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Bench Pressing Limit
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RealistSpy wrote: »The whole point of the youtube videos is to check my techinque/ form and I never said it was great just to be clear
I think what cmyk and L are suggesting is your form needs more work than can be given on the internet. You would need face time with a coach to get it sorted.0 -
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The person spotting me in the video is in charge of periodizing my training so I can peek at the right time for sprint competition.
I will try sort my form out. I need the extra bit to get me past 110kg before the end of the year.
Very interesting thread
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RealistSpy wrote: »I just want strength as much as my body can take. I really don't want to gain weight. I am 5'5 tall. I think 70kg is the max I want but it usually goes back down to 68kg.
If strength without weight gain is what you want than you need to focus your training 100% strength. Most people advising you here are bodybuilders, you need slightly different approach. In general it would require shorter sets 1-3 reps probably cycled with slightly higher rep cycle every 3 weeks (to sustain existing muscle). The goal of your training will be mainly to improve density of fast twitch muscle while slow twitch would probably reduce a little over time from lack of stimulation. Second goal is to put your nervous system in best possible shape (1 rep sets - to shock nervous system + good nutrition including various vitamins and minerals). If you'll get everything right you can expect to move around +10kg for 1 rep in a year time, anything more and go to Olympics ;-)
I wouldn't be staring all this without getting some sort of idea about your fibre makeup (I mentioned about this before). It will give you some valuable info on what kind of sports or achievements are you predisposed.
PS don't ever forget to stretch 0 -
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Been trying to chew down on my internet lip and let these posts slide by BUT...
True.If strength without weight gain is what you want than you need to focus your training 100% strength.
False, some people here have actually coached sprinters at Olympic level.Most people advising you here are bodybuilders,
I agree...the OP needs to be very careful in who's advice they take.you need slightly different approach.
Sort of...In general it would require shorter sets 1-3 reps probably cycled with slightly higher rep cycle every 3 weeks (to sustain existing muscle).
Ahhh...can't let this one go. This isn't what is happening....so many problems with this statement I don't know where to start. Density of fast twitch muscle? Do you mean the actual density of the individual fibres? Are you talking about the composition of fast twitch fibres in each cubic centimetre of muscle? I could go on but I'd like to know exactly what you mean with this statement first. As for your second assertion...that his 'slow twitch will reduce a little over time'...would love an explanation of that statement as well...are we talking a reduction in type I fibres or a detraining of type I fibres? Unless you are going to instruct the OP to increase his RFD wehn eating his cereal and brushing his hair...this might be a problem.The goal of your training will be mainly to improve density of fast twitch muscle while slow twitch would probably reduce a little over time from lack of stimulation.
Again...close but...not really comfortable with this either.Second goal is to put your nervous system in best possible shape (1 rep sets - to shock nervous system + good nutrition including various vitamins and minerals).
That isn't true. For a start...the OP's actual max is about 90kg at the moment. The OP could probably actually bench the 110kg they want in as little as 6 months...which is a 20kg improvement that will not result in Olympic selectionIf you'll get everything right you can expect to move around +10kg for 1 rep in a year time, anything more and go to Olympics ;-)
This is nonsense.I wouldn't be staring all this without getting some sort of idea about your fibre makeup (I mentioned about this before). It will give you some valuable info on what kind of sports or achievements are you predisposed.
Best advice you've given.PS don't ever forget to stretch0 -
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@ Will Heffernan
I said most are bodybuilders (don't mean to be pointing out the experience, everybody had to learn sometime).
About the fibre makup: I'm not a native speaker and I might be unclear on some more complex subjects, but I think most people (including me) are writing posts off hand, and not thinking everything through, just to give someone an idea in a new direction ( and I'm ok with that cause nobody here pays them to do this), and I don't expect anybody to take literal advise without researching things first. In my case It would require spending time with dictionary so apologies if I don't :P. Also I don't expect to be always 100% right also considering that in this day and age we still have to rely partly on assumptions due to lack of proof in research.
About his expected progress, I had in mind that he was under the impression of lifting 110kg while being under 70KG of body weight. My estimate is that he could set as a goal 120kg in a year's time (in my opinion that's what he can do without increasing body mass just by purely by focusing training on strength). As you can see I never gave much focus to technique, which could allow him to lift more, but Instead I focus in my post on pure strength.
Also I'm a great believer in people being different and predisposed to achieving some goals and disadvantaged at other disciplines purely because of their genetics. I believe up to my knowledge that knowing your fibre makup is an important indicator of that (with various ways of testing it, and various levels of accuracy).
Most of all I would like to see your similar or opposite point of view instead of simply stating that somebody else is either right or wrong. Not because I'd like to get in any arguments but to be able to share the broad knowledge if indeed you have something interesting to share, I will be the most interested to read and contemplate on it.0 -
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No, wish they would.
And calling someone a bodybuilder may not be taken as a nice thing to say by many people. Quite the opposite in many cases.
Particularly if they are not bodybuilders.
I certainly would not like to be called one, but I'm gonna assume you weren't talking about as I gave no advice.
Haven't thought about that, I can imagine that kinda thread would attract people interested in the subject, and most of them would be flattered if somebody think of them as such.
But generally I don't post anywhere and since I started recently, I'm surprised how people pick up the little things not really related to the problem. I mean what meritorious value is it to Original Poster on solving who might and not might be a BB, how is it going to help him go over 110 on the bench ? 0 -
Haven't thought about that, I can imagine that kinda thread would attract people interested in the subject, and most of them would be flattered if somebody think of them as such.
But generally I don't post anywhere and since I started recently, I'm surprised how people pick up the little things not really related to the problem. I mean what meritorious value is it to Original Poster on solving who might and not might be a BB, how is it going to help him go over 110 on the bench ?
Look, its not a little thing.
Its a thread about bench press. Powerlifters (and L) have posted on the matter. Powerlifters actually compete at bench pressing. One guy is a 3 times national champion powerlifter, he knows a thing or two about benchin, and is not a bodybuilder (vaguely debatable).
A Coach who has coached olympian sprinters has posted.
Another guy directly quoted a man who has benched over 300kg.
After these people weighed in with their opinions on how to get stronger, you came in and said that most people posting here are bodybuilders and he should train different to what they said.
Which is wrong and pertinent because RealistSpy is looking to get his bench bigger and you are telling him not to listen to people with bigger benches because they are something they are not.
So its not a little thing.
Which I why I picked up on it.
I'm sorry if that puts you off the place, I didn't want to do that.0 -
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