1216 packs of abortion pills seized in 2009

GarlicBread

Welcome to Ireland - Warning, may contain catholic facism and womens right abuses, procede with caution.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/1026/1224282004957.html

So now not only is the state not providing abortion, but they actually have customs seizing abortion pills. As if abortion in this country isnt enough of a joke allready, then add to that the embarassing spectacle of our attourney general defending the violation of irish womens rights in the euro court of human rights, it just beggers belief.

1216 packs seized
1216 more backstreet abortions putting womens lives at risk.

The Irish state cant even manage its own affairs, why does it still insist on trying to manage the affairs of every vagina in the country.

Hands off i say!

Liber8or

Abortions for some?

admiralofthefleet

i absolutely despise the catholic cult but i also believe in the right to life

WindSock

Yay, was only thinking yesterday how we were due another abortion thread.

Rented Mule

GarlicBread wrote: »

The Irish state cant even manage its own affairs, why does it still insist on trying to manage the affairs of every vagina in the country.

Hands off i say!

***** managing ***** ?

alwaysadub

Liber8or wrote: »

Abortions for some?

Miniture American flags for others.

bronte

This is the danger of it.
Women will turn to dodgy methods such as this in desperation and possibly harm or kill themselves.

sonic85

Liber8or wrote: »

Abortions for some?

recession for all

Logical Fallacy

GarlicBread wrote: »

Welcome to Ireland - Warning, may contain catholic facism and womens right abuses, procede with caution.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/1026/1224282004957.html

So now not only is the state not providing abortion, but they actually have customs seizing abortion pills. As if abortion in this country isnt enough of a joke allready, then add to that the embarassing spectacle of our attourney general defending the violation of irish womens rights in the euro court of human rights, it just beggers belief.

1216 packs seized
1216 more backstreet abortions putting womens lives at risk.

The Irish state cant even manage its own affairs, why does it still insist on trying to manage the affairs of every vagina in the country.

Hands off i say!

Indeed, lets not worry about the dangers or side effects of such things.

RMD

If a person wants an abortion it's usually for a good reason. Even if that reason is they're to young to be a parent, or simply down want a child then I support it. A parent who doesn't want a child will more than likely not be a good parent.

But on the other hand I don't like the sound of pills inducing abortions. If a serious procedure is going to be done, have it done by a qualified person and nobody else.

brummytom

GarlicBread wrote: »

Welcome to Ireland - Warning, may contain catholic facism and womens right abuses, procede with caution.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/1026/1224282004957.html

So now not only is the state not providing abortion, but they actually have customs seizing abortion pills. As if abortion in this country isnt enough of a joke allready, then add to that the embarassing spectacle of our attourney general defending the violation of irish womens rights in the euro court of human rights, it just beggers belief.

1216 packs seized
1216 more backstreet abortions putting womens lives at risk.

The Irish state cant even manage its own affairs, why does it still insist on trying to manage the affairs of every vagina in the country.

Hands off i say!

They're illegal.


Therefore, they should be seized.

WindSock

bronte wrote: »

This is the danger of it.
Women will turn to dodgy methods such as this in desperation and possibly harm or kill themselves.

I may as well start it off as sensationally as I can...

Oh well they deserve to if they intend to kill an unborn child!!!!

bronte

WindSock wrote: »

I may as well start it off as sensationally as I can...

Oh well they deserve to if they intend to kill an unborn child!!!!

Those bastards!

GLaDOS

Regardless of whether you agree with abortions or not, you can't allow unregulated medicine from unqualified people.

Chuchoter

Gerri Santoro waiting to happen. It is shocking we do not have a safe way for women to decide what happens within their own bodies. I can understand why they took them, they are very high doses of hormones that are dangerous if not properly administered. This should not be happening.

sonic85

wont somebody think of the children!

WindSock

They can't let these types of medicines seep into the country illegally. I mean, what about those poor people employed in the coat hanger assembly factory? They will be out of jobs. Won't somebody think of the jobs?

