no one claiming within the 24 hour deadline for waivers.

    I personally don't want him back as a Pats fan. Dude has issues it seems.

    I'd have him back in a heartbeat. Just think about it, Brady has learned to spread the ball the last two weeks. You bring him back in and Welker gets his space again anytime Moss is on the field. He says he loves the team, its quite clear now that he never looked to be traded in the first place. When he said its just business at the time of the trade its clear that the BB and the Front Office decided to cash in and get what they could for him knowing that all they would get if they held on to him to the end of the season was a 2012 5th round pick.

    At this stage the Patriots have successfully turned a 4th rounder into a 3rd rounder and added a player(Branch).

    Its all about space on the roster, if there is room I say get it done. Right now if you look at the Patriots wide receiver group we are just one injury away from being in serious trouble.
    If Welker or Branch went down there is nobody you would trust to come in. Edelman hasn't been seen since the Bills game and he has had very limited production in the couple of games we seen him in. Taylor Price hasn't look anywhere close to ready when we seen him in preseason and has been a gameday inactive every week. And Matthew Slater is the other wide receiver listed. Slater is going nowhere, he is a special teams ace but we don't ever want to see him on the field for an offensive snap.
    If Moss gets through the waiver wire, which I severely doubt he will, then he could renegotiate his contract because its clear he wants to be here and I'm sure he would do it.
    People saying he has issues, well maybe he has but there has never been anything but positive vibes about him from the Patriots camp. Every player said how great he was as a leader and player. Belichick often told people that he is the most intelligent receiver he has every worked with. In fact Belichick got angry with reporters at a press conference suggesting there were problems with Moss in the locker room after the trade. If we get him back for free on a reduced contract its a win win imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    If Moss clears waivers, Pats would be able to get him on a Vet minimum since the Vikings will still be paying his $3.5m salary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Waive Claim Order:

    Buffalo Bills - no point paying Moss $3.5m if they are not going to make the playoffs and they dont stand a chance of a long term contract.

    Dallas Cowboys - No playoffs, no point

    Carolina Panthers - No playoffs, no point

    San Francisco 49ers - No playoffs, no point

    Denver Broncos - No playoffs, no point

    Minnesota Vikings

    Detroit Lions - Highly doubt it

    Cleveland Browns - Mangini is a bit of an idiot so you never know

    Cincinnati Bengals - TO, Ocho and Moss...my god what a headache

    San Diego Chargers - Possible, Turner is on the Hot Seat, even with Jackson coming back

    Arizona Cardinals - Doubt it

    Washington Redskins - Possible, decent QB and the badly need a WR

    St. Louis Rams - Doubt it with a rookie QB

    Oakland Raiders - Doubt it

    Jacksonville Jaguars - Doubt it

    Seattle Seahawks - Possible, Carroll is probably arrogent enough to believe he can control Moss

    Philadelphia Eagles - Very possible, probably a good fit for Moss

    Miami Dolphins - Possible

    Chicago Bears - Possible, Martz is probably arrogent enough to believe he can control Moss

    Tennessee Titans - Possible

    New Orleans Saints - Doubt it, Sean Payton would want Moss in his locker room

    Green Bay Packers - Possible

    Indianapolis Colts - I doubt the Colts would want him in their locker room, but they are WR needy

    Houston Texans - Possible

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Doubt it

    Pittsburgh Steelers - Doubt it, he's the last thing the Steelers want, they have/had enough PR problems

    New York Jets - Possibly to spite the Pats, but they dont need a WR and they have enough trouble getting it to WRs who have been there since training camp. Sanchez to befriend and control Moss, i doubt it

    New York Giants - Possible

    Kansas City Chiefs - Doubt it, smart mgt who wont take the risk

    Baltimore Ravens - Doubt it, they dont need a WR

    Atlanta Falcons - Doubt it, smart mgt who wont take the risk

    New England Patriots - Wouldnt claim on waiver but sign him on a vet min the next day


    Everybody on the list knows Moss wants to be a Patriot, they will be taking a risk signing him.

