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M50 thread

  • 18-10-2010 8:48pm
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Telchak


    Is there any aerial (not satellite) photos of the upgraded junctions on the northern cross? (:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭garancafan


    It was a long time coming. But it has transformed the quality of life for Irish people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭slinky2000


    I really can't remember what it was like or how people managed before it was built!

    Even when it was finished it was a pain in the bum with the tolls but it must have been even worse without it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Hi, can someone clarify something for me on the N3 junction of the M50, please? If I am travelling M50 northbound and exiting at the N3 junction to get onto the Cavan Road, I notice that the left lane is marked for city centre or Castleknock bound motorists and the right lane for Navan/Cavan bound motorists. As I am Clonee bound, when I noticed this, I'd been on the left lane of the exit and failed to move over to the right lane in time and thought, crap, I'm going to end up in the city but the left lane also allows you to continue on the Navan road without issue (apart from traffic lights)

    So my long winded question is, is the right lane a free flowing lane or a more seamless route for Cavan/Navan bound motorists? I can't see any drawback to using the left lane otherwise apart from the traffic lights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    ongarboy wrote: »
    Hi, can someone clarify something for me on the N3 junction of the M50, please? If I am travelling M50 northbound and exiting at the N3 junction to get onto the Cavan Road, I notice that the left lane is marked for city centre or Castleknock bound motorists and the right lane for Navan/Cavan bound motorists. As I am Clonee bound, when I noticed this, I'd been on the left lane of the exit and failed to move over to the right lane in time and thought, crap, I'm going to end up in the city but the left lane also allows you to continue on the Navan road without issue (apart from traffic lights)

    So my long winded question is, is the right lane a free flowing lane or a more seamless route for Cavan/Navan bound motorists? I can't see any drawback to using the left lane otherwise apart from the traffic lights.

    That's exactly it. See the link below for a map of the layout. The only potential issue with using the left lane might be a build-up of traffic at busy times. The signs are listed as such to give the best option to those approaching the junction. Clearly most people would prefer not to have to stop at traffic lights if they don't have to.

    http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.3835&lon=-6.36746&zoom=16&layers=M


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 674 ✭✭✭etchyed


    ongarboy wrote: »
    Hi, can someone clarify something for me on the N3 junction of the M50, please? If I am travelling M50 northbound and exiting at the N3 junction to get onto the Cavan Road, I notice that the left lane is marked for city centre or Castleknock bound motorists and the right lane for Navan/Cavan bound motorists. As I am Clonee bound, when I noticed this, I'd been on the left lane of the exit and failed to move over to the right lane in time and thought, crap, I'm going to end up in the city but the left lane also allows you to continue on the Navan road without issue (apart from traffic lights)

    So my long winded question is, is the right lane a free flowing lane or a more seamless route for Cavan/Navan bound motorists? I can't see any drawback to using the left lane otherwise apart from the traffic lights.
    At busy times that's a pretty big drawback. The right lane is a free flowing lane that bypasses not only the lights at the M50 roundabout but also the lights at the Blanch village turnoff. Navan traffic is directed this way only in order to minimise the amount of traffic using the roundabout, as for some movements using the roundabout is still necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    thanks guys for the handy advice- will remember to lane position in time in future!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Found this vid on Youtube. Shows alot of the M50 (and new services on the M1).




    If you can count the number of bridges over and under the mainline at the N3 interchange on the first attempt you get an apple! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭996tt


    what an assho!e, sitting in the middle lane all the way around the m50


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Also on the M50.......





    Seen that alot aswell.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭johnthemull


    Maybe someday a miracle will happen and your average paddy will pick
    up a copy of the rules of the road and learn how to use motorways


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭mackerski


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Found this vid on Youtube. Shows alot of the M50 (and new services on the M1).




    If you can count the number of bridges over and under the mainline at the N3 interchange on the first attempt you get an apple! :)

    Excellent footage of a middle-lane moron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,659 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    mackerski wrote: »
    Excellent footage of a middle-lane moron.