Nodin

WindSock wrote: »

They can't let these types of medicines seep into the country illegally. I mean, what about those poor people employed in the coat hanger assembly factory? They will be out of jobs. Won't somebody think of the jobs?

...and the step ladder folk, don't forget them.

GarlicBread

WindSock wrote: »

They can't let these types of medicines seep into the country illegally. I mean, what about those poor people employed in the coat hanger assembly factory? They will be out of jobs. Won't somebody think of the jobs?

Well, as it stands we are supporting jobs in the british and french health systems with our most appauling export. Time to stop being children and to bring those jobs home.

Millicent

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Regardless of whether you agree with abortions or not, you can't allow unregulated medicine from unqualified people.

Yup, I've outed myself as a feminist here and even I don't agree with unregulated abortion pills being bought over the internet etc. Who knows what their efficacy is or whether foetal damage would occur without abortion? Or their potential side effects or even what ingredients are in them? I understand that some women are desperate but customs had no option but to seize those pills.

miss_shadow

Women will have abortions no matter what lies in their path! making it illegal only makes the ordeal more of an ordeal..

Father Damo

bronte wrote: »

This is the danger of it.
Women will turn to dodgy methods such as this in desperation and possibly harm or kill themselves.

Or get a cheap flight abroad. Jesus like :pac: I doubt theres been a backstreet abortion in Ireland in 25 years minimum.

My God, customs seizing drugs which have not been passed for sale by the dept of health. Shocking.

Chuchoter

Father Damo wrote: »

Or get a cheap flight abroad. Jesus like :pac: I doubt theres been a backstreet abortion in Ireland in 25 years minimum.

My God, customs seizing drugs which have not been passed for sale by the dept of health. Shocking.

Because all teenage girls are able to hop off to the north for a few days without the parents noticing. What about women who have been raped and don't want to tell anyone, but can't disappear for a few days with no-one asking questions? Women in abusive relationships who don't want to be pregnant but can't escape their husbands long enough to get to the north and back? Money issues?

Its not that easy to disappear and then come back and no-one notice you're gone.

bronte

Father Damo wrote: »

Or get a cheap flight abroad. Jesus like :pac: I doubt theres been a backstreet abortion in Ireland in 25 years minimum.

My God, customs seizing drugs which have not been passed for sale by the dept of health. Shocking.

Not objecting to the seizing of the drugs there...I'm saying we should wake up and stop exporting important issues to England.

WindSock

crayolastereo wrote: »

Because all teenage girls are able to hop off to the north for a few days without the parents noticing. What about women who have been raped and don't want to tell anyone, but can't disappear for a few days with no-one asking questions? Women in abusive relationships who don't want to be pregnant but can't escape their husbands long enough to get to the north and back? Money issues?

Its not that easy to disappear and then come back and no-one notice you're gone.

Is abortion even legal in the North?

gurramok

Oh god, only 24 replies so far. Any bets that this abortion debate will have a thousand replies before the morning?:)

Haven't seen anyone shout yet in their responses!

Chuchoter

WindSock wrote: »

Is abortion even legal in the North?

Just checked, its actually not. Which kind of makes my point more valid, but sorry for the silly mistake, thought all laws in the UK applied in the north :P

Sulmac

WindSock wrote: »

Is abortion even legal in the North?

It's not, unless there's a threat to the life or health (including mental health) of the woman.

Most women in NI also go to Britain for abortion.

edit: There's actually an interesting idea that, if it was legalised in the North than the Republic would have to follow suit due to the "equal rights in both jurisdictions" clause in the Good Friday Agreement. Whether or not that's true, I have no idea.

philologos

Another one of these threads, and OP if abortion is illegal in the State, what do you expect?

goose2005

WindSock wrote: »

Is abortion even legal in the North?

No. The UK has three separate legal systems: NI, Scotland and England-Wales.

EverEvolving

miss_shadow wrote: »

Women will have abortions no matter what lies in their path! making it illegal only makes the ordeal more of an ordeal..

I totally agree with this, the right or wrong aspect of the argument up to the individual. Pro choice all the way.