    Of all the possibles, i could only see Moss being "content" in San Diego, Philly, Washington, Green Bay, Houston & NY

    The more i look at it, somebody is going to take a chance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    The 49ers are two games off joint top in their division with St. Louis up next, I wouldn't rule them out of the race for Moss or indeed the play-offs just yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Syferus wrote: »
    The 49ers are two games off joint top in their division with St. Louis up next, I wouldn't rule thme out of the race for Moss or indeed the play-offs just yet.

    Can't really see Moss going somewhere without a quality QB to back him up. Don't think he's looking to help out any rookies or underperforming QBs at this stage, he wants a Super Bowl ring and his best chance of getting that is with a competent, winning QB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Can't really see Moss going somewhere without a quality QB to back him up. Don't think he's looking to help out any rookies or underperforming QBs at this stage, he wants a Super Bowl ring and his best chance of getting that is with a competent, winning QB.

    I'd agree it's not a great fit for Moss, but who knows what'll happen if a team tries to snag him? Moss has been unpredictable at the best of times.

    The Redskins on paper would seem a decent fit, but so did the Vikings!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,162 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Can't really see Moss going somewhere without a quality QB to back him up. Don't think he's looking to help out any rookies or underperforming QBs at this stage, he wants a Super Bowl ring and his best chance of getting that is with a competent, winning QB.

    Moss doesn't have a choice where he goes unless he clears waivers. Personally I can't see him getting past the Rams if he drops that far, they really have problems at WR.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Latest rumour...although Childress has said Moss has been waived, it hasnt been filed with the NFL...looks like ownersip could waive Childress before he waives Moss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    Endless entertainment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Moss doesn't have a choice where he goes unless he clears waivers. Personally I can't see him getting past the Rams if he drops that far, they really have problems at WR.

    Teams will have a good idea if Moss wants to be there or not, so I can't see - for example - the Bills putting in a claim and getting a disgruntled WR for a year who will do more harm than good.

    If he does go in waivers, I'd bet he ends up either in Washington or Kansas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,162 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Teams will have a good idea if Moss wants to be there or not, so I can't see - for example - the Bills putting in a claim and getting a disgruntled WR for a year who will do more harm than good.

    If he does go in waivers, I'd bet he ends up either in Washington or Kansas.

    Well the Redskins are up before the Rams going by Hazy's list and its a real possibility too. I just can't see him getting past those two teams tbh.

    After that the team that really stands out to me is the Titans. He would be perfect for them going on a bye week giving him time to settle in and get familiar with the playbook. With Kenny Britt's injury looking like keeping him out for a couple of weeks at least if not the entire season they would definitely pick him up I think. I doubt he gets to them though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Jason LaCanfora backs up what Hazy is saying:

    http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora
    Sorry, want to make this totally clear. Moss was NOT on Monday waiver wire. NOT. NOT. Sorry (my kids are driving me nuts right now). 6 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
    Gonna state the obvious here, but this looks awful for the Vikings, and Chilly in particular. What a mess. 8 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Lirange


    Minnesota just waived the Vikings and they've been picked up off the wire by Los Angeles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,900 ✭✭✭Eire-Dearg


    Ehhhhhhhhhh.... what?

    Why waive him just after getting him?

    Is Childress on the way out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,162 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Lirange wrote: »
    Minnesota just waived the Vikings and they've been picked up off the wire by Los Angeles.
    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    The bloggers are just getting done with the first round of articles slamming the Vikings for the failed Moss experiment. Looks like they might have to be starting work on a Childress obitury now.

    What's most amazing is an hour before this news broke Childress had a press confernece where he took a dozen questions relating to Moss without any hint of this, the whole siutation is completely befitting of Hallowe'en.

    ''AHH! I wish Randy would ask himself a question so we could get some answers''

    Best comment ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,162 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Syferus wrote: »
    The bloggers are just getting done with the first round of articles slamming the Vikings for the failed Moss experiment. Looks like they might have to be starting work on a Childress obitury now.

    What's most amazing is an hour before this news broke Childress had a press confernece where he took a dozen questions relating to Moss without any hint of this, the whole siutation is completely befitting of Hallowe'en.

    ''AHH! I wish Randy would ask himself a question so we could get some answers''

    Best comment ever.