    I know i am going to get shot down for this but...

    On the M50 there is a case for using the middle lane at busier times for merging traffic.

    Yes its not the correct way of going but sometimes its unrealistic to merge safely if everyone is following the rules and not letting you through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭mackerski


    On the M50 there is a case for using the middle lane at busier times for merging traffic.

    Yes its not the correct way of going but sometimes its unrealistic to merge safely if everyone is following the rules and not letting you through.

    I disagree. Or at least, I think you've simplified too widely. Firstly, following the rules does not imply failure to allow merging. Indeed, orderly driving requires a generous enough distance between you and the vehicle in front that a driver entering the motorway would have no trouble merging "properly". Properly in this case is defined thus: "Match your speed to that of the cars on the mainline, find a gap, signal your intention and merge". On the M50, because of the presence of the auxiliary lane, drivers have the luxury to be able to take a long time to execute this merge.

    At times of heavy traffic, of course, at certain cruising speeds it will be valid for you to stay in the middle lane - in that you may end up continuously passing slower traffic to your left. In this video clip we can see that this is not the case, as the driver is frequently passed on the left side by faster vehicles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    mackerski wrote: »
    . On the M50, because of the presence of the auxiliary lane, drivers have the luxury to be able to take a long time to execute this merge.

    Apart from all the very short( 50-100m) merges such as at Ballymun, Liffey Valley, RedCow etc, where traffic coming on at one junction to leave at the next has to merge and demerge, defeating the purpose of the auxilliary lane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Apart from all the very short( 50-100m) merges such as at Ballymun, Liffey Valley, RedCow etc, where traffic coming on at one junction to leave at the next has to merge and demerge, defeating the purpose of the auxilliary lane.

    In those scenarios, would it be correct to just remain in the auxiliary lane if you enter at one junction and leaving at the next if only a short distance away? On a seperate note, on the rare occasion nowadays that the 3 main lanes of the m50 are backed up, is it legal to use the auxiliary lane if that is free flowing even if you are not intending to exit the m50 for a while? Are there actual documented ROTRs pertaining to auxiliary road etiquette as this is a relatively new concept to Ireland since the M50 upgrade?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 368 ✭✭Roryhy


    ongarboy wrote: »
    Are there actual documented ROTRs pertaining to auxiliary road etiquette as this is a relatively new concept to Ireland since the M50 upgrade?

    I have what i think to be the newest edition of the rules of the road(laws as of 1st March 2007) and there is zero mention of auxillary lanes anywhere!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    I don't know if there's anything official but the idea of an auxiliary lane is for traffic joining at one junction and leaving at the next to not have to merge with the mainline. Therefore you should only be in that lane if you do intend to leave at the next junction.

    Personally I think if I were in a slow moving mainline and some idiot came up on the auxiliary lane and then tried to merge right just before the junction I'd be pretty p1$$ed off at him/her and might not be that accomodating. So while it may not be strictly illegal I would suggest that its quite bad mannered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭triple-M


    Have the road markings been changed on the n3 inbound approaching the m50 junction?seems the entire left lane now heads towards the m50 north as opposed to a slip road diverging from the left lane with the left lane continuing citybound


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭mackerski


    triple-M wrote: »
    Have the road markings been changed on the n3 inbound approaching the m50 junction?seems the entire left lane now heads towards the m50 north as opposed to a slip road diverging from the left lane with the left lane continuing citybound

    Yes. The new layout matches the gantry signs. Previously if you trusted the signs you could end up in the wrong lane, which was bad. One wonders how these kinds of mistakes can be made.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭triple-M


    mackerski wrote: »
    Yes. The new layout matches the gantry signs. Previously if you trusted the signs you could end up in the wrong lane, which was bad. One wonders how these kinds of mistakes can be made.
    ah i thought so normally when heading citybound i'd of stayed in the left lane even though the gantries told me to use the middle lane as it was the left lane that headed towards town but all of a sudden today i find myself heading towards m50N and had to make a quick maneuvre!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    ongarboy wrote: »
    In those scenarios, would it be correct to just remain in the auxiliary lane if you enter at one junction and leaving at the next if only a short distance away? On a seperate note, on the rare occasion nowadays that the 3 main lanes of the m50 are backed up, is it legal to use the auxiliary lane if that is free flowing even if you are not intending to exit the m50 for a while? Are there actual documented ROTRs pertaining to auxiliary road etiquette as this is a relatively new concept to Ireland since the M50 upgrade?

    No!
    there's no auxilliary lane to stay in.
    You have to merge onto the mainline and then move back left into the auxilliary lane to do this. Which defeats the purpose of the auxiliary lane as was expounded by the nra when the schemes began......

    For certain movements you can stay in the auxilliary lane, but for others you can't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    ongarboy wrote: »
    In those scenarios, would it be correct to just remain in the auxiliary lane if you enter at one junction and leaving at the next if only a short distance away? On a seperate note, on the rare occasion nowadays that the 3 main lanes of the m50 are backed up, is it legal to use the auxiliary lane if that is free flowing even if you are not intending to exit the m50 for a while? Are there actual documented ROTRs pertaining to auxiliary road etiquette as this is a relatively new concept to Ireland since the M50 upgrade?
    No!
    there's no auxilliary lane to stay in.
    You have to merge onto the mainline and then move back left into the auxilliary lane to do this. Which defeats the purpose of the auxiliary lane as was expounded by the nra when the schemes began......

    For certain movements you can stay in the auxilliary lane, but for others you can't.

    Carawaystick, I think ongarboy meant are you allowed to stay in the auxiliary lane between two junctions if there is one available.

    If this is what he meant then yes you are allowed to stay in the auxiliary lane, as an example if you come on the M50 at Junction 4 Ballymun & are exiting at Junction 5 Finglas going SB, then you may stay in the auxiliary lane for the length of your journey on the M50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    celticbest wrote: »
    Carawaystick, I think ongarboy meant are you allowed to stay in the auxiliary lane between two junctions if there is one available.

    If this is what he meant then yes you are allowed to stay in the auxiliary lane, as an example if you come on the M50 at Junction 4 Ballymun & are exiting at Junction 5 Finglas going SB, then you may stay in the auxiliary lane for the length of your journey on the M50.
    Only if you are coming onto the M50 at Ballymun from the city side; from the Naul side you have to merge and then move back left to the Aux lane.

    I thought the whole idea of the upgrade works was to reduce weaving, but the junctions seem to increase it, as they now have short merges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    Only if you are coming onto the M50 at Ballymun from the city side; from the Naul side you have to merge and then move back left to the Aux lane.

    I thought the whole idea of the upgrade works was to reduce weaving, but the junctions seem to increase it, as they now have short merges.

    That's incorrect.

    I purposely came from the Naul side at Junction 4 this morning and there is at least 200 meters on the slip road to move into the left hand lane and thus you can therefore stay in the Auxiliary lane from Junction 4 to Junction 5 NB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    I noted two months ago that the lane signage on Exit 13 Southbound Ramp (Rathfarnham, Dundrum and Sandyford) was overgrown with branches and greenery. This is a steep downhill exit and lane discipline is important because speeds are still high. Overgrown signage makes weaving and last-minute decisions more likely.

    I wrote to Dun Laoghaire Rathdown County Council and suggested some pruning and chopping. No action taken and no response to my e-mail.

    Then I wrote to the National Roads Authority last month. No action taken and no response to my e-mail.

    Can anyone tell me if the signs are still overgrown today? Surely employees of the County Council and the NRA must travel these roads to work and take a mental note for later....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭csd


    Folks,

    It was cold and mostly clear tonight, so I thought I'd take a few snaps in and around J6. This area has seen perhaps some of the most dramatic changes due to the upgrade works, so I hope these shots are of interest.