    Failed experiment lol. Its amazing the way they come up with this stuff. Its only been 4 games and already without being the focus of receptions he has improved things for that offense by pushing back the cover even if he is not double covered and allowing space for Harvin to do his thing.

    Harvin had 106 yards through his first three games this seasons. He has 287 in the 4 games since Moss arrived.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Eire-Dearg wrote: »
    Ehhhhhhhhhh.... what?

    Why waive him just after getting him?

    Is Childress on the way out?

    Good article here on why this might all be Childress trying to salvage his reputation more than his job.
    One of the strangest stories of the year is about to get stranger.

    Jay Glazer of FOX reports that, although coach Brad Childress has informed the team that Moss has been waived, the move has not yet officially occurred -- and Moss (as we reported earlier) still has not been informed of the move.

    And here's the part where we speculate on what may really be happening.

    It looks like Childress has acted on his own, presumably after the scar on his soul from the T.O. episode of 2005 (Childress was the offensive coordinator in Phily at the time) began to throb like Harry Potter's lightning bolt. (Look, I'm not a Harry Potter fan. But anyone with a kid under the age of 16 knows about Harry Potter, and also has at some point heard about the scar on his forehead that throbs whenever Darth Vader shows up, or something.)

    The rock-scissors-paper hierarchy in Minnesota hasn't been clear since the Fred Flintsone look-a-like named Fran Foley was fired for falsifying his work history. The fact that Sage Rosenfels (a Rick Spielman favorite) was traded in favor of Tarvaris Jackson (a Childress-Foley-Rob Brzezinski draft pick) suggests that Chilly has the juice.

    Or maybe he really doesn't, and maybe Chilly has tried to dump Moss as a way to bring to the front burner the persistent rumors that Childress could soon be dumped in favor of defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier.

    If Childress can set this up as a Moss-goes-or-I-go decision, then it won't look like the head coach was run out of town for, you know, sucking at his job, but that he took a stand based on principle, and that others in the organization didn't share his views about not having Moss on the team.

    Either way, the current situation surely has Vikings fans longing for the simpler days of DUIs, Whizzinators, and sex-and-booze cruises on Lake Minnetonka.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    It must go down as one of the worst trades ever.

    Not Moss to the Vikes, me sending Brandon Lloyd for Moss 2 weeks ago on my fantasy team. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭The Sparrow


    Bizarre story. A talented but ultimately flawed WR that although effective is a liability because of his poor attitude. Now if only there was a team that was crying out for another prima donna WR...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    So the Vikings have confirmed they're putting Moss on the wire tomorrow; the next question is how long untill Childress is looking for a new job given that he's probably lost any sembelence of the dressing room and management that was supporting him.

    I almost thought the Vikings would take out Childress and keep Moss, but I guess I making the mistake of thinking logically.
    Childress did not initially tell management of his desire to part with Moss, according to Lombardi, but Childress did tell the team that Moss would be waived. Childress has control over the 53-man roster.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81bca082/article/childress-confirms-vikings-plans-to-waive-wr-moss?module=HP_headlines

    It sounds like Childress has royally screwed over everyone, players and management, with this move. He annouced he'd be cutting a star player to the team before he even checked with management, it sounds like a comedy skit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭de5p0i1er


    He wants to go back to New England, anyone could see that based on his press confrence Sunday. Who wants to take a man who doesn't want to be there. Any team that goes after him needs to know that he won't be happy there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Tedy Bruschi sums up perfectly how the Vikings have made a meal of this.
    “I’m baffled. I don’t understand why. You heard Adam [Schefter] talk about how they were disappointed maybe by how he was playing and also his postgame press conference [after the loss to the Patriots on Sunday]. He gave a lot of love to New England in that press conference and let me tell you why.

    “He spent three-plus years with coach Belichick and then he spent three-plus weeks with Brad Childress. He sees the difference. He saw the difference between Belichick and the Patriot way of doing things and then he saw the Vikings and Childress’ way off doing things. That’s what he did not like.

    “The way that it’s being done right now is what I’m upset abut. You don’t do this to Randy Moss. This is one of the best receivers ever to play football. You don’t just release him on a whim like this, after some postgame press conference and one bad performance. Look at the way New England released him. They traded him, got a third-round pick. Bill Belichick called an unscheduled press conference, which is something he never does, to praise Randy Moss, called him a Hall of Fame player and thank him for all of the service that he gave.