    First, a key map. The numbers on the map below correspond roughly to where the shots were taken.
    Key%20image.jpg

    Location 1 first. This is a panorama of four shots stitched together looking west and north from the vantage point. The loop visible is the M50 southbound to N3 outbound freeflow slip, with the Royal Canal visible to the extreme left. Vantage point 2 is visible here, directly across the sliproad below, where the bridge ends in the middle of the frame.
    loop_Panorama1.jpg

    Moving to vantage point 2, we're looking northwest at the N3 to M50 South, N3 to City, and M50 northbound to N3 outbound slips passing under original M50 SB offramp to the roundabout. Immediately beyond this overpass, the carriageways cross the M50 mainline.
    IMG_6829.JPG

    Turning the camera around to face the opposite way, L to R we see the N3 inbound to City, N3 inbound to M50 southbound, and M50 northbound to N3 outbound carriageways.
    IMG_6830.JPG

    Now we move to vantage point 3, the canal aqueduct across the M50 mainline. The first shot looks northeast at the M50 mainline. The high bridge in the foreground is the northern half of the original grade-separated roundabout junction, while visible in the distance is the new bridge seen from the first of the viewpoint 2 photos.
    IMG_6847.JPG

    Here's a shot of the Royal Canal as it crosses the M50 mainline on the aqueduct. It's hard to believe that the motorway is immediately below the water here. The bridge in the distance is part of the western section of the original grade-separated roundabout.
    IMG_6843.JPG

    Looking back to the east, we see one of the original canal bridges, which has somehow survived the both the original junction six and its subsequent upgrading.
    IMG_6840.JPG

    We now move to vantage point 4, under the three flyovers than span the canal and the railway. Looking south from the north bank of the canal, we're right under the N3 inbound M50 southbound (L) and M50 northbound to N3 outbound (R) bridges. The Dublin to Sligo railway line is immediately behind the metal fence at the bottom of the shot.
    IMG_6805.JPG

    Looking west from under the bridge, the M50 southbound to N3 outbound loop is seen merging with the M50 northbound to N3 outbound flyover.
    IMG_6833.JPG

    Turning the camera back the other way, we see the same loop as it dives under the three bridges.
    IMG_6810.JPG

    My final shot is a driver's eye view (almost!) of the M50 southbound to N3 outbound loop, just as it passes under the three bridges marked at (4) on the key map.
    IMG_6821.JPG

    If the weather holds (and anyone's interested!) I'll try and get more shots of this and J7 during the week.

    /csd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Jayuu


    Stunning photographs. Very nicely done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Those pictures are fantastic. What camera have you got?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭csd


    Thanks for the kind words folks, I have a Canon EOS 450D.

    Here's another batch, from yesterday.

    First, the key map. These shots were taken from 5, 6, and 7.

    5182996272_2b45f1cc9f_b.jpg
    Key map 2 by csd75, on Flickr

    The first few are from vantage point 5, in the northwest corner of the interchange. These two are looking east towards the city.
    5180058698_2c26e5a354_z.jpg N3 looking inbound by csd75, on Flickr

    5179458621_d54dc69377_z.jpg
    N3 looking inbound by csd75, on Flickr

    Looking west.
    5180060200_e7e01157fb_z.jpg
    N3 looking outbound by csd75, on Flickr

    Moving closer to town, past the gantry sign looking east.
    5180061104_200c6c5129_z.jpg
    N3 looking inbound by csd75, on Flickr

    Moving to vantage point 6, this is the River Tolka at the lowest point of the interchange, looking west. The bridge in the middle distance carries the M50 mainline southbound carriageway.
    5179460615_6261d4a080_z.jpg
    Bottom of junction six by csd75, on Flickr

    This is the pedestrian underpass on the way to vantage point 7 from Castleknock. The tunnel has been lengthened as the result of the new freeflow N3 to M50 southbound sliproad.
    5179462579_0b0aa96832_z.jpg
    Pedestrian underpass by csd75, on Flickr

    The view from vantage point 7 looking north. The bridge in the foreground is the southern half of the old grade-separated roundabout. Anyone know what the bridge pier was supposed to be for?
    5179463263_1bd56476f3_z.jpg
    Castleknock - Blanchardstown pedestrian bridge by csd75, on Flickr

    Finally, the view south from the same location. In the foreground is the new M50 northbound to N3 outbound freeflow slip.
    5179463989_02f5b66bab_z.jpg
    Castleknock - Blanchardstown pedestrian bridge by csd75, on Flickr

    /csd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,176 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The bridge pier was to let them move the footbridge; the redesign part way through construction meant they didn't have to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    MYOB wrote: »
    The bridge pier was to let them move the footbridge; the redesign part way through construction meant they didn't have to.

    They could use it to put a nice statue on....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    celticbest wrote: »
    They could use it to put a nice statue on....

    or some speed..., sorry safety cameras :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭NedNew2


    @ CSD

    You should submit some of those photos to SABRE, they're excellent and I'm sure they are worthy of photo of the month, especially the first batch of photos you took.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭Bummer1234


    Great photos there csd.

    Have one question folks,Im travelling from Galway to Dublin Airport Friday evening at about 7pm,Just wondering how busy does the m50 North bound be at that time of the evening? Just wanna give myself time to get there and not be hit by the traffic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭csd


    NedNew2 wrote: »
    @ CSD

    You should submit some of those photos to SABRE, they're excellent and I'm sure they are worthy of photo of the month, especially the first batch of photos you took.

    Thanks Ned, I've uploaded my favourite one so I guess we'll see how I do next week!

    /csd


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    When the inevitable two or three week heat wave arrives in summer '11, we'll look back incredulously at this:



    Winter tyres next year!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Is the m50 clear?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Irish and Proud


    Furet wrote: »
    When the inevitable two or three week heat wave arrives in summer '11, we'll look back incredulously at this:



    Winter tyres next year!

    ...we'll probably be wondering if it was the same country! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    Just wondering if anybody else has noticed what seems to be a huge increase in the amount of people crossing hatch marking's at junctions on the M50, it seems to be a major problem were two junctions are in close proximity to each other like Junction 9 Red Cow & Junction 10 Ballymount NB.

    In order stop people from carrying out these dangerous manoeuvres could they not put bollard's like the one's below on hatch marking's which are most frequently crossed.

    Bollard.png
    Bollardinuse.png

    Does anybody know who would be the best to contact in relation to requesting the installation of these bollards, is it the NRA, M50 Concession or the relevant Council for where the Junction is situated ?

    I have never once seen anybody being pulled by the Guards for crossing the marking's & IMHO this is just a major accident waiting to happen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,476 ✭✭✭ardmacha


    In order stop people from carrying out these dangerous manoeuvres could they not put bollard's like the one's below on hatch marking's which are most frequently crossed.

    No they should not put bollards there, hatching was designed there for a reason. They should put a camera there and fine everyone who enters the hatched area. You'd find that this would then become much less common.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Bards


    saw a cop car exiting onto the M7 NB from the Naas exit and crossed the hatch markings to move out onto the M7 mainline ahead of all the other cars that did obey the Rules:mad:

    If the Cops are not going to lead by example what hope for the rest of us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    ardmacha wrote: »
    No they should not put bollards there, hatching was designed there for a reason. They should put a camera there and fine everyone who enters the hatched area. You'd find that this would then become much less common.