    “If Brad Childress is using this as a statement to make to his team about the right way of doing things, he lost his opportunity. That opportunity was last week when Brett Favre made the whole week about himself. He should have benched Brett Favre and played Tarvaris Jackson. That was his chance. If he’s trying to send a message, this is the wrong way to do it.”

    "Did you not know what you were going to get when you traded for Randy Moss? When you gave up a third round draft pick? I was a third round draft pick. They are very valuable. You don't just give up third round draft picks for nothing. Did you not know what you were getting? I think this is just an example of how inept Brad Childress is as a head coach and Minnesota Vikings are as an organisation."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭neilster


    I actually think cutting Moss is one of the smarter moves Childress has done in a long time.


    But it looks suspiciously like Chilly took this decision solely without the front office where he saw his authority being undermined...i cant always fathom chilly...but i feel randy talked his way out of town

    of the teams interested seems SHawks Miami and Redskins are interested most ...they have no real vertical threat ......has anyone thought about McDaniels going for him ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Syferus


    “I’m baffled. I don’t understand why. You heard Adam [Schefter] talk about how they were disappointed maybe by how he was playing and also his postgame press conference [after the loss to the Patriots on Sunday]. He gave a lot of love to New England in that press conference and let me tell you why.

    “He spent three-plus years with coach Belichick and then he spent three-plus weeks with Brad Childress. He sees the difference. He saw the difference between Belichick and the Patriot way of doing things and then he saw the Vikings and Childress’ way off doing things. That’s what he did not like.

    “The way that it’s being done right now is what I’m upset abut. You don’t do this to Randy Moss. This is one of the best receivers ever to play football. You don’t just release him on a whim like this, after some postgame press conference and one bad performance. Look at the way New England released him. They traded him, got a third-round pick. Bill Belichick called an unscheduled press conference, which is something he never does, to praise Randy Moss, called him a Hall of Fame player and thank him for all of the service that he gave.

    “If Brad Childress is using this as a statement to make to his team about the right way of doing things, he lost his opportunity. That opportunity was last week when Brett Favre made the whole week about himself. He should have benched Brett Favre and played Tarvaris Jackson. That was his chance. If he’s trying to send a message, this is the wrong way to do it.”

    "Did you not know what you were going to get when you traded for Randy Moss? When you gave up a third round draft pick? I was a third round draft pick. They are very valuable. You don't just give up third round draft picks for nothing. Did you not know what you were getting? I think this is just an example of how inept Brad Childress is as a head coach and Minnesota Vikings are as an organisation."

    I'd agree with that, but I'd also have to add that pretty much no coach has the real authority to end Farve's streak at this point unless his leg or arm is hanging off his body. And of course he had probably the best and most efficient night of the year despite the injury, if anything he trives on this sort of drama. All be told, even Childress isn't stupid enough to not know what he was getting when he brought Farve in.

    I also love Bruschi working some self promotion into the discussion - 'I was a third round drraft pick!!'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭neilster


    Hazys wrote: »
    First rumours are Miami and Seattle are interested.

    I dont see Randy's eyes lightening up at those prospects.


    I dont know ..Miami is a big market ...has no real vertical threat ....great place to live ...they play hard ...reasonably well coached ....lot of players have off-season homes there

    Washington is crying out for no 84.....McNabbs best skill is the deep ball on a vertical threat and he doesnt have that at the minute...its teh 2nd largest and richest franchise and can afford it ....Snyder the owner has started to do less of these types of signings tho

    How about Rams with Avery down and thin at reciever ...Bradford needs weapons??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭raven136


    Tont Kornheiser/Chilly really is fcuking this up badly.Some of the stuff on pro football talk really makes Moss seem like a ****


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 719 ✭✭✭neilster


    Hazys wrote: »
    Waive Claim Order:

    Buffalo Bills - no point paying Moss $3.5m if they are not going to make the playoffs and they dont stand a chance of a long term contract.

    Dallas Cowboys - No playoffs, no point

    Carolina Panthers - No playoffs, no point

    San Francisco 49ers - No playoffs, no point

    Denver Broncos - No playoffs, no point

    Minnesota Vikings

    Detroit Lions - Highly doubt it

    Cleveland Browns - Mangini is a bit of an idiot so you never know

    Cincinnati Bengals - TO, Ocho and Moss...my god what a headache

    San Diego Chargers - Possible, Turner is on the Hot Seat, even with Jackson coming back

    Arizona Cardinals - Doubt it

    Washington Redskins - Possible, decent QB and the badly need a WR

    St. Louis Rams - Doubt it with a rookie QB

    Oakland Raiders - Doubt it

    Jacksonville Jaguars - Doubt it

    Seattle Seahawks - Possible, Carroll is probably arrogent enough to believe he can control Moss

    Philadelphia Eagles - Very possible, probably a good fit for Moss

    Miami Dolphins - Possible

    Chicago Bears - Possible, Martz is probably arrogent enough to believe he can control Moss

    Tennessee Titans - Possible

    New Orleans Saints - Doubt it, Sean Payton would want Moss in his locker room

    Green Bay Packers - Possible

    Indianapolis Colts - I doubt the Colts would want him in their locker room, but they are WR needy

    Houston Texans - Possible

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Doubt it

    Pittsburgh Steelers - Doubt it, he's the last thing the Steelers want, they have/had enough PR problems

    New York Jets - Possibly to spite the Pats, but they dont need a WR and they have enough trouble getting it to WRs who have been there since training camp. Sanchez to befriend and control Moss, i doubt it

    New York Giants - Possible

    Kansas City Chiefs - Doubt it, smart mgt who wont take the risk

    Baltimore Ravens - Doubt it, they dont need a WR

    Atlanta Falcons - Doubt it, smart mgt who wont take the risk

    New England Patriots - Wouldnt claim on waiver but sign him on a vet min the next day


    Everybody on the list knows Moss wants to be a Patriot, they will be taking a risk signing him.

    Of all the possibles, i could only see Moss being "content" in San Diego, Philly, Washington, Green Bay, Houston & NY

    The more i look at it, somebody is going to take a chance.


    some of this needs to be called out

    remember Moss might see the rest of the season as like TO in Buffalo ...a shop window ..no matter where he is...so the no playoff no point may be a point after all ....if he passes through waivers , Vikes are on the hook ..so he plays for a longer contract



    Miami - possible - no vertical threat and prevents Pats getting him along with i think Moss might be interested

    Rams - possible - Bradford has no vertical threat at presnt and thin at reciever ...two players are out for season or injured ...again might be down to Moss

    Kansas - possible - no vertical threat , plus Pioli traded for him (this might mean he doesnt want to be burned ) ...Moss mightnt like it

    Chargers - possible - Jackson gone for a bit more and Floyd and Naanee banged up

    Browns - Possible - Mangini may be an idiot but not his decision , Holmgren is no idiot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭Justin10


    No way he goes to the Chargers. Smith dosnt bring players in like Moss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Prefab Sprouter


    Cable hasnt ruled out Oakland making an approach and although he would be an addition to what is at best a weak receiving corps, he's not the player that Oakland needs at this time. Besides I doubt he will want to come back after his experiences here last time. He couldnt wait to go. No, Washington are welcome to him! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    neilster wrote: »
    But it looks suspiciously like Chilly took this decision solely without the front office where he saw his authority being undermined...i cant always fathom chilly...but i feel randy talked his way out of town

    of the teams interested seems SHawks Miami and Redskins are interested most ...they have no real vertical threat ......has anyone thought about McDaniels going for him ?



    As far as I'm aware Chilly is the front office basically. He has full control over the roster. I disagree with some of the stuff Bruschi says, if they wanted to cut him this was the only way to do it. Expecting Vikings to cut him after 4 games while Childress calls a press conference and tells the world how good a WR he is and how is a HOFer would have been bizarre.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Interestingly whoever claims Moss and then loses him to FA at the end of the season will get a 5th rounder Comp pick the year after.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    A more professional (than mine) team by team analysis of who would claim Moss:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/30766/possible-interest-in-randy-moss


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