    The bollard I have pictured above is flexible in order to minimise damage if for some reason a vehicle was to collide with one, also the Post can be removed quite easily in an emergency,

    To install and monitor a camera would cost far more, the bollards would stop the need for any of this at a once off cost.
    Bards wrote: »
    saw a cop car exiting onto the M7 NB from the Naas exit and crossed the hatch markings to move out onto the M7 mainline ahead of all the other cars that did obey the Rules:mad:

    If the Cops are not going to lead by example what hope for the rest of us

    :eek: Exactly, if the Guards don't obey the ROTR then what are chances of everyone else obeying them :confused: They have to start leading by example.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Irish and Proud


    Hi Folks,

    ...was browsing the web last night and came across some nice pics of the M50 (during the snow spells of Nov/Dec 2010) taken by the Irish Air Corps. There is a nice one of the Blanch Interchange (Jct 6), 2 of the Red Cow Interchange (Jct 9) and one of the Sandyford Interchange (Jct 13/14). The link is as follows:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/irishaircorps/sets/72157625565514198/

    Enjoy! :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,226 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    ardmacha wrote: »
    No they should not put bollards there, hatching was designed there for a reason. They should put a camera there and fine everyone who enters the hatched area. You'd find that this would then become much less common.
    This would require a manual operator and would not be worthwhile as crossing a hatched marking does not cause a major hazard. There are far worse offenses occurring on motorways than this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Irish and Proud


    ...but not of the M50 this time, but of some of the approach motorways. I know that this is a slightly OT post, but I'm sure you guys will forgive me this time. First up:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/38016434@N05/5244310396/in/photostream/
    The M1 motorway looking North between Lissenhall and Courtlough (Jcts 4 & 5). Visible are the M1 South Service Areas near the foreground. Beyond that is the Courtlough Interchange.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/38016434@N05/5244310402/in/photostream/
    The M2 motorway looking North from Cherryhound. In the foreground are the North facing ramps for the Cherryhound Interchange with the bridge immediately beyond carrying the R121 road from The Ward to Tyrrelstown. The caption on flicker states the M4 in Meath, but I'm 99% sure that this is wrong! Indeed, correct me if I'm wrong...

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/38016434@N05/5244310462/in/photostream/
    The M3 motorway looking North between Pace and Dunshaughlin. The bridge near the foreground carries the R154 road towards Trim while the M3 Southern Toll Plaza can be seen very clearly with its 5 lanes in each direction (though lane 5 NB appears pretty snowed up). Hence, it could no way be the M4 Toll Plaza (as the caption states) - the M4 Toll Plaza has at least 8 lanes each way and is also in a remote location unlike what this image shows - I think could say I'm 100% sure of that and I'm 99.99999% sure that it is the M3 motorway that the image shows!

    Enjoy everyone! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭digzy


    what is the most efficient route to take to avoid the m50 toll going from the red cow to the airport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,659 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    digzy wrote: »
    what is the most efficient route to take to avoid the m50 toll going from the red cow to the airport?

    Really not worth it but...

    I know someone who gets off at Kingswood, drives onto Lucan, up to Clonee onto N3->M50

    Guess thats one way

    Although if your talking efficiency, i think youll easily spend an extra €2 on petrol doing this as an alternative

    Coming from Galway makes more sense to avoid (but road is terrible so if icy/rainy I just swallow the toll)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Irish and Proud


    This may the shot everyone here is waiting for - a good aerial shot of the Blanchardstown Interchange - this one is along the N3 from East to West:

    M50/N3 Interchange

    It looks as if the image was taken by a foreigner for use on flicker - the captions seem to be in Spanish.

    Enjoy everyone!

    :):):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Irish and Proud


    I've found more interesting images of the M50 - this time from a group pool on flickr - the link is as follows:

    http://www.flickr.com/groups/897073@N25/pool/

    The first 5 pics show interesting views of the N7 approach to the M50 at Red Cow. There are also underside shots of the Westlink Bridge as well as some nice happy memories of the old toll plaza building - being demolished that is!!! :D

    Enjoy everyone! :)